Living in Adelaide

Adelaide CityAdelaide is the capital of South Australia and is Australia’s fifth largest city. It has a population of around 1.29 million people and is situated on the south coast of Australia about 600 km north west of Melbourne. It has a reputation for being calm and relaxed with a feel more like a big town than a city.Adelaide Location Map

It ranks very well according to the Economist Intelligence Unit’s 2014 Liveability Survey, being placed as the fifth most liveable city in the world; impressive. It’s a lofty position which leaves many who live there bewildered, as some of the comments below will illustrate.

The city centre is divided into North Adelaide and Adelaide by the narrow Torrens River. Then both of these central areas are completely surrounded by green park lands which separate the centre from the suburbs. The city is small and compact and easy to navigate being laid out in a grid like fashion. The heart of the city is Victoria Square.

Adelaide claims to be the “20 minutes city”, meaning you can get anywhere within 20 minutes by car. That’s probably a slight exaggeration, but it is an easy city to get around and there is little by the way of traffic jams.

Adelaide and the surrounding areas are a beach goer’s paradise. The city itself sits on the east of the Gulf St. Vincent and is just 10 km away from those sandy shores. West Beach, Henley Beach, Glenelg Beach and Semaphore Beach are all close by and may well be some of the best metropolitan beaches in Australia.

For even more beach options, jump into the car and head north for about an hour and a half. You can then begin to explore over 700 km of beaches on the York Peninsula. Take your pick, there’s plenty to choose from. If you want to drive your car on a beach, go to North Beach at Wallaroo.

If that’s not enough for you, take a trip out to Kangaroo Island, just a short ferry trip about an hour and a half’s drive south from the city. Enjoy the natural wildlife of the island, kangaroos, penguins, koalas, wallabies, goannas and a lot more.

Oh, and Adelaide is also internationally recognised for its winemaking at vineyards such as those at the Barossa Valley and Coonawarra regions.

Sounds nice doesn’t it?

What’s the weather like?

Adelaide Annual Weather ChartAdelaide’s climate has been described as “Mediterranean” and summers can be extremely hot but what is most notable of all, is how dry it is. It’ll play havoc with your skin.

Summers are really sunny but winter is not so good, being quite cold and dull with a fair bit of rain.

The heat and the dryness do, of course, indicate the dangers of bushfires. Other severe weather would include thunderstorms and gales.

Here’s a map of Adelaide with the location of each of those areas:

Adelaide Map
Adelaide can be broken down into five main areas:

  • Inner Adelaide – includes City, Inner North, Inner South, Inner East and Inner West
  • North Adelaide – includes Port Adelaide Area, Outer North East and Outer North
  • South Adelaide – includes Outer South
  • East Adelaide – includes Adelaide Hills
  • West Adelaide – includes Glenelg and Brighton

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Ashika Raj November 4, 2015 at 7:49 pm

Hi Everyone,

I am from India and have recently applier for my PR vis(190 sub class state sponsored) expecting to move to South Australia witin 4-5 months time.After reading all the comments about economy,unemplyoment am little concerned.Am a microbiologist and have worked for 15 years in various food industries as Quality controller(am also certified in various international food safety standards).Bob could you please let me know if there are food manufacturing/processing units in SA??I could fit into meat/dairy/beverage/catering units.I would be going with my spouse and a 9 year old daughter.


BobinOz November 4, 2015 at 8:27 pm

The short answer is I don’t know, I’m in Brisbane so I will need to leave this question to the locals, hopefully somebody will help you out.

All I can suggest is you search for your kind of work on my page called Getting a Job or a Sponsorship but I’m sure somebody locally will help you out here as well.

Good luck, Bob


Anonymous November 13, 2015 at 1:49 pm

You should apply to be a grounds keeper at Adelaide oval


Hendrik October 30, 2015 at 1:42 am


I’m planning to move to Aus, from South Africa. My wife and 2 kids(1 and 3 yo) included. We are both Secondary teachers Maths and English.
How is the job market in Adelaide? We do like its ‘lay back attitude”
Good areas for kids and schools?
Will we be able to afford living in Adelaide on 2 teachers salaries ?
I have no clue what things cost in Aus?


Gareth October 30, 2015 at 8:49 am

Chalkies usually have good options in South Australia, as teachers are paid by the government and generally have a good income. The only issue you may have is that they will shuffle you around in temporary posts until a full time position becomes vacant, and you don’t get to chose where that is. Best option is to keep an eye out on or contact the education department directly.


Charles October 27, 2015 at 10:43 pm

Hi Everyone,

I am from India and am planning to move to Adelaide by May 2016. My profession is Customer Service and by reading all the comments I have seen that the job market is down at this moment, but being young and energetic I am ready to take up any kind of job which will take care of my expenses of housing, food etc. Kindly advise if my decision to move to Adelaide is good enough and if I will be able to get jobs once I reach there.


Ros October 28, 2015 at 2:20 pm

Currently there is very little work in Adelaide. It would be best to choose another city. Adelaide was just ranked below Tasmania and that is saying something significant.


Flowman October 23, 2015 at 12:05 am

Hi everyone,
I have gone through most of the posts and I would like to know how easy for students especially from Africa to get a part time job and earn a living from it. I just got an offer of admission in to one of the university in Adelaide and I would love to support my expenses with the work I will be doing while studying. Thanks for reading through.


BobinOz October 23, 2015 at 7:34 pm

Ah, yes, somebody did say something about this in a previous comment and I have managed to find it, check out what Paul has to say. Good luck, Bob


Amelia Weinstein October 16, 2015 at 9:02 am

Can you tell me what Adelaide would be likefor 27 year old women that is going over there from USA and has a job.


BobinOz October 16, 2015 at 9:42 pm

Well, I’ve only been there once for a holiday, so my knowledge of Adelaide is extremely limited. All I would say is it’s not our liveliest city, but it is a very pleasant place to live and as you have a job to go to, I think you’d enjoy it.

Hopefully a local, maybe someone around your age, will be able to give you more than I can.


Faheem Ahmed Butt October 9, 2015 at 2:07 pm

i want to move Australia for my kids better future


BobinOz October 9, 2015 at 8:39 pm

Then this is the page for you…


Josh October 8, 2015 at 10:37 pm

I am from Adelaide, and have knowledge of our economic and demographic trends. Our unemployment rate is relatively high at the moment simply because of another round of economic restructuring that is eroding manufacturing jobs. Our city has traditionally been more reliant on manufacturing jobs than other Australian cities, but the high AUD (has now come down a bit) has caused a loss of these types of jobs. If you are not interested in manufacturing jobs, then good, because virtually all other job sectors are going quite well. Unfortunately, many blue collar workers have led the unemployment rate higher, as their transition to other employment sectors is arguably harder than professionals, health or admin workers. FYI there are still shops in the CBD with work available signs in shop windows, so if you are not planning on working at a car making plant, then you shouldn’t have a huge issue gaining employment in Adelaide. However don’t expect a 6 figure salary and to land a full-time job in a day


Ian Vallely October 7, 2015 at 10:13 pm

Hello Lilly,
Although I live in London I’ve just returned from a 3-week trip to Adelaide where I lived many moons ago. I’m also contemplating my return. I guess London and Sydney are similar in they’re both bloody expensive places to live, my one bed flat here can be exchanged for a 2/3 bed town house in a snazzy Adelaide location. So long as you or your partner has a job then I can’t see any reason why Adelaide isn’t a good place to live. Yes its quieter but still it has a lot to offer and its very affordable compared to other places. Good Luck


Lilly October 7, 2015 at 9:30 pm

Hi Everyone on this post, I am mother of 2 little boys, that requires lots of stimulation, I also work 4 days a week in real estate in Manly, I work with the nicest people and absolutely love my job.
My husband is considering taking up a job in Adelaide CBD, we would only move if it put us in a better financial position so we can possibly have a 3rd child and not feel like we are chasing our tail with bills/groceries/work.
We are only managing to cover the cost of living and are unable to save for family holidays, we recently bought a house in Sydney and the mortgage and maintenance is really hitting hard.
We are seriously considering making the big change to Adelaide beach and City. We must have good schools and sport facilities, beach and shopping.
What are your opinions about us making the change? All opinions welcome good and bad.
Lilly Patterson


BobinOz October 8, 2015 at 7:57 pm

Well, firstly, welcome Lilly. I’m not from Adelaide, so I can’t really answer your question, but it seems to me from the many conversations here in this thread that the biggest problem with Adelaide is finding work. As your husband has a job offer on the table, you have already overcome the major, if not only, problem of living in Adelaide.

Adelaide is obviously a much cheaper city to live in than Sydney, so if you’re husband’s wage is going to be favourable, then I would have thought that yes, you would be much better off.

Hopefully somebody local will give you more advice here, but do be sure to read the comments already made here as there is some good information about what it’s like to live in Adelaide.

Good luck, whatever you decide.


Heidi October 6, 2015 at 12:46 pm

Hi, This has probably been asked a thousand times before and I get it would be impossible to answer fully but is there are a general idea of the good (and places to avoid) list of areas with good transport links to the CBD and good schools and area to live if you have a child

(Background – born and raised and currently live in Sydney but with a British born husband and 8yo son – we returned from the UK 4 years ago and want to finally settle somewhere – we just got back from a break in Adelaide and love it!!!)

We both work in Admin and are both happy to have a change in jobs so specific career advice is not as important as we are not ‘career’ people we just want jobs to live as such.


Paul T October 6, 2015 at 1:06 pm

Hello Heidi
As a long term Adelaide Local, I would suggest the Eastern or North Eastern Suburbs. They are mostly reasonably close to the main Adelaide CBD and therefore closer to the jobs and school hub?
Look at suburbs such as Payneham, Trinity Gardens, Klemzig, Paradise, Burnside, Tranmere, Athelstone. Prices for housing will be a bit more expensive but there are good schools transport, shops and other facilities. As you head out further North or South, housing gets cheaper but you have a longer commute if you end up working in the CBD.
Where did you stay or spend most of your time on your recent visit to Adelaide?
If there is anything more specific I can help with, please feel free to ask.
Cheers, Paul


shalzi September 28, 2015 at 3:02 pm

Thanx alot Gareth, and it sounds really great. Since i’m hoping to move end of next year, it’ll be great if you could send me some details, so i could get more information on that company.


shalzi September 28, 2015 at 2:14 pm

I’m a Graphic Designer and hoping to move to Adelaide next year…Could I please know if there are any vacancies under my career…I have got my BA(hons) in Graphics as well…Please help me out.

Thank You


Gareth September 28, 2015 at 2:26 pm

Shalzi,you can search for work at this is Australia most comprehensive employment site.


shalzi September 28, 2015 at 2:33 pm

Thanx alot Gareth.. but i highly doubt there are any Graphics retaled jobs at the moment..


Gareth September 28, 2015 at 2:38 pm

One of my Korean contractors was employed last year by a graphics design company, and recently bought the business. Opportunities are there for those who look.


Scott September 21, 2015 at 4:27 am

I’ve been considering a move to Adelaide for some time now and therefore like anyone else you do your research, you look into the local economy, infrastructure, MARA info, a reccie visit/holiday (if you can), and you lurk on websites, forums and blogs like this one to find out as much as you can. You might post a few questions or just read answers to others. You gain a load of insightful opinions and they raise questions and make you consider some stuff you hadn’t thought of and you take time to research some more. I weigh up the pros and cons daily and will eventually come to a firm decision one way or another.

I’m really grateful for those who post and highlight the negatives and whose main objective is to shed a realistic light on what may be somewhat of an idealistic hope/plan for many.

However, while lurking on such sites, to come across the same voice, weilding the same axe, actually gives it a little less credibility and dilutes the message. It makes you consider the message as tainted by personal bitterness rather than underpinned by genuine desire to ensure that potential migrants to Adelaide arrive well equipped to deal with any existing socio-economic struggles.

Im laying off the lurking for a while. I wish anyone who takes the leap of faith lots of luck & that you are rewarded with all the good fortune it deserves.


BobinOz September 21, 2015 at 2:11 pm

I think Pete’s many many negative posts reek of ‘tainted by personal bitterness’ and I have been as patient as I can with him. If he continues I will start to moderate his posts so they need my approval before going live, because it is getting very tedious now.


Pete September 30, 2015 at 3:25 am

fair enough then Bob, I cannot help it if my communication is direct, brutal and to the point, my profession often requires communication without sugar coating, I agree it sounds somewhat bitter, but honestly I’m more annoyed at myself for not calling it quits earlier, I think the word I would prefer you to use is tenacious, and my opinion is confined to SA and adelaide and it still had not changed. it just does not make the grade, and immigrant families are taking huge risks swapping what they have for what they hope to have in such a place.

It’s all relative of course, if you have nothing and you’re single, then it;s just as good a place to gain entry to Australia as any other, but I’d caution against trying to re-create what you have here, there.


BobinOz September 30, 2015 at 11:54 pm

Well, I think you are right to warn people and you have certainly done that, quite a lot.

Maybe you should have called it quits earlier, you didn’t, but you certainly can now :-). Thanks for your contributions, I do appreciate it and I’m sure many others have as well.

Good luck to you, Bob


James September 20, 2015 at 8:35 pm

Adelaide is a very nice place to live and work (eastern suburbs or beach side suburbs). It helps to have a sound financial base before embarking on any major move to be able to ride out changing circumstances. In Adelaide, health. education and professional services would be the best sectors to secure employment and/or start or acquire a business.


pete September 21, 2015 at 3:39 am

so , you mean, make your money and fortune elsewhere and then come to Adelaide ?, I see the Royal Adelaide Hospital is delayed by another year.


BobinOz September 21, 2015 at 1:41 pm

No Pete, I’m pretty sure James does not mean that. He means anybody embarking on a major move to anywhere else, not just Adelaide, anywhere, should have a sound financial base to give them a chance to settle and find their feet.

It’s sensible advice, it’s common sense, not sure why you can’t see that.


Jaffar September 20, 2015 at 5:26 am

Hi Everyone,

I got my assessment positive as “Environmental Scientist” and now I am in the phase of selecting the Australian State/City I wish to move in. I have two options: South Australia (permanent visa subclass 190) or Regional Queensland (provisional visa subclass 489). Regional area means minus Brisbane and Gold Coast. By reading most of the above comments, I am more confused now.

Anyone who can give me some feedback on which option is better:

South Australia or Regional Queensland?

Your help will be highly appreciated.


Ian V September 17, 2015 at 9:54 pm

Here in Adelaide on holiday from London. Use to live here 25yrs ago and employment was tough then. After leaving school I lwas unemployed for 18months. After that I worked for 8yrs and had some brilliant jobs. I guess the point is that Adelaide has always had a difficult job market. But it is possible to find work and when you do this is a great place to be.


Jake September 15, 2015 at 10:26 pm

Hi Guys,

Been looking to move to Australia in around 3 years time and have fixated myself on Adelaide (affordability & location), however reading some other comments, it seems that the lack of job opportunity is a concern.

My initial plan was to take up a 6 month working visa & hopefully proceed onto a permanent residency thereafter. I’ve also opened a savings account & am hopeful of saving around £14K in those 3 years. Will this be enough?

I should mention that I’m a graphic designer so would like your opinion on the best places to work with the lowest living cost.

Any help is appreciated.



BobinOz September 17, 2015 at 4:12 pm

Jake, if you look closely, you’ll find that the vast majority of the negative comments about Adelaide are from one person, Pete. Not everybody agrees with him, check out the other comments.

That said, South Australia does currently have one of the highest, if not the highest unemployment rate in the country so it is prudent to be concerned about your chances of finding work. You can always use the links on my page called Getting a Job or a Sponsorship to search to see what opportunities might be available to you, and maybe one of the locals will chime in and help you out.

I can’t help you with your visa plans, that’s MARA agent territory, or your savings amount, I simply don’t know what you want it to be enough for? Moving to Australia is an expensive process, my advice is to save as much money as you can. How much will be enough is largely dependent on how quickly you find work and start earning money when you get here.

Good luck with your plans, Bob


Paul T September 17, 2015 at 8:13 pm

Hi Jake
Im a local and have posted a number of times. I have a friend that graduated from University a couple of years ago. It took her a few months to find a job in the graphic design field, but she is a bright and bubbly person and doesnt give up easily. Yes things are a little tougher here but there are still jobs available. You just need to market yourself and stand out from the crowd. People like that succeed anywhere !


pete September 10, 2015 at 1:19 am

Schools are generally good in adelaide, as you say you have to ask around, we had a lemon in our primary school, but the private girls school in the city was top notch.

If you mean Westminster in the city, fees for day is about 8K gbp per term, three terms = 24K, times 3 children is 75k odd without the extras, apply the south pacific peso fx rate, gives you almost 150Aud on kids schooling.

We live in the country outside london and I commute, kids love it, we live on a farm, i can start my day anywhere between 0730 and 1000, and leave anywhere between 1600 and 1800, I work from home when i want, I walk everywhere in london and it’s a fantastic city, elsewhere we bike, it’s about as stressful as you make it yourself, I enjoy it, the food, the museums, the art, there’s a real buzz, took the boys to see the red-arrows a few weeks ago, and it was just absolutely awesome. We’ve been to Spain, France and Ireland in as many months and it’s way cheaper to travel here than in Australia.

Final word, Adelaide *should* be an awesome city, Sadly but it’s not, it suffers from extreme nepotism and cronyism, a top heavy inept government who are milking the place dry, who are the largest employer in the state, sub-standard leadership pretty much across the board in government, significant child protection issues, significant lack of leadership and drive in public sector, a running scared private sector (who can blame them), a net drain in most of the capable people (young graduates leave first chance they get), Bikie gangs who can do what they want and a waiting ice pandemic on it’s doorstep and the government are clue-less to do anything about it, more and more immigrants who bet their last chance on a new beginning are realising that adelaide is not much fun without work and security.

Oh, and the adelaide boys club, the school network, which has done so much to make adelaide the way it is……… a huge underperforming city , scared and thrashing through it’s dead cat bounce. Did you see Rau is going to raise taxes on new residential developments to help pay for infrastructure ? Nice, it’s only going to get worse the SA government is almost bankrupt, and it’s too late to fix it.

Whatever you do Sarah, I wish you luck, just have a contingency, we did and we executed it , and London may not be the last place we stay, I hear adelaide is great for retiree’s :)


BobinOz September 17, 2015 at 4:05 pm

Well, I’ve been away on holiday for a couple weeks, looks like quite a lively conversation has been going on in my absence.

I’m back now, so I’m just going to add my 2 cents.

Pete, I get it. I lived in the UK for nearly 50 years, it’s got a lot going for it, mostly great access to Europe for all those lovely holidays you mention. I decided to move to Australia for several reasons though, the first of which was very simplistic, we simply wanted to try something different.

After nearly 50 years, we’d seen a great deal of Europe and the different cultures, we’d seen all of England, and we’d seen how it had changed over the years as all countries do. We’d also had just about enough of the grey and dull weather and we were looking to move to a country where we could have a much better outdoor life, open spaces, and beaches we could enjoy.

So we decided to move to Australia and after eight years of living here, we still have absolutely no regrets and we love this country and everything it has to offer.

What you have done is pretty much the same as what I have done, except the other way round. At the moment you are very much enjoying your new surroundings and new life, and why not, good luck to you. Sounds as though you are very much in the honeymoon period though, I went through the same thing for the first couple of years here, everything was great.

I now realise that not everything is great in Australia, some things really get up my nose, but I still prefer it here than in the UK and you couldn’t drag me back to that country.

In fact I am enjoying this country so much I feel compelled to blog about it on this website just to tell other people, people considering a move to this country, just how much I’m enjoying it and, hopefully, let them know a bit about what it’s really like.

What I don’t do though, and that’s where you and I are different, is spend enormous amounts of my time slating the UK, the country I have departed from and I really still don’t understand why you feel the need to do it about Adelaide here and continue to do it.

People looking to move to this country are just like you, they are looking for a change. Why are you so hellbent on trying to put them off? Maybe that’s something you should be thinking about, but I think most people here are pretty much fed up with you droning on about how terrible Adelaide is.

As my mum used to say, “you are beginning to sound like a stuck record.”


Sarah September 9, 2015 at 10:07 pm

Thanks Paul I needed a boost :-)

Pete I appreciate your comments and taking the time to respond too. I agree that it would be incredibly naive of us to assume that this will be a move to Utopia and hence understandably have concerns around an apparent lack of capital investment and growth. Interestingly, we are in a position of deciding between a move to London/South-east and SA and as a larger than average (6) family and with no offence intended to those who love it, London and all of its associated costs and pace does not personally appeal to us as a place to raise our family. Should we go with this option, it is likely that we will invest in a crash pad for my husband and the children and i remain up north!

The pace and discussions above around absence of culture in Adelaide are of little concern to me. Currently all of our lives are consumed by work, school, everyday tasks, extracurricular activities, clubs, and days out as a family…Adelaide appealed as a city where we might be able to land and find our feet with a focus on resettling the children in an environment that they would respond to without being overwhelmed.

Paul, thank you for taking the time to respond to my post and your well wishes. I’m reassured by your experiences and that you and your children have not struggled to find employment. Having googled it…while the UK unemployment figures are nationally around 5.4%, The North West, where we are currently is around 7.7% I agree that a positive approach and outlook has a huge impact upon your ability to find contentment. The long term prospects for my children are my biggest concern but am also a firm believer that as their parents, if my husband an i can find an environment with a good work-life balance and enjoying where we are then they are half way there. I do have concerns about future options and prospects for my kids. Going forward i think that we will compose a list of questions for the company that he is talking to around their own investments and views on development in SA and any triggers and exit strategies in their business plan.

Once again, i’m grateful for the replies and thanks again Bob, the forum for discussion is really beneficial when considering our decision.



Gareth September 10, 2015 at 12:31 am

Hi Sarah,

Born in England and immigrated 35 years ago. I have no fond memories of England, miserable weather, horrible food, awful dentists and bullies at each school. Haven’t even bothered to go back for a holiday. My family have, but the tidings they bring back pretty much assures me I have made the right choice not wasting money.

I’d like to put you on the right track by stating that everything you read on the interwebs may or may not be the truth, resemble the truth or have any truth what so ever associated with it. Hard and fast rule is to do your own research and take anecdotal stories as here say and embellished. I know for a fact if a Victorian ever found this web site they would all put down S.S, just as any one from Sydney would put down Melbourne. It’s the Australian way. Anyone who made the move from Sydney to Adelaide and expected to make the same money as they are making in Sydney mus have rocks in their head, and any one who thinks they can go to Sydney and live on an Adelaide budget is equally stupid.

As for the statement that Adelaide has no culture, or that the culture we have is temporary is equally ho hum. I remember going to the Womad festival when I was nine years old. The Fringe has been a huge hit year in year out, and Clipsal beats the Grand Prix for crowds and revenue. You can not book a room in an Adelaide hotel from January through to the end of March when the Tour Down Under finishes. No, the Tour Down Under is not going to Melbourne, they have committed long term to Adelaide. Adelaide is renown for a mad festive season for four solid months from Christmas. But that’s just the main festivals. What the hipsters seem to neglect to tell you, is that if you actually leave the CBD, there is life! We have significant wine festivals and vintage festivals through the year, these aren’t temporary either, they have been going for longer than 25 years. We have Farmers markets sprouting up in all regions, and through the hills we have country fairs nearly every weekend. There’s a web site dedicate to this. No, there is a lot of culture here in SA, its only people without culture who do not see it. We have cultural festivals from Italian, Greek, Hungarian through the Nepalese. I think most the people who live in Burnside think the Burnside Shopping centre is the centre of the universe and their BMW might get dusty if they drive it some where else.

If your husband has been offered a job, and the company a reputable, then you have no fear of the employment situation. Yes it is tight here, but what keeps being neglected to mention is that most of the job losses are in the mining sector and the car manufacturing sector. If you think some one who puts rims on a Commodore or drives a B Double into a pit might threaten your husbands position, then best stay in London. As I have pointed out there is work here, just check and look for the jobs that you are both qualified for. I do contract work, haven’t been an employee for nine years and have gone from middle lower class well up the ladder due to giving it the good old British try. Would I invest here? Sure would, developing a business plan for assisting retirees cope with the future, worth around $7.5m. Of course, I’m one of the “if you can, do” not one of the “if you can’t, teach” people.

I think you only have to look at how many times Adelaide rates in the top ten as one of the best cities in the world to live and work in, look at the cost of living against what you have and other places you want to go. My guess is when you lob here, you aren’t going to sink money into buying a house straight away, you will probably rent, and rent isn’t too bad here. Try for rental accommodation availability.
Compare the price of fuel, milk, meat, bread and wine (don’t forget the wine, and not the cheap Jacobs Creek you are paying a mint for over there, something drinkable). I regularly visit McLaren Vale wineries and purchase good Shiraz and Sauvignon Blanc for under $100 a case (Look up Geoff Hardy as a wine maker, great wines, great prices).

As for schools, I put my kids through private school, cost around $8k per year each. My sister is putting her three through Westminster and that’s costing her $60k a year. My boy is now at Uni doing a double degree, and taking Japanese privately, having been offered cadet ships at KPMG and with the government. I don’t see the value in spending $60k a year, but if you’ve got it, what the heck. For the most part, the school doesn’t make as much difference as the kids attitude. There are fantastic public schools in SA as well as well priced private and religious institutions. Its easy to find the good ones, just ask other parents, but there is also a number of web sites that grade schools or review their overall performances.

They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I say what is one mans lamb is another mans mutton. Adelaide can be a great place to live and bring up kids, London, mmm, not my cup of tea.

Happy to help you with any further details and my email address is in the avatar I think, if not just reply and I’ll send you what factual information I can find for you.

I only work four hours a day, I have time to yank some ones chain while they are getting bangers, mash and boiled veg seven nights a week.


Pete September 9, 2015 at 6:10 pm

Paul, lol, no need to feel sorry for me, I’ve moved the entire family up to the UK, my kids are all Aussie by the way and even they disliked adelaide (we came from Sydney after 8 years, spent 3 in adelaide) they love it here, I find the schools where we are to be better than the ones in adelaide (except the adelaide private school we sent our daughter to, that was very good) I’m turning down work in London, and our house here is a comfortable 3.5 ratio to income rather than “cheap” adelaide at a ratio of 5.4.

Yeah, sure there is work in Adelaide, what kind and for how long ? I’m no lightweight when it comes to experience, but there are significant problems that need to be addressed with adelaide and the South Australian state, it won’t be fixed overnight, it will take years, and people should know this before they move there.

and bob, look at my ratio of posts per day, I think you’ll find it’s lower than you think


Paul T September 9, 2015 at 10:13 pm

Hi Pete
I’m truly glad its working out for you and the family in the UK. My parents left in the late 1960’s but I have relatives there still (cousins) that used to write to my parents and tell them how bad its was, and how lucky we were to live in Australia. Each to his/her own I guess?
As I have mentioned a number of times, Adelaide and SA have been good to me and my family. I paid off my mortgage 10 years ago, so I guess house/earnings ratios etc. are not that important to me anymore, but I understand they may be to others contemplating a move here?
From what I read on this forum, many (if not most) of the people posting are pretty much already committed to moving here anyway, one way or another, so pulling out may not even be an option for them?
As also mentioned in a previous post, I married an Italian lady, and also have a Greek son-in-law. Things are pretty grim in both those countries from what we hear from family members that live there, and what we see on the nightly news. I still feel blessed that I live where I do. Cheers and good luck into the future.


Pete September 9, 2015 at 11:29 pm

Thanks for the kind response Paul, to put some figures on it, we had over 500K equity on a 750k property in adelaide , which when we lived in sydney for 8 years we did not even notice the money, we moved back in 2012 (I married an adelaide girl) to slow the pace, but there was no work and we found it very cliquish , not friendly in the least , work, or what was was dreadfully underpaid and lead by people who are incompetent (the job market in adelaide is stagnant, so nobody moves on, and nobody improves), not only is there no investment in growth, there is no investment in people, I saw 2 managers get knocked back on a 5K training course by a clown director who pays 16K a year for his parking space????? what century is adelaide living in ?? Since we are a family of 5, one with a disability and we found the schools leadership quite inept and out of their depth (eastern suburbs), only when a “fixit” team of ex northern suburbs (code for experienced and competent) headteacher and support staff did that school improve, but by then we were committed to leaving. We had no holidays in adelaide and we still lost the equity in the house (that’s what being out of work for 18 months does), burnside local council is corrupt and or inept, and we had to take them to the ombudsman (which we won), adelaide was simply just not worth the effort for us.

My kids are thriving in their schools in the south east, we’ve been on more holidays/adventures in the last 5 months than in 3 years in adelaide and I can see options and a future for my kids, whereas in adelaide I saw none.

The maturity of Adelaide as a business centre is simply not there, it’s all temporary initiatives (tour down under – clipsal, fringe, show, etc), this is what a scared and risk adverse culture does, it does not commit, there are some large infrastructure projects, but these are debt funded by the taxpayer, which is you. What else is there to support the economy, Nuclear is at least 15 years away , if that can even be worked through, Shipbuilding won’t happen again until 2020, if abbot is to be believed, and by then all the skills will have gone, education (don’t get me started) is simply commoditising the education system, which each successive wave of degree, or mba’s lowering the standard (I know , i was a mentor on one masters program), Housing prices are cheaper, but not that cheaper than the UK, ratio means a lot, as well as outlook, and I’ve never felt more positive since moving away from adelaide, I guess it’s just a toxic place for us, so we left.


Paul September 9, 2015 at 10:45 am

Sorry should have mentioned. I have previously posted as ‘Paul’ and also Paul T’.


Paul September 9, 2015 at 7:42 am

Hi Sarah

No offence taken by this local. I have posted a number of times before, so I won’t bore you with all the details again, maybe just scroll back and read some of my previous posts?
But to recap: I have lived here since coming to Adelaide with my parents from the UK at age 13, I turn 60 in Feb 2016. I love Adelaide and so do my 3 adult (2 married) children, even though 2 of them have travelled overseas to Asia and Europe a few times now. All are employed, and so are their partners. There really are jobs in Adelaide Lol! While the 7.3% unemployment rate is the worst in Australia, the defining question should be ‘compared to what?’ Australia is one of the few countries to have weathered the Global Financial Crisis quite well, and the reverse of the equation is that 92.7% of South Australia ARE employed (either full time or part time) or still at school/studying, or not otherwise even looking for work?
Don’t let extreme negatives from people like Pete scare you. Poor bloke, has left SA and possibly even Australia, but instead of praising the virtues of his new location, seems to get his kicks continually putting down poor old SA? Thanks Bob for your comments, I had not visited this forum for a while as I was tired of reading his usual diatribe, me being a generally positive kind of person. Sarah if you are a ‘generally positive kind of person’ odds are that you will love the many lifestyle benefits our State has to offer, and I have found it a great place to live and raise my family. I am sure it will be a ‘BIG’ move and somewhat of an upheaval, but your husband already having a job to come too, will make a huge difference, and should see you and the family off to a flying start, Cheers and best of luck with your move. Paul & Family.


Sarah September 9, 2015 at 1:31 am

Hi folks

Bob, thank you so much for your site, i have found it invaluable when researching a possible move to Australia for our family later this year. My husband has been offered a job in SA and we have to decide whether to take the plunge and accept it. Initially i was reassured by researching Adelaide as a city to raise a large young family, with better comparable living costs and house prices than other cities. The move would be sponsored by his employer and he would be on a fairly reasonable wage but upon further reading (above comments included) i’m obviously concerned about the state economy and longer term prospects …we are not planning a temporary move for a few years and were looking at permanent relocation…i don’t wish to trail 4 children back and forth between countries.

Is there anyone out there who has made the move successfully or is living in SA and can advise on local economic development policies to tackle the apparently obvious issues around lack of opportunity and investment? Apologies if this post offends, its just a massive decision and i want to be as informed as possible


Pete September 7, 2015 at 4:41 pm

South Australian Economy crumbles…..



BobinOz September 8, 2015 at 4:29 pm

Pete, I’ve deactivated your link, it’s subscription only, so most people cannot access it.

I also have to ask you, why are you dedicating so much of your time to continually put down Adelaide? You’ve even been asked by Peter to give it a rest, but you keep on and on.

We get it, you think Adelaide has nothing to offer, but crikey, you’re like a dog with a bone, you just won’t let it go. I value your comments and your contribution, but I’m not much into repetition. We’ve got your message, thanks.



Naresh September 4, 2015 at 2:36 pm

Hey everyone,

After reading the comments from everyone, I am kind of curious to know about the job opportunities in the field of Customer Service Manager. I have got the state sponsorship for SA for this role and wandering if I would get a decent job market. I am planning to move by the end of Sep 15. I have applied for almost every job online but didnt get positive response so far. Can any advise the ways to go about it.


Ravi September 5, 2015 at 10:39 am

Hi Naresh,

As you have read earlier in the blogs, the job market for SA is not that good at all…
You will definitely wont be getting into any job from offshore by online application, this is from my experience I am telling you. About Customer Service Manager….I would like to make it very clear that whatever overseas experience we have is of no value unless you get some kind of reference here in that field.
You have to have a fair amount of luck to get into your own field of work. I think you will have to invest in some sort of certificate course…gain some local experience and then try to venture in your field of expertise. Linkedin should help I suppose, but again its the luck factor to be very honest.
Wish You All the Best…


Pete August 31, 2015 at 7:23 pm

Gareth, really? an actual cleaner, or a manager , or a supervisor ? and how many hours do they work per annum, or are they paid on a fixed price, and do they then sub contract to below-minimum teams ?

It is clear from reading that all ideas and economic strategies are to put it mildly at sixes and sevens, that is to say, wholly disorganised and amateurish, from signalling that a SA world wide Nuclear Dump will save the state, to Foodtrucks on victoria square will (sic) save the city ??? to adelaide being a start-up nucleus of the world ? to a major announcement that Lidl is now recruiting ?

It only takes simple and honest look to see that the place is panicking, no leadership, no people, anyone with any ambition has left or is already leaving.

This is what mature nepotism and croynism looks like : a failed city


Gareth September 1, 2015 at 11:03 am

Yes Pete, an actual cleaner. Not a supervisor, or a manager. They are on a fixed price. No they do not sub out their work at all.

Interesting you say about the start ups, I started my business in 2012 and have a very profitable business, and now looking to sell so I can start up a new business.

I’m not arguing with you that SA is bleak right now, but have a look at the rest of the country.
WA – $2 Billion in debt and drowning.
NT – Changing leadership constantly and Members becoming independent to break away.
Queensland – third government in three terms, rising unemployment, hammered by greenies and Unions with shadows of corruption over them.
NSW – Economy going great after fighting of corruption in the leadership, but who can afford to live there?
Canberra – Not the first, second or third choice of anyone wanting to come to Australia.
Victoria – not doing too bad but still rising costs of living and you have to travel from remote reaches to get any where there are jobs.
Tasmania – Great if you are self employed, working for the government, hospitality or agriculture, and you can break through the “hire from within” policy.

So you see, SA is stuck in the same toilet bowl every other state is,being flushed by an incompetent Federal government.

Ask yourself, what are the options? Go some where more expensive on the chance you might get a job (and keep it) or try to make the best of what we have here.

Obviously you have already left though from your many posts on how bad the situation here is.


Ravi September 5, 2015 at 10:41 am

Hi Gareth,

Are you hiring for any positions in your organisation?



Gareth September 6, 2015 at 5:58 pm

Sorry Ravi, we currently do not have any vacancies at present. As mentioned business is slowing down in Adelaide and I am ensuring my cleaners have sufficient work such they do not have to look to other sources and on the off chance leave.


Scott August 30, 2015 at 9:36 pm

That is a great link Bob, I heard WA was on the decline because of the mining industry too. I lived through the boom, and I think what happens is all the people who moved there and lost their contracts are now seeking employment in the city which means more competition for jobs, and less jobs in the mining section.

I would have to admit, if you can earn a good income in Adelaide you can live a great lifestyle, but that is a BIG if depending on your skills.


Gareth August 30, 2015 at 9:55 pm

Scott, I have cleaners in my organisation earning over $120,000 p/a it’s more so what you are willing to do to achieve your goals, than the opportunities you wait to be put before you.


Scott September 6, 2015 at 3:51 pm

The cleaners who make that sort of money I would assume the figure is on paper only. If they are employing other people or have some high annual expenses, I find it hard to believe that a cleaner in Adelaide is making about $1800 per week after tax.


Gareth September 6, 2015 at 6:07 pm

You know what they say when you assume Scott. Their (husband & wife) annual invoice total comes to $128,457.98. They do not subcontract as the sites they work at require online inductions, gate checks and signing in with admin on a daily basis. Should they some how get past the gate, the admin would not let them start work without the credentials.

When I first got into the cleaning game as an account manager for a larger company, I took on cleaning jobs on top of my daily duties. Annual salary as contract manager $50,000 p/a. Annual cleaning invoices on top of the $68,000.

Why work behind a counter at a petrol station, or drive a cab for less than $15.00 an hour when if you have an eye for detail and determination not to struggle through life, and take work either part time or full time as a cleaner.

Or as the guy from Gillette used to say, “I was so happy I bought the company”.


Gareth September 6, 2015 at 6:12 pm

and part B of your statement:
No equipment required other than usual cleaning chemicals and vacuum cleaners, mops and buckets. Cleaning chemicals usually equate to 2% of your annual turn over. I don’t know what they do about tax, that is their business, but it would be expected on that amount, with a Family Trust, they could be paying in the 22 cents in the dollar depending on the other deductions they could come up with to reduce cost.


Pete September 8, 2015 at 4:23 am

after GST and expenses , that’s about 55K gross odd per person, not to mention cleaners can’t work daytime normal hours, so most of the work would be out of hours and weekends. Gareth, it’s fantastic that you are providing work, but…….. and it’s an important but……, people with skill-sets and experience that they’ve put decades of sweat , work , money and effort into, simply cannot afford to swap their chits in for a cleaning job, if this is what Adelaide offers, then there’s a serious problem.

The people you need, are the people with risk appetite, innovation experience , honesty and an environment conducive to this, what use Mcgyver in a desert, he may have potential, but it’s still a desert.

Adelaide is self limiting and I think it’s about to realise that. The place is appallingly miss managed and it is beginning to manifest this.


Gareth September 8, 2015 at 9:36 am

Good morning Pete,

$55k is what I believe the average Australian income is now, so $55k for cleaning, a job without prerequisites and education, isn’t a bad option. The point of my post was to point out that, if required you can make a living and feed the family in Adelaide if you are willing to take up cleaning as an either additional job, or in a worse case scenario when you can not get anything else, not for everyone to down tools and take up cleaning instead of their normal occupation.

The problem with Adelaide, and slowly Australia, is that the mass population believe we are all entitled to live in a golden age forever, live on hand outs and that its our governments responsibility to give us jobs that pay well, require few work hours and with no accountability.

Hard working, open minded Australians are hard to come by so I welcome immigrants who, with families to feed and lives to build, will take the jobs I offer.

As for cleaners not being able to work through the day, our company bills out over 600 hours per week and 65% is cleaned between the hours of 7.30 am and 4 pm.

Adelaide is not self limiting, but many of the people of Adelaide are.


Gareth September 8, 2015 at 3:36 pm

..also, those figures are GST Exclusive :)


Woj August 17, 2015 at 9:12 pm

First of all, Bob and Scott – thanks for your helpfull replies!!

Im not sticking no matter what to those three destinations, Im just trying to do as much research as I can to try and make the best possible choice for the Family and me. Ive read a bit into Adelaide (even joined a forum) and have read exactly what you have portrayed, and that is that Adelaide at the moment is really bad when it comes to employment. So, Im keeping my eyes open and trying to find out as much as I can before we make the big move. Even yesterday, a friend of mine wrote me and proposed that I read up on newcastle a little as in her mind, it has potential and is a completely different city than the one I remember from 20 years ago. Sooo, for the next few days I’ll be trying to get as much info as I can about it :) Ahh, the wonders of internet.. :)


BobinOz August 18, 2015 at 11:54 pm

I’ve not actually been to Newcastle, but I have driven through the area, I really liked it around that way. Newcastle did well in an Australian poll as well…

I think above although, you need to go to somewhere where you would feel most confident about securing work. I reckon most of our cities are extremely liveable, but things always go better when you have an income. Much better.

Good luck, Bob


Wojtek August 16, 2015 at 9:05 pm

Hi Bob

I’ve written a couple of times before as I had a few questions regarding the Sunshine coast and Perth. Me and my family (my wife and I and our two children aged 3 and 6 when we come down) are flying down to Oz one way next September. I was considering the sunshine coast and Perth, as we will be lookig for a place where the rent and property prices arent through the roof (so Sydney is def out of the question) and also, we dont want the husstle and busstle of city life. We prefer a place which is safe, laid back and a great place to bring up kids. The Sunshine coast from what I have read, might have a problem with work? Its not developing as fast as other places and living there, would probably expect to drive a fair distance to get to work. So thats a minus. thought intensively about Perth, but yesterday we met friends who lived in Australia for quite a while and said that Adelaide is marvelous! Laid back, safe, and s developing very well. Do you have any info as to that? And how can you compare the 3 places: Sunshine, Perth and Adelaide? I still have a year, but in that time want to find out as much as I can because when we fly down to whichever of thse places, we want to live there, and not come to the conclusuion that it was a bad choice and feel that we have to pack the kids, look for a new place and school etc..
Any info would be greatly appreciated!


Scott August 16, 2015 at 10:10 pm

I am not Bob but here is some information.

Excluding Sunshine Coast, the main differences between Perth and Adelaide is the housing prices are much higher in Perth but the economy is allot better and WA has the lowest unemployment rate in Australia if I am not mistaken.
Adelaide gets cold in the winters, while Perth it rains more all year round and has more sunshine and hot weather in the Summer. Perth is very isolated if you want to travel in Australia, while parts of WA are very nice. Adelaide is closer to the bigger cities and Queensland for vacation.
Adelaide is a slower paced and probably safer city, while clinging to a country town type of mentality (which used to exist in Perth), where people have the same friends since they were kids and living in the same areas they grew up in. You really need to network your way into employment sometimes.

Ideally I would say visit each city and get a feel for the two, if you do not enjoy cold winters then avoid Adelaide, its much colder during the day than in Perth. On the flipside Perth has hotter and longer summers, so avoid Perth if you cannot afford air conditioning in the house and car. From I non-biased opinion its hard to separate the two because Perth is the better city, but due to the geographical location I would rate them the same. Just be warned Adelaide is in a job crisis, depending on what jobs you are looking for, SA is on the decline with unemployment the highest in 15 years.


BobinOz August 17, 2015 at 8:24 pm

Just to update on Scott’s helpful reply to you, Perth maybe used to be the place with the lowest unemployment, it isn’t now. The mining industry is going through a really bad time at the moment and unemployment in WA is rising.

In fact, I’d say you’ve chosen three of the worst locations in Australia at the moment for employment as things aren’t good in Adelaide or the Sunshine Coast either. If I were you, I’d have a good read of the following post…

And download the freely available report you can get from it. You will also see a link on that page to last year’s report, it makes an interesting comparison and shows you how things are constantly changing.

Hope that helps a bit and good luck. Bob


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