Living in Melbourne

Melbourne CityMelbourne is the capital of Victoria and the second largest city in Australia. It has a population of around 4.35 million people and is on the southern coast of the eastern half of Australia’s mainland. Melbourne is sheltered from the ocean by the beautiful Port Phillip Bay.
Melbourne Location
According to the Economist Intelligence Unit’s 2014 Liveability Survey, Melbourne is the most liveable city in the world, claiming top spot for the fourth year in a row. A high recommendation indeed.

Melbourne is divided by the Yarra River that flows straight through the heart of the city. And what a beautiful city it is. It has the charm of a tram system and a beautiful mix of tall modern skyscrapers and established historic buildings with great architecture.

Melbourne seems to attract a greater variety of immigrants than any other city in Australia. There are more than 200 different nationalities making it one of the most multicultural cities in the world. It has a large Greek contingent, as well as Italians, Chinese, Spanish, Portuguese and Indian residents. It is also a young person’s city with almost half of the population aged under 35.

The streets have a lively feel about them and Melburnians enjoy live music, performing arts, including public street performances, fashion, independent music and independent film.

But you can still make off for the beach. St Kilda and Brighton beaches are both close to the city and are highly recommended. A little further out will find you at Sandringham and further still, Mordialloc beach. Both are very popular. But if you want some really stunning beach scenery, you only need to jump into your car for about an hour or so and you’ll be at the beginning of the Great Ocean Road. It starts at Torquay and winds for about four or five hour’s worth of driving and takes you all the way to Warrnambool.

What’s the weather like?

Melbourne Annual WeatherMelbourne is known as a city that can have four seasons in one day. They have weather that can turn on a sixpence. I have experienced this myself, sort off. A lunchtime temperature of around 35°C turned into a chilling 16°C by around five o’clock in the evening.

Wild winds and thunderstorms can descend out of clear blue skies and winters can be quite cold and very dull, with probably the fewest hours of sunshine found anywhere in Australia.

But summers can be extremely hot and very dry. The intense heat often stops trains from running on their tracks and some areas have a high risk of bushfires.

I loved Melbourne when I was there, the city has a really good feel about it. I’d be tempted to live there if I felt I could cope with the winters, but I’m not sure that I can. Best I stay in Brisbane then.

Here’s a map of the Greater Melbourne area:

Greater Melbourne Map
Melbourne can be broken down into five main geographical areas:

Each of those areas contain Local Government Areas (LGA’s) which I have listed next to each geographical area.

  • Inner Melbourne – includes the LGA’s City, Docklands, Port Phillip and Yarra.
  • Northern Melbourne – includes the LGA’s Banyule, Darebin, Hume, Moonee Valley, Moreland, Nillumbik and Whittlesea.
  • South Eastern Melbourne – includes the LGA’s Bayside, Cardinia, Casey, Greater Dandenong, Glen Eira, Kingston, Monash and Stonnington. Both Frankston and Mornington Peninsula are part of South Eastern Suburbs but are not shown on this map. They’re both south of Kingston and overlook Port Phillip Bay. A fair way from the city centre, but a stones throw to the sea.
  • Eastern Melbourne – includes the LGA’s Boroondara, Knox, Manningham, Maroondah, Whitehorse and Yarra Ranges.
  • Western Melbourne – includes the LGA’s Brimbank, Hobsons Bay, Maribyrnong and Wyndham.

Details of Melbourne’s suburbs are listed on my sub pages for Melbourne which you can access from the main navigation menu above by hovering over ‘Australian Cities’ and then ‘Melbourne’.

Questions about Melbourne?

If you have any question about living in Melbourne, please please feel free to ask them in the comments below. Or if you know this city well, why not tell us what you think of it or maybe even help out by answering some of the questions people have about the area. I’m sure anybody thinking of moving here would be very grateful for any help you can give them.

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  • Nehal September 25, 2016, 5:31 pm | Link

    Hello ,
    My name is Nehal , I’ m from Egypt . I’m looking forward to moving to Melborne next year . The problem is that I don’t where is the best place considering safety , low apartment rent ranges and job opportunity . Should I go to North Melborne , south Melborne , East Melborne or the West one ? What are the differences between them , advantages and disadvantages .Or if any one suggests a better city concerning my criteria

  • Araceli September 24, 2016, 9:59 pm | Link

    Hi Bob, I’m a 45 year Spanish woman living and working in Paris. I need to improve my English (as a matter of fact it’s my friend who’s writing this for me) for professional reasons and I’ve decided to spend 3 months in Australia attending English lessons. I wasn’t sure about which city to choose and I was told Melbourne is a great place to be, with loads of cultural events going on and a very nice population.
    Now I have to look for the English school and share accomodation, but to be honest I’m a bit lost as to where start. I’d love to share a flat with people and I was wondering which is the best area in Melbourne city. I’m a city girl so I don’t see myself living in the suburbs, but again I don’t know anything about Australia, nor about Melbourne and I could be wrong. I’m planning to arrive beginning of February and leaving atthe end of April.
    Another possibility would be to exchange flats. I live in the centre of Paris, in Belleville.
    Anyway, if someone reads this and has any ideas I’d be most grateful to him or her.

  • Mushthaq September 21, 2016, 4:01 pm | Link

    Hi everyone,

    I’m planning to migrate to Australia. And my preferred city is Melbourne.

    I’m 25 and will be moving with my wife who is 23. We are looking for a house with one bedroom and a small nice looking garden to stay with a nice surrounding and a friendly neighborhood which would cost around $300 AUD per week in Melbourne. Could you please share your thoughts on the best suburbs that suits us?

    Thank you,

  • MUKARRAM MOHAMMAD September 21, 2016, 6:12 am | Link

    Hi Bob & Everyone
    Thanks heaps for the answers you provide on this site, very helpful.
    You are a champ and good human on earth. My name is Mohammad Mukarram, originally from Hyderabad City of India (well known for Hyderabadi Biryani, special Indian dish), lived in Middle East countries like U.A.E., Saudi Arabia, Sultanate of Oman, Kingdom of Bahrain, Qatar for more than 12 years due to Job, currently living in Auckland, New Zealand as Permanent Resident for past 5 1/2 years and will be receiving our NZ Citizenship by early next year.

    FYI, I am an Information Technology Support Professional with Masters in Computer Sciences. We are planning to move to Melbourne in mid or end of next year and prefer to live in Peace, safe, friendly society and neighborhood. We have got young children, 3 girls and 1 boy and safety is utmost important. We are planning to sell our house in Auckland and buy a new house under $400000.00 range. Which suburbs do you recommend considering the travel time to city not more than 45 mins.

    Your advise in this will be much appreciated.

    Thanks Champ


    • BobinOz September 21, 2016, 7:04 pm | Link

      Thanks for your kind words Mohammed, very much appreciated.

      I personally don’t recommend suburbs in Melbourne simply because I don’t know that city well enough. If you have a good look through the comments here though, you will see there is a mountain of discussion about the various suburbs in this city including what is good, what’s bad, and what’s average.

      Have a good look through, I’m sure you will pick up some great advice, other than that you may well get a response from one of the locals with suggestions that might suit your needs.

      Good luck, Bob

      • MUKARRAM MOHAMMAD September 22, 2016, 5:48 am | Link

        Hi Bob

        Thanks for your reply. Sure will go through the comments.

  • Ali September 18, 2016, 7:29 am | Link

    Fantastic article/website Bob!

    I’m planning to move in Jan myself – want to be able to access CBD through transport easily, close to shops such as Coles, and in a good neighbourhood. Everywhere in Melbourne looks very nice, but as we’re not familiar with the city, we don’t want to accidentally move into the middle of a dense Greek community or something similar, if you know what I mean? Do you know of any suburbs with a good mix of cultures, easy transport, shops, and an affordable price ($300-$400 for one/two bedrooms)? – We currently live in a shoebox in the middle of Brisbane student suburbs – anything will be bigger, better and cheaper!

    I can’t believe how difficult it would have been to move interstate before the internet and all these wonderful blog sites to help us! That’s all I’ve been thinking about as I’ve been looking at moving! 🙂

    • Mark September 18, 2016, 12:06 pm | Link

      Hi Ali There are several areas that your are limited with price wise, but not really any that limit you culturally, Id be tempted to have a look on for properties first seeing whats in your range…There was talk a awhile back that apartments in the CBD where in over supply not sure if this is still the case though cant imagine its changed that much in six months…The areas slightly north have decent transport but look for rail stations as well on a map and then you can always drive around using google street eg find your coles etc etc there are few areas out to the east and west that may suit but again will be limited by budget… As regards your demographics and cultures just google Wikipedia Demographics of Melbourne and that save me writing it all tells you most of what your are looking for Finally have a trip down Melbourne does see to get harder to rent buy just after Christmas as people have held of putting in market. or what was on before was usually overpriced.

  • Usama Ahmed September 4, 2016, 9:00 pm | Link

    hello everyone .. I have been offered an admission in Deakin University Melbourne so i will move to Melbourne soon can anyone please suggest me a financially reasonable place to live in near to the university

    • Bob September 8, 2016, 2:44 pm | Link

      Try the Burwood Student Village. I have been to Melbourne for few weeks only twice. I am sure someone living there can be of more help. Goodluck

  • Lou September 1, 2016, 1:32 pm | Link

    So many helpful comments – hope you can help us too. Will be moving to Melbourne in January. Working in South Bank and much prefer to be able to cycle to work (up to 1/2 hour, approx 10km ok, on cycle paths or avoiding main roads) rather than drive/transport commute.

    Am a little familiar with the east (Balwyn etc) from old friends but perhaps a bit pricey and thinking it would be good to know other regions that may suit our needs better.

    Things important to us would be a clean, safe suburb, proximity to a good middle of the range private school (Catholic or similar cost), rent between 600-800/week or so and “not bogan” (if I can put it that way…). Being near a greenway/cycleway/beach would be a bonus.

    Thanks in advance 🙂

    • Mark September 3, 2016, 9:58 am | Link

      I think if of you stayed inside the M1 and coast on a map as far down as Hampton (might be stretching your 10k) many of those areas woudl suit particularly looking at Brighton

      • Lou September 5, 2016, 6:48 am | Link

        Thanks for that, appreciate the advice.

  • Trina September 1, 2016, 11:44 am | Link

    Why is it that no one wants to live in the city? It seems really convenient for me with all the malls, shops, library and train stations within walking distance. Is there anything bad about it?

    • Mark September 1, 2016, 1:10 pm | Link

      There is nothing wrong with it,,Intrinsically its associated with a city style and I personally would not want to live in the city Much depends on where you choose to live in the country you come from…Eg if you liked living in the middle of Cheshire or Norfolk in the UK why would it change here you woudl still want the freedom the less chaos if for example you lived in Canary Wharf or even Notting Hill in London then the city is for you….The city is a lovely vibrant place when I visit but come weekend it like many other places takes on a different culture like Notting Hill does. Im also not sure there are many schools in teh city just as youd struggle to find one in Canary wharf

  • Prince September 1, 2016, 3:15 am | Link

    Im moving to Melbourne with my wife and 4 yr old twins from India on a 457 visa. Im looking for family friendly suburbs in Northern Melbourne with good schools and child care facilities. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    • Mark September 1, 2016, 2:25 pm | Link

      Happy to try and help but could you narrow it down a bit more Do you have a budget price range rent or buy ? Do you have an preference on northern Melbourne as its a big area maybe dictated by work travel time

      • Prince September 1, 2016, 6:29 pm | Link

        I’ll be working at Sunshine hospital. Looking for rental homes with budget around 400AUD per week. Child care and schools our main priority. Thanks Mark

        • Mark September 3, 2016, 9:51 am | Link

          Im not so great on the northern suburbs that side but anywhere near Sunshine does not seem to have a bad reputation. Lets face it is the worlds most liveable city so your off to a great start… If you can manage the commute Williamstown and Altona are great places but may stretch your budget of course if you are close by is just as good

          • Prince September 3, 2016, 1:22 pm | Link

            Thanks for your suggestion Mark

  • Joe August 25, 2016, 11:38 am | Link

    I work from home and have two young kids (2 & 4). Can you recommend some area with great school, safe neighborhood, friendly people, with parks and things to do with kids? Our budget for rent is 1000/wk. It would be nice to have beach access but not necessary.

    Thanks so much for your help.

    • Melbourne Rental Search August 25, 2016, 2:08 pm | Link

      Hi Joe,
      We suggest, Brighton, Hampton and Sandringham. These are considered to be quite prestigious suburbs, on the beach, family friendly, safe and only about 20 – 25min on the train to the CBD.
      If you need a hand to secure a rental property, please don’t hesitate to get in touch.
      Good luck with the big move! 🙂
      – Jade

      • Mark August 26, 2016, 10:43 am | Link

        Hi Joe… Im assuming some things here but never like assuming, if you want to correct me.. If you work from home then your coming out on a potential permanent visa otherwise you would work form home In any country…If you have no requirement to be near the CBD then I wouldn’t…I have a 10 percent requirement eg I work form home but have meetings in the CBD and I deiced to avoid it…Depends whether your a city sort or country as well…Id also assume with that sort of rental budget you might have some spare capital funds and a deposit in which case Id buy straight off with app 4000 on a mortgage a month that would get you some mortgage and woudl not be dead money down the pan on rental….maybe rent for a few months 2 or 3 whilst you find….You can get holiday lets….Id also look further south than the CBD right down as far as far a s Mt Martha on the east side perhaps even one lower the upcoming Safety beach,, you get a lot more for your money and are no so city styled as Brighton….Whilst Brighton has a great school there are many more south of there giving you beaches more choices of properties and more choices all round.

      • Joe August 26, 2016, 12:50 pm | Link

        Hi Jade,
        Thanks for your suggestion. I noticed there are also Brighton East, Hampton East. How far easy would you say we should stop before the neighbor turn unsafe?

        • Melbourne Rental Search August 29, 2016, 11:24 am | Link

          Hi Joe, There is a whole cluster of Suburbs that make up the area called Bayside. These suburbs include- Beaumaris, Black Rock, Brighton, Brighton East, Hampton, Hampton East, Highett (part) and Sandringham. You really cant go wrong with this whole little pocket. When searching on Search ‘Bayside’ and this will bring up the suburbs that I think will be ideal for you. If you have any further questions at all, please dont hesiate to give me a call 🙂

  • Shelly August 21, 2016, 7:17 pm | Link

    Hi, We may be moving to Melbourne in the near future. Have no clue which are good suburbs to choose. Hubby working at Tullamarine airport, so wouldn’t want a commute of more than approx 30mins by car. We have 2 young kids. We like the newer housing developments so we can buy a new home, we love Stockland developments as we live in one in QLD. Not into old homes and renovating etc. Somewhere with low/no crime, if that exists. Have checked and there seems to be some beautiful new homes in suburbs like Craigieburn, Doreen, Mernda, South Morang… are these decent suburbs? Which would be more desirable? The more I google the more I find conflicting reviews about these types os suburbs. Some rave about how fantastic they are, and others warn ‘STAY AWAY’ from these suburbs. Budget to buy a house would be 700/750k max, I reckon. Please, any advice on any decent areas would be appreciated, thanks.

    • Mark August 25, 2016, 6:47 pm | Link

      Your always going to get someone complaining of some place or another…The lower the area the more complaints the higher the area the less. A decent reflection of statistics can be found here that gives you rates on particular things not folks opinions if it helps

      • Shelly August 26, 2016, 2:37 am | Link

        Thanks Mark. Do you mean the lower priced areas the more complaints vs the higher? That link is in Chinese, is there a way to change to english? Thanks so much!

        • Mark August 26, 2016, 10:18 am | Link

          Its a general comment…and people complain of different things of course….Take as an example Ascot Berkshire and Hackney London… we dont have to be geniuses to work out there will be likely less social problems in Ascot ….People tend to complain more about unhappy than they will write about happy.. Eg how many times do people write a bad review of a restaurant but dont bother writing a good review of another one Yes the website is a Chinese one but its in English try googling…. house ksou….

  • Valentin August 20, 2016, 11:57 pm | Link

    Hi, I’m a 24 yr old bloke from Adelaide. I am looking at moving to Melbourne (alone) next year 2017. My priority is finding a good, fairly safe suburb that’s not too far from the CBD. I want to work full-time (security and retail) for a year whilst I figure out how to get into either the University of Melbourne or Monash University (Clayton campus) in 2018.
    What suburb would you or any locals on here, recommend for me? Keeping in mind I would also love a fairly inexpensive suburb as I’ll be renting.

    • BobinOz August 25, 2016, 6:36 pm | Link

      If nobody else helps you out here Valentin, you might get some useful information from my page called Which Suburb?

      Good luck, Bob

    • Mark August 25, 2016, 6:42 pm | Link

      I sadly dont know the areas around the Clayton campus (eg it would save moving again in 2018) that well with the exception of Springvale which doesn’t look a bad suburb Without a budget though its hard to pinpoint how inexpensive you are looking for id have a look on real estate .com .au with your budget in mind

  • Donny Sevalla August 18, 2016, 8:20 pm | Link

    Hi ! Can you pls help us. We are planning to move to Melbourne with my family and two kids 9 and 5 yrs old. Honestly we do not have a savings to move . We just going to sell our furniture store and appliances here in mackay qld. Can you help us where can we move to stay with consideration of looking a job there in Melbourne and for our kids also.

    • BobinOz August 18, 2016, 8:30 pm | Link

      There are lots of comments on this page and many of them are about where to live in Melbourne. If you read some of them, you will see that for the most part getting a job comes first, and then choosing where to live so that you are close to work comes second.

      Also, nobody can recommend any suburbs or areas to you without you giving more information about what you want from a suburb. How much do you want to spend on renting or buying somewhere to live, for example, is essential information.

      So may I suggest you read some of the comments already made here, think about what it is you want from a suburb in Melbourne and then come back and give us more information. If you can do that, hopefully somebody local to Melbourne will be able to make meaningful suggestions to you.

      Cheers, Bob

    • Mark August 19, 2016, 7:48 am | Link

      Hi Donny Yes as Bob says more than happy to help with some possible recommendations but also as he says Melbourne is a big place,,,So I always ask the questions Bob has posed to try and help. As an example it would be no good suggesting to someone to live in Point Cook if they had a Job in Dandenong, Unless it was a helicopter pilot who could take his her work home, Thats probably 2 hours, 1 way commute by car….
      You are a bit different s you are already in the country…Is it Furniture and appliances you will stay working with in selling your store…that means you could work many places but again without a budget its hard. I guess in selling you will have a price in mind. but rent or buy
      What I can say ,,,, 2 helpful points ,,,, renting is frequently more expensive than buying on a monthly like for like basis mortgage v rent thats assuming you have a decent contribution and are not looking at massively different properties, Secondly Even if you say your profession many will be able to say where to look for jobs Eg from St Kilda south down the Nepean Hwy is more car sales and therefore mechanics service manager than you can shake a stick at….From what info we have in your case id look to the West side where rents property is cheaper and there are plenty of furniture appliance places you might work.

  • Michael Noone August 7, 2016, 7:06 am | Link

    Hi all,i will be moving to Melbourne within the next two months with my wife and four children ages 5,4,3,2. Could anybody give me some useful feedback on the best surrounding suburbs to raise my family?….

    • Mark August 7, 2016, 11:35 am | Link

      Need a few bits from your email. Do you have a job to go to and where. if not do you have any idea of where your work style suits eg office CBD or maybe Mechanic Commuting long distances may see you back on the plane. Budget you have rental or buy. otherwise there are just to many suburbs

    • Melbourne Rental Search August 8, 2016, 11:38 am | Link

      Hi Michael,
      This is something that we can absolutely assist you with. We have a survey that I could email you, that basically lets us know what is important to you in a suburb/new home and we can suggest some areas from there. Feel free to shoot me through an email and we can go from there if you like.

  • Senga Barrell August 6, 2016, 8:26 pm | Link

    We’re a middle aged couple looking to move to Melbourne from London (previously lived in Perth, WA for many years). No kids but two large Golden Retrievers. Looking for a dog friendly suburb which is near to or has easy transport links to nice cafes, bars, etc. We will most likely work in the CBD but happy to commute so that we can have a decent sized block. Guess we’re looking for something in between trendy, inner city hipster ville and a retirement area. Grateful for suggestions.

    • BobinOz August 7, 2016, 9:32 pm | Link

      From my limited knowledge of Melbourne, ‘trendy, inner city hipster ville’ = St Kilda. Except I would probably throw in the word ‘bohemian’ as well. Might be worth a look though, but you would also be better off waiting to see what some of the locals suggest.

      Cheers, Bob

    • mark August 7, 2016, 9:53 pm | Link

      Do you have a budget in mind Im assuming buying and no beach requirements, dogs and all There arent many places that are not dog friendly Brighton down to Chelsea are mostly all good as is inland from there all with rail links but it does depend on budget. Im not so gret on the north of the city places and semi retired type areas there

      • Senga Barrell August 8, 2016, 10:22 pm | Link

        We will need to rent initially and then buy. We have sold in Perth inner city so have a respectable budget given that we are willing to move out. Kind of landed on the Dandenong fringes to get the land space but open to further suggestion.

        • Mark August 9, 2016, 7:14 am | Link

          You have probably honed in on the right area if you are ok with the commute you could go out as far as on the edge of dandenong. to say cockatoo or emerald but you are trading some of the coffee shops bars etc for land space. Dandenong itself is probably the most multicultural part of Melbourne. Id have a look on real estate .com au and see what there is and as I suggest to many drive round on google street map perhaps on another laptop.

          • Senga Barrell August 9, 2016, 7:31 am | Link

            Thanks, great feedback. After London a Melbourne commute will be a dream. Two hours plus to get home this evening!
            Are you in Real Estate? If so, would be interested to make contact.


            • Mark August 9, 2016, 7:55 am | Link

              No Though I am in a profession disliked but not as bad as realtors They have just been voted 3rd worst lot to trust out here. As a person who picks there mess up at times I can see why. though in fairness there are some good ones. Most are intent on good but perhaps forget to mention the odd thing sometimes. yes as for London even the day we left ..we drove from Pulborough to London 1 hour then London end of M4 to St Pancras (train to Paris far cheaper flights, less air tax) took 1 hour 40 minutes

      • Laxmi August 22, 2016, 1:17 pm | Link

        Hi Mark. You’ve been incredibly informative. I was wondering if you could possibly help me.
        I am looking to buy a apartment or house of 2 bedroom Max at $350k. My husband Bd I both have full time job but not much savings. I would be interested in Dandenong, Craigieburn in melbourne few other suburb.

        • Mark August 24, 2016, 2:41 pm | Link

          Your best option now is to look on .au for your chosen areas The Cragieburn I know little of Dandenong I know a lot of. Dandenong has its good and not so good parts, its also feels like the hub of distribution businesses at times and is very very multicultural There are many languages you can eat in even at the market,,,There is many a shop from the English butchers to the Halal Pizza. You will find lots of properties on real estate and having just looked both areas will fit your budget and requirements Im slightly confused by the diverse area choice of these two, distance wise have you looked out of Dandening say Cranbourne might be to far south but better houses better area

  • Suzanne August 5, 2016, 6:48 pm | Link

    Hi guys!
    My husband, myself and our currently 1 year old are looking to relocate to Melbourne from the UK in the next couple of years.
    What would be a good area for us? We’d have a budget of around $250k. Not loads I know but our requirements would only be 2 beds and a garden of some kind. Ideally we’d wanna be around 30 mins of Melbourne.
    Thanks in advance 🙂 x

    • Mark August 5, 2016, 10:26 pm | Link

      If you go on real estate .com .au and search by price its a tough one at that budget and im assuming thats mortgage free but I am also guessing youd be working, 1 of you, so you can get a mortgage I can even put you in touch with a decent broker…Way better than banks. In fact I was advised by a top senior at one of the banks to use a broker. Not sure about places north but as there sis s oem new building. I would be tempted to have a look at all compass points of Cranbourne, a more like 40 45 to CBD but an upcoming area and arguably on the Mornington Peninsular 15 minutes ish to beach. We are looking at buying a 2nd as a rental there.

      • Suzanne August 6, 2016, 12:38 am | Link

        Hi Mark! Thanks for the reply.
        And the $250k would probably be our absolute max as our property here in the UK is only worth about £90k. (We live in Stoke on Trent. It’s not the most expensive part of England) I guess it would all depend on what kind of salary my husband can expect with a job.

        • Mark August 6, 2016, 1:32 am | Link

          Hi Suzanne Yes know SOT well. Mostly scooting through on way to BOT and Uttoxetter I can honestly say its a world apart here from Stoke I see a car here frequently with STOKEC as licence plate And yes I am in AUS despite the reply time I work for a UK LA based outfit so conference calling at 1.30am ahhhh. Im guessing you have looked at Visas and your husband is on the required list can I ask what salary you think it might be if you have looked or occupation. 90k at present nets you around a poor 160 Aussie allow expenses and some fall back 140. youd need a mortgage for maybe 200 250 aus thats a lot cheaper paying that than renting here. In an educated guess a lot bigger house. I imagine terrace or at best small semi in SOT, Your garage would be bigger here. Its harder to find a 1 car garage.than 2. heck we bought a place with 4. You would easily qualify for a mortgage with a job even my UK job was accepted. Its do able. just depends on job and yes salaries are better and I am not sure the cost of living is higher I actually think its cheaper. .

          • Suzanne August 6, 2016, 8:53 pm | Link

            Hi Mark!
            Thats really informative. Thanks!
            Our house here in SOT is a 1 be

            • Suzanne August 6, 2016, 8:56 pm | Link

              oops!!! Didnt mean to do that!
              Our house here is a 1 bedroom link detached bungalow with garage and garden. Its a lot of house for the money!
              And yeah, we’ve had a look and my husband’s job is on the list. He’s a software engineer (research engineer) and he has a pHd.
              It all sounds very positive anyway! Exciting!!

              • Mark August 6, 2016, 11:01 pm | Link

                Its a no thought process, or as the say ‘no brainer’. You will be far,far better off. You may miss friends family but with skype and electronics go for it. Dont get me wrong it is possible as its not for all you wont like it but id give it a go all day long. I struggle with lots of the UK places that have seen better times, Stoke with the loss of business never really got going again. You will give your child a far better opportunity I feel sure. .

                • Suzanne August 6, 2016, 11:40 pm | Link

                  Yeah, it’s something we’ve been on about since my husband did his degree and as you say we think it’ll be a far better place for our wee un to grow up.
                  We wouldn’t really be in a position to move for another couple of years but if you could send me details of a broker, I have them then for future reference! Thanks 🙂

                  • Mark August 7, 2016, 10:55 am | Link

                    As its an ever changing scenery you would be best getting yourselves down the path a way. There are lots of brokers I can send details off some are better in certain areas (not geographic) than others. First things are get your visas, Or holiday.

                    • Suzanne August 8, 2016, 11:29 pm | Link

                      Hi Mark. You’ve been incredibly informative. I was wondering if you could possibly help me out again.
                      We’re in the process of getting all the documents together for my husbands skills assessment and one of his previous employers won’t supply him with the proof of employment he needs. He can get a statutory declaration from a colleague but it needs to be witnessed by someone in Australia or the consolate? Do you know anything about that? Thanks 🙂

                    • Mark August 9, 2016, 7:37 am | Link

                      Im not sure who has asked for the details perhaps you are using an immigration agent. A statutory declaration is somewhat like an affidavit in UK a statutory declaration in Australia can be witnessed by a certain list of professionals from doctor pharmacist etc to justice and so on in other words one person make a statement and then swears it to be true and correct in front of the professional. It effectively the same but in the UK it needs swearing in front of a solicitor. an affidavit. is not expensive around £7.0 to £15.00 to swear to have drafted will be more even a house conveyancing solicitor can do it. If its not over complicated and long winded I can do it for you bit of course you cant swear it in front of me, well not without flight expense. If you check with whoever asked if they will accept that sworn in UK its is a legal document. and or the HMRC.. if they can I van get an email to you if Bob doesn’t mind and get the details to draft it for you you then want to make an appointment with a solicitor in SOT call and ask price first Assuming who has asked you for this is ok with that, it should do after all its unreasonable to get the colleague to go to the consulate or Australia. In the alternate ask HMRC they can go back 8 years I believe with proof of employment as the company had to say he was employed in their declaration and HMRC can then provide at no cost the proof it takes about 4 to 6 weeks to get and may even be as well as the affidavit

  • Kat August 1, 2016, 9:55 pm | Link

    Hi all

    I thought I would call upon the enormous wealth of knowledge available here!
    Has anyone out there managed to get a sponsored visa from a company or institution as a counsellor or psychotherapist? I am qualified (have MA in counselling) and experienced working with adults and children in university and school settings.

    I’d also be interested in hearing about people’s experiences working in Oz as a counsellor/psychotherapist.

    Many thanks,


    • BobinOz August 2, 2016, 5:20 pm | Link

      This isn’t something I know about, but you might like to visit my page called Getting a Job or a Sponsorship and have a look around.

      In particular, check the skills shortages lists to see if your occupation appears on any of them, that’s what I would do first. Good luck, Bob

    • Mark August 2, 2016, 8:29 pm | Link

      In schools through to universities mostly nigher years eg not Primary they have specialist well being staff. (primary its a teacher or two doubling) so pretty what, what you are I imagine or capable of doing, Id say every school high and University has a person or two. Its hard to get in public schools but you might try private ones there are many. The trouble is sometimes making a case for sponsorship is often more hassle than getting someone close in stature here and some training. The ‘jury is still out for me’ whether there is more problems here, though I am opting for they make more out of it. Slightly different area but an add running on radio at present is for sore throat cures and I had someone take 2 days off last week with a sore throat. back to other problems dont get me wrong thats not decrying your profession in anyway just dont be shocked by the lightweight problems. Plus the heavy ones . They are undoubtedly big to them but it just a different culture .

  • Anshu July 27, 2016, 4:22 am | Link

    Hi Bob,

    I have secured a job with S&P global in Collin street, victoria and my sponsorship is approved so just waiting for my application to also be approved. Any idea how long does it take to take for the visa application once nomination is approved.

    Secondly- i will need your help in looking for an apartment. I am a single woman wanting to stay alone in 1 bed room apartment and have a budget of max 300 per week. Which area around the office would you suggest. I am fine with 30 mins train/tram travelling.

    • BobinOz July 27, 2016, 5:05 pm | Link

      I don’t think there is any set time for these applications to be approved, but I do think that the applications with job sponsorships are quicker and are often sorted within two or three months if it is all straightforward.

      As for where to live, I will leave the locals to advise you on that one. Luck, Bob

      • Anshu July 27, 2016, 9:26 pm | Link

        I have submitted my application today through immi. Are you saying 2 to 3 months from submitting my application after nomination is approved? Its already been 3 months now from filing the nomination process on 20th May.

      • Anshu July 27, 2016, 9:30 pm | Link

        Hi Bob,
        Thank you for your reply. To be specific, i have submitted my application today after receiving the nomination approval. So are you saying it will take another 2 to 3 months
        after nomination is approved? Its already been 3 months now from filing the nomination process on 20th May.

    • Mark July 27, 2016, 8:15 pm | Link

      It think it also depends on what type of sponsored it is, either a Temporary Residence Transition stream or under the Direct Entry stream, the later generally speaking the visa applicant will need to obtain a positive skill assessment for the nominated job.
      As regards Standard & Poor they are not t far from Flinders street being the central station its a 3 minute walk or so depends how many coffee bars you stop off at. So the area is your choice head north for some space and generally cheaper rents Id say south and stay east side for the better beaches, you have many an area (some parts of St Kilda to avoid). Question though are you looking for beach cosmopolitan city cafes rural and is 300 dollars AU US or Sterling makes a massive difference. 300 may be a bit tight in Aussie dollars

      • Anshu July 27, 2016, 9:36 pm | Link

        Hi Mark,

        Thank you for your response. Its a temporary work visa subclass 457 that is sponsored. About the house, my preference is cosmopolitan cities or beach side which ever is economical. Budget is around 300 to 350 AUD. I am fine with 30 mins of tram or train travel. Please suggest which areas should i opt for.

        • willemijn July 27, 2016, 10:22 pm | Link

          Hi Anshu,

          You might want to check out Preston or Reservoir. It is a 30 minute train ride from Flinders street, North of the center. It is an area that has charm, but is a bit more affordable than the inner city.

          Good luck!

          • Anshu July 28, 2016, 3:37 am | Link

            Hi willemijn

            Many thanks for your help. I will definately keep these 2 places in my list of search.

        • Mark July 28, 2016, 12:12 pm | Link

          Yuo need ti find out which version they have submitted Eg your employer. No harm asking them after all are they going to want you to up sticks and move within a month or 3 so understand why youd like to know It can be a tedious process and as said dependant on how they have submitted it you may have other hurdles yet.
          As regards house a I have said in previous posts grab a map or better still two laptops and look on real estate ,com at things that fit your budget and move around on the map on other laptop.. As has been said you may be better looking north than south with your budget. 400 would make it all that bit easier but have a look what you can find Hopefully someone from LJ Hooker might pitch in with a few suggestions There are I believe quiet a lot of city apartments for rent but not sure what price is on them at all

  • Sid July 25, 2016, 6:46 pm | Link

    I am a student and new to Melbourne. My budget is around 200 pw. I have been suggested areas like St Kida, Carlton, Albert park. Any information would be appreciated.

    • Melbourne Rental Search July 26, 2016, 8:33 am | Link

      Hi Sid, These areas are lovely however $200pw will not be enough to lease a property on your own. You will need to rent a room in a share house

  • May Winters July 20, 2016, 4:23 am | Link

    Hi i’m think of moving from UK to Australia. I’ve got two children 13 and 10. We want to be close to the city but we don’t have to be in it. We want to be close to schools and a park as well as some beaches although thats not a necessity. Obviously we want somewhere really safe. Our budget is £1000,000-£1400,000.
    Thanks so much

    • Mark July 20, 2016, 7:19 am | Link

      Hi Im assuming as you have posted in the section on Melbourne that when you say move to Australia you have decided on Melbourne. Have you got visas and all under way or sorted? . Could you clarify the budget is that £1000 a week, a month or is it, to buy to rent or is it as it has 3 zeros 1million to 1.4 . Do you have any job to go to as part of your visa etc… If you read some of the recent posts that has discussed a lot of what you ask and grab a map that will help for now. If you could be more specific then we can all help narrow it down for you.
      Cheers mark

      • May Winters July 31, 2016, 6:02 am | Link

        I am a freelancer we have not applied for a visa yet we just want to view and see if we do like it there I think we’re buying and yes it’s 1million

      • May Winters July 31, 2016, 6:05 am | Link

        Yes it’s 1million. We have not yet got a visa as we are just looking. My husband is a freelancer and so am I. Thank you very much

        • Mark July 31, 2016, 9:43 am | Link

          Hi May You dont say freelance what but you may find unless your on the skill shortage list, basically wanted in Australia list you might find the visa needs looking at to allow you to buy and live here. Its a great place but id move sooner rather than later with your children that age it gives them chance to settle I hear so many moved at 16 and just between college etc and get in a bit of a mess, understandably That aside have a look down the Easter suburbs of Melbourne Brighton were we have lived is great a walk to the beach and a train ride to the CBD 30 minutes. Areas surrounding there are all great A park is a given most places as is schools. The latter is perhaps what you should concentrate on as you dont want a commute to school Alternatively for more peace and tranquillity look down the Mornington peninsular Mt Martha Mornington Mt Eliza some great schools easy access to CBD via train and freeway though 50 minutes (train from Frankston) more parks than you could want and beaches. its just case of city close Brighton and surrounds or the more peaceful south If you discount the beaches then of course there are many other places Narre Warren Berwick and surrounds but its a trek to be near a beach. Trust this helps for now

          • BobinOz August 1, 2016, 12:34 am | Link

            May, aside from Mark’s advice, I was wondering whether it might be worthwhile you looking into the possibility of getting some kind of holiday visa to visit Australia? These kinds of visas are easier to get, it’s usually not a problem to get a three or four weeks visa for a holiday, maybe even longer. That will give you and your family a chance to check out this country to see if it’s somewhere you might want to live on a more permanent basis.

            If you do happen to fall in love with it while you’re here, then you can start to get serious. Good luck, Bob

            • Mark August 1, 2016, 8:36 am | Link

              Yes as Bob says if you haven’t been pack the suitcase now whilst summer hols are here and board the plane have a look. Of course you can now take children out of school in UK without permission as was if they have good attendance. If you make it down the peninsular we can even show you around a bit. We were helped by strangers when we got here and its the Aussie way. We as quite a few do bit the bullet, upped sticks and left, me three 2/3 day visits to Sydney in my lifetime and my wife and children none. Now happier than ever. Of course if you freelance that involves electronic transfer items you can as i do still work in UK.

  • Sandra July 15, 2016, 3:32 am | Link

    Hi, we live in the uk currently but my husband has been offered a job in Melbourne, we are looking at the enormous amount of suburbs but a little baffled by the crime rates etc an where best to look at, we want to narrow down our search to about 10 places.
    We have 2 children 7 and 10 and a dog, so we want schools near and parks if possible. Also not too far from busses and trains.
    Our budget to buy is around 500-550k so wander if anyone has any recommendations of where to avoid or anywhere to consider.

    • Mark July 15, 2016, 8:22 am | Link

      The only response you would be best to get for now is where is the job based. As I have said in previous posts the whole point of coming to Australia is for a better lifetstyle, to have that ruined by a 1 or 2 hour commute will likely see you back on the plane. I guess roughly where is job and commute by car or ? That will narrow down the possibilites. Is you budget to buy without mortgage or with,(you would likely be able to get one here) Budget is a little limiting but not unachievable how many beds are you looking for ? eg guest as well or just three We left UK last year with similar aged children

      • Sandra July 25, 2016, 5:32 am | Link

        Hi he has a job in the CBD for Deloitte.
        We are Looking in point cook, Melton, derrimut so far? Any thoughts on those locations at all.

        • Mark July 25, 2016, 9:29 am | Link

          Hi Sandra Ok he works not far from my office I dont have to travel in daily… First off chat to Deloitte there will be other English staff there I feel sure. Derrimut I know little of, Melton decent place, lots of room, ticks your boxes, but like Derrimut and Point Cook there is another point ill make later and 2 reasons for avoiding PC So Point Cook as you wrote it first I am guessing its first choice in fact that was our ‘where to head for’ when we had watched wanted down under. We got here stayed in Brighton Then PC then Ocean Grove we much preferred the East side The commute over that bridges driving is a aaahhhh There are trains and there is even a new ferry from Wyndham harbor to CBD 45 ish minutes you can google it. We felt was the west side is mmmmmm not so much going on, a bit more industrial, actually a lot more, a bit duller then the East. and in summer google the Werribee smell We cant all live in the same place I accept but as your asking Id be more tempted to look at the East side. Get on Goole streetmap and drive down the freeway to point cook from City then go the other way but you not only have the freeway and eastlink you have the Nepean,Highway. So in saying that you’ll ask me where well look anywhere south of there you will see on a map train lines all leading to the CBD you can with some time and this is a tip for many Go on real estate .com find houses have a second laptop open or a map Google them have a look round street map then go for direction on google from xyz road to Bourke street you can pick car train bus of course many will have a combination of walk train You can also look for schools the website escapes me will try and remember it and this gives school rankings and population and ethnic diversity in the area and so on. Im not suggesting you find your house rent or buy but at least an area or two. Anyway we decided Point cook was not for us and so spending twice as much as we planned but small mortgage we went on the East side. The 2 main reasons for this as I said id come back to was the commute across the bridges through the city whcih applies t all three however you do it its a pain I felt. Many do and many complain , I have two colleagues in PC well one close by and both are trying to move over the East… google this exact phrase …news lack of infrastructure in point cook…. you will read lots. thats my main reason for avoiding It will get sorted but why be the guinea pigs. Hope this helps for now .

    • Willemijn July 16, 2016, 10:13 pm | Link

      Hi Sandra,

      We moved to Melbourne a year ago with our 2 children (8 and 10) and are all loving it here. There are many great places to live and there are lots of parks in many places. We considered different area’s mostly within 30 train minutes from the CBD. House prices are very high in Melbourne. Many are sold through auction, so selling prices are not even published. To get an idea of the selling prices go to I wrote a blog post about our search for a place to live, which might be interesting for you to read. Feel free to visit:

      Good luck!

    • David July 17, 2016, 12:50 am | Link

      What is the location (suburb) of the job your husband has been offered? It is too difficult to compose a response without knowing that information.

  • Wally July 14, 2016, 2:10 pm | Link

    Hi,I am thinking of moving down to Melbourne sometime down the track, I interested to work for the age or another news paper firm. I like St Kilda, but it’s quite pricey as I have been told, and looking on the internet, they have a lot places on there which my budget may not afford. Is Brunswick another place I had in mind, I’m not sure on the prices for renting a unit or house, would like to be close to the city, and public transport. Any ideas?

    • Melbourne Rental Search July 14, 2016, 3:10 pm | Link

      What is your budget (price per week, that you have allowed for rent) Wally? How many bedrooms do you need, we may be able to suggest a few areas 🙂

  • rachel July 8, 2016, 3:46 pm | Link

    Hello! Just wondering if anyone knows how to access forum/communities of UK junior doctors who have moved to and settled in Australia? I have been scouring the net for more info but found no online groups I can tap into? Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks!

    • Mark July 8, 2016, 8:54 pm | Link

      Hi Rachel I’m not sure such a thing exists eg docsdownunder or medicsmigrating There you go a new small buiness venture for someone (see me for copyright lol) Alternatively someone will be along shortly to correct me. I’ve kind of stayed with this site as I like Bob’s outlook on things,,way of writing etc etc. Sadly only discovered it after getting here. My brother in law however is now a consultant (gas and air man) to use his unofficial job description. Anaesthetist otherwise He came out before us 2005 Not sure what he was then more SHO or something. He has gone back since though. l l believe he intends to return He never really found any more help than people mentioning it in non specific forums, In fact he got more advice from colleagues (quietly as in not upsetting management) at the hospital where he then worked as several had been or had friends in Aus You might be better of just asking the questions you have as a lot of medical staff of all derivatives use all the sites including I am sure this one. As I say hope someonoe comes along with a perfect answer but dont hold your breath (pardon pun) Occupation aside its worth doing it. It doesn suit all but if your prepared to embrace it. Give it a go. Cheers Mark

  • Emma Pottenger July 4, 2016, 2:09 am | Link

    My family is going on a sabbatical trip from August to next July, and for the first three months (August- November) we are planning to be in Melbourne, although we don’t know what part. The group is my brother and I (both 18) and my parents (late 50’s). While we are not club people, we would like to be near somewhat of a downtown where there are museums and restaurants etc, or at least close enough that we could bike or take public transport. We also would like to be close to nature, not necessarily the beach but we love to hike and visit parks.
    A 2 bedroom apartment would probably be as small as we could feasibly go.

    If you have any suggestions about which part of Melbourne would be good for us, we would really appreciate it!



    • Mark July 4, 2016, 11:22 am | Link

      Hi Emma If you see my reply to moving to Oz below around 29th June some of that is applicable to you. The restaurants are everywhere though of course the more rural you get the less of them, There is wildlife about but like any, some venture into closer suburbs My colleague has an annoying possum and he’s in Brighton but truth is if you really want the wildlife and hiking you would have to move further out and trains to the museums. There are parks everywhere but I’m assuming you are looking for the bigger parks wildlife style, e.g. you won’t necessarily find koalas but birds at least Id personally look down the Mornington peninsular now that has its restaurants. and has its wildlife areas in fact the lower you go the more you find but with the exception of the odd museum to history which is an hour stay e.g. the old post office coaching inn type place the main museums are the other way, benefit of beaches I know not important I’m not sure what you asking can be achieved Hopefully someone else will come up with somewhere

    • Maria Dean July 11, 2016, 11:26 pm | Link

      Try Airbnb’s. Search for places in Sth Melbourne, St Kilda, St Kilda East. All close to the city, museums and Botanical gardens and parks. From city you can easily go anywhere else as all tains and trams radiate out from the city. On the other side of the city there is less congestion and some green belts in the western suburbs but not much in the way of museums. North Melb is also a convenient suburb and not too pricey.

  • Tya July 1, 2016, 4:50 pm | Link

    Hi,, i am a Veterinarian and also a Vet Pathologist. I’m looking for a suitable city in Australia regarding to my educational background. Please notify me for your recommendations. Thanks!

  • Amanda July 1, 2016, 3:58 am | Link

    Hi I am 23 years of age and I am looking to move to Australia with my two young children 4/7, I am lost when it comes to were to start where to look what part of Australia to move to. I am a fully qualified gym instructor + diet and nutritionist would my qualifications be recognised over there? I see most of the houses are between 350-400pw is there help you can get until your up and running ?would love some direction as I am lost thank you 😀

    • mark July 1, 2016, 2:18 pm | Link

      Hi Amanda I’m guessing your only just starting out on this quest. First of all you need to find out what your qualifications are worth here and are they accepted without gaining anymore. That may also define your choice of where to live. Australia is made up of self-governing states that can set their own rules on some things like this so for example you may find your qualifications OK and one of the states is actively seeking your type of work. Id email Migration agent saying what you have and asking are they enough. Or alternatively look on the Australian governments website for careers wanted. Its sometimes not just a case of having the UK qualification its whether Australia are short of them. As regards open choice. We had that but elected for Melbourne as it’s been voted most liveable city in the world several times. Most head for Sydney being the perceived hub of Australia. Cairns and Darwin are well suited for weather. Brisbane is another lovely place. Meanwhile Perth and Adelaide are again home to many brits. I personally find them too quiet. You have a long path to go down but well worth it. Especially in the current mess UK PLC is in. Heaven forbid they elect Gove. Good Luck with it

  • MovingtoOz June 29, 2016, 6:31 pm | Link

    Hi Folks,

    I’m moving to Melbourne soon, working somewhere in the Southbank. My wife will still be looking for employment (she would like to continue teaching preschool), so she will probably want an area that is somewhat lively and close to amenities. Also, something close to a park, the riverside, or the beach would be great. I personally prefer to ride my bike to work or take public transport.

    Would you have any advice regarding where we should look for a place? We would like to keep the price within $350 pw.

    • Mark July 1, 2016, 12:53 pm | Link

      I’m assuming you’d prefer a house There is it seems quite a lot of apartments up for rent at present. I’m not that familiar with Southbank residence but anywhere out to the east of there is pretty good Have a look on real estate .com au for rental properties that may fit as in house style. Much depends on your happy commute distance e.g. you could stay close to the Water anywhere down the east coast side perhaps even as far as Patterson lakes as the trains into CBD are pretty regular and quick enough. Of course the further down you are with some exception the easier it is to find a place (more areas) There are lots of parks wherever you are. Again more range of preschools away from the central part of the city. Have a look at train timetables and distance form Where you are working to areas and a possible rental property you may find All you do is type distance from X to Y in on google and then click on direction and it give you the option of car bus train walk etc of course many are combined. Hope this helps for now

      • MovingtoOz July 1, 2016, 1:24 pm | Link

        Very helpful, Mark! Patterson Lakes looks good, but seems a little to far for me. I’m thinking a leisurely bike ride would be ideal, but I’m not totally against taking public transport or driving. I do want to keep the commute to 30 mins or less.

        I’m looking at St Kilda right now for a 1-br apartment, but it seems I have to stretch my budget a bit and consider paying up to $450. St Kilda looks great because of the botanical gardens, the beach, and of course Albert Park. Also, it’s pretty close to work on SouthBank. Any advice about life in St. Kilda, maybe places to avoid or pursue? Are there other suburbs that have a similar feel?

        • Mark July 1, 2016, 2:33 pm | Link

          Hi Im assuming no children then OK makes a difference, Couple of bits of St Kilda may be worth avoiding a quick google will show you where and why though it is only internet and I obviously as the old gag goes don’t speak from experience. If you also google St Kilda and map wise look at the train line down to Brighton Sandringham its about 15 minutes from Brighton North where I park to Flinders Street so anywhere around there. You can have a look for houses Prahran Balaclava Ripponlea Elsternwick it’s a quite big area Brighton can be pricey. You can see the train line if you zoom in it zig zags from Beach Road from Sandringham. Id avoid the west and north of Southbank because of the cross city traffic. I frequently have to get to Dockland’s and from colleague’s there the east and what’s called Bay side is the beter place to be commute wise as well.

  • Jessie June 18, 2016, 6:49 pm | Link

    Hi everybody.
    Maybe you could help me with this qualification question. I have an Irish Fetac level 6 in early years education and was wondering what the equivalent is in Oz?
    I’ve been trying to Google it without success. Also are there any jobs available in that area?
    We are only playing with the thoughts of emigrating as we have 2 children and my partner is a carpenter & joiner and I heard that australia is doing away with the skilled visas coming September. If anyone knows anymore do let me know 😊
    Oh btw I’m jessie, 30, german but living in ireland with my irish partner and kids who are 5 & 8. Hope you’re all well and enjoying the ozzie lifestyle. X

    • Mark June 18, 2016, 8:03 pm | Link

      Cant help with some of the stuff you ask but ACECQA is the body that will tell you copied from there website. its a

      If you obtained your qualification outside Australia, it is likely that it will not appear on one of the approved qualifications lists. In this instance, you may apply to ACECQA to have your qualifications assessed. ACECQA will determine if your qualifications are equivalent to an approved qualification in Australia.
      If you need help contact ACECQA.
      Note: Some international qualifications are approved in QLD. If you wish to work in QLD, you should check if your qualification appears on the list of approved qualifications for QLD.

      • Jessie June 18, 2016, 8:40 pm | Link

        Thanks Mark that’s great. I’ll look that up. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

  • Ana June 18, 2016, 2:39 am | Link

    We just got our PR and will be moving to melbourne next year. We are planning on living in the west as most of our family is already living there with some family in the east aswell. We have a son, 2 years old so i would like to move to a place which has excellent schools. Which are would you all recommend in east/west. Budget is not very high $350-$450 as only hu by will be working and im a stay at home parent.
    Also i am a software engineer and would like to go back to work so how are the day care centres. Prices wise.

    • Mark June 18, 2016, 7:02 pm | Link

      There’s a website care for kids com au that has a child care costs guide if that helps. I’m not sure we did things the correct way but my wife was lucky to secure a job before we left so it aimed us in a driving commute area. I get to work from home and Docklands. My wife’s commute though the furthest away than all her colleagues is actually quicker than 75 % of them. That might be the key to guide you e.g. where you or hubby may find work. We had a lovely house pool etc. lent on the west side but the commute was ahhhhhh !!!! Imagine you end up with a job in say Dandenong and living in Point Cook then you may be back to Blighty sooner than imagined. Have a look at jobs areas and also styles of properties. Looking at it there are lots of properties west side cheaper than east in general but if you have to commute the Westgate or The Bolte or surrounding roads then the journey gets slower, after all your likely moving to Aus for a better life… Id include the commute. Is 350 450 a weekly rental or purchase. Whichever way you are probably not renting or buying till you get here. There’s nothing stopping you securing a job before getting here though of course that may then put other items in the equation e.g. have to leave sooner. Have a look at real .au for houses renting or buying and you can at least get an idea of the suburbs as well. Before we came we had watched the down under stuff even found a house we liked cracking place $760+ buy. We spoke with agent, we had a video tour and all and were getting close to agreeing a price. Then my wife’s job offer came in and we decided to look on the East side, a very similar house cost us nearly half again but had we not moved our area we would likely not have survived the commute. I remember reading on here during rush hour the West to East is arguably a non starter. Heck there is even a new ferry started from the west, Wyndham Harbour to Docklands. its 50 minutes… and that’s quicker than by car. Hope this helps for now

  • KerryMac June 4, 2016, 9:44 pm | Link

    Hi, I hope someone can help me with choosing a great suburb for myself and my family (husband and 2 primary aged children). I have a job in a hospital in Parkville starting in July this year. Ideally we want to have 1 car so I’ll be training/cycling in, working shift work with the earliest shift at 7:45am. As I’ll be leaving work sometimes at 10pm I don’t want to live too far, maximum 25/30 mins. We’ll be renting, Max budget €650 a week, hopefully lower, until my husband finds work, for a 3 bed house. Looking at Moonee ponds and Yarraville area as they seem to have good primary schools. We don’t want full on suburbia, it would be nice to have a stroll to a coffee shop/restaurant. Any other suggestions on areas? thank you for your help!

    • David June 5, 2016, 10:53 am | Link

      Hi KerryMac,
      Moonee Ponds relative to Yarraville would be the most convenient and direct for getting to work by public transport as Moonee Ponds is on a tram route that passes the Royal Children’s Hospital, the Royal Women’s Hospital and the Royal Melbourne Hospital. You could get to work by public transport from Yarraville, but it would involve train and tram. I’ve seen many cafes and restaurants as well as parkland on the rare occasions I have been in the Moonee Ponds area. Public transport website:
      Tram network map:
      I don’t know how either suburb suits your budget, though. Essendon and Strathmore are also nice suburbs, next ones out from Moonee Ponds (and on the Broadmeadows railway line), and very nice, though as with Moonee Ponds, I don’t know anything about the cost of renting houses there.

      • KerryMac June 5, 2016, 6:07 pm | Link

        Thank you David, I will check out Essendon and Strathmore also. Thank you also Mark. Sorry I was on my phone on a long car journey yesterday without my glasses hence the Euro sign and not the Dollar sign! I’m English – we will be receiving a rental income from the UK so our total budget is about $650-700 a week and ideally we wanted a house rather than apartment (we’ve done the apartment living before with children and I’d rather open doors and release them out the back!). We will need to keep our UK house as we’re only going over on 457 visa’s and until/if we can get PR then we’ll keep hold of a house!. We will want to buy, though as soon as we do get PR – our budget will be about $750K.

        Interesting to hear about the school stats. At this point, without seeing the schools, it’s so hard to determine which are good schools apart from using those comparison sites. Our children (6 and 9yrs) will be going to state primary schools. My brother lives in Melbourne (Box Hill North), his extended family live in North Balwyn and I have a very good friend living in Yarraville (which I do like) with a family (hence looking at that area as she assures me that Wembley Primary is a really good school and we have children the same age… My brother’s children go to private schools and after staying at his for a month in December (before contemplating the move or getting the job, so not checking out suburbs!), his area was a bit too suburbian for me! A 2 mile hike to the park in 40 degree heat and not passing a shop on the way! I’ll bring mortgage statements with me, ID etc. I can use my brother’s address – I have set up a bank account but just need to show them ID to activate it, same with the licence. We was going to rent an airbnb place on arrival and hunt area’s etc. Borrow my brother’s car for a couple of weeks before getting our own. We’re hoping my husband will be able to pick up work also – he’s a Paramedic. Victoria Ambulance aren’t currently recruiting but he may have some casual event work. Thanks very much for your help and any other top tips gratefully received!

        • Mark June 5, 2016, 9:32 pm | Link

          Sorry about the confusion with the $£€ then. I thought id reply …No you are far better with House than apt I meant it’s an oversupply of apartments so there has to be a knock on effect eg more want CBD apartments but of course that frees up houses. Have a look on real estate. Lindsey my wife has offered to check out the schools for you as she knows that many teachers now it’s amazing. So if you find a few let us now, there is nothing like a visit though. We can ask about Wembley for you. Airbnb is good also try stayz and anywhere else but use the trick with the relators or ask you brother if he will do some viewings for you eg you could apply form the UK as its likely when you get here its late winter so not full of tourist renting everything in sight but many rental properties come up with like 4 weeks before available so other could look give you a good feeling but again there is nothing like looking yourselves. Your budget will be fine for what your after many of the 400 450 properties get snapped up not because they are no good just cheaper. HOWEVER done in bold for impact Don’t try and wing it eg that will do as if your rent something on the basis its just somewhere to out our heads it won’t help if you are having a struggling day being here They will happen so the happier you are in a rental house the better
          As I say happy to get the word on the schools My wife is a teacher at a private school one of the more popular ones and its amazing we would never have sent our children to the state school we did send them to as on paper (eg internet ) it did not look good whereas in reality they love it there and it’s a whole new way of life for them far far better. I have been chatting with Bob as in Bob is OZ about education is so much better here. The children are actually allowed to do an experiment here instead of teacher showing them on paper what will happen. Our two are absolutely loving it. At a school, we were very unsure of even the uniform was Australian green but its grown on us heck I’m even vice president of the PTA now after turning u to the AGM with 30 others we had a chat and out of the blue three or four nominated me … Ours are 7and 10 and don’t be frightened if you have a high achieving child particularly your younger one of asking they go in the year above not a great idea with the older one’s they will be sooner at high school (splitting them up )n . You will be aware its 4 terms here quite long but longer holidays. Private schools are great but some state schools are as good . As PS dont be suprised of offers of help from stangers its perhaps the Aussie way even me on here, We were helped by complete strangers when we got here and this is my way of saying thank you to them in helping others We all come here for a better life and that includes helping others. When you get sorted come and look at whats nicknamed mini pohm land… Mornington Penisular way Mornington Main street is just nearly perfect.

          • KerryMac June 6, 2016, 6:31 am | Link

            Wow, thank you Mark and please thank your wife for me also, that is very kind of you both. I think we took a look at Moonee Ponds West, Moonee Ponds Primary, Essendon Primary, Yarraville West and Wembley but I will check out other schools on the tram/train line. It’s a shame but given I will be the solitary earner initially, and that we’re both healthcare professionals, we’ll never earn the big bucks so private school will be out (although I appreciate they’re not as expensive as UK private schools). I have one child (boy aged 9) who is bright but has his head in the clouds but is very sporty. And the girl (aged 6) who I guess is quite advanced for her age (but most girls I guess are!) – they currently both go to the best schools in our area (Poole, Dorset) so it would be a real shame if they can’t get the same standard of education out there. My daughter really wouldn’t suit going into a class where they are just learning phonics when she is a fluent reader and writer. I believe they will now end up being the youngest in their years (both born in March) but I’m sure they’ll slot into whatever year they go in. By the way I absolutely LOVE the Mornington Penisula and ate at that pizza place in Mornington when I was there in December. I popped into a friends in Mount Eliza and what great views she had! I would love to buy in the penisular eventually. Thanks again for your very informative help!

            • Mark June 6, 2016, 12:42 pm | Link

              No worries as they say it’s a way of saying thank you to those that helped us out here. I’m not a great believer in some higher being sort but I do believe people are there to help others at times if you get my drift. We will look at the schools for you, you mentioned. My wife says she would be tempted to put the girl into year 2 She will be finishing year one in UK and UK are ahead at primary age no two ways about that but trust me it soon goes downhill at year 5 6 and onto secondary where Australia catch up and surpass and moreover the children are happier Don’t be scared by the high numbers on role either She will be finishing year one and coming into year two if she stayed so going into year two she has another 4 5 months in year two only before beginning year three year three that much be scary bit the alternative is back into year 1 for another 5 months………Not perhaps the best … That may make it harder for her of course you don’t want her in year two and then going to three and the school saying she is not ready as she has just made a new set of friends and now faces upheaval again on top of the move from UK friends Go with year two on arrival and from now thill then and whilst hubby is not working here pick the kids up and read and do maths and anything she is lacking in her higher class. This is what we did. Your little guy maybe the same but he will like his sister at school for a year or two and its easier for the drop and collect whilst you find your feet if he goes into year 4 for some consolidation of it wont harm or is needed he will soon be in year 5 in January The alternative is of course year 5 when here then yr 6 January by 2017 he will be finished primary Go to the school in UK before leaving look what work he is doing bring his maths and literature book and both their reports That’s as high on the list as packing camera and then look here at what he will do in year 4 My son was 10 in December so not a major difference he’s in year 5 now as he was in UK but we wanted him to be above the others there is a reason for that….look most of the help on here is public so it helps others but if you want or husband to email me at gg51won at aol dot com Ill explain another mmmmn trick is not the right word but clever thing to do. I’m sure your husband will find work I was lucky and still work for my UK Company, out here not enough to do hence writing this but it’s getting there and you two are in a popular and trusted and respected profession I’m usually greeted with a short silence while folks work out what to say in my disliked profession.

        • David June 21, 2016, 2:32 pm | Link

          Hi KerryMac, As you mentioned Ambulance Victoria, presumably you were checking their website, but in case you were informed by another source that they weren’t recruiting, here it is so you can check in future:

          • KerryMac June 21, 2016, 3:14 pm | Link

            Thanks David,
            Yes my husband had checked and was also informed they weren’t recruiting so we appreciate the heads up! Hopefully they will accept his application with Visa pending/UK Paramedic degree/UK drivers licence for now…. He has emailed them in the past and they advised him to apply once applications open again so fingers crossed! If he doesn’t get a job with them then our chances of remaining in Oz are slim so we have a lot riding on this! Thanks again.

          • KerryMac June 25, 2016, 4:47 am | Link

            Hi David, My husband has been in contact with them and has been informed that they would not recruit a UK paramedic unless they have Permanent Residency – we are going on my 457 visa. This throws a massive spanner in the works as he needs to get a job……

    • Mark June 5, 2016, 11:38 am | Link

      David has answered your question pretty well on area. Parkville itself is an upcoming area in Melbourne’s best areas to live though as well. Don’t put too much faith on internet data on schools here My wife’s a teacher and has found some of it drastically out of date. Even it may show 2015 it’s not a true reflection. Our children went to a school that was not that well ranked but after speaking with many teachers here in private schools the school was far higher than thought, even the number on role was 450 yet it was actually 630 so way out of date.
      That a decent budget Im guessing your in Eire with the € symbol or France and type darn good English €650 is a decent $1000 dollars and should be way over what you will need unless it was 650 dollars but even then you will be fine There is it seems listening to the radio an oversupply of rental in the rental market Lots of apartments so not necessarily for houses but it has a knock on effect. Make sure you have copies of all you ID before you come or buy and buy a printer here first job well after buying sat nav to find where the printer is and then wherever you are staying you need an address Some workplaces will let you use three’s the hospitals usually wont If you have a friend here use there’s that way you can then get a driving license and then you have Australian ID for a rental property. It’s a bit hit and miss getting one see willemijn post on renting though my comments about you can submit as many application as you want. That is perhaps the biggest hurdle getting rental There is place on ebay even will let you have an address in Melbourne for little cost and then once you have you property you change it all to your new address if you can’t find it message me As another example make sure you get a bank account before you get here Go on NAB site National bank of Australia and apply for an account before you get here its easy just pick a branch Parkville say and then when you get here go and finish off opening the account It’s a whole lot easier than doing it when here Then all of a sudden you now have bank iD and a driving licence ID a rental is much easier Have a look on realestate au for properties now You have to get the real estate agent as a friend aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh but then when you submit your application hey presto out of the twenty applications yours is the one accepted. We were lucky as we were buying as well so thats a clever way. We had 1.5 million to spend but could not find the house so said we wanted to rent something to the same agent in the meantime. We soon got accepted for one of their rentals and inundated with properties for sale since bought We even said we only wanted six month rental and they moved that as they could see dollar signs for a sale All of a sudden we had the entire office as friends it seemed Even if your not buying it’s a clever way We found mortgage brokers mortgage etc all very easy to do (yes we spent more than intended but with salaries here)
      Cheers Mark

    • Rebecca Milić June 12, 2016, 12:12 pm | Link

      Hello, and welcome!
      I live on the east side of Melbourne in a beautiful suburbs of Templestowe I am about 13mins driving to the CBD, Ideally you should try looking at places like Carlton, Carlton North, Brunswick, Flemmington they are still in the heart of cafe life and where you can grab dinner at anytime, specially those ‘all day breakfasts’. I wish you luck and again welcome
      To Melbourne

      • KerryMac June 12, 2016, 5:04 pm | Link

        Thank you for your advice Rebecca. I have looked at those areas and unfortunately Carlton is out of our price range. We have considered Brunswick but a lot of their before school clubs didn’t start until 7:30am and we need 7am! I was previously told Flemington/Kensington could be a little ‘iffy’ but please feel free to enlighten me if I’m incorrect!

  • Georgios Orfaniotis May 28, 2016, 8:18 pm | Link

    Hi everyone!

    Me and my finance are moving to Melbourne this August for a year. Super excited! I am going to be working at the Royal Melbourne hospital (Parkville), and my other half will be at the Dandenong hospital. The distance between the 2 sites is about 40K, and we are looking for a nice area to rent in between. Ideally an area closer to the centre but with easy access to a motorway for the commute to Dandenong. We have no kids and we would like a area that has a neighbourhood feel, for young professional with some local restaurants/bars. Any suggestions would be hugely appreciated! Thank you.

    • Mark May 28, 2016, 8:37 pm | Link

      Many of the areas West of Dandening will tick boxes for you Id perhaps look at the trains for a ciommute to Parkville and there are a few lines on the east side. Brighton and down Chelthenham are areas to explore There as lot of apartments to rent at present as there is a bit of an over supply it seems. The further diwn you go on the East Suburbs the easier to get To Dandenong by car. Dandenon is at times the trading capital of Australia theres not much you cant buy there Furniture to boomerangs and well anything Its a very very multicultural place. Staying left of or west of the M3 MI presents many places.

      • Mark May 29, 2016, 9:44 am | Link

        My apologies for my non correction of the spelling in my post above but was typing with a burnt finger or two, grill pan hotter than thought for kitchen towel OUCH (didn’t do the hospital) I could have let you know the travel time at that hour. Anyway of too Ikea today for some industrial strength oven gloves. My sincere apologies as I hit the wrong button before spell checking. Thank you all for not criticising, at least the content is there. .

        • Georgios May 30, 2016, 7:56 pm | Link

          Thanks Mark

    • David May 29, 2016, 9:17 am | Link

      Hi Georgios,
      As Mark commented, consider Brighton and Cheltenham areas, but the suburbs of Ashburton, Glen Iris or Malvern may also suit your needs regarding a locality somewhere in between quite admirably but I can’t comment if they’ll meet your requirements as to a neighbourhood feel for young professionals. The suburbs would be approximately mid-way geographically between Dandenong and Parkville, but in peak hour the travelling time by road to Parkville will be disproportionately greater. The Monash Freeway runs through Glen Iris and Malvern and is close to Ashburton and will take you close to Dandenong. It is probably a moot point, given you mention commuting to Dandenong Hospital by car, but the hospital is not near the Pakenham railway line; buses would be the order of the day from Dandenong Railway Station if using public transport. From the public transport perspective, Glen Iris and East Malvern are on the Glen Waverley railway line and Ashburton is on the Alamein railway line. Malvern is on the Pakenham railway line, getting to Parkville by tram from Flinders St. Station in the CBD would be easy. There are also tram lines from Malvern and Glen Iris to the CBD. All three suburbs have parkland.

      • Georgios May 30, 2016, 7:57 pm | Link

        That’s great David, thanks.

    • Melbourne Rental Search June 3, 2016, 4:12 pm | Link

      Hi Georgios,
      That is brilliant news – how exciting! There are a number of lovely areas that meet your requirements, however it would be beneficial to know a little bit more about you, before recommending a suitable suburb.
      – Do you have a preference between a house, townhouse or apartment?
      – What is your budget that you would like to spend on rent per week?
      -Is it important for you to be close to the beach, or do you enjoy more of an inner city vibe?
      Your welcome to give me a buzz and I can certainly have a more detailed chat to you, to determine what area would be ideal for you. Or alternatively simply leave a comment and I’ll do some research for you. Have a brilliant weekend!

  • Willemijn May 27, 2016, 4:43 pm | Link

    Good luck to everyone who is planning to move to Melbourne. It is a great place to live and I love it that we have seasons here. We moved almost a year ago and wrote a blog post about our search, which you might find handy (even if you are not moving with children):

    • Mark May 27, 2016, 5:12 pm | Link

      Hi Willemijn

      Just been reading your write up and its great, all the help anyone can give or get is great but can I ask you to look at what you have written as you have some factual inaccuracies and I’d hate folk to continue with them e.g. under the wrong impression You wrote “It is required by law that you have viewed the house before renting” That’s incorrect Yes someone needs to attend and view but it can even be an agent for you especially if you are not in the country. They can also submit paperwork for you. There are even companies that do this whilst you are say in UK and they just call the AUS agent normally don’t even view it. eg they find you a property.

      Secondly you also write lower down you can only submit one application at once Again this is not correct at all and most certainly in Victoria It might be with say one agent or many agents may adopt this policy but legally you can submit as many as you can fill in. If yiu have someone telling you different ask then to show you the text of the law. (they may take some time) There is nothing stopping you handing two or twenty applications in. Legally you could apply for 20 or 50 (time would not allow but you get my drift ) properties and be accepted for all of them You can then turn all down but one Once you have paid your monthly rent then you are in the contract and only then. I do speak with a bit of knowledge on the law

      Have a great day.

      • Willemijn June 7, 2016, 12:11 pm | Link

        Hi Mark,
        Thanks for letting us know! I have updated our blog post.

        • Mark June 7, 2016, 2:19 pm | Link

          No worries as they say .. some property agents seem to try and work by, well any made up rule they can conjure up if needed. I suspect yours only wanted one application at once. No wonder they are voted low on the rankings of trusted proffessions. Cheers Mark

          • Lee June 7, 2016, 4:15 pm | Link

            Or she may just have an innocent mistake for which she has apologised and corrected. Not all of your own posts as factually correct Mark, in fact you told someone the completely incorrect advice the other day. Nobody jumped down your throat.

            • mark williams June 7, 2016, 6:23 pm | Link

              As I said no worries in the message Not siure where you get I jumped down her throat from this forum is not about having a go at others I certainly was not I was merely pointing out things that werent correct they were changed end of the matter I dont think for one minute it was the ladies faukt she was just wirting what she had been told im sure I even thanked her for it after all it was not her mistake it was the realators As i say this place is about helping others. If i have made a mistake tell me what it is Id hate to have made a mistake. Cjeers Mark

              • BobinOz June 7, 2016, 11:59 pm | Link

                No, you haven’t made a mistake Mark, I think you were very polite with the manner in which you pointed out those discrepancies and I am sure you only did that to make sure nobody got misled. The original poster certainly took it in good spirits as well. As you say, these forums are all about helping people and you are clearly doing that.

                Lee, just for the record, Mark has made 15 comments so far on this website in a quite short period of time, all of them have been extremely helpful to my other readers. As far as I’m aware, you have only made one comment, and that was the one above having a dig.

                That’s not how we roll here, just so that you know. If you do decide to comment again, please try and add something to the conversation rather than detract from it.

  • sarathchandra May 23, 2016, 7:23 pm | Link

    While going though your web,I found your MARA agent team & send a assessment fee as mentioned the system by now. My plan to migrating a Australia with my family within one year,& during I can upgrade my points to eligible the migrating system. Hope MARA constants help me.


    • BobinOz May 24, 2016, 4:41 pm | Link

      Yes, my MARA agent will certainly be able to guide you. Good luck, Bob

  • Jack Stanley May 23, 2016, 6:00 am | Link

    Hi Bob.

    Thank you for such an informative and detailed website. I’m looking at emigrating from the UK with my wife in late 2018 and have been looking through your website a lot. Really great stuff and extremely helpful.

    I’ve got a specific question about Victoria which you or others may be able to help with.

    We’re planning on arriving in Australia sometime mid-2019. We’re going to go travelling for a few months first on the way. We’re looking at Melbourne or surrounding area as a place to settle because of the cooler climate, vibrancy and culture of the city and all the sport etc.

    Would you say it would make most sense to arrive in Melbourne and just stay in a cheap hostel for a while while we visit some estate agents etc, look around the suburbs and try to find somewhere to rent in the longer term? Or try to secure a rental property before we arrive? We will be in other parts of Australia before arriving at Melbourne and have set bank accounts etc up. We’ll be on a 189 visa and will both be looking for work (social work and teaching) when we settle and stop travelling as well.

    Just for some context, we’ll be 32 and 29 without children (yet). We won’t have a massive budget but will have some cash in reserve incase we can’t find jobs straight away. Will hopefully have enough money to get a car and the bulk of a deposit to buy a house as well.

    Can anyone suggest any nice suburbs or other areas of Victoria? We really aren’t fussed about being that close to the Melbourne CBD as long as we can get there by public transport.

    Thanks again for the great website.



    • Melbourne Rental Search May 23, 2016, 1:07 pm | Link

      Hi Jack,
      It is so exciting to hear that you are moving to Melbourne – You are going to love it!! It is a good idea to start to get your ‘feelers’ out there, and chatting to people about your move whilst you still have plenty of time up your sleeve, The first answer to your question is somewhat simple. You will not be able to secure a rental property from our overseas location unless you can have somebody inspect the property on your behalf. This is a general rule that real-estate agents here in Melbourne tent to have. We have a business here in Melbourne that help people like you to secure a rental property by inspecting rental properties on your behalf, sending a YouTube video walk through tour of the property and negotiating with real-estate agents to get your application approved. Alternatively you could absolutely stay in a hotel/air bnb whilst you search for a rental property, however this can end up being quite expensive depending on how long the search takes. When we are looking to secure a rental property for a client we allow at least 28days.
      The area in which you decide you would like to reside is dependant on a number of factors:
      – How long are you willing to travel each day to get to work?
      – Are you going to drive or do you need public transport to be readily available?
      – Is it important to be near the beach? Nightlife? Good Restaurants?
      – Do you prefer an inner city apartment lifestyle or would you prefer a house/unit with a back garden?
      If you could give us a better idea, of what it is that appeals to you in an area, than we can certainly help steer you in the right direction.
      Have a brilliant day 🙂

    • Mark May 23, 2016, 1:44 pm | Link

      Hi Jack

      Wow your forward planning 2018/9. You can try and secure a property before you arrive there are some outfits that do that but they charger quite a bit for the privilege. Id avoid the CBD, personal opinion of course. Look as far down the eastern suburbs as Dromana though the public transport gets tougher from Frankston Eg bus so drive up to one of the stations and park and take the train to the CBD. Down in the Mornington peninsular it’s also known as mini pohm land but still truly Australian. You need an address to get a driving license and you need a driving license to rent a property so if you have a friend or someone to use their address or even work one if you get a job, also try house sitting sites closer the time, for rentals you always have to have seen it really or an agent for you so it can be difficult to rent or sometimes there is an abundance of rentals or the same 15 people after one or two depends on timing, time of year etc but bear in mind you are then likely committed to that area for 12 months so do your research now and even apply for jobs classer the time from Uk Getting one as a teacher in a public school you’ll probably need to be here, no idea social work but t doesn’t stop you applying but as I say closer the time I employ people and would not want an application 2 years hence. I think you have plenty time to drive round on google looking or even come on a holiday first. Try a holiday park The problem with hostel accommodation if it puts you off Eg look for something your both happy with, getting the wrong accommodation can put you off a place. Everyoe will be really helpful We fouud that and as such I know try and help other in a way of saying tahnk you to those that helped us but we did it a bit quicker Visa 29th of one month month or so selling up sold and gine 15th of follwing month some 46 days with two jobs in hand as we left UK No wonder teacehrs re leving when you read about the comedian ruiing OFSTED in the link below (I’ll handle the libel suit Bob)… Good luck Mark

    • David May 29, 2016, 9:26 am | Link

      Hi Jack,
      You might find my reply to Georgios‘ enquiry useful reading. It also depends on whether you want to live in a rural area or prefer Melbourne’s suburbs.

      Cooler? Yes, perhaps compared to Alice Springs or Broome or (inland) country Victoria, but keep in mind Melbourne does have very hot days in summer, with temperatures 40 or higher, though days with temperatures that high are generally few and far between. Be mindful that you can expect many days in the 30’s but Melbourne is fortunate that heatwaves usually only last 4 or so days with a respite of temperatures in the 20s before the next heatwave (and the respites usually- but not always!- last longer than the heatwaves).


  • Youssef May 16, 2016, 12:09 am | Link

    Hello All, we are moving to Melbourne by July from whitsundays Qld, we are looking for an apartment but a short walkind distance to or from Russel street and Bourke street, we have 2 kids what area do you advice that we look at please? Thank you

    • Melbourne Rental Search May 16, 2016, 2:37 pm | Link

      Hi Youssef,
      How exciting to hear you are moving to Melbourne in July…I hope you are packing your coats, scarves and boots as it is very chilly at that time of year compared to Sunny Whitsundays!
      To be within walking distance of Russel and Bourke Street we would suggest The Docklands. It is a little more family friendly than being right in the heart of the CBD, alternatively there is East Melbourne, which is sensational however it is extremely pricey. If you are willing to go a little bit further out of the CBD and are open to taking a train or tram, it will certainly open up your search criteria. Feel free to take a look at our favourite Melbourne Suburbs:
      If there is anything at all that we can assist with please don’t hesitate to give us a call.
      Have a great afternoon!

  • liz May 4, 2016, 10:39 am | Link

    We are living in sydney and are so over the prices and the attitude.
    We have some money to invest and would like to invest in a couple of apartments in melbourne that have good, continual rentals.
    We love old style apartments, (nothing later than 1930’s), character filled spaces.
    Can anyone recommend some great suburbs for solid all year rental return.
    thanks liz

    • Melbourne Rental Search May 4, 2016, 12:29 pm | Link

      Hi Liz,
      I have worked in the Melbourne rental market for many years and think that the best place for you to start your search would be Elwood and St Kilda. These suburbs are always in demand for renters. The rent being achieved in these suburbs is high and vacancy rates are low. There are a number of older style apartments that are filled this timeless character. My only advice would be to try and invest in an apartment with at least one car space. Don’t hesitate to get in touch if you have any further questions at all. Good luck with your search 🙂

  • Lauren May 3, 2016, 5:05 am | Link

    I am a secondary school English teacher in the UK and I am thinking of moving to Melbourne. I have Australian citizenship. Can anyone give me any advice about teaching jobs?

    • BobinOz May 3, 2016, 7:14 pm | Link

      I can’t help you specifically, hopefully somebody local to Melbourne who knows about teaching jobs there will read this and give you some advice.

      I just wanted to say a few things, firstly the current job climate here in Australia isn’t great, people are finding it hard to land a job. See…

      Do make sure you read the update at the foot of that post.

      Secondly, you may want to check to see that your qualifications are transferable to Australia and recognised in schools here. I’ve heard anecdotal reports of qualified teachers not being able to land jobs of equivalent standing here because of that.

      Finally, many people have reported having difficulties landing a job because they don’t have ‘local experience’, meaning work experience in Australia. As a consequence, that first job is difficult to get, but once you are in work, getting the next job becomes easier.

      I don’t have personal experience of all this, it’s just what I’ve heard, but it may be worth you trying to look into. Good luck, Bob

    • Mark May 3, 2016, 7:49 pm | Link

      I have just been coincidentally emailing Bob about something else and he mentioned your question. That he was perhaps not best placed to answer it My wife and I are certainly better placed. I say better as my wife’s a Primary teacher so Secondary is the major difference I’m answering as my wife is on a parents evening tonight I do something else for a living but have watched my wife teaching in the UK for 20 years and being ever more demoralised by the ones that don’t teach making the rules particularly over the last 6 or 7 years If you have your citizenship then why ever not In fact I’d ask the question why are you in England The major difference out here is the Uk teachers are ahead in primary it’s when they get to secondary that things are better here E.g. Australia primary education s catching up with UK Secondary is in front I’d say the break-even is about 12 13 age In other words UK primary teacher will be way ahead in primary here whereas a Secondary might be even pegging or a touch behind its mostly more hands on teaching e.g. a primary teacher dong science can actually mix items to create an experiment In the UK you dust tell the children. Children have respect still for teachers here and the salary well that’s just not worth discussing UK salary against an Aus one and so many other reasons After 7 years you can have a term off , you have longer terms here but there are four. e.g. no half terms. Do you have any specific questions

      • Phillip May 7, 2016, 4:48 am | Link

        Hi Mark

        I wonder if your wife would mind contacting me to give me some tips on the job front?

        I’m a secondary teacher with PR. Heading over in August.

        Much appreciated.

        • Mark May 7, 2016, 12:38 pm | Link

          Hi Phillip
          First off where are you heading for? Victoria is after all actually nicknamed the Education state Just google a Victoria standard car licence plate image you will see what I mean. August mmmmm perhaps not the ideal time to go job hunting. But hey make a start I take it you have looked the terms up out here. Are you family as well cause all affects where you can reasonably commute to work from to etc. . That’s a thing we found we are further away than planned but a quicker drive. Do you have your visa Start applying now if you have one We learnt it’s not much good without it. My wife applied for about 8 to 10 jobs all thank you but keep in touch most mentioning visa. We got our Visa on the Friday 29th October. My wife applied for a job that weekend and was emailed to say she had been shortlisted, Skype interview Wednesday, she was offered the job Friday … that’s not going to work like that in many instances but just shows what can happen. If you find a school with an ex English head you’ll arguably might be better off, they know or did before they left how hard the UK is Paperwork mad and I assume you have become Social worker Police officer councillor, pen pusher(electronically ) before a teacher nowadays You’ll be pleased to hear you can get on with teaching most schools employ welfare wellbeing sorts The police officers are not needed but they do pop in for a chat in a nice way Google Monash university police, as for social workers are again dealt with as for lesson planning well say what you’re doing and get on with it I think there is something wrong when you can end up spending more than 25 minutes writing about a 45 minute lesson or 1hour 30 than teaching it.

          • Mark May 7, 2016, 12:49 pm | Link

            PS Sorry missed the PR bit . As you have your visa start applying. If you are heading for Melbourne we both will have area Mark has travelled it extensively, it just depends what school you might land with. chicken and egg. Have you anywhere to live stay yet? Where have you thought might be good?

            • Phillip May 7, 2016, 8:47 pm | Link

              Hi Mark

              Yes I have my permanent visa already. Just awaiting my VIT registration to finalise. I’m coming alone (have friends there) and am in my early 30s so want Melbourne metropolitan areas. Pretty easy on suburb but I guess Prahran, Richmond, Hawthorn etc would be likely.

              I’m heading out in August as it is the end of the academic year here and if I stayed any longer I’d be here until the Christmas term ends at which point the Victorian schools will have finished for summe so recruitment will be more difficult. Least if I go in August I have chance to find a job for Jan/Feb. I’m happy to do supply/CRT of admin, shop work etc for a few months.

              So glad to hear that the schools have less paperwork. I’m a social worker first, pen pusher second and if I’m lucky I get to teach something during all that. Thankfully we have nice kids so don’t need to act as a police officer. I’m an Assistant Head now but my subject is ICT which is now on their new curriculum there so hopefully there will be a skills shortage for ICT teachers. I’m happy to be a classroom teacher again then as I gain experience rise through the ranks. I’m ambitious and ultimately want the top job in the future.

              Where are you based? How long have you been there for?

              Thanks for the input. It’s reassuring to hear positive stories!


              • Kat May 7, 2016, 8:56 pm | Link

                Hi Philip

                I’ve been looking for school counsellor jobs and found employment in Victorian Government schools site that may be a help?


                Can I pick your brains about the VETASSESS and visa application process as I will be starting this shortly? What were the timings, costs and medical exam like and did you use a MARA?

                Many thanks


                • Phillip May 7, 2016, 9:53 pm | Link

                  Hi Kat

                  Thanks for the website. I will take a look.

                  I did not use VETASS as my skills assessment was done by the AITSL. That was the longest part of the process and took about 6 weeks from the time of posting until I received my certificate. Cost was approx £250.

                  I did not use a MARA (and would not recommend unless you have a complex case) as the process is very straightforward plus when I did have a question the High Commission in London were able to help. Once I had my skills assessment back I then added an expression of interest to Skill Select ( It was there for about 14 days then I received an invitation to apply for a subclass 189 Independent visa.

                  In the meantime I had been preparing most of my documents so that I was able to submit my application more or less right away. Documents included coloured certified copies of academic transcripts, degree certificate, police certificate from ACRO ( , IELTS certificate to prove I could speak English hahaha, a letter from my employer to confirm my employment record, payslip, copy of passport and birth certificate and an up-to-date CV. Paid online approx £2000.

                  Once submitted I waited 2 weeks and they requested I attend a medical in London (blood test, chest x-ray , check my eyes and a very basic chat). Cost approx £400. The clinic submitted it all electronically and I was then approved my visa only 4 weeks later. Was totally shocked as expected to wait at least a year and it took 6 weeks.

                  Hope some of this is useful for you!


                • Mark May 8, 2016, 3:06 pm | Link

                  Hi Kat
                  if your on a single visa and not under any pressure then a MARA agent is pointless however family visa and or under time pressure then they are wiorth their weight in gold . They do take all the hassle away We paid some £2000 as a family for a visa plus the visa fees themselves But it was all done for us You can register with VIT anytime Its a case of getting an IELTS pass or better stilll try Pearsons its a far better test in my opinion Police check you will as Philip say need all your documents copied and certified..start geting them together Dont go for a medical till they ask is one other tip and they have places all over not just London Its pretty straightforward but can be hassle as well. The IELTS was horrible Pearson far more sense. If you have £1500 spare then use a MARA Good luck with it all Its worth it Dont get stuck on the city area though or evn close and dont try commuting West side to East its a non starter The best IMHO bit is down the Mornington Peninsular for sure.

                  • Kat Daylyn May 8, 2016, 4:27 pm | Link

                    Thanks for the replies guys!

                    Doing an IELTS test seems ridiculous but I guess it gets extra points.
                    I’m against the clock in a way as am 38 in the summer and past 40 you apparently automatically lose 10 points for a visa?

                    Mark recommended Pearson for that. I’m in east anglia and work at a university (where they teach IELTS to foreign students). Do you know if its possible to do an IELTS test anywhere as long as its the real deal?

                    Thanks again for advice. I really want to try and move to Melbourne area as quality of life just seems to exceed that of UK (we had snow/sleet a couple of weeks ago!)
                    Its good to be in contact with others who are trying to do the same. My friends think I’m mad as I will leave everyone behind in UK and I don’t know anyone in Oz. But stuff it – you only live once and grey skies aren’t for me!

                    Phil: good luck! I’m envious that you will be moving so soon! I’m a year away from this process as have recently changed jobs and they need a years experience before I can apply 🙁 . Getting everything ready so I can crack on asap.

                    • Phillip May 8, 2016, 5:12 pm | Link

                      Don’t worry Kat ny friends think I’m mad too for wanting to leave my friends and family behind. Problem is I live in Sussex and simply cannot afford to buy a property here, or at least one big enough to erect a wardrobe in! I’ve spent hours looking online at property there and here and even in the city I can get a two bed place with parking for the cost of a very small one bed here with no parking. No brainer.

                      I’ve got quite a few friend there already so more than happy to take you out for some drinks if you want when you get here. They’re city based.

                      IELTS can be booked online at a location of your choice so you could just select your own uni. It’s all standardised and electronic so they allow you to choose your own centre. Think I paid about £100 but there certificate has a shelf life (12 or 24 months) so get the timinig right.

                      Your first call is that VETASSES assessment.

                      Good luck with it all. I’m more than happy to talk you through my visa app if you need help but honestly it’s very straightforward and the embassy in London are very willing to help.

                    • Mark May 8, 2016, 7:19 pm | Link

                      Hi Kat Phillip Yes whilst it was snow in Yorkshire last week we had 29 degrees here. We only knew one person here before leaving the UK. It was handy though as we had an address to register everything. its pretty difficult without one. We have 3 months ago bought a lovely 5 bed with pool and snooker pool room and three garages…Its well worth the trek out here from our point of view. .
                      Kat You need to work out how many points you need first and where they come from Degree Age You may not even need IELTS We left just after 45 having just got the invite 3 weeks to go to 45th birthday …. close as 10 more points go then and then it does get harder. so use the websites or MARA agents to see what points you have first thye will od that for free So you can see what you need IELTS was this time last year really tough, A lawyer friend with excellent English failed it 9 times yes and she was only one of about 15 to 20 on the course constantly failing one section We all cleared off ti the New Pearson and pretty what al passed first go in fact i scored a 88 89 and 2 90s way above my IELTS You can look IELTS up on the web goggle iELTS British Council Pearson is Pearson PTE assuming nothing’s changed take a day in Brum a holiday Inn and a Pearson, go to one of the open days, there is usually one at the motorcycle museum n Brum again Sorry you will learn a lot, If you have the wander lust you will love it here I’m form the USA originally, have just done 27 years in UK and now in Aus It has its problems but they are minimal (and a lack of prawn cocktail crisps) but everything else is good Unless you are a cityite and if you’re in E Anglia I’m guessing Norwich you probably won’t like living in or near the city. Its great to visit though Have a look at the South Eastern suburbs particularly from Cheltenham down to Dromana , The western suburbs are OK but still developing and the commute across the Yarra river Tulla West gate bridge is of small M25 proportions sometimes Good luck with it . We were helped when we were coming here and got here, its the Aussie way so happy to now pass on some help

              • Mark May 8, 2016, 3:23 pm | Link

                Yes understand the August bit Amazed you have avoided the police officer part.. ICT has been on curriculums for a while here and they are in fairness at all levels in front of UK They actually have room for an IT suite and each child at my sons school have a laptop each and that’s primary and that is not unusual. I can somehow not see that in UK except some of the private schools. The areas you have picked are very close to the city and id personally avoid it will be harder to rent a house there as its prime territory and unless you get a school job close by the commute out of there may be pretty bad as an idea I have a friend in Brighton who commutes to CBD it takes him 50 minutes that’s 10 mins to station in car 30 to 35 mins train and a final walk. Have a look further south Cheltenham Aspendale down the Mornington peninsular With the New m11 freeway its pretty quick to get North
                When you get here you will need an address to get a driving license as that the easiest ID form but without an address its impossible to get the license and without a license its pretty hard to rent something

                • Kat Daylyn May 8, 2016, 5:33 pm | Link

                  Thanks Phil, might just take you up on the offer (drinks and advice!)
                  The UK property market seems mad and doesn’t reflect average wages. I’m still living at home as I can’t afford to move out again having spent the last 4 years retraining. Cost of masters degree and having to do placements (ie working for free) to qualify have left me doing reduced hours at work.
                  I’ve been getting job alerts for the last 18 months in and around Melbourne and Sydney and I have seen plenty of teaching posts available. Not sure how the money compares but watching Wanted Down Under overall the salaries and job satisfaction seem to be significantly higher.

                  I don’t have any ties in the UK and I figure with facetime and skype can keep in contact with friends and relatives. A friend moved to NZ over a year ago and reckons she has contact with people more now than she did when she lived in London!

  • Tiffany April 28, 2016, 6:57 pm | Link

    Hi, my husband and I plan to move our family with 3 boys to Melbourne. We look for a suburb which is close to the city with good schools for the kids, great houses with big garden . Any recommendation please?


    • BobinOz April 29, 2016, 7:39 pm | Link

      Again, this is one I will need to leave to the locals, but it might be an idea if you let people know what your budget is and whether you’re renting or buying?

    • Rose April 30, 2016, 4:49 pm | Link

      I grew up in the eastern suburbs over the last 10 years, and now live in Middle Park. It all depends on how much you want to spend really. The best schools are around Kew/Hawthorn. These suburbs are leafy; close to the eastern freeway, trams/buses/trains; have great amenities such as sports/parks etc… But are also some of the most expensive “exclusive” suburbs. If you go out further to Templestowe/Balwyn/Camberwell areas, these also have the good schools etc but are a little further out. If you love small community feeling and lots of native bush with good schools and within 30-40minute drive of the city, Warrandyte/Park Orchards/Donvale are nice. Other suburbs worth looking into are areas such as st Kilda East which is very close to the city and schools.

      • Melbourne Rental Search May 2, 2016, 11:05 am | Link

        Hi Tiffany! Rose has some great recommendations! You may also want to consider some of the western/northern suburbs like Williamstown, Moonee Ponds or Essendon that are well known for great houses, not too far from the city and plenty of amenities. If you need any more information please let us know 🙂

        • bruzaoo5 May 2, 2016, 11:48 am | Link

          Hi Rosa & Tiffany, I’ve been following this post a little as i will be looking to relocate to Victoria (which unfortunately i’ve got to bypass my fav place Brisb due to the poor job market). I am 39 single dad and I will be relocating with my 11 yr old boy from Perth. I am looking at a suburb where the boy can be either be close to the train / tram line and go to a fairly good public school and where he can join a football club. He will be in his last year of primary school. I don’t want to be in an exclusive suburb but a decent and safe, family friendly area where the boy can take himself to school int eh mornings and afternoons. An area that is perhaps 20-30min from the city with lots of amenities, like gym, cafes etc, hospital, parks, train bus etc will be good. Perhaps any new estates that is going up that anyone may know of. Any further suggestions would be very much appreciated.

          • Melbourne Rental Search May 2, 2016, 2:17 pm | Link

            Hi Bruzaoo5
            Without knowing your budget, we would suggest you could consider areas around Altona, Pascoe Vale, Greensborough, Blackburn, Glen Waverley, Mordialloc or Moorabbin. These are about 30 min out of the city, have great public transport, solid public schools in reach and are family friendly. Melbourne is football obsessed so most suburbs will have opportunities for your son to join a team. If you are after a new estate, these are generally a fair bit further out from the city and can have less amenities with limited public transport.

  • clara April 28, 2016, 5:34 pm | Link

    hello, i’m Spanish and i would like to go to Melbourne and if its possible i would tike to study there to, but most of all i would like to get some new experience, i will go with the student visa that will only permit me to work for 20 hours per week. i was wondering if its difficult to find a job in Melbourne for non experience international students i do speak 4 languages though. and what job is usually available? thanks

    • BobinOz April 29, 2016, 7:36 pm | Link

      I will need to leave this one to the locals Clara. I know Melbourne is a very popular destination for students, so hopefully somebody with some insight will be able to help you out here. Anybody?

    • Rose April 30, 2016, 4:33 pm | Link

      I’m in my 20’s and have lots of European friends. In general it is quite competitive to find a job (even for us locals). If you are willing to work in a bar or a shop and have experience, you’ll have no problems. The Melbourne night life is great with so many quirky little places. Print your resume and take a wander around the CBD

  • V Lau April 27, 2016, 6:26 pm | Link

    I am planning to get a townhouse in either Essendon or Doncaster East as investment! Both properties are around AUD 700k, size around 120m. Which one with stronger potential capital gain in 5-10 years?!

  • Sam April 22, 2016, 9:02 am | Link

    Good morning!

    I’m a Brisbanite looking to move to Melbourne. Are there ‘bad’ areas of Melbourne (for a 27 year old female moving alone)? I like suburban areas not too crowded, and a bit of a commute wouldn’t bother me. Not sure what suburbs to look into. Thank you!


    • Jade Costello April 22, 2016, 2:21 pm | Link

      Hi Sam,
      So exciting to hear that your moving to Melbourne – Your going to Love it here! 🙂
      Melbourne is generally a safe city to live in, however there are certainly suburbs that are considered safer than others.
      The area and suburb in which you plan to rent a home in is a crucial factor in the lifestyle you wish to adopt. Choosing the right location to live in is paramount as it ultimately becomes your immediate community and most importantly determines what restaurants and shopping options you have right on your doorstep!

      When choosing a new home in Melbourne a good starting point is to consider what is really important to you.

      – How long am I willing to travel each day to get to work?
      – Am I going to drive or do I need public transport to be readily available?
      – Rental budget

      We have compiled a short list of our personal favourite Melbourne suburbs to rent in on our website:

      Wishing you all the best of luck. We are always just a phone call away if you have any questions at all regarding renting in Melbourne 🙂

  • Christopher March 31, 2016, 5:42 am | Link

    Hello, Bob!

    I’m writing you this afternoon because i’ve been interested in moving to Melbourne for a while now and i needed some advice. I’m 21 years old and currently pursuing my undergrad degree in psychology in the US and am waiting to save enough cash before i leave. I was wondering how someone like me might apply for a job first from the US to AUS, and how much money i should have before making my move. Thank you for all of the info provided thus far! I look forward to hearing from you.


    • BobinOz March 31, 2016, 8:58 pm | Link

      You can get help on this over on my page called Getting a Job or a Sponsorship, but it won’t be easy to secure a job whilst you’re not yet here in Australia and also it would probably be a good idea for you to get some postgrad work experience.

      As for money, who knows how much you might need, moving to Australia isn’t cheap. Of course, if you have a job to start immediately on arrival that will help, but if you don’t, I would try to have at least six months survival money, more if you can.

      Cheers, Bob

  • Willemijn March 21, 2016, 3:06 pm | Link

    Hi Bob,

    First of all, thanks! When we were preparing our big move we found a lot of useful information on your website. We moved to Melbourne about nine months ago and we are sharing our experience on our blog europe2australia. We have a separate section with practical information about moving to Melbourne. One of which is on finding a place to live in Melbourne, one of the most important issues when you want to move. Might be useful for your readers as well.
    Best regards,

    • BobinOz March 21, 2016, 11:26 pm | Link

      With your knowledge of Melbourne Willemijn, please feel free to assist my readers here in the comments when they have questions about where to live. You are more than welcome to include a link to your website as you have done with this comment by making your name a live link to your site.

      The more people you help then, I’m sure, the more of my readers will want to visit your website. Cheers, Bob

  • Lakshay March 20, 2016, 11:49 pm | Link

    Hey, I’m moving to Melbourne next year. Can you name nice places to live? A place which is green, houses with pool, near to beach and main market. Very much similar to Santa Monica of Los Angeles. Thanks!

    • BobinOz March 21, 2016, 9:08 pm | Link

      Well, I don’t know Melbourne nearly enough to advise you, I live up here in Brisbane. For some strange reason though, I’m thinking it might be worth you checking out Williamstown. But if a local comes along and tells you something different, I’d listen to them instead of me 🙂

    • Tido April 2, 2016, 3:21 am | Link

      Hey, from what you’ve described you’d be looking at the St Kilda, Port Melbourne areas, these are both affluent suburbs and generally known as more ‘upper class’ areas. That’s about 20-30 mins from Melbourne CBD. Not many homes in central Melbourne and its surrounding suburbs have pools as many houses are refurbished Victorian single homes. A characteristic of Melbourne housing is refurbished late Victorian homes with large extensions added to them.

    • Melbourne Rental Search April 12, 2016, 2:58 pm | Link

      Hi Lakshay! I’ve been 3 times to Santa Monica and I think the best equivalent in Melbourne would be St Kilda. It’s about 10 min from the city, right on the beach and has plenty of shops and bars/restaurants. Other alternatives could be Williamstown, Hampton, Sandringham, Elwood or Brighton. If you were willing to live away from the city Mt Martha could also be good or if you were looking for a more budget friendly option I’d recommend Aspendale or Altona. Hope this helps!! 🙂

  • Amruta March 12, 2016, 2:47 pm | Link

    I’m planning a semester abroad at Monash University, but want the full Melbourne city experience. Where do you suggest I look for a place? Price is not the biggest concern.

    • BobinOz March 14, 2016, 4:44 pm | Link

      For what it’s worth, I really liked St Kilda, but this is a question best answered by the locals.

    • Tido April 2, 2016, 3:25 am | Link

      From a locals perspective. A great place for university students would be areas such as Hawthorn, Camberwell and Richmond. The great thing about Melbourne is all these suburbs are directly linked to one another through our extensive tram network. If your looking for the ‘inner city’ ‘real’ Melbourne experience I’d suggest a suburb like Richmond. 5-10 minute tram ride to the CBD and easy transport connections to Clayton, the location of Melbourne larger Monash Campus 🙂

    • Melbourne Rental Search April 12, 2016, 3:04 pm | Link

      Hi Amruta! I think if you want a full Melbourne city experience you could move to any of the following inner city locations: Prahran, South Yarra, Carlton, St. Kilda, Richmond, Windsor, Collingwood, Brunswick etc… All of these neighbourhoods are filled with young diverse crowds and have great access to the bars, restaurants, events and shops that will make your time in Melbourne amazing. That said, if you are going to Monash I agree with Tido that Richmond probably has the best public transport options for you to get to uni. If you have any other queries please let us know! 🙂

  • Tracy Olson February 15, 2016, 3:43 am | Link

    My daughter is heading to Melbourne the first of the month. She and her boyfriend are coming on a work/travel visa for a year. Where would you suggest they set up shop that would be economical for a couple of kids straight out of college and needing to find a job quickly? We love your web site and it has helped us immensely! Thank you.

    • BobinOz February 15, 2016, 5:37 pm | Link

      Most people head to one of the backpackers places, you can get lots more information about this on my pages about Working Holiday Visas and Backpacking in Australia.

      Glad to hear my website has been helpful to you. Thanks, Bob

    • Melbourne Rental Search April 12, 2016, 3:16 pm | Link

      Hi Tracey! If they are on a tight budget I’d recommend getting an air BnB somewhere close to the city like Brunswick, St Kilda, Prahran etc. There are many private rooms available for $40 a night. They can then search for a share house once they arrive using a site like flatmate finder or gum tree or get their own rental from or For a young couple wanting to experience the best of Melbourne I’d definitely recommend sticking to inner city. Share houses can also be a better option as often there will already be a lease in place so although they will still need to provide all their details to the landlord, the process isn’t as strict.

  • shani Patel February 9, 2016, 6:58 pm | Link


    My name is Shani Patel. I am planning to come Melbourne for study in April with my wife. So I would like to live in Melbourne near Latrobe University.I am Indian so i prefer to live with Indians at cheap rate. Can you please suggest some areas or residents where i can stay.

  • Kelly January 27, 2016, 9:20 am | Link

    Good afternoon. I have been reading a number of blog entries and really have found some of the information and responses on here quite useful, so I figured.. why not! 🙂
    I have been contacted by a recruiting agency with regards to my work and may be looking at moving to the Melbourne area. I would be working for the Victorian Government and am really excited about this possibility. I have another teleconference this week so we will see what comes of it.
    I have been looking around at places to live and wondering where would best suit our needs. I have a husband and 9year old son – who absolutely loves Hockey and fishing (which had me a bit worried because I didn’t even think there was hockey in Australia – But there is some academy’s and associations in Melbourne which is great news!
    I’m leaning towards Point Cook area? That was just an area that caught my eye and was quite appealing – also seemed to have everything that our family loves. I am not sure what office I would be working at so I guess that will have some impact. Although I am prepared to commute approx. 45mins to work if it means living somewhere that my family absolutely loves. I am wondering if you or anyone has some other suggestions. We do not want to be in the heart of the city. We enjoy a more laid back active lifestyle. Close to water.. fishing .. parks… and of course schools. Any and all feedback welcome. Thanks in advance!!

    • BobinOz January 28, 2016, 8:03 pm | Link

      Hi Kelly

      This is one of those questions I will need to leave to the locals, hopefully somebody will be along soon to help you out. Anyone got any tips for Kelly?

    • David January 30, 2016, 3:47 pm | Link

      Hi Kelly,
      I don’t know a great deal of the Point Cook side of town but public transport is mainly going to be bus (at least to get to a railway station on the Werribee line unless you want to drive that distance and hope to get a parking spot). Here is a link to the map of public transport in the City of Wyndham (which includes Point Cook):

      The map also shows coastal wetland parks on Port Philip Bay.

      You could also consider the next municipality closer to Melbourne, the City of Hobsons Bay, which includes Altona and Williamstown (Altona also just appears on the far right of the City of Wyndham map, about half way up). This is the link to the map of public transport in the City of Hobsons Bay:

      There are coastal parks and foreshore walking areas there, too. I’ve heard that Williamstown has a more village-like atmosphere, but that might be an indication of its popularity, thus prices of housing (rental or purchase) might be higher there than in either Altona or Point Cook. That would be a matter to research.

      I understand that the volume of traffic on the Princes Freeway from Point Cook into Melbourne is very, very heavy in peak hour as the freeway carries traffic from further afield, e.g., Geelong and Werribee (not that traffic on the east side of Melbourne is light in peak hour, either!). The traffic situation might be another factor in favour of Altona and Williamstown, which might offer the prospect of being able to walk to a railway station.

      I hope this helps.

    • Toby March 26, 2016, 6:51 pm | Link

      Hi Kelly, not sure if this is still relevant to you, but maybe others can benefit from it if you’ve already made the move. Point cook is a new development area about 15-20 km south west of the city. It’s family friendly and close to the bay with good fishing (flathead, squid, whiting, gummy shark). However, poor planning has seen major traffic issues around peak times, with delays of up to 1hr just to get onto the road to the city. They have nearly finished building a second access rd to the highway but i think with all the extra housing going in the problem will still persist.
      Look at Geelong instead, close to real beaches (as well as the bay), wineries, golf, great food and world class schools and university. Geelong is about 70km from Melbourne cbd connected by a 100kph freeway, so in light traffic about 45 minutes. Peak hour, you hit the princes fwy carpark at point cook! (But it probably took you less time to get there than point cook residents!). On another note, many government agencies are moving to or have recently moved to geelong, I don’t know who you are working for; but chances are they might already have offices in Geelong. I would recommend Geelong over Melbourne any day – especially for young families. Even if you work in Melbourne cbd, its less than 1hr on the train.
      Best of luck, hope this is of some help to you.

    • Tido April 2, 2016, 3:28 am | Link

      If your a sons a fan of hockey if suggest Melbourne High Hockey Club ;).

    • Melbourne Rental Search April 12, 2016, 3:27 pm | Link

      Hi Kelly! It all depends on your budget. You can get a new rental in Point Cook in a pretty good location for approx. $400 a week. But the downside is that it can be a long and frustrating commute to work. If your budget is more than this then there are some amazing family friendly, very relaxed neighbourhoods like Williamstown, Altona, Sandringham, Black Rock, Beaumaris, Mentone… etc. Or some other more budget friendly options could be Chelsea or Aspendale. If you have any other questions please let us know 🙂

  • Tania January 27, 2016, 5:43 am | Link

    Hello everyone,

    So I have just been granted my visa to move to Australia today and I’m super excited. However, I have been having difficulties choosing on where to move too. It’s between Melbourne and Perth. They both look amazing in such different ways.

    I’m 23 and will be moving with my boyfriend who is 27. We do enjoy a lively lifestyle but wouldn’t go out partying very often. We prefer doing activities such as going to the beach, camping, hiking, water sports and basically anything that is outdoors. But then we also like the theater, musicals, restaurants and cafes….

    When it comes to careers, he has a degree in Computing and i have a degree in Business. Which would be easiest to find a job?

    What would give me the best lifestyle overall? If anyone could give me some hints or tips in regards this I would really appreciate it. We are booking flights soon for two months time and still don’t know where to go too.

    Thank you,

    • BobinOz January 27, 2016, 4:25 pm | Link

      Given what you said about yourselves Tania, I’d go Melbourne. I think Perth is a great place for young families and bringing up kids, but even for somebody who doesn’t party often, I think you will find the nightlife lacking. Melbourne is much more lively and will probably offer better job opportunities as well.

      Just my view, as you say, they are both great cities. Maybe somebody else has a different opinion?

      Good luck, wherever you decide.

    • Adrian January 28, 2016, 9:17 pm | Link

      I haven’t even been to Perth so take this with a grain of salt:

      Beaches, outdoor stuff. Definately Perth. With Melbourne, you’d have a bit of driving before you hit a good beach. Perth 1. Melbourne 0.

      Restaurants, theatres, cafes… Definately Melbourne. Melbourne may even beat Sydney for this. Perth 1. Melbourne 1.

      Nightlife? Melbourne again. Some people say Perth is just like a country town but bigger (very clean, though and good good public transport). Perth 1. Melbourne 2.

      Career in Business/IT. Melbourne most likely. The resource boom is over so Perth isn’t doing as well as it was. Melbourne is bigger, attracts more business, therefore more opportunities. Perth 1. Melbourne 3.

      Perth – great beaches, outdoors, hot weather.

      Melbourne – cooler climate, cafes, restaurants, nightlife. More opportunities for jobs.
      Have you been to either one yet? Maybe a visit to both will help you decide.

      Disclaimer: I live in Melbourne.

      • BobinOz January 29, 2016, 10:02 pm | Link

        Sounds just like the Crystal Palace vs Tottenham game last weekend 🙂

        I agree entirely as well, nice round up Adrian.

    • Ken February 2, 2016, 10:50 am | Link

      Hi Tania.
      Definitely Melbourne. For all the things you mention, Melbourne only misses on one point…. beaches. Most people refer to the Bayside beaches which are very average….but, get to the coast and yay, they are good. Great coastal beaches, with good surf, great fishing etc but very different to other states on the east and west coast that have ‘nice pretty beaches’.
      As far as outdoors go, Victoria has within easy reach – snowfields, deserts, oceans, rainforests, mountains etc. Plus, being on the east coast, cheap to Sydney, Brisbane, Gold Coast etc for those quick weekend getaways. From Perth, it a long flight and expensive to go anywhere unless you like Bali. Many folk leave Perth now as it way too expensive and can be isolating. As newcomers, I would highly recommend Melbourne to meet what you need – it’s also easier to form friendships which is important.

    • James February 2, 2016, 8:26 pm | Link

      It seems from your post you would prefer the outdoors with good weather and if that is the case then Perth would have to be your bet. You should look at what Western Australia offers in terms of outdoors and great areas to head away to. WA has some of the most remote and best beaches in Australia and also Perth doesn’t have too bad of beaches. In winter it will rain for a couple of weeks then you will have clear skies with a temp around 20-24 degrees. Sunniest capital in Australia. A few places that a close to Perth you should look at are Margaret River region, Albany, Ledge Point, Jurien Bay all within a few hours. If you look further you have Shark Bay, Monkey Mia, Kalbarri, Coral Bay (Ningaloo Reef is an absolute must to visit!). If you go even further north you have Karijini, Broome and the Kimberleys.

      Melbourne has got the nightlife no doubt and it is cheaper compared to Perth but then also your wages are less in Melbourne so it is all relative. Perth’s nightlife in the city is starting to pick up but by no means is it like Melbourne – a lot of micro breweries have kicked off years ago in Perth which you may want to look at because nothing beats a frothy on a Sunday evening watching the sun set over the ocean. If you like to go out now and then you should look at Perth as it is definitely a lifestyle place to live. The resources boom is slowing down but there is plenty of work in those sectors you mentioned. I would see where you can get work, or at least get more feedback from your resumes. There is a big emphasis on BI across a lot of sectors in Perth and also optimisation within the IT industry.

      I am from Perth but I love to visit Melbourne and have family from there and it is a good break from Perth. However, if you want consistent good weather, great beaches, coastal life style and in a big country town then Perth is worth a look at. If you like to be in a city with restaurants, theatres and bars consistently open during the week then Melbourne is your bet. You wouldn’t like the cafes in Perth although since the boom is over the price of coffee is coming down to a house deposit. Oh, and to stir the pot, the beaches in Victoria have nothing on the beaches in WA 😉 Save your money on flights visiting the GC and the like. Hop in a car and hit the tarmac to find some hidden gems.

      • Bruce February 4, 2016, 3:49 pm | Link

        I think as a new comer, it all depends what your priority is. I would think that finding ajob could be the first priority. Perth offers some of the best beacches going, white crystal clear beaches (in most parts, great going down south – 2hrs drive). Nightlife is ok but you will soon get bored and Perth i s”clicky”. Ned to find your little circles…lol. Be mindful, the resources boom is over and Perth is struggling in many areas. Engineering, construction etc is very very competitive and lots of people out work and looking for work..

        Melbourne is a lot more vibrant city, lots to do. Beaches not so great, but its cheap to fly to the Gold Coast or Sydney for a quick getaway for some nice sandy beaches. There are better work opportunities over east and i am actually considering leaving Perth for Melbourne (Brisbane was my choice but Brissie is just as flat in my work profession). I live in Perth for 20 years so i now how tough it can be.

        So it all depends what you can do, if you are a qualified Tradie then Perth might be ok otherwise go east get some work experience and then look at transitioning over to Perth if you want nice sandy beaches, hot summer days.

      • Scott February 24, 2016, 2:19 am | Link

        Way to isolated though, having grown up there, I get return flights for $120 Adelaide to Melbourne. Adelaide not the best city in this country, but I can’t even get under $400 return just to see family in Perth. Travelling is so much easier this neck of the woods, I have been interstate 10 times in the 2.5 years being in SA. Living in Melbourne you can fly to Hobart one way for $50, Sydney for around $80, Brisbane for $120 and the list goes on.

    • Scott February 24, 2016, 2:13 am | Link

      Melbourne, faster paced multicultural city with great sporting events, night life and cooler weather (sometimes rains many days). Perth very very isolated from all the other Australian cities, hot summers, cool winters, very nice beaches. I would go to Melbourne, at your age it would be easier to make friends there and there is so much else to do other than sporting events and nightlife.

    • Tido April 2, 2016, 3:31 am | Link

      If your under the age of 45 and aren’t and into stamp collecting and Wednesday night bingo I’d steer clear of Perth ;). From what you said about enjoying theatre and immersive experiences Melbournes your place 🙂

  • Lee January 20, 2016, 6:17 pm | Link

    Hey Bob,

    Thanks for all the great articles. I have been lurking on your site for a couple of months now. I’m working on a property search engine for Australia called Homekoala and it’s located at

    I would love for you to check it out should you have the time and let me know what you think!


    • BobinOz January 20, 2016, 9:59 pm | Link

      Brave of you to enter such a competitive market, lots of big players. I wish you well with it Lee, looks good, but I haven’t tested it for the search results, I’m on holiday at the moment, Internet is at snail pace:-)

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