Calculating Your Comfortable Family Income in Australia

How much do you need?

I do get asked some quite strange questions at times, but they are usually one-offs. But this one pops up quite regularly and every time it does, there is never enough information given to me to answer it.

moneyEven with lots of information, it would still be an impossible question to answer, but when the question is something like

I’m moving to Australia next month with my wife and two teenage children, what would be a good salary to ensure a comfortable lifestyle for me and my family?

What chance do I have?

Calculating YOUR comfortable family income

Here’s what I think you need to take into consideration when calculating a comfortable family income for you and your family. You might be able to think of many more.

  • Cost of mortgage or rent.
  • Cost of running a car or cars.
  • Cost of food for your family.
  • Cost of utilities; electricity, gas, water and rates.
  • Cost of additional shopping items; clothes, gadgets, health and beauty, jewellery, computers and toys.
  • Cost of insurances, for the home and for private medical insurance.
  • Cost of telephones, both home and mobile.
  • Cost of entertainment items, like holidays, alcohol, digital TV, going out.
  • Cost of unexpected maintenance bills, for your home, for your car and other things that break.

So to answer these sort of questions, you’d have to offer me a lot of information or I’d have to ask you a lot of further questions.

As you can see, it really is an impossible question for me to answer, but you can answer it for yourself.

Check out my page about The Costs of Stuff.

A simple solution.

If you are coming here from the UK though, this works quite well. However much you spend per month over there in pounds, you’ll probably need twice the amount here in Australian dollars. So if you need £4,000 a month in the UK, budget $8,000 a month here.

Sounds stupid doesn’t it? But I bet it wont be far out.

How can I make sure I earn twice as much in AUD as I currently earn in GBP?

Salaries in Australia are higher than those in the UK, by my estimates over 30% higher; click on the third link below under the title “More useful links:” to my post comparing UK and Australian salaries to see how I got to that.

Once your salary is adjusted to Australian dollars and taking into account the high salaries, you will see from the salary comparison charts on that page that it is quite easy to earn double what you earn in pounds in the UK here in Australian dollars.

Check it out for yourself, and I’ve even updated that post with a 2012 version, you’ll see a link to it from the original post.

More useful links:

My report about The Cost of Living “Comfortably” in Australia

My post called Real Australians Reveal Their Incomes And Monthly Expenses

My entire category on the Cost of Living in Australia.

My posts about jobs and salaries:

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  • Thiru November 24, 2019, 3:53 am | Link

    Dear BobinOz
    A friend of mine,have received a marriage proposal (We in India,State of Tamilnadu)for her daughter is an Government employed,earning 5 lak per annum whilst the groom is a permanent Resident in Victoria earning 85000 AD per annum.
    Is it suffice for a couple with a future kid,If married,the bride resign the job here.The bridegroom is employed in building construction segment.please
    Project your opinion which is of great help
    With regards
    Sridar Guru.

    • BobinOz November 24, 2019, 5:48 pm | Link

      $85,000 per annum is a pretty good salary and I would say many a young couple with a child are living reasonably comfortable on that. So yes, it is suffice.

  • Johan October 12, 2019, 4:48 pm | Link

    Hi Rob,

    I received a job offer of 144 000k per year in Newman Western Australia. Will that be sufficient to support a family of 4? 2 Adults and 2 children, ages 7 and 1 year old. We are thinking of moving there from South Africa

    • BobinOz October 14, 2019, 6:17 pm | Link

      Yes, that will be enough, it’s a very good salary. From what I hear about South Africa, I have a friend who comes from there, I would jump at the chance if I were you.

      • Guru November 24, 2019, 9:06 pm | Link

        Well.mr BobinOz..thankyou for your prompt reply which tends to an idea.
        Regards

  • Bal August 30, 2019, 6:11 am | Link

    Hi Bob,

    Could you possibly tell me if living on a salary of 63,000 per annum Australian dollars for 2 adults and 2 very young children be enough for a comfortable life in Perth city? My hubby has been offered a job with that as the starting wage, it will be the only wage coming in. We would wish to have a mortgage on a modest 3 bed house. We are currently in UK.

    • BobinOz September 2, 2019, 7:02 pm | Link

      This isn’t a great salary for a family with a couple of young children, so I think you would probably need to do some very thorough research.

      My pages The Cost of Living in Australia of Everything and Cost of Buying or Renting a House in Australia will help you to do that.

      My main concern would be how much you will need to pay for a suitable house for you and your family, and specifically how much deposit you would have because, the bigger your deposit, the lower your mortgage payments would be.

      Once you’ve worked that out, see how much you’ve got left. Then work out how much you would need for the basics and if you do all this properly, you will get a good idea of how tightly you would need to run your budget.

      So my answer isn’t straightforward, because it’s impossible to say whether it would be enough or not, because it mostly depends on how much your mortgage would be.

      You might also like to think about how well off (or not) you are currently and try and work out how that would compare to your new life here in Australia before making a decision on whether to do this or not.

      • Bal September 2, 2019, 9:01 pm | Link

        Hi Bob,

        Thank you so much for your reply. I had a feeling you would say that too regarding the wage being offered. I will definitely have a look at the pages you have suggested and do as you’ve instructed. Oh you have an awesome site that people like myself really appreciate.

        Thank you again so much

        Best wishes
        Bal

  • Dj August 28, 2019, 2:00 am | Link

    Good day.
    Myself and my wife is looking to come over to Perth. My current company has offered me AUD84K, initially my will not work untill we find a suitable position for her. Would the salary suffice to live in Perth?

    • BobinOz August 29, 2019, 5:30 pm | Link

      84k is a pretty good salary and as it sounds like it’s just you and your wife, it will be sufficient for you to live in Perth. Just try and keep your accommodation rental costs as reasonable as possible.

      I think you would be able to live indefinitely on this one salary if you needed to, but if your wife can find work, you’d be able to treat yourself more often.

  • Louise June 13, 2019, 8:58 pm | Link

    Hi there,
    I’m leaving this comment here because I wanted to follow your contact requests and not spam you but my query is a bit complicated and I was hoping you may be able to help. I have the opportunity of leaving my job and studying a PhD in Perth on a stipend ($27500) which wouldn’t be an issue I guess if I was young and single however I am older and have caring responsibilities for my husband. We don’t have a standard lifestyle and probably live very comfortably off (£20k in the UK) but I’m aware that this won’t translate and a stipend of £15k is still 5k less than we’re living very comfortably from here.
    The other part of the query is that because of the research nature of my job and the amazing quality of research in Australia, I’ve wanted to come out for a good few years but because I’m lacking my full clinical qualifications, I don’t qualify for a visa and Universities generally don’t offer sponsorship for contracted or project limited staff. Is there anything which I am missing on this front?
    I also have an aunt and uncle who emigrated with their jobs and who are now citizens, does this have any impact on my ability to live and work (through visa, sponsorship etc) in Australia.
    Any information or signposting you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

    Best wishes,
    Lou

    • BobinOz June 14, 2019, 5:50 pm | Link

      Sorry I can’t help with this Louise, I do not offer advice on qualification for visas. Only MARA registered migration agents can help you with this, to find out more, see Choosing a MARA Registered Migration Agent.

    • RaoulDuke66 June 14, 2019, 6:31 pm | Link

      Hi Lou,
      I’m not a migration agent. I just wanted to query why you wouldn’t be coming on a student visa if you’re studying a PHD with a stipend. Also just to point out that the stipend amounts to a lot less than minimum wage. Just a couple of points for you to consider.

      • Louise June 17, 2019, 6:50 pm | Link

        Thanks, I would if I came as a student but as I’m not sure if I’d have enough income for both of us, the alternative is to find a research post as Australia is one of the leading fronts in my area. This would require a non student visa and alternative visa route to sponsorship (although I’m pretty certain this isn’t doable for my post without sponsorship).

  • arun singh June 12, 2019, 4:23 am | Link

    Hi Bob,
    Thisis Arun from India. I have recently been offered a position in Perth by my current company and have been asked if I can move with my family. Visas/Tickets, Shipping Goods will be taken care by them. I have been offered a 75KAUD annually with 10K Additionla bonus every year. We are a family of 4 with 2 two young boys ( aged 6yrs and 4months).I am really hesitant to make a move with this offer as it seems less for staying in Perth. Could you please share your views on same. Thanks a ton.

    • RaoulDuke66 June 12, 2019, 5:12 pm | Link

      Hi Arun. If the 75k includes superannuation, you would take home $1000 per week. You could rent the most basic 2 bed unit or townhouse for about $250 per week. You could eat for about $200 per week. About half your regular income would go in food and rent alone. If your wife was intending to work that would change the equation…

      • Arun June 12, 2019, 5:16 pm | Link

        Thanks Raul

        • BobinOz June 14, 2019, 5:47 pm | Link

          That’s a reasonably good salary Arun, it’s pretty close to the national average, may be a tad higher than the average these days with your additional 10k.

          As has been suggested, if you can keep your weekly rent slow, you will have a reasonable standard of living and there are plenty of things you can do for free. Perth offers a great lifestyle for families, so whilst you might not be rich on that salary, I think you could enjoy a very good way of life.

  • RaoulDuke66 June 11, 2019, 3:57 pm | Link

    When my wife and I first moved to Brisbane 7 years ago, it was on a single salary of 85k. Back then the conversion said that was GBP50k, but of course conversion doesn’t tell you anything useful. As you say, it’s completely legitimate and intelligent to ask about salary versus living standards. Well we managed to live on the 85k and save a little, but that was with the LAFHA tax break (remember that?). When that went, I had to go to my employer and ask for a raise in order to stay (which luckily I got). Anyway, things improved steadily as my wife and I requalified here, she got her first job, and we started building experience in our Oz jobs. We now have a household income of about 360k but what I’ve realised along the way is that people immediately increase their lifestyle to match their incomes (bigger house, two cars), and still complain they can’t make ends meet. This is why people on above average incomes can sound very entitled (referring to Kevin’s previous comment). As you always say, the amount of income you need depends on your lifestyle. Brisbane has lots of things to be enjoyed for free – Southbank Beach, Glasshouse Mountains, Mount Coot-tha, Shorncliffe Pier, Raby Bay etc, and shopping in a certain German food retail establishment keeps food costs way down. All that being said, I personally wouldn’t accept a role here to support 2 people if it was paying less than 100k. That would be a bit of a threshold for me.

    • BobinOz June 14, 2019, 5:33 pm | Link

      Well, looks like you’re all set now, 360k is a very good joint income for the two of you here in Brisbane, you would have to spend quite magnificently beyond your means not to get by on that amount 🙂

      I do kind of agree with you though, 100k is probably the minimum to live a comfortable lifestyle in Brisbane, although without children, I’m pretty sure 80k will suffice, and I do know of plenty of people who earn less and with careful budgeting still lead a pretty good lifestyle.

      Thanks for your input, Bob

  • Deepa May 9, 2019, 9:01 pm | Link

    Hi Bob,

    My husband got a job is Sydney for 100k $. He will be alone there. Pls guide us if this is sufficient pay for an average life style. Thanks.
    Tia

    • BobinOz May 10, 2019, 3:02 pm | Link

      Yes, your husband will be fine on that salary, especially as he only has himself to take care of. Have a look at my answer to Alex below, he asked a similar question, so it is worth checking out my reply to him as well.

  • Alex in Ireland February 20, 2019, 9:50 pm | Link

    Hiya Bob,

    As with most people, trying to suss out if my package offer will be enough to at least start comfortably in Sydney. I have been offered a base salary of 110k/year + Super + 10% bonus + RSUs and 15k relocation assistance. We are a family of three (me, my wife, and young daughter). The company is located in the CBD.

    1. Is this enough to get by from the start?
    2. Will 15k be enough to start without diving too deep into savings?
    3. What are some well-known family-friendly neighbourhoods/towns within 1hr commute of CBD? Via Public transport that is.

    Thanks so much in advance.

    Alex

    • BobinOz February 21, 2019, 9:07 pm | Link

      Sydney is probably our most expensive city, but that’s a pretty good package you’ll be on. I’m sure there are plenty of people earning less less than that with a wife and young child to support, but getting by just fine.

      15k probably won’t cover everything, by that I mean flights, rental deposit and bond, removal costs and visas, but it will certainly help out a good deal. If your company are paying for your visas, then 15k might just be enough, maybe.

      As for where to live, I think you would be best off having a look at the comments made on my pages about Sydney, you can access them all from the main navigation menu above.

      There’s lots of talk about the various suburbs and remember, it’s very much a falling house price market in Sydney at the moment, so best to rent for now.

      Good luck, Bob

      • Alex February 21, 2019, 10:11 pm | Link

        Thanks a mill Bob! Fortunately, the company is covering visa costs for the family so that’s quite nice. I’ll give the neighbourhood section a wee look. I appreciate you taking the time to answer! 🙂

        Good things,

        Alex

        • BobinOz February 25, 2019, 6:44 pm | Link

          That’s handy and will certainly help out. Glad to have helped, hope it all works out.

  • Tasmiyah February 12, 2019, 7:40 pm | Link

    Hi Bob! Thanks for this article.. I am an optometrist and my husband is an accountant.. I’ve googled average salaries and have come up with worst case scenario of about $41k to my hubby and $67k to me. We are a family of 3, just have 1 daughter. The problem is that I may have to work part-time in the beginning as I have to pass exams and undergo additional training to register to work as an optometrist under Australian standards. In doing so, I may only earn about $20k a year for the first year.. Will a total of about $60k be sufficient for a family of 3 that first year considering that I may need to put my little girl into childcare – childcare prices are ridiculously high from what I’ve researched! We are looking at living in Brisbane. Hope to get some insight! Thank you so much!

    • BobinOz February 18, 2019, 6:24 pm | Link

      It’s very difficult for me to say, because I have no idea how much you will be paying for your accommodation. Will you be renting or buying? If you are renting, do you know how much you will be paying each week?

      I think what you need to do is a full budget based on your needs, my page The Cost of Living in Australia of Everything will help you do that.

      I think your budget will need to be very tight, but I do know that there are plenty of couples with one child getting by on 60k a year, so it is doable.

      Good luck, Bob

  • Bryan February 1, 2019, 9:26 pm | Link

    Hi,

    Loved your post! Quick fact about myself, I am single but intended to propose soon! Got a 100k+ AUD salary package in Melbourne office. Is that sufficient to be financially comfortable in the CBD area? I always have the habit to save around 50% of my salary monthly, can that be done? 🙂

    Regards,
    Bryan

    • BobinOz February 4, 2019, 4:40 pm | Link

      100k + is a good salary and you will be just fine on that, it’s enough for both of you, just keep your accommodation costs as low as possible. Pretty sure you won’t be able to save 50% of your monthly salary though, I suspect you’ll be able to save something, but I don’t think it will be anywhere near that.

      Of course, it depends how tightly you can run your budget, maybe you can get close to that, who knows?

      • Bryan February 4, 2019, 10:36 pm | Link

        Aww, thanks for the words Bob! Always love how you interact and advises on others, it was inspiring! The biggest chunk of the expenses probably going to be rental/mortgage, I recently saw that for a single bedroom apartment in Melbourne CBD is around 300k AUD, I was thinking about it. Can a foreigner buy a property straight? Is 20% for deposit always accurate? If that’s the case, monthly repayment should be very minimal (<1k AUD/month). What's your professional advises? 🙂

        • BobinOz February 5, 2019, 8:21 pm | Link

          Thanks for the kind words, I always like those 🙂

          It depends what kind of visa you are on whether or not you can buy a property here, and there may be restrictions on what you can and can’t buy depending on your visa as well. For example, you might only be able to buy a new build.

          You need to Google “FIRB” – which is the Foreign Investment Review Board, hopefully they have the rules on their website. If you can buy though, 20% deposit should be good.

  • Basel December 13, 2018, 2:46 pm | Link

    Hi Bob, I have been offered one year job in Melbourne earning 150k per annum. I will be heading back to the UK after that. My wife will probably not work and I have two kids (6 year old and 9 month old). I am expecting the worst and trying to put in my calculations paying for my sons public schools fees (around $1000 per month?). Searching on realestate.com.au, I can see a lot of renting options between $650-800/week for two bedroom flat which we will be happy with as its temporary. I am not planning on buying a car and wanting to use public transportation. Say my rent is around $3k/month and taking school fees into consideration that’s around $4k/month, assuming the take home salary is $8000/month or thereabouts that should leave me with $4000 to live with, I feel that’s enough to support my family.. is that correct or am I missing something?

    • BobinOz December 13, 2018, 8:24 pm | Link

      No, I don’t think you are missing anything, in fact you may have over estimated the ‘public’ school fees with only one of your kids being of school age. Public school here means state school, and I do know that some temporary visa holders have to pay for state schools whilst they’re here, but I thought it was about $6000-$7000 a year in Victoria?

      If you’re talking about a private school though, and prices do vary massively for those, but I’m sure you can get one for around $1000 a month if that’s what you mean.

      Either way, I think you will have enough to support your family, you won’t be rich, but you won’t be hungry either. May I suggest you check out my recent post about a series of articles called Cash Confessions which, in some ways, will help answer your question but also show you why it is so difficult for anyone to give a meaningful answer. Here’s a link to the article…

      https://www.bobinoz.com/blog/22877/real-australians-reveal-their-incomes-and-monthly-expenses/

      Hope that helps and good luck, Bob

  • Sara December 3, 2018, 9:03 pm | Link

    Hi bob
    My husband and i are thinking about moving to Australia. We live in the middle east and we are both pharmacists.
    We have 2 kids. we want to know if we both worked will it be good? Financially
    Thank you

    • BobinOz December 4, 2018, 5:21 pm | Link

      It depends how much each of you are going to be earning. I tried to google the average income for a pharmacist in Australia, one website said $68,000 a year and another $117,000. That’s a pretty big difference between the two, so it depends where you each end up on the pay scale.

      Do remember that Sydney and Melbourne are our two most expensive cities, so if you can avoid living in either of those, your dollar will go much further in any one of our other cities or towns.

  • Peter Byrne November 28, 2018, 11:01 pm | Link

    Hi Bob,

    I’ve received a job offer in Perth with a starting base salary of 90k per year.

    I currently live in Malaysia and I’m on RM60k (AUD20k) per year.

    Cost of living in Malaysia is quite cheap so it’s hard to compare the salary figures. The only real problem in Malaysia is that property prices here are excessive because I’m not a Malaysian citizen. I need to spend a minimum of RM1m (AUD328k) to enter the property market, which is unaffordable for me. (My partner is Malaysian though so that’s the main reason I’m here!)

    90k seems like an amazing offer when compared to my current salary as I could actually afford mortgage repayments on a property in Australia.

    However, through some research on forums, quite a lot of people think 90k isn’t really all that great a salary in Australia these days.

    What do you think? Is it worth picking everything up and starting over for what seems like a good income?

    Thanks in advance!

    • BobinOz November 29, 2018, 8:44 pm | Link

      90k isn’t a bad salary, it’s above the national average, last time I looked, but some people do earn a lot more and plenty of people quite a bit less. Whether or not it’s worth you swapping your Malaysian lifestyle to come here, I really have no idea, I couldn’t even guess.

      I’d be surprised if it wasn’t worthwhile though, Australia is very much a fun country to live in. On that salary, if it’s just you, you do have a chance of getting on the property ladder if you budget carefully. If your girlfriend could come over and add a second income, all the better.

      As for your question about the salary though, you may want to read an article I wrote recently about a series of Cash Confessions, which shows just how differently people cope on their incomes, you can read it here…

      https://www.bobinoz.com/blog/22877/real-australians-reveal-their-incomes-and-monthly-expenses/

      Good luck, Bob

      • Peter Byrne December 2, 2018, 2:18 pm | Link

        Thanks for the insight Bob and for pointing me to your article, seems like it’s a good and fair starting salary, which can only increase over time hopefully.

        The change of country, culture and lifestyle is still something to think about!

  • Christie November 18, 2018, 4:52 pm | Link

    Thoughts from a German couple: Me and my partner have now been living in Adelaide for 14 months. Before we moved here we calculated salaries, tax, cost of living, exchange rates back and forths and concluded that we can probably sustain our life style (financially) but we might have to cut back a bit and enjoy more the Australian life-style by means of quality of living. 14 months later I can say that we have never been better financially! We have never managed to save so much money in one year! My savings at the end of the months are 3-4 times higher than they were in Germany. Our gross income is a bit lower than it was in Germany ( keep in mind the ever changing exchange rate) but we pay here a lot less tax and health insurance! Health insurance in Germany is mandatory and takes about 12% of your gross income (+12% payed by your employer). Here we have a luxus-insurance for 600 AUD for both of us per months. That sounds a lot for Aussie but is a bargain for us.
    That said, moving to Australia has improved our quality of life and our savings account!

    PS: yes, we are earning pretty well here, with a household income of 210 k but all of the above is still true!

    • BobinOz November 19, 2018, 6:01 pm | Link

      It’s great to hear your comments Christie, because so many people have the impression that Australia is super expensive, when I really don’t think it is. Sometimes it’s good to hear what life is like in other countries, and I was quite shocked to hear about your 12% contribution to health insurance in Germany, and even more shocked to hear that employers have to match that with another 12%.

      As you probably know, in the US health insurance and/or contributions are through the roof as well, and somebody somewhere from the US made a list of all the taxes and contributions they pay there, and it went on forever, including contributions to the local fire service. Add to that the state taxes on most goods and then the tipping culture on virtually everything, and ‘cheap’ USA starts to get expensive.

      I don’t think we do so bad here, and I think the health service is fantastic and I’m pretty sure I only pay about 1.5% of my income to the Medicare levy for that. As you say, you are earning well, but incomes in Australia do generally seem to be higher than in, for example, the UK and the USA. So, Australia isn’t so bad.

      Glad to hear you have settled here, thanks for your comment.

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