In the 10 years that we’ve lived in Australia, we’ve bought quite a bit of stuff. Furniture, electrical goods, white goods, beds, houses, cars, all sorts of stuff.
As anybody who buys stuff knows, sometimes things go wrong.
Of all the stuff we’ve bought, things have gone wrong on several occasions, and by and large these things have always been sorted out quite amicably and speedily by the retailers.
Recently though, we’ve had a bit of a spate of things going wrong with stuff we’ve bought. So, for the first time since I’ve been here, I went online to check out Australian Consumer Law (ACL).
Australian Consumer Law and the ACCC
The ACCC (pronounced A triple C) is the Australian Competition & Consumer Commission. As they say on their website…
“The ACCC promotes competition and fair trade in markets to benefit consumers, businesses, and the community. We also regulate national infrastructure services. Our primary responsibility is to ensure that individuals and businesses comply with Australian competition, fair trading, and consumer protection laws – in particular the Competition and Consumer Act 2010.”
It is in Schedule 2 of the above-mentioned Competition and Consumer Act 2010 where you will find the full text of Australian Consumer Law (ACL).
I found myself looking into the specifics of the ACL after purchasing an armchair here in Australia. For the last 15 or so years I’ve been sitting on the same leather armchair, one that was made for me by a furniture manufacturer back in England…
It’s still a great chair, but the leather, as you can see from the patchwork above, has started to fall apart. We’d been looking for a replacement for what seemed forever and found nothing suitable. Then we saw a pretty good-looking chair, and comfortable, from an upmarket Brisbane furniture store.
That wonderful leather armchair we had built in the UK cost £550. Adjusted for inflation, at today’s money, that’s equivalent of £863.50. At the current conversion rate of 1.80 to Aussie dollars, that makes my UK chair $1554.30.
So, at $1823 (plus $150 delivery), the Australian replacement wasn’t cheap, in fact it was the most expensive armchair we’ve ever bought.
Then, after just 3 1/2 months of sitting on the new chair, I noticed this…
As you can see, the seam had already come apart on one of the arms, and it’s completely threaded.
The first place I headed to after noticing the defect was the warranty page on the website of the retailer from which it came. I was a bit shocked to see that they only offered a “twelve-month structural warranty on all goods“, as some furniture manufacturers offer two year, five year and even 10 year guarantees. My bad though, I should have checked the warranty before purchasing the chair.
12 months is the minimum warranty allowed under Australian Consumer Law, so the guarantee that came with this chair doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. I did not want it repaired, I’d lost confidence in it, I wanted my money back.
So next, I headed over to the ACCC and specifically their page on “Repair, replace, refund”. I wanted to know if I could demand a refund. Here’s what I discovered that I felt was specific to my situation:
- there is a difference between a ‘minor problem” and a ‘major problem’; with the latter you can choose to have a refund
- a problem is major if it would have stopped someone from buying it if they’d known about it
- a problem is major if it can’t easily be fixed within a reasonable time
Other considerations are:
- the length of time for which it is reasonable for the product to be used
- the amount of use it could reasonably be expected to tolerate before the failure becomes noticeable
Well, I certainly regarded the problem as major. If I’d have known it was going to fall apart within 3 1/2 months, that would have stopped me from buying it. It didn’t look as though this chair could be easily fixed within a reasonable time either, it looked like a complete re-upholstery job to me.
As for those other considerations, the chair hadn’t had a great deal of use in those 3 1/2 months, I think it’s reasonable to expect it to have been able to tolerate that use without a failure.
Armed with this additional knowledge, I sent a carefully worded email to the retailer…
We purchased this armchair from you in October of last year and took delivery of it in December 2017. Just before Easter we noticed that the join between the left arm and the wingback part of the chair had started to fall apart, see images attached. We immediately stopped using the chair.
Due to the nature of the fault, it would appear that a large amount of the chair would need to be reconstructed in order to fix it, and as such this represents a major failure which cannot be repaired easily. We have also been very disappointed to note that the seat has already begun to sag.
Given that this chair has had less than four months of minimal use, we feel the goods fail to be of an acceptable quality and if we had known that, we would not have purchased this item in the first place. Under Australian Consumer Law, we therefore request a refund in full. We also feel that you should compensate us in full for the $150 delivery charge.
On the retailers website warranty page, they claimed that I needed to return the goods at my expense.
Not true. Back to Australian Consumer Law:
- When a product is too large, too heavy or too difficult to remove, the business is responsible for paying the shipping costs or collecting the product within a reasonable time of being notified of the problem
The chair doesn’t fit in my car, so for my money, that’s “too large“.
And I also requested a refund of my $150 delivery charge, because Australian Consumer Law says you can claim compensation for damages & loss.
The retailer was uncomfortably slow throughout this whole process, but we got there in the end. They sent round an independent inspector to look at the chair and I had only one question to ask him as he left my house, saying he would provide a report to the retailer.
“Is this a major fault or a minor fault?”
“Oh, it’s major.” He said. “It’s a big job, assuming we can still get the exact same material. Quite a bit of it will need reupholstering. I wouldn’t fancy doing it.”
And with those words I knew I would get my refund. And I did, in full, including the delivery charge.
Thank you ACL.
I mentioned a spate of these things earlier, here are the others and they’ve all happened since April of this year. After returning this chair, I purchase another one from a major Australian furniture retailer. I’d sat on the demo version in the store and it was really quite comfortable.
Some assembly was required when I got the chair home, it had a swivel base, but as soon as I completed the construction and sat on it, it felt different.
Very different from the chair in the shop. Also, it was 104 cm high, the description of the goods states it’s 108 cm high. Under Australian Consumer Law:
- a major problem is if it is significantly different from the sample or description
I phoned the salesman up the very next day and said “I’ve got a problem with this chair, it doesn’t feel anything like the sample in your store and the dimensions of the chair are actually different from the description.”
Whether my carefully worded sentence made a difference or not, I’ll never know, but the salesman immediately said “Bring it back and I’ll give you a full refund“. And he did.
I purchased a laptop computer from a major high-street store, the description said it had 128 GB of SSD storage. After I got it home, I discovered that it wasn’t SSD, but instead the significantly inferior eMMC storage. Again, wrong description, instant refund.
So I purchase another laptop computer from a different store, but it was very unstable and every time I closed it down, I got the following error message…
I couldn’t fix it, so I returned it to the store, and they couldn’t fix it either. Clearly a major fault, so I got my money back.
What I like about the ACL is how it defines things quite clearly, and it is that knowledge that gives you the confidence to get what you know to be within your rights. With the UK’s ‘Consumer Rights‘, on the other hand, the information isn’t so precise and many people end up having to go to see Citizens Advice for help.
“Never mind that Bob, what are you going to do about your armchair and laptop?”
Yes, I’ve now decided to get my existing armchair professionally reupholstered. Hopefully I’ll get another 15 years out of it. I also now own a little HP laptop that works very well.
For everything you ever wanted to know about Australian Consumer Law, visit:
One more thing.
Not true. There are refunds. Back to the ACL…
- It is against the law for businesses to tell you or show signs stating that they do not give refunds under any circumstances, including for gifts and during sales.
…This wasn’t Eureka Street Furniture, was it?
No, sorry, it isn’t. The store I’m talking about is quite posh, and I believe they only have two shops in the whole country.
Is the company that sold the swivel chair, which was quite different to the showroom model, the one that has large blue stores?
Well, I know the store you are thinking of, and no, it wasn’t them. I should add that the store I did buy the swivel chair from I have bought plenty of stuff from them over the years. They have always treated me really well and I think the way they dealt with this particular problem was fantastic.
They gave me a quick no fuss refund and I really can’t complain about that. I certainly have no problems buying more things from them.
I’d like a refund from the Australian Government.
15 months ago I made application for a visa – the application fee was $3,000.
Since acknowledgement of the application I’d heard nothing so looked at the website. It states applications are taking a minimum of 39 months to come to review.
I may not live that long. Following on from your blog, Bob, do you know if refunds are offered?
Is that the contributory parent visa? I think some visas take so long because they limit the number that they give out each year, but you have asked an interesting question.
Could you get a refund? Maybe, I suppose it’s worth asking, and if they say no it would be interesting to see what would happen if you reported the government to the ACCC, which is, of course, the government.
Good luck with that 🙂
No, they don’t refund…
What a surprise 🙂
Wow that was a spate of bad luck – glad you were able to resolve them. Hopefully it will give people the confidence to challenge when something is not fit for purpose. Thanks for sharing and hopefully you will have better luck with future purchases!
Yes, it was a bit of an unlucky run, and I’m certainly glad to have got my money back on them all. And yes, Australian Consumer Law does give you the confidence to not put up with something that isn’t up to scratch.