Australian Visas and Expression Of Interest (EOI): Caution!

by BobinOz on July 2, 2012

in Moving To Australia

On 1 July 2012 Expression of Interest or EOI came into play and the very next day, on 2 July 2012 I wrote this post about it. This post is still relevant today and from time to time I do update the information where necessary. The last update took place 4 July 2014.

Every year the Department of Immigration & Border Control (DIBP) reviews and revises the visa application process. They look at the jobs on the skills list, how the points are allocated and the whole process of making the visa application.

Then they tweak it all and come up with some new rules and procedures and announce them, usually, on July 1.

Expression of Interest or EOI

Here’s the process step-by-step, I’ll explain each stage in a minute:

Skills Select

  • Expression of Interest
  • Getting picked from the pool

Expression of Interest

Skilled applicants will be able to go online and enter their own EOI. The information they will be required to input will be quite thorough, equivalent to the six pages worth of information required to complete a Visa Assessment here on BobinOz.

Getting picked from the pool

Technically, you could get picked out of the pool by any one of Australia’s states or territories who require your skills, or any employer, or even DIBP themselves. You will get an invitation if you are nominated by the states or territories or if your occupation is on the SOL and you meet the qualification criteria you will receive an invitation directly from SkillSelect. You can still find your own sponsor and it is probably advisable to continue looking for one as nobody is really sure just how many states or employers will be scanning this system for people.

Once you are selected or have found your own sponsor, you move to the next stage.

Visa Application:

  • Pay the Visa Application Charge (VAC)
  • Your information is then verified
  • Fast track to Australia

So, what happens at each stage? It’s all still a bit daunting, and in places there is still uncertainty, but this is how we think it works.

Once you have been invited – by either Skillselect for an independent visa or invited on the basis of a state or territory nomination, you move to the next stage.

You have 60 days in which to apply after being selected. The great thing about this process is it is fast!

Pay Visa Application Charge (VAC)

Of course, your visa application will have a fee involved, payable to the Australian Government. You will be required to pay this fee with your application.

Your information is then verified

Remember that EOI you completed online a while back? I hope you didn’t tell any little white lies on it. I remember going for a job interview when I was about 18 years of age. Of course, I had a CV prepared. I never much liked the section called “Hobbies and Interests”, at the time mine were going to the pub, getting drunk and partying.

That’s not what a prospective employer wants to see, is it?

So I put sport and photography.

The interview went well, but right at the end, the interviewer said “So, what camera do you use?”

I looked at him in utter bewilderment; I’d forgotten my own hobbies. He reminded me of what I’d put on my CV and asked again what camera I used.

“It’s just a normal camera.” I said weakly.

Yes, many of us can tell little white lies to get that job on occasions.

DON’T DO IT!!

Not on an EOI. I will explain why under the pitfalls below.

Fast track to Australia

Yay! If all goes well, you will be in Australia in no time. But what about…

The pitfalls!

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When you complete your EOI online, there are no checkpoints in it. If you want to put yourself down as a brain surgeon with 15 years experience, you can. You can create a profile with 100 points if you want.

The system will accept it and place you in a queue.

Obviously, nobody in their right mind would do that, but maybe you’d be tempted to say you have four years experience when you have just over three? Or to say you have a qualification when you are still waiting for the result of that exam?

No, you wouldn’t do that, would you?

How about this then? There is a tick box somewhere along the line asking if you have had your skill assessed by the relevant authority. Maybe you are in the process of doing that, maybe you are thinking of doing it, maybe you tick yes.

Maybe you enter any kind of information into this document that isn’t quite correct. What happens?

If you enter incorrect information:

  • You are automatically refused when the discrepancy comes to light.
  • You will lose your Visa Application Charge fee.
  • You could possibly be banned from reapplying for three years.

The Australian government have a great migration blog to help you, I suggest that in particular you read their post called Busting the myths about SkillSelect for more information.

The EOI that you complete online is a legal document, please complete it with 100% accuracy, or you could be very sorry indeed.

As I have said already, you can enter the information for your EOI yourself. At this stage, it appears that non-MARA registered migration agents can also charge you a fee to help you with this process.

“Yah, I’m an expert EOI form filler, here’s my card :-). I can fill it in properly for you for just $300!”

Kerching!

If you do not want to fill in this form yourself, and you do want help, I strongly suggest that you use only a professional MARA registered migration agent or a qualified lawyer. It’s a legal document and great care has to be taken when completing it.

There are other pitfalls as well.

Let’s suppose there are 40,000 skilled jobs required in Australia for 2012 to 2013. Let’s say, for example, that 500 of those jobs are for accountants.

When those 500 accountants have been accepted through the whole process, no more accountants will be needed. But that information is not made public anywhere, accountants can still enter their EOI.

Some good news

It’s not all bad news, here are some little snippets of good news.

  • The points target has now been reduced to 60.
  • Students studying here who successfully gain a bachelor’s or Masters degree Ph.D. will automatically qualify for an 18 month working visa on completion.
  • Students will also qualify for an additional five points for studying here for a minimum of two years.
  • The new system is geared more towards a faster acceptance of those looking to get a 457 visa.

The downside

It will now be slightly harder for those who are hoping to come here directly on a Permanent Residency visa as preference will be given to those with sponsorships.

There is more, much more. But I think that’s enough for now.

Visit: SkillSelect for more details and to submit your EOI.

Comments: Please read…

Since this post went live on July 2, 2012 it has attracted a huge amount of interest and, at the time of writing this, 370 odd comments.

It is obvious that this process, Expression of Interest, is hugely confusing and many of you are having problems with it. Almost all of the comments below are questions about this process.

I would need to be a MARA registered migration agent to know the answers to these questions and I’m not. The above article was written after I had spoken at length to a professional MARA agent, for any of you who have read the article, you probably now know as much about EOI as I do.

I am keeping comments open on this post, but I will not be able to answer any questions. Hopefully somebody else who does know might pop by with an answer, but I would also suggest that you do have a quick look at all the comments that have already been made as your question may have already been covered.

Good luck to you all,

Bob

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Passenger July 6, 2012 at 3:03 am

if someone files more than one EOIs to get themselves pickup on multiple type of visas at the same time, could the system be intelligent enough to identify such candidates? The rule doesn’t prohibits submitting multiple EOIs actually.

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BobinOz July 6, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Interesting question. I’m trying to find out and will hopefully get back to you.

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raj July 18, 2012 at 4:30 am

in the govt immigration website it says u r actually allowed to file more then one EOI for each different class of visa, and when one gets picked, the other EOI’s are automatically invalid, i guess they use the passport number as the unique identifier ….

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raj July 18, 2012 at 4:33 am

sorry, i let some ambiguity creep into my earlier statement, i meant….u can file one EOI for each type of visa , and when/if one of them gets picked, the other EOI’s (if any) will be rendered invalid, the first one that gets picked will be eligible to proceed to the next stage….

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BobinOz July 18, 2012 at 8:15 pm

Thanks raj, that’s useful to know.

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Caroline de Kock November 28, 2012 at 2:11 pm

Can you tell me where it says this as I can’t find it anywhere. My EOI has been blocked because I got an invitation to apply under 489 family sponsored visa but I have since received sponsorship from Victoria so I want to apply under visa 190 which is my preferred visa. I’m not sure whether to just wait out the 60 days for the 489 invitation to lapse or if I should do another EOI for the 190 visa. Thanks.

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Passenger July 6, 2012 at 2:44 pm

another concern is that invalid EOIs with high scores could exhaust the invitations easily.. that’s kind of DDoS attack…

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MARA Miki July 6, 2012 at 11:04 pm

Hi Passenger,

The EOI system is rather dumb. It does not validate data, or compares anything, but you are signing a declaration that you submitted valid and accurate info. I’ve explained Bob the downfalls, and i believe he did post a blog regarding the issues one can face.
There was over 60000 application lodged within 4 days (as far as i know) and i would say 10-20% maybe valid….
I leave the rest to your imagination

Brgds

Miki

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Passenger July 7, 2012 at 12:35 am

it should be simple to validate the consistency of the data as many fields should be unique. If not you might see that invitations are sent to many Mr Non-Existence at the highest ranking who will never lodge but hold the invitations for 60 days. Those authentic candidates who should have been selected might be kept out of invitations during that time. It is a tragedy for those at the edge of next age group.

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BobinOz July 9, 2012 at 3:25 pm

I think it is fair to say there are many pitfalls to this new EOI setup that, hopefully, DIAC will iron out as they go along. I certainly do not believe it’s the finished product as it stands.

I think the best thing, as with most things, is to play it straight. Who knows, those submitting multiple applications may find themselves getting banned later, even though that doesn’t appear to be against the rules at the moment.

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Passenger July 9, 2012 at 4:01 pm

There are two things. Those submitting multiple EOIs can be identified. Those submitting fake information with high scores cannot be identified but they will take up the limited invitations for up to 2 months as they are showing to be at the highest ranking. Unless there are online validation of assessment result or IELTS result, Invitations are sent to those invalid EOIs and candidates who should have been selected are kept out.

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BobinOz July 10, 2012 at 12:09 pm

Not good, is it?

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raj July 18, 2012 at 2:16 am

ummmm im one such guys who will fall into the ‘next age group’ in the coming 5 months (jan 1st week 2013) , hopefully ill be picked by then from the pool and invited to apply, lets see how it goes

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Sohail July 11, 2012 at 5:49 am

Hi I just want to know whether filing of EOI has any charge/fee. I assumed the fees mentioned is for the visa which is payable once the EOI is selected.

I am comparing it with New Zealand system where EOI filing has also a fee but major amount is paid once the EOI is selected for the visa application.

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BobinOz July 11, 2012 at 8:53 pm

No, I don’t think there is a fee, it would probably be better if there was one. People would then be able to put in spoof applications unless they have money to burn.

Maybe the Australians will take a leaf out of NZ’s book and charge a fee, makes sense.

I have now added a link at the foot of the above article to SkillsSelect for anyone wanting further details or to add their EOI.

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chandima July 13, 2012 at 3:49 am

Well there is no fee for EOI, I have filed my EOI and only concern is about how the state sponsorship system will work. Each state is asking to apply with them too. On submitting multiple EOI’s i think it should be able detect the duplicate entries via their admin program as the submission have a unique identifier, which is there passport ID.Just an assumption from my side though

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BobinOz July 13, 2012 at 2:56 pm

So if you are happy to move anywhere in Australia, you have to submit one EOI for each state? That doesn’t sound like a good idea!

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chandima July 14, 2012 at 4:47 am

Yes, there is an option to select any state. But the state websites says they will give preference to people who selected their state. So it doesn’t sound correct at all.

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BobinOz July 16, 2012 at 5:43 pm

Not helpful, is it? But it probably is correct, sounds like they want candidates to choose one state only.

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raj July 17, 2012 at 4:49 am

I have a question, under the new/changed rules, if i select a state sponsorship and IF i am approved for visa, am i required to live and work in the state that sponsored me for 2 years or can i live and work anywhere in OZ right from the start of my visa?

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BobinOz July 17, 2012 at 9:37 pm

I’m pretty sure that is the case, as far as I am aware.

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joeblack August 13, 2012 at 3:21 pm

hi,

I completed the EOI and I’m applying for 189 Visa however; after the last stage I got a message saying “The clients nominated occupation is not on the relevant occupation list for this subclass”.

I have all things ready, my occupation assessed by vetasses is in SOL 2.

I actually don’t know what to do and how to proceed with my application.

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BobinOz August 14, 2012 at 1:15 am

I have no idea with that one either joeblack, hopefully someone else might come along and help you out with this. Or, is it not possible to raise this issue with SkillSelect?

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bmc_cpu August 17, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Hi,

I have a question too. What if there was a slight inconsistency in the dates on your Education? Say, you were already invited, so the EOI is frozen(you cannot do changes), and you confirmed that the official start date based on your school calendar was a week earlier than what you placed in the EOI, should you place the correct date in the Visa Application or just follow the one in the EOI? WIll this even matter? Thanks

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BobinOz August 17, 2012 at 4:30 pm

I’d be guessing on this one, so your guess is as good as mine. I really can’t believe anyone would quibble over one week, but I’m too scared to advise you on this one in case I get it wrong and ruin everything for you.

But I really can’t believe it will make any difference either way. Good luck!

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bmc_cpu August 17, 2012 at 6:42 pm

I decided to stick to what I put on the EOI. Anyway, I have no documents(TOR or Diploma) which indicate the specific start date but only the graduation date and I remembered that I really started a week later due to some events , and maybe I could use this as a reason later on if they will really ask about it. By the way, thanks for the reply.

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BobinOz August 18, 2012 at 7:29 pm

That’s probably what I would have done too, I’m sure you’ll be okay. Good luck!

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ASif September 1, 2012 at 6:22 pm

Hi,
if i submit my EOI and after that i can update my education in it and is there any chance i did not select or rejected. so i can sumbit again EOI.

Normaly how long we have to Waite for it.
We have to attached the copies also with EOI.?
if i slecet in EOI then is there any requirement of Agent then also or there is step by step which i can follow and get my goal.

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BobinOz September 3, 2012 at 4:27 pm

I’m not really sure about any of that I’m afraid Asif.

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Cyborg September 3, 2012 at 6:29 pm

Dears, after reading all of the above comments I feel I am the most stupid person on earth :P … lol … why I say that is because of my current situation.

I am a qualified chartered accountant and that degree is equivalent to Masters in my country. While when I assessed it it is equivalent to Australian Bachelors degree. Now while completing my EOI I mistakenly chose Masters degree as my highest qualification and on the basis of which I got a score of 70. I got an invite to apply for the visa and I did according to my Skillselect profile. I realised this mistake after making payment for visa fees and while providing supporting documentation.

What is my way out here? It offcourse was an honest mistake and I even submitted Form 1023 (Incorrect information) to rectify it. I haven’t received any response yet. But do any of you have any idea whats gonna happen?

Sorry for the lengthy comment, but the situation demanded it !

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BobinOz September 3, 2012 at 9:20 pm

Well, I’m not really sure how you reverse out that one. The information I have, which I’ve included in the above post, suggests you might well be in a bit of trouble and could possibly get banned.

I hope I’m wrong, and I hope Form 1023 that you have now submitted might get you out of trouble. Sorry I can’t be more helpful, but I would love to know how this thing turns out for you.

If you get the chance, please pop back and tell us as this would be useful information for us all. Good luck!

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Raj September 8, 2012 at 12:36 am

Cyborg,
It all depends on how they view your honest mistake (whether it is a serious infraction or a minor mistake in their opinion). But bear in mind that in the event that u r “excused”, your Invitation to apply WILL be revoked since u r down by a full 10 points.

These are the 2 likely scenarios here
1) You might again have to “queue up in line” to be chosen again with the current score of 60 points.
2) IF they view it as a serious issue, then u know the drill
( but i honestly doubt this since the way i see it , it is a miscalculation rather then a deliberate attempt to show something that u dont have in the first place, like a fake degree , so i have a feeling u will be fine as far as being allowed to re-apply goes)
There is a reason for having that Form 1023 included this EOI process, they rightly realized that on occasion people do tend to make mistakes and miscalculations and should be given a chance to rectify that.
HOWEVER having said that, I am not sure if it holds true for ALL/EVERY mistake one might make during the application process. Better hope that whoever reviews your case will understand your predicament and let u re-apply /queue up again :)
Good luck !

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Furqan September 8, 2012 at 4:43 pm

RAJ,

Thanks, yeah I am hoping they would take it leniently as I do have a formal qualification. And bytheway the points difference is only 5 as far as the Bachelors is compared with the Masters. I don’t really have any problems in getting into queue again. Infact I can even claim points for my partners qualification if they really press on the same score. Lets see .. cheers !

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Furqan October 16, 2012 at 10:16 pm

Hi Bob and Raj,

An update:

I have finally succeeded in getting my application withdrawn without any ban. Although I am not been refunded my visa application fees :)

Anyways, I will try again in a while with some additional points for Partner qualification and additional experience.

Wish me luck !

Furqan

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BobinOz October 17, 2012 at 10:25 pm

For those confused, Cyborg = Furqan, anyway…

Good to hear it Furqan, and thanks for coming back to let us know. Hopefully your next application will run a little smoother.

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Furqan December 17, 2012 at 6:55 pm

Hi BobinOz,

I just received an email from the Immigration Department and they have accepted the refund of my visa application charges :) Although I wrote off the amount completely but this will definitely help me in applying again, sooner then I currently planned.

Just thought that I would inform you guys that refund procedure is there and is quite simple as well.

Good Luck to you all and hope my next application is a successful one :)

Regards,

Furqan

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BobinOz December 18, 2012 at 12:41 pm

Hi Furqan

That’s excellent news, nobody wants to write off that kind of money if it can be avoided, so it’s really good to hear that the refund procedure does work and that the Immigration Department are prepared to be lenient.

No ban, money back, can’t be bad can it? Thanks for coming back and letting us know.

Cheers

Bob

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van November 24, 2013 at 2:15 pm

Hi Furquan,
Good news that u can withdraw your visa and get the money back ! Do u mind if I ask how you can ask for the refund ? like what ground of reasons that u stand for and do u need to fill in any form ? I think I did make a mistake in my application and prolly have to go the same way you did.
Thank you very much

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Furqan November 24, 2013 at 11:46 pm

Hello Van,

I made the same mistake of claiming 5 additional points than my actual score. Immediately after realising the mistake I sent a letter signed by me and my partner for withdrawal of the visa application. I explained how I made the mistake in calculating the points and it was an erroneous mistake, kindly refund my visa fees. After a long wait of approximately 6-8 weeks a case officer was assigned and he immediately withdrew my application. The refund decision took further 3-4 weeks but was finally approved and actual refund was made in about 2 weeks time. Offcourse there was a major reduction due to exchange difference in currencies but still major chunk of the fees was refunded. The important thing which I believe was that I asked them for refund and withdrawal of visa application before a case officer was assigned and before they made any efforts over my case. This whole process took about 6 months from my withdrawal application to receiving the refund. So you have to be patient !

Regards,

FY

Thilini November 5, 2012 at 8:32 pm

Hi, yes you have made a mistake… but how can ur points change? I mean the department stated that Bachelors and Masters will get 15 points and a PhD will get 20 points. So, although you have made a mistake by equalling your qualificaiton to a Masters, I don’t see how ur points should fall?

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King September 8, 2012 at 6:33 pm

Hi,
can any body tell how can i get 70 points. and how can i get the qulification outside AUS which is equal to master in AUS.

What are the chance of IELTS, if i secoure below 7

thanks.

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BobinOz September 8, 2012 at 9:11 pm

I think you’re going to need to be a little more specific with your question, I certainly can’t answer this one.

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Raj September 8, 2012 at 11:04 pm

u can get 70 points by
1) going back in time using a time machine when u might gain additional points by being younger (works if u r in a higher age group like 40 + right now)
2) go back to school and get a higher degree then the one u currently have (need a time machine for this too i guess)
3) IMPROVE your language skills so that u are able to ask SPECIFIC and meaningful questions instead of throwing riddles in the air
I didn’t understand your “chances of IELTS if score is below7″, but i can say for sure that your chances are LESS then if u score above 7.
So get to working on that time machine, higher education and language skills and maybe u can say hello to Bob next year in Brisbane.
Above might sound rude to some people, but then i dont have have much tolerance to questions that arent framed correctly

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MARICHELLE September 19, 2012 at 8:08 pm

HI!! PLEASE HELP!!

I cannot find any info on this… so we’ve started with all paperworks and documents to lodge EOI for 189 pr skilled visa, and were just waiting for ACS Skills before we can lodge…. and now it sounds asif we also have a sponsor (457) who is coming to RSA for interviews end of Oct…

now my quesion : can we still applly for the PR 189 visa, and go to Aus on the 457 ? we wouldnt want to waist the monay spent on PR if one cannot do both ? would really like to continue with PR visa, and already go to australia on the 457…

How does this work ?
thank you soooo much!!!

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BobinOz September 20, 2012 at 9:13 pm

I wish I could help, but way too technical for me. Are you not using a MARA migration agent? My inadequate and unqualified brain thinks you should go for one or the other, otherwise, as you say, you’ll be wasting some money somewhere. And each visa application will cost you money.

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Bada September 22, 2012 at 11:12 pm

As I have received an invitation from skill select to apply for visa 190 at 17/09/2012 my EOI was locked and no edits are allowed. Unfortunately I discovered that I have made a mistake in the date of the IELTS exam as I typed 25/05/2012 instead of 26/05/2012 despite this unintended mistake the Test reference number and the scores of the test provided in the EOI are correct and this mistake done by me does not affect the score of the EOI as it remains the same as I claimed it would. There is nothing more in life that I desire more than to pursue my dream to immigrate to Australia and I fear that when I apply, this mistake will cost me to lose that dream. So please if you would be kind to answer my question if this mistake will jeopardise my application and cause it to failure or the case officers might understand that it was just unintended mistake? knowing the answer to that question will sure ease my restless nights. Thank you in advance for your time and efforts.

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BobinOz September 24, 2012 at 5:46 pm

I can’t speak for the government, but I would be horrified and shocked if this small error were to go against you. As you say, it does not affect your points and, in fact, the error is completely insignificant. I wouldn’t worry about it, but if anyone says anything or asks, tell them the truth, it’s just a simple typo. Nothing more.

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Raj September 25, 2012 at 12:45 am

@ Bada, I dont think this trivial honest mistake will affect your chances. Anyone in their right mind will see that made a mistake of 1 day with the date, since it has no bearing on your over all points score and also not related to your biographical information (date of birth), u should be ok.

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Bada September 25, 2012 at 1:42 am

Thank you…..I appreciate your help guys :)

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Mark September 26, 2012 at 12:44 am

Hi Bob,
Your site is fantastic and a lot more informative than most. Can you advise what my next step should be as neither my wife’s occupation nor mine is on the sol list, and we were informed at recent event it would be best to get a job offer before applying for visa.
This seems like a long shot, is there really no other option.
I am 39 my wife is 42 and our son is 16. We all plan to move together.
Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer

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BobinOz September 26, 2012 at 9:48 pm

Hi Mark

Australia isn’t an easy place to get in to, and it’s quite difficult to get a job sponsorship even if you are qualified and your skill is on the list. So I think you will find it even more difficult I’m afraid.

I don’t know enough about your circumstances to be able to tell you if there are other options or not, even if I did know more, I still couldn’t; I’m not qualified.

If you are interested, I have a MARA registered migration agent who works with me here, he does a very thorough assessment that is designed to find options if any are available. Check out my Visa Assessment Service.

It’s not free, but it will answer your questions. Good luck!

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Krist September 26, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Hello,
I am totally new in this and I am in the initial stage of getting invited for a Australian work visa. According to my online assessment I am applying for Independent Work Visa 189. and I need some assistance on how to get invited for applying for a visa.
Is EOI and Skill assets to ACS both needed to apply?
If Yes, Which one should I do first.?
And what are the chances I will get invite?
Please if you can reply …
Thanks in advance

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BobinOz September 26, 2012 at 9:55 pm

I think you are asking if you need to have your computer skills assessed by the ACS before filing an EOI, then yes, I would think you have to get your skill assessed first. What chances you would have of getting an invite, I have no idea. But I have to stress, I am not a MARA agent and I’m not really qualified to answer your question, I’m just trying to give advice to the best of my knowledge.

I would be seeking the help of a MARA agent if you are serious about this, it is important to get it right. I can recommend my agent to you if you do want professional help, just let me know.

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Mark September 26, 2012 at 10:45 pm

Hi Bob,

Thanks for replying to my question. I am in contact with a number of companies in Australia regarding whether sponsorship will ever be an option. When i get a bit further hopefully i will need to employ the services of your MARA agent.
In the meantime keep up the good work, love this site.

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Raj September 27, 2012 at 1:25 am

Bob is right, Skills accessment by ACS comes FIRST before anything else, next would be filling up the EOI, and as for chances for an Invite, no one can predict or guarantee that :)

I know that the Independent work Visa (189 ) will need the most points then other classes of visa, so if you think you fit into that bracket, i dont see any problem for you getting past the first stage (Approval from ACS i.e., though they dont use any points system , its your qualifications and experience that counts for getting approval from ACS).

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BobinOz September 28, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Thanks for the confirmation Raj, I wasn’t 100%.

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Psdf October 2, 2012 at 5:12 am

Raj / Bob..

I find this is a very useful and informative website .. Thanks for all ur efforts and time..

My Question is : I have applied for EOI with 60 points, a week back. But in couple of Months, my age turns out to be more dan 32.. and I loose 5 points. Does this effect the already submitted EOI Application after 2 months ?

Secondly, I have mentioned the experience of a company where I have worked for a year.. But it was a small company and later it got closed.. Does this causes any issues in future during Visa Process ?

Please guide me on this. Thanks.

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Raj October 2, 2012 at 3:50 pm

hello Psdf,
BOB is the sole owner of this blog and the rest of us only participate in discussions here, so please refer your comments only to Bob, ( others like me join in the discussion if they have anything to contribute. )
thanks !

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BobinOz October 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Not sure about the answer to your second question, although I think if you have nominated them as one of your referees, you would need to substitute that.

As for your points, I believe, although I’m not 100% sure, that the information at the time of your application is what is important and remains valid, so I don’t think your points total changes just because you are now a year older.

But I must stress, I am not qualified migration agent so I am only giving my opinion, so if anyone else reading this knows better, please do chime in.

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Raj October 2, 2012 at 4:49 pm

Psdf,
you need to prove/substantiate ONLY what you have mentioned in your EOI ( age, qualifications, experience etc).
So if on the date/day you lodged your EOI , your age is BELOW 32 (as it shows in your passport ) you shouldn’t have any problem even if you are chosen to be invited to apply at a much later date some months from now (when u fall under a higher age group).
But I really don’t know about the second part of your question ( ie i have no information to give you on that one).

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Raj October 2, 2012 at 4:54 pm

Correction :
quote “So if on the date/day you lodged your EOI , your age is BELOW 32 (as it shows in your passport )”

I believe you can be considered to be in that 32 age group even if u r 32 yrs and 11 months and 27 days old. So u needn’t be only below 32 yrs at the time of EOI as i mentioned in my previous posting above.

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Anne October 2, 2012 at 11:52 am

Hi. This is a very informative blog so far that I’ve read. I just want to ask if what visa will apply for me. I have a skills that is under the SOL and also my auny wanted to sponsor me, so what visa should I choose or will the admin or embassy should decide on it? I think I need to know it first before asking for the vetasses to have my skill assessed and once it is ok then I’ll submit an EOI.

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BobinOz October 2, 2012 at 4:00 pm

Hi Anne

It’s down to you to decide which visa you want to apply for, not the Australian government or any embassy. I can’t advise you which visa to go for, there are over 130 of them, and I’m not qualified to make those decisions.

If you need help, I can recommend my MARA agent who is qualified to answer your question, but only after a thorough Visa Assessment.

That may be money well spent for you. Good luck!

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Raj October 2, 2012 at 4:41 pm

Annie,
“what visa applies for me” depends on how many points you have scored using the points calculator.
If you already have 60 points, you are good to go ahead to apply for Skilled Independent Subclass 189 Visa.
If u think you want additional points to reach the 60 mark or want more then 60 points to improve your chances at being picked then you can consider Skilled – Regional (Provisional) (Subclass 489 visa).
Choosing this subclass 489 visa adds 10 additional points to your score. This is for people who are willing to get themselves sponsored by a State or Territorial Govt OR by a eligible relative who is residing in a Designated area in Australia.
HOWEVER, this class of visa has its limitations, this is a provisional visa with initial validity of UP TO 4 years and only after satisfying certain conditions you will be eligible to apply for a permanent resident visa AFTER 2 years from the time u first got your provisional visa. The primary condition for applying for permanent residency after 2 yrs is that you should have lived in a Specified Regional area of Australia (that EXCLUDES all the major cities) and worked for atleast 12 months of those 2 years.
The designated areas can be found in the link below

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/designated-areas.htm

The information above is only to give you a fair idea as to your choices, but as Bob mentioned above, only a qualified MARA Agent will be able to provide the correct answers to address your needs.

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Anne October 3, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Thanks bob and raj..

Raj that’s very informative and I may consider the 489 subclass visa.. Thanks for all the info. ;-)

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Meraj February 19, 2013 at 11:28 am

Hi Raj, ive just started to review this page, my question concerning your answer to Anne is, since you didnt mention class 190 as an option, i understand this gives 5 points and is permanent as compared to 489, is my info correct?

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KC October 2, 2012 at 5:58 pm

Hi Bob
I am working in the software industry for more than 11 yrs now and working as a Project Manager for last 4 years.
If I apply in PR 189 visa,I do not find any PM kind of job role in SOL2,nearest is Business Analyst.
Can I apply in BA profile as PM is a natural job progression.
However in CSOL you have a ICT Project Manager job role,but I do not have any employer sponsoring me.
Can a person apply for 457 as well as 189 at the same time?
Secondly my basic qualification is Textile Engineering.I had initially worked in Textile Industry before switching over to IT industry.Will the assessment be done on current job profile or educational qualification?
Third question is once you are in the pool,and if you are lucky to get any job offer,will you be asked to come in work visa or PR visa?If work visa,can you also take your family along with you and by when can you apply for PR visa if you are going in work visa?
Looking forward to your kind suggestion.
Thanks in advance.

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BobinOz October 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm

Hi KC

You really need to be ironing out these questions directly with a MARA registered migration agent, it’s the only way to find out the best path for you to take. I highly recommend the agent who works with me, if you are interested, he does a Visa Assessment Service.

Update:

I have just noticed that further down Raj (thanks Raj) has given you a much more comprehensive reply that you should find useful.

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KC October 5, 2012 at 2:16 am

Thanks Bob and Raj.Actually it is very confusing as one of the MARA agent in his initial assessment said I fail to get the requisite points as he validated my educational background vis-a-vis skill sets in SOL,later he replied I do have a chance and then some other agents say I have a great chance : ) , so utterly confused.
I will definitely try using the services of yours recommended agent.Thanks.

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BobinOz October 8, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Proof that all agents are different. You won’t be disappointed with my guy, good luck!

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Psdf October 3, 2012 at 12:17 am

Bob / Raj,

Thanks for this quick responses and it was useful..

To continue my question, in 6 months I will complete my 8 yrs of experience, if I remove that 1 year of experience of a closed company… So after 6 months, can I remove this old 1 year of experience from EOI and update the new data ? To be in safer side, I dont want to mention that 1 year of closed company experience. But to apply EOI before my 32, I used this 1 year of closed company experience.

Secondly, even I have same doubt as asked by KC in above question. When our EOI is in pool and chances of selections is difficult with 60 points, meanwhile if we get any offer from Australian company or consultancy, can we update this in EOI to increase the chances of invitations ?

Thirdly for relative sponserships, do we need to show the proof that they are our cousins or aunt/uncle or can we use our second cousin as first cousin ? Any specific documents require to prove this relationships for relative sponserships ?

Please suggest on this.
Thanks in Advance..

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Raj October 3, 2012 at 2:10 am

I am aware that you can update your profile later to reflect any changed circumstances in qualifications and experience (ie newly acquired educational qualifications or additional experience), but I am not sure if REMOVING a part of your experience is also allowed, you will need advice from a qualified agent regarding that.
As to the 2nd part of your question, the answer is Yes
Regarding to the last part of your question, an Aunt or Uncle is among the list of relatives who can sponsor you (provided they too meet certain eligibility criteria like living in a Designated Area of a state), but cousins don’t come under the list of relatives who can sponsor you.
The list of documents required depends on your relationship with the sponsoring relative , and will include birth records (or birth certificate) , passport, and any other records the immigration agency deems fit to ask for.
It is usually easy to prove relationship between siblings (if you have a brother and sister who is eligible to sponsor and they have same set of biological parents) and relationship between a parent and off spring, but proving relationship with an uncle or aunt needs more documentation like family tree diagram and maybe more. A qualified Immigration agent can advice you more on this…..

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Raj October 3, 2012 at 12:20 am

Hello KC,
you can apply in a BA profile ONLY if your current job profile is designated as a Business Analyst and your job description is meant for Business Analysts (though BA eventually leads to PA they are still different job profiles and therefore have different job codes ).
Maybe u can wait for an Employer to sponsor you, these things take time and wont happen in a matter of weeks or few months.
As for applying for 457 and 189 you can do so at same time and eventually whichever gets picked first, the process heads in that direction…..
Based on your question related to educational qualification, i am assuming that you haven’t started the ACS skills accessment process yet.
The ACS skills accessment is done taking into consideration BOTH your Educational as well as Job experience….and the outcome will depend on both of them.
I feel this is kinda unfair on the part of ACS to expect /require Educational qualifications closely related to your line of work (and impractical too) as Information Technology is one field where a significant percentage of professionals have an educational qualification not necessarily related to IT.
Moreover jobs are so highly specialized these days that few IT related degrees have significant course content directly related to your line of work….most IT degrees are generic in nature and teach u a bit of everything and its only during training and on the job that u end up picking up the specialized skills needed on the job.
But then, having 11 years of work experience in Information Technology SHOULD work in your favor and I wouldn’t worry too much if i were you. Anyways, take advice regarding this from a qualified MARA agent.

I am not familiar with the other questions you asked at the end of your posting, please contact a qualified Immigration agent for further clarifications regarding your case.

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Raj October 3, 2012 at 12:23 am

correction:
quote “though BA eventually leads to PA……”
PA should be read as PM (Project Manager)… sorry for the over sight

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Psdf October 3, 2012 at 9:21 am

Thanks Raj for your quick responses and guidelines… Really appreciated..

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Psdf October 6, 2012 at 3:20 am

Raj,

If My EOI with 60 points not gets selects under 189 subclass, I have decided to go through relative sponsership visa after couple of months.

I want to know, is there any disadvantages going through relative sponsership visa ? I hope its like a work permit visa..So, can spouse is eligible to work in this work permit visa ? What benefits not included in this work permit visa compared to PR ? How long need to wait in this work permit visa to get PR and whats criteria ?

On the other hand, state sponsership to NT, am having other option to apply as based on IELTS scores. But we get directly PR , if we go through NT state sponsership under 190 subclass. But for software industry , NT is not the best choice. So, am planning to apply for either relative or NT Sponsership Visa . So, which is the best choice for my circumstances ? Also am looking ahead the option where both myself and my spouse can work..some countries in work permit, spouse cant work right ? so appreciate your advise on this..

Thanks in advance.

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Raj October 6, 2012 at 6:31 am

Hello Psdf,
I am not aware as to what career opportunities are available for Software Professionals in the Northern Territory, so I’m going by your statement, assuming that u have done your homework regarding job openings for IT professionals in that state….
Under the circumstances (assuming that there are fewer opportunities for software professionals in NT as u said ), which ever path u choose, (state sponsorship or relative sponsorship) you have to reconcile to the fact that u might need to work on a job not related to Software if necessary.

Secondly, the Subclass 489 visa that u r interested is valid for 4 years and in that 4 years u have to spend atleast the first 2 years in the state that sponsored you and again worked for AT LEAST 1 year ( in the initial 2 years). If you are seeking a eligible relative to sponsor you, that relative should be a resident of a Designated area in that particular state.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/designated-areas.htm

I know for certainty that as far as OZ is concerned, both you and yr spouse can work if you get your Subclass 489 visa.

The “relative sponsored visa” restricts you to live and work in a Designated area for 2 years before u can apply for a PR.
If a state nominated u for the visa, then u have to stay there for atleast 2 years, keep the state informed about any change in your address and participate in periodic surveys.

Hope the information above will help u make your choice as to which visa you think suits your circumstances best.

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Psdf October 6, 2012 at 9:54 am

Thanks once again Raj for the guidance and valuable advise.

If I get state sponsership PR, and according to it need to spend 2 yrs in dat state.. say, if I get PR from 2013 to 2018..and after reporting to Australia within 6 months once , then later can I go 2 years before the PR expiry, that is in 2016 ? Or do I need to stay initial 2 years itself ? Please clarify on this.

Thanks in advance.

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Raj October 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Hello Psdf,
I dont have any information regarding your latest question, but i guess u need to stay on for 2 years from the time u FIRST landed in OZ. ( the stay has to be a TOTAL of atleast 2 yrs discounting your trips abroad, ie if u go to India on a short trip of 3 weeks during yr 1st year stay and again 2 weeks India trip during yr 2nd year stay, u will need an additional 5 weeks stay in OZ to make up for the time spend out of OZ before u r eligible to apply for PR ).

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james October 7, 2012 at 11:26 pm

hello i was just wondering that if one student studying diploma of 1.5yrs ,he /she can get 18 months working visa after completion or not ..??

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BobinOz October 8, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Sorry James, don’t know the answer to that one.

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harry October 8, 2012 at 3:12 am

hello bob/raj,

Thanks in advance dear, ur site is great.
I have a question in which i want u guys to help me out
me n my wife we both are eligible to apply for pr, i am scoring 60 points, i hv an Australian qualification on which i m planing (advance diploma 2 years) and 1 year exp post qualification not Australian ..
And as a ICT Sales Representative my wife is scoring 65 points with the help of bachelor degree in terms of point, my wife have 3 years exp and she have a diploma in computer studies which is related to her occupation and she is graduate in bachelor of arts these two qualification are different from each other. i m not really sure about the points for qualification, is she going to get 15 point(bachelors) or 10 point (diploma).

And for more point we both are eligible for south Australia sponsorship but my wife occupation shows low availability on State Nominated Occupation List and for me its showing high availability.

My question is who should be main applicant me or my wife.

Thanks

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BobinOz October 8, 2012 at 4:40 pm

That’s not a question I’m qualified to answer, but if you do want a professional MARA agent to look at it for you, I do highly recommend my agent and his Visa Assessment Service.

You would need to provide much more information than you have done, more than six pages worth in all, but I believe it’s the only way to truly find out how best to proceed with your application. Cheers

Bob

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adrienne October 8, 2012 at 10:22 pm

Hi, sorry, going to gate crash your existing comments as can’t find a way to start my own question. Great site by the way, I am scanning the internet for answers and it always comes back to you. It’s been really helpful.

My husband is a carpenter and is 47 so right at the top of the age bracket, I am 42, we have three small children (9, 7, 2)

I think that the only way we have a small chance of moving to australia is through sponsored job for my husband. My question is if he finds a job that the company is willing to sponsor him, does that mean he does not necessarily have to meet the points? As he is lacking slightly.

Has anyone moved over in the higher age bracket that can advise?

Also, does anyone know of what qualifications you need to work with pre-school children? As that is what I do now and I’m hoping that might make our points higher.

Thanks so much.

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Anne October 9, 2012 at 8:54 am

Hi again. I have a question again regarding skills. Well I haven’t finished my engineering course but I do have a vocational which is hardware tech and also been assessed in my country. My aunt who lives in melbourne wanted to sponsor me and my husband. What is the first step that I should do? Do I have to make an EOI or should my skills be assessed first there in australia by the vetassess which my skill is under to it? Do I need to take the language exam first before the assessment by the vetassess?

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varun October 9, 2012 at 9:00 pm

Hi ,

I have 2 questions and need help on that.
Firstly, I have gon through the skill assessment by ACS and my experience mentioned in their letter is 4.11 Years. However now that 1 more month has passed away , and my experience is 5 years , should i use 5 years while filling in my EOI or should i stick to the one verified by ACS.
My concern here is to get additional 5 points for work experience over 5 Years.
Secondly, Since both me and my spouse are planning to migrate and both have their skills assessed by ACs and Qualify under the skill list , which visa should i opt for. I mean can u help me with the process?

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BobinOz October 11, 2012 at 9:59 pm

Hi Adrienne, Anne and Varun

Since this expression of interest thing has come into play, a lot of people have had a lot of questions and I’m afraid I’m just not skilled enough or qualified to answer them. But I do know that how you complete your EOI is very important, it’s almost like submitting a legal document.

I would strongly advise any of you to seek the advice of a MARA registered migration agent before making your submission just to make sure you get it right. Remember, if you use my Visa Assessment Service my agent will advise you of the best way you should approach your application and how/when to submit your EOI. It’s not a free service, but it’s certainly low cost so it may just be money well spent.

Adrienne, I think being offered sponsorship means you don’t need to have the full points, but again, since this expression of interest has been introduced, that may have changed so I’m not sure.

Really sorry I can’t help you all more specifically, but if I could, I’d be a MARA agent myself :-)

Bob

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Rizi October 14, 2012 at 5:42 pm

Hi

I have been invited to submit my Visa based on 70 points EOI. I then realised that I have claimed 20 points on experiance. My problem is, will DIAC accept experiance earned before getting my qualification. I have been employed since 1998 as an accounts clerk and enrolled for my degree on parttime bases. Should I go ahead with my visa application. Will they consider my experiance prior to my degree?

Please help

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tayib October 15, 2012 at 11:11 pm

Hello,

I have submitted my EOI nearly 4 weeks ago. I am yet to get an update on the status. I received my Nomination from the govt of victoria on the 27th of Jul.
The nomination email came with the following info :
>>3. If you do not advise the Skilled and Business Migration Programthat you have submitted your EOI, Victorian Government state nomination will be withdrawn upon expiry of the nomination validity period ( 4 months from the date of receiving this letter.i.e 27th July)
>>
Now my question is how do i notify Skilled and Business Migration Program that i have submitted my EOI?

Thanks in advance for the help.

-Tayib

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harry October 16, 2012 at 8:23 am

hi
thanks for for the last reply i have one more questions
according to EOI the highest ranked clients by points score are invited to apply for the relevant visa and all occupation have different ceilings point
lets say occupation X has 420 seats and Occupation Y has 1000 and no one is submitting the Eoi for X everyone is running towards Y so immigration will send invitation highest scorers so simply it will increase competition in b/w candidate of Y groups
my questions is that is it gonna affect the future candidates of X occupation group …?
I am confused because in SkillSelect Invitations to apply to migrate – Round 1 September 2012 Results its shows Skilled – Independent (subclass 189) has lowest scoring points 70 and same for Skilled – Regional Provisional (subclass 489)
its not showing lowest scoring point as per occupation its showing as per visa subclass how is possible all occupation have different ceilings point

hopefully i have described question correctly

waiting for ur reply
thanks
harry

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BobinOz October 16, 2012 at 5:25 pm

Rizi, Tayib and Harry, the complexities of EOI are beyond me, I’m afraid I’m just not qualified to answer any of your questions. Navigating your way through the rules is a tricky process and as it is such an important step, life changing even, it’s important to get it right. That is why for anyone who is unsure of the process, I advise that they seek the advice of a MARA agent.

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tayib October 16, 2012 at 7:02 pm

Thank you for the response, Bob.

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Psdf October 18, 2012 at 1:58 pm

Raj / Bob,

I just want to know whats the exact differences between Subclass Visa 186 and 187 ? Currently am working for a company called “A” in India and can I ask with the same company “A” s branch in Australia to sponser me Employer Nomination Visa under 186 or 187 subclass ? Or it should be completely different company should sponser the Visa ?

Please guide me on this.

Thanks in Advance..

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BobinOz October 22, 2012 at 6:52 pm

That’s not something I can help you with, you should either speak to a MARA registered migration agent or look them up over at the government’s website. I can recommend a MARA agent if you need one, just let me know.

Cheers

Bob

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Roby October 26, 2012 at 10:23 pm

Hello everybody
1) Why does skill select let me to submit my EOI even though I can score 50 points only which is under the 60 threshold for the 189 visa?
2) I have work experience as long as 5 years outside Australia, anyway I only get 5 points for that, but they should be 10 as far as I know from booklet 6.
3) I should be a skilled worker, or this is what I thought before starting the whole process, what is the purpose to indicate the 186 and 187 visa in my EOI? I have not any contacts with any employers of Australia (I tryed to contact some agencies, I did not tell them I was oversea, I just toled them I did not own any VISA, and they replyed to me it was not even possible to have an interview in this case).
4) Same question as above, I could enter Australia only with the 489 which would give me 10 points: but I did not ask for nomination and I am not sure I have the requirements to be nominated by any states of Australia, so again: does it make any sense to submit an EOI with 60 point with the 489 option, but without having been already nominated by the state?
5) My assessment authority told me they also recognized me my Master degree with the purpose of obtaining more points (which is not stated on the booklet 6; only a PhD can give some extra points, not a Master), in fact i got not any extra point for it. Is there really a possibility to get any extra point with a Master degree?

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BobinOz October 29, 2012 at 5:23 pm

A lot of questions, none of which I can answer. You really need to be talking to a qualified Mara agent, maybe you should employ my man who I thoroughly recommend. Check out my Visa Assessment Service.

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1purplefairy November 2, 2012 at 9:50 am

Hi,

I am in the process of submitting my EOI, however when i get to the final stage before I submit, it says: ‘The client has a total of 55 points’.

I am not sure how this works, I should get:
30 points for my age (30);
20 points for IELTS score of 8;
15 for Bachelors degree

So, 65 in total. Can anyone help me to understand why it only allocated me 55 points, I am terribly confused!!

Thanks so much in advance!!!!

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Raj November 2, 2012 at 1:33 pm

hmmm ,
i think i know why u scored less then u thought u should in the total /final score.
one imp question, did u score 8 band (or above 8) in EACH of the 4 modules of IELTS ??? if your answer is no , ie if u scored less then 8 in even one of the 4 modules (but still managed to get 8 band in OVER ALL band score), unfortunately u will be awarded only 10 points instead of 20 (as u assumed).
They expect someone to score atleast 8 in ALL the 4 modules (reading, writing, speaking, listening) in order to score 20 points

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suresh November 2, 2012 at 11:05 pm

Hi,
I received ACS Assessment report. In the report, the location of my employer mentioned wrongly in 2 places. What is the process to get it done?

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suresh November 4, 2012 at 11:53 pm

Waiting eagerly for the updates, please do the needful.

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BobinOz November 5, 2012 at 1:19 pm

I’m not sure what the process is, can you not simply contact the people directly and tell them?

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Psdf November 6, 2012 at 10:17 am

Raj / Bob,

Once we get PR , we have to report within 6 months for our presence to Australia and then we can return as per our plans… So, if I get PR under state nomination Visa then can I report for my presence within 6 months to anywhere in Australia for a week and return or I need to report only to that nominated state for a week within 6 months to keep PR active ?

Please let me know about this..

Thanks

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Raj November 6, 2012 at 12:31 pm

You FIRST visit should be the state / territory which sponsored you for the state nomination when you are landing in OZ for the first time after yr visa is approved, ie the port of entry should be in that state/territory.

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Psdf November 7, 2012 at 10:12 am

Thanks Raj for this quick response ….

1. If I get Australian PR , can I visit to NZ without any visas ? Can I allowed to work in NZ as well ?

2. After submitting EOI for skilled independent visa – 189 through online, do I need to post any documents to any offices or any where ? Or just the online EOI submission is enough?

Please help me on this queries.

Thanks once again…

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Raj November 9, 2012 at 5:43 pm

Australian PR holders are generally allowed to work in NZ (unless there are conditions attached to the PR), visiting NZ at anytime is allowed.

No posting of any documents is necessary for EOI. After u submit the EOI online, all u have to do is wait for an outcome.

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Imran November 7, 2012 at 11:17 am

Hi all , I guess im in trouble , would be gr8 if someone help me out .

I applied for EOI on July 1st and got invitation to apply on Nov . Issue is my ACS skills assessment expired on July 29th.

DIAC says I need to have suitable skills assessment at the time of invitation . Since I dont have valid assessment at time of invite , Am I not eligible apply ?

I have applied for re-validation as well. However , the new result letter might have new Issue date and new reference number which will be different than I mentioned in EOI . Will there be an issue?

Called up DIAC , they themselves are not confident to answer this question . I was in an assumption that valid assessment is required only filing EOI and not required at time of invitation .

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BobinOz November 8, 2012 at 10:29 pm

What a strange situation, interesting that DIAC aren’t even able to answer the question themselves, it won’t surprise you to learn that I can’t either. You had a valid assessment when you applied for your EOI, I would have thought in itself that should be enough. And certainly if you’re revalidation is successful, then I really can’t see a problem. But then I am not DIAC and it is only they who can answer it. Except they can’t, apparently.

It’s all a bit messy, isn’t it? Good luck anyway, I hope it all works out in the end.

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Atul November 7, 2012 at 8:05 pm

Hi Bob,

I really appreciate the help you are providing via this blog to all the OZ visa applicant.
I applying for visa subclass 189 and done with the following steps
1) Skill assessment —-Positive
2) IELTS– List-7.5 Read–7 speak–7 Writ–6.5 (bad luck as just failed short of .5 mark)

So I applied for recheck of my ielts result paper and I am quite sure that I would get 7 in writing as well. But the re-check result will take 6-8 weeks.

In a mean while I just thought of applyying for EOI as to my knowledge EOI will take more than 3 month, by that time I will get my ielts results.
So my query here is

1) Should I apply for EOI mentioning ielts 7 band in writing. (If my recheck result comes negative then I will retake the ielts and score 7, all this can take not more than 3 months)

2) How much time does it take to get the invitation once u apply for EOI (I am scoring 65 points if I get ielts 7 in each band)

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BobinOz November 9, 2012 at 1:29 pm

I am not qualified to answer your questions, but my opinion is it would not be a good idea to apply saying you have a 7 in writing when you do not. Nobody knows how long it takes to get an invitation, it varies depending on your total score and your occupation.

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Raj November 9, 2012 at 1:56 pm

You are taking a risk by mentioning that your IELTS writing band is 7 when it is not, but going by your posting u seem to have have TWO chances of making that 7 band….
IF u get 7 band during revaluation, u will be fine ,
However, if there is a field in the EOI where u have to fill out the date of your IELTS and u fill in the date of the first attempt at IELTS , and it didnt go as u hoped (after revaluation) then u r in
trouble even if u attempt it again and get the required 7 in the 2nd IELTS attempt, since the date u gave in the date field (assuming that there is such a date field for IELTS section in the EOI)…..
So check if there is a date field in the EOI in the IELTS section and if it is there, better wait till your 7 band is CONFIRMED. (either in revaluation or with a new attempt), else u will be in trouble.

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suresh November 8, 2012 at 1:57 pm

Hi,

I am applied for SA sponsorship(190- SubClass Visa) under the occupation list of 261112-Systems Analyst with 65 points. I have IELTS band score of 6.5 in each modules. Please kindly let me know regarding the possibility of getting the invitation as well as how much it will take to get the invitation under this category. Your reply means a lot to me. Thanks in advance.

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Raj November 8, 2012 at 10:51 pm

I’m afraid its not possible to predict your chances of getting an invite, it all depends on how many Systems Analyst positions they think are available and where u stand in the points ranking among other Systems Analysts who also have applied, and this info is classified , when the process of short listing prospective applicants is being done.
It might take a few months at the least to expect an outcome, this is also difficult to predict as so many variables come into play…..
Sorry I couldn’t be more specific with the answers but that’s the way it is…..

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Thinking November 12, 2012 at 6:37 pm

So I have received an invitation with a score of 65 for 189 (Nov 1). I had selected the Australian Study requirement but I now realize that although I had finished my final Semester (of a two year Masters) I will not technically have my degree till Dec 1st. However, during the same time (on Nov 9) I moved up from 7 band IELTS (lodged with EOI) to 8 Band IELTS (Test given 27th Oct..results on Nov 9th).

Long story short, I am not sure how they will view the Study requirement thing;however, I will surely be able to claim 65 points if not more. Any ideas?

Also, the EOI is now locked…if its a problem should I put in a new EOI?

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Raj November 12, 2012 at 9:30 pm

two questions for u regarding yr case before i can comment further….

1) did u get 65 score when yr IELTS band was still band 7 ??

2) now that your IELTS score is band 8, do u also have at least 8 in ALL/EACH of the four modules ?? ( reading, writing, listening, speaking)

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Thinking November 13, 2012 at 3:41 am

As for 1, yes I had 65 with a band of 7 (i.e. my lowest was 7)

As for 2, yes now I still have atleast 65 considering a band of 8 (actually only 8 in writing, 9 in all the rest :D)

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Thinking November 12, 2012 at 6:38 pm

Thanks

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Raj November 12, 2012 at 9:34 pm

Please ignore the first question i asked (did u get band 7 when yr score was 65, obviously u did ….), but id like u to answer the 2nd question so that i can comment further as to your available options…..

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Thinking November 20, 2012 at 6:45 pm

Yes, my band is 8 now…65 was my score with the university study. However, now I also realize that if I had exemptions that (australian study requirement) might not count. My points will still be 65 due to band 8 . But not sure if they check the claimed points or they will hold me on my mistake– which was unintentional as I did not read the Aus study requirement properly.

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Rob November 13, 2012 at 2:21 am

Hi Raj,

My name is Rob Deasy,

I have begun the process of obtaining my permanent residency visa for Australia (without using a migration agent). The visa that I will be applying for is subclass 190.

I have a couple of questions regarding the skill select process but firstly let me tell you where I am at present.

I have applied for and successfully obtained my skills assessment (Engineers Australia)
I have submitted my application to the Victorian Government for State sponsorship (currently awaiting the outcome)
Here is wherein my query lies…

Pending a successful outcome for my State nomination I will be ready to submit my Expression of Interest.

I have read that when submitting an expression of interest (visa subclass 190) with a successful State nomination (assuming basic requirements have been met) that one is automatically invited to apply.

Once an individual has been invited to apply they have 60 days to do so, however I understand that one should not obtain their medical and Police Character reference before being invited to apply. In theory, a Police check may take longer than 60 days to obtain wherein I am left with a “Chicken and Egg” situation… which comes first!!

Can you tell me should I go ahead in obtaining my Medical & Police character reference and risk being told I have obtained them too early…. or should I wait until I have been invited to apply and then risk the Police character reference taking longer than the 60 days and therefore having my invitation withdrawn??

To summarise… At what stage should I begin the process of obtaining both my medical and Police character reference??

This whole process has been a bit of a minefield to navigate but one I am enjoying and growing in confidence in… however I must admit I am stumped on this one!!

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Raj November 13, 2012 at 3:38 am

hello Rob,
Don’t worry about your medical’s and Police clearance now. Those will come at a LATER stage once the Australian (Federal ) Dept of Immigration and Citizenship begins processing your application . Initially your work and educational credentials will be verified and only after u have passed that stage, u will be notified by them to apply for police clearance and later the medicals.
Its very early to even think of those 2 issues now and anyways as i mentioned above, you will be officially notified to start those 2 processes when that stage is reached and enough time will be given to you (or anyone else) to complete the above mentioned processes.
good luck !

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Rob November 13, 2012 at 6:01 am

That’s great… thanks so much for your help!!

Rob

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Suj January 20, 2013 at 5:30 am

You know what .. based on some misguidance — i got my police clearance(PC) done in Sep 2012. Then sat for IELTS etc.
Now i got invite on Dec 3 to lodge visa –did that .
the Question is … i have a PC thats old..
Can i submit the same when asked (say) feb 2013 ?

Suj

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BobinOz January 25, 2013 at 12:58 pm

They might, but I would ask them first.

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Psdf November 13, 2012 at 3:14 am

Raj,

Appreciate your responses and clarifying my doubts..
Thanks for all your help and spending time to guide us :-) God Bless You !!

Thanks.

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Rob November 14, 2012 at 5:57 am

Hi All, Bob ad Raj….

Another question to task you with!!

I was reading the DIAC website again earlier and it seems that they too will require certified copies of my college transcripts and certificates??!!

I was under the impression that when I had my skills assessed (Engineers Australia) that I would only need certified copies of my transcripts and certificates for them… and then the DIAC in turn would accept their assessment outcome!!

When I was getting all my documentation certified I got two certified copies of Passport and Birth Cert as I knew I would need them again but I only got one set of college transcripts and certificates (20 pages) as I assumed DIAC wouldn’t ask for them again….

I have copies of my certified documents but the copies with the original certification went to Engineers Australia….

Do I need to go back and annoy my local justice of the peace again?? :(

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BobinOz November 16, 2012 at 9:06 pm

I would, it doesn’t pay to ignore requests from DIAC.

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Psdf November 16, 2012 at 12:41 am

Bob / Raj,

Its to inform you that, surprisingly today I got a invitation to apply Visa under 189 category. I was expecting very late or no invitation under this 189 subclass.
Because I applied EOI on Oct 11th and with only 60 points and my EOI number was more than 5 lak . I guess they gave invitation based on my age.. Because in 2 months I become 32 and loose 5 points.

Meanwhile I was preparing for NT and NSW state sponcerships. I have sent documents for NSW sponcership to NSW state. But now I have got invitation for 189. So, NSW state will reject my application automatically ?

Thank you all.

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BobinOz November 16, 2012 at 9:07 pm

Congratulations on getting an invitation, not sure how it works so I couldn’t tell you if NSW will reject your application automatically or not.

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Dave Wilson November 19, 2012 at 10:33 pm

Hi Bob,

I’ve just stumbled upon your website which I am sat reading through now – very informative! I’m just about to start reading through the comments section so my answer may be sitting in there.

I’m hoping that you may be able to give a quick response to a question (?): Lodged an EOI 20/10/12 re: to practice as a dentist in Victoria but still no response as yet. My claim is = 60 points which satisfies criteria. I currently reside and practice in England. As I understand it, could it be possible that I may be waiting 6 mths to receive a response depending upon the demand of my occupation in my chosen area?

Right then….off to read more…..

Thank you and with best wishes,

Dave Wilson

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BobinOz November 20, 2012 at 6:50 pm

You could be, as I understand it there is no set time scale, it all depends on supply and demand and the number of points you have. I’m afraid those with the most points are more likely to hear sooner than those with fewer points. Sorry I can’t be any more specific than that, but I think that’s the way it works.

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Psdf November 20, 2012 at 12:47 am

Bob,

Thanks for your support… If there is any format for PCC , please send it to me.

Thanks,
Preetham.

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BobinOz November 20, 2012 at 6:53 pm

I don’t think so, ours was a letter from the police on simple old A4 paper.

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Psdf November 20, 2012 at 12:53 am

Dave Wilson,

I went thru your query… I have posted my blog just above of you… I have applied EOI on Oct 11th with 60 points for software engineering and I got a invitation on Nov 15th. I didnt expect, I get so sooon….Even I planned to wait for 6 months. Also my EOI number was E00005XXXXX . It means a very large registration number for EOI . Still I got a invitation.. So , I hope you may get invited very soon, no need to wait for 6 months.

Thanks.

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Rohan November 20, 2012 at 1:51 pm

I have claimed 5 points for Partner skill qualifications. I had my Wife’s Assessment done and also she had written the IELTS exam last November getting 6 or above in each of the four modules. So I claimed the 5 points for Partner skill qualifications.

I got an invite to apply on 15th November. But now I see on skill select website that ” You need to take only the general test unless otherwise advised by your skills assessing authority”.

Please could someone advise me if the IELTS academic score can also be considered for this EOI for claiming partner skill points.
Thanks
Rohan

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chandima November 20, 2012 at 3:24 pm

It want be a problem. My sister submitted the EOI and my B’law did the IELTS academic module since he felt it’s more comfortable to him. They got selected and got their Visa approved without any issue.

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Rohan November 20, 2012 at 9:36 pm

Thanks for your reply Chandima. Did your sister claim 5 points for Partner skill qualifications ?
I am confused.

Thanks
Rohan.

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chandima November 20, 2012 at 9:50 pm

Yep , that’s correct . she got 5 points for partner skills

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Rohan November 20, 2012 at 10:00 pm

Thanks Chandima. I should have asked this in my earlier. Some of the skill accessing authorities give you the option of either taking Academic or General IELTS. We got our skill assessment done by ACS( Australian Computer Society), which doesn’t talk about any IELTS score.

Please can you tell me skill accessing authority , where your sister got her skill assessment done.

Thanks
Rohan

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Rohan November 21, 2012 at 12:02 am

Thank you Chandima for your valuable reply. I sent a query to immi.gov.au and got my doubt clarified.

I am pasting below the exact wordings which was in their document , they sent me.

“IELTS has an academic test and a general training test – you need only take the general training test unless otherwise advised by your skills assessing authority, though the Department will accept either.”

Hope this helps someone like me.

Thanks
Rohan

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Shelly November 20, 2012 at 8:14 pm

Hi Bob,

Great website, really helpful!
I submitted my EOI on 15th Nov and recieved a notification on 16th stating that my EOI was ready to be completed as I have been awarded 75 points,
I have 2 questions, the 1st one is do I need to do anything to progress this or just wait until i hear more? I assumed once i submitted the EOI that was my part done until contacted with an invitation but as it says ready to be completed is there any further steps i need to take?

2nd)From reading the above posts i have a slight concern re my skilled employment. On my skilled assesment report they (CPA – applying for Accountant – General) considered 2.6yrs of my work experience as ‘skilled employment’. My previous employment is in the same roles but as I wasn’t fully qualified they deemed that this employment was not skilled. However, on the EOI work experience page when it asks is this relevent to your skilled occupation I ticked yes for all of my work experience not just the 2.6yrs as they relate to the same occupation (just isn’t considered skilled). Now I am worried this may cause an issue?

Thanks for your help :)

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BobinOz November 26, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Hi Shelly

I was hoping someone else might be able to help you with this, I’m afraid I do not know the answers. As nobody has helped, maybe you might like to take a look at my Visa Assessment Service, my professional MARA agent would be able to guide you as to how to progress this further.

Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.

Cheers

Bob

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preeti November 23, 2012 at 11:44 pm

i hv completed my adv. dip from tafe , sydney, australia in july 2011 n then i left australia now i m working in my field from last 14 months in my home country now i want EA to assess my qualification and my work experience as far as i know i have only one problem with it . My company where i am working is a small company and they pay me in hand instead of in my bank account i have all other document related to my job other than my bank statement that includes tax related doc, pay sleep, job offer letter etc.
is that would be problem…?

i dont really need any work experience for skill assessment but just want get reed off fresher stamp when i will file EOI in skillselect after my skill assessment

As i can remember the experience thing use to be like u have to have an two year australian qualification finished in last six month or 1 year experience in last five year before submitting the application for pr
my second question is that is that rule still stands for skillselect process.

# as per my knowledge any body can register in skillselect but minimum requirement of getting selected in skillselect is to score at-least 60 point by some how. am i right on this point

hopefully i am clear enough for u to answer my question

please help if any body have any idea what i talking
thanks

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preeti November 23, 2012 at 11:49 pm

And one more thing i am not getting any point for my work experience as i only have 14 months of experience which is not obtained in australia

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BobinOz November 26, 2012 at 1:59 pm

Hi Preeti

Yes, you are right that the minimum points score is 60, as for your other questions, I really do not know what proofs DIAC will ask for, all I do know is that what ever you claim when filling out your EOI you will have to back up if asked to do so. Good luck!

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Indranil Pal November 25, 2012 at 5:31 am

Hi,
When is a visa subclass 189 advised ? It doesn’t need a sponsor

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BobinOz November 26, 2012 at 4:03 pm

It’s really your choice which visa you decide to apply for between the sponsored and the 189 independent which does not need a sponsor. Generally speaking, the 189 is harder to get and can take longer, but when you get here you arrive as a Permanent Resident and can choose to work for who ever will offer you a job when you get here.

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saad November 25, 2012 at 11:43 pm

Hi All,

This is absolultely brilliant and a great job to all that are involved. I gave my IELTS last saturday and just waiting for my score. I am intending to apply for my EOI as soon as i get my result. My question is that what all do i need to just make an EOI for now? do i need the skills assessment done as well? and I understand that 31st December is the last date for submission?

Thanks!!!!!!!!

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BobinOz November 26, 2012 at 4:10 pm

I don’t know how the process works entirely I’m afraid, hopefully someone else will help you with your questions. Good luck!

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preeti November 26, 2012 at 7:30 pm

hi saad,
u can not entirely rely on this information u need confirm it first

as per my understanding u can submit the EOI at any stage as u can upgrade the same at any time but ur application will be selected only if ur fulfilling all the requirement for the visa u intend to apply including minimum 60 point requirement

i have one question for u
what do u mean by 31st December is the last date for submission

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saad November 26, 2012 at 9:46 pm

Hi Preeti,

Many thanks for this! I was told by someone that since they stopped accepting new applicants since 1st July’2012, for the EOI the last date for submission is 31st Dec’12. As you can tell I am still very very confused :)…..

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preeti November 27, 2012 at 12:58 am

hi saad
they stopped accepting new applicants after 1st July’2012 because on 1st july immigration australia has introduced skillselect process
every year on 1st july immigration change there rule slightly but this year they have changed it completely. And hopefully till next year’s july they are not making any changes in current process.

i tried to google 31st december thing but the result came with nothing similar and have also checked immigration website and nothing was there to
so i am hoping the info. u have regarding 31st dec is incorrect or we both can wait until some one else shed light on this

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Caroline de Kock November 28, 2012 at 1:29 pm

Two weeks ago I received an invitation to apply from Skillselect under visa 489 family sponsored. I haven’t done the application yet because I’ve been waiting to hear from the Victoria government if they will sponsor me under the 190 visa. Yesterday I got confirmation from Victoria that they will sponsor me. Unfortunately my EOI is suspended because of the other invitation which I will not be taking up now. Do I have to wait 60 days before I can be invited for the 190 visa or can I submit another EOI? Is it legal to have two EOI’s running at the same time? Anyone had any experience of this situation?

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Caroline November 29, 2012 at 10:03 am

Further to my previous message, below is a message I got from Skillselect regarding having two EOI’s running at the same time:

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Till your current EOI expires you cannot withdraw or suspend it. However in the meantime you can apply for the visa that state govt has agreed to sponsor you for. You should lodge a second EOI for that visa subclass. You can have two EOI current at the same time. Please note that next round of invitations is 1 December.

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Sameera November 29, 2012 at 4:39 pm

Dear Caroline

I would appreciate if could give me Skillselect email because I am in almost a similar situation as you.

Thanks in Advance.

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Caroline November 30, 2012 at 6:46 am

I emailed their technical inquiries which is intended for people having technical problems with the site, but they actually replied to me! The details are on the SkillSelect site. If your situation is the same as mine then just set up another EOI as I did yesterday. I got the invitation to apply under the 190 visa on the new EOI yesterday as well. It’s very fast and efficient.

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Rose November 28, 2012 at 8:12 pm

Hi,

While filing for EOI (189) I confused australian study requirement option n ticked it yes thinking my degree from home country does satisfy the australian study requirement so my score turned out to be 70, I got an invitation paid my fee and only when CO pointed out that my score is 65 since I have not furnished any Australian certificates I realized my mistake. can this be corrected by submiting form 1023?

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BobinOz November 30, 2012 at 9:44 pm

Sorry Rose, I’m not really sure how DIAC will handle this, all I know is that it is important to try and submit your EOI as accurately as possible in the first place. Good luck though!

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Suj December 3, 2012 at 4:57 am

Hi Bob/Raj,

Got 189 Visa invite today with 60 points.
was checking my EOI : and God !!!!
i had mentioned my ‘Higher Secondary Education’(School Leaving exam) in education category
In the drop down had chosen:
–Other qualification or award recognized by assessing authority
instead of :
–Other
So , the mistake is : it was not assessed by any authority(as stated by [Other qualification or award recognized by assessing authority])

This ‘mistake’ will not make any difference to my points tally .
should i go ahead and apply for VISA and pay the fees ?
Wat does experience suggest ?

Suj

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BobinOz December 3, 2012 at 8:27 pm

Hi Suj

It’s difficult to know how they might look upon this one, not sure what to advise you here. As it doesn’t affect your points, hopefully you will be okay, but never say, I don’t know.

Do let us know what happens.

Bob

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Roy December 3, 2012 at 5:04 am

i got the invite for applying Visa tonight . Yahooooo!!!!!!!
So whats my expected action items after filling up the Visa form ?
i am married .
my wife has a passport .I am filling up the form and have mentioned her name/qualification/work exp etc.
Whats her action items ?

thanks all
Ron

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BobinOz December 3, 2012 at 9:32 pm

I’m not sure she has any action items Ron, I believe she will just be included in your application as long as you fill in all of her details on your form. Whatever documents or proofs you are asked to provide, just provide them. This is only my guess though, I have not been through this particular process myself.

Good luck and I hope it all goes smoothly.

Cheers

Bob

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Haroon December 5, 2012 at 12:16 am

Hello ROY

congratulation!!

I also got a invite and i filled up the form.Now i am going to pay the visa fees.Can you tell me where do i send the docs.What the doc required?

Do we need to upload them somewhere or send by post the original.

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Roy December 5, 2012 at 3:28 am

i also have the same question .
Bob . can you clarify this 1.
Whether we will have to upload scanned docs or send original 1s to Australia ?

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BobinOz December 5, 2012 at 8:55 pm

I don’t know the answer, I’ve not been through this process. Scanned documents won’t cut it long-term I wouldn’t think, originals or legally validated copies will be required at some point and I would imagine you would get clear instructions somewhere along the line as to where to send them.

Sorry I can’t help either of you more than this, it certainly seems this EOI process is a tad confusing. I hope it all works out well in the end.

Cheers

Bob

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Roy December 7, 2012 at 12:48 am

HI Haroon

thanks . did you make the payment ? i haven’t yet . don’t have a high limit Credit card yet.
share some updates. to roy.ronnyatgmaildotcom

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Roy December 10, 2012 at 4:53 pm

Hi Haroon ,

Sorry : my email : roy.ronny007@gmail.com. we can be in touch.

Roy

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Roy December 13, 2012 at 3:59 pm

My question is : after making payment for VISA – do we need to make a scanned certified/attested copy of :

Passport.
Education
marriage cert
IELTS
Skill Assessment cert
OR
is there some stat declaration.

Any1 submitted docs for VISA ?please advise.

From the look of it .. The documents that are required for the VISA requires to be attested and then scanned and uploaded . I saw the link — after making the payment for the VISA.

Rearding changes (suppose – u got narried / got kid ) before getting the visa in hand :
form 1022 needs to be filled and submitted to CO .

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BobinOz December 14, 2012 at 8:59 pm

Roy, I’m pretty sure you will need to get those documents certified by somebody who is qualified to do it, maybe a JP or somebody like that. That’s what we had to do with our documents, although I didn’t go through the EOI process, I’m just talking about our application for PR.

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sus February 17, 2013 at 2:03 am

Hi Haroon ,

Did you get a CO ? and when ?
I haven’t yet got a CO . Payment on 13 Dec/Ack on 14 dec 2012.
Losing patience.

Sus

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psdf February 17, 2013 at 12:57 pm

Sus,

Am also in the same situation as of yours.

EOI Invitation : Nov 16th
Payment on Dec 15/Ack on Dec16th 2012.

Still no news from CO or no single mails from any one :-(

Psdf

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sus February 17, 2013 at 5:17 pm

psdf,
is ur’s also 189 visa??let m knw wen u get ur CO assign…rite nw m uploading my documents..

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psdf February 18, 2013 at 12:36 am

Sus,

My Situation was : I was eligible for NSW sponcership for 190 visa . Hence raised EOI for 190. But I was getting 60 points for 189 visa as well . Hence raised EOI for 189 as well. Raised 190 on Oct 1st. And 189 on Oct 10 th. And agent sent all related documents and NSW application as well to NSW office by post. Since he said we get 190 invitation based on, once we sent our application forms and docs to them… But on Nov 15th, I got Invitation for 189. No news of 190 Visa. So I dont wanted to make delay in uploading docs and payment for 189…Hence uploaded docs on Dec 10th. Made payment on Dec 15th./ Ack on Dec 16th. After that no updates from any things or from anywhere… Status : still in progress. I didnt uploade medical and PCC docs. Waiting for CO. I heard CO assign takes months n months ….

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Sus February 18, 2013 at 1:46 am

psdf,
CO assign can take months and months ???I am surprised coz of the following info at another website expatforum.com :
Below is one timeline for a 189 visa :
ACS +ve: 05-06-2012 | IELTS – S:8.5 W:7.0 R:8.0 L:7.5 | EOI: 14-07-2012 | 189 Invite/App: 15 Sep / 21 Sep 2012 | ACK: 28 Sep Meds: 23 Oct CO: 24 Oct External Checks: 08 Nov

i.e. CO got assigned in 30-40 days max ..
Some other time lines shared by ppl on the same site are also similar.– 30 – 40 days or even less.all in 2012.
I haven’t come across a 2013 timeline yet.

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psdf February 18, 2013 at 3:05 am

Sus,

Initial round of EOI Invitations got CO within few days or few weeks.. Because of few invitations. But each invitation round, invitations increased .. Hence gradually CO assigning time increased… Hence , now it takes around 3 months I guess, according my Agent.

Psdf

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psdf February 18, 2013 at 3:06 am

Sus,

Whats External Checks ?

Psdf

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sus February 18, 2013 at 3:44 am

Maybe u ar right.now , now(2013) more invites and longer backlogs.
+ XMAS and New year comes with 3 weeks holidays for COs also.

ext checks . i guess are PCC etc.In some cases , i have seen PCC taking upto 3 months also …so i guess. you can apply for PCC and get the ball rolling on that front.
I guess , we don’t have to wait for CO for that.

sus February 19, 2013 at 3:35 am

psdf ,

I got CO assigned today.
EOI – 27 oct/Invite- 3rd Dec/payment : 13 Dec 2012/ack – 14 Dec 2012/18 Feb 2013 CO assigned.

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psdf February 19, 2013 at 11:07 pm

Hey Sus,

Congrats…..Great to hear dat your wait is ended.. Still my wait is going on…..

Please update how the process is going on , once the CO assigned ?

Ian Webster December 3, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Hi Bob.
Can you help me I have PR and i am going for my citizenship test this week. I am trying to get my daughter over here with my grandson and her defacto partner. She is 23 and him to my daughter has a first class honours degree in quantity surveying, which is also on all the skills in demand lists. The problem she is having is she has no experience in that field and hence no application can be made till her skills have been assessed, same result the AQIS will not assess without 2 years experience. Its getting more than a little frustrating now as we have not seen our grandson for a few months.
I have decided to bring her here with her family in january on a tourist visa and try to get her a substantial visa from here, any suggestions.

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BobinOz December 3, 2012 at 9:35 pm

Yes, I would suggest you check out my Visa Assessment Service, it’s exactly what you need as it will tell you precisely the best path to take to try and secure a visa for your daughter and her family. It’s not a free service, but worth every penny and I highly recommend my MARA agent who will deal with you. Good luck!

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VJ December 4, 2012 at 3:43 am

What is the chances of getting the PR, once I have been invited to apply under sublass 189 ( 65 points). HOw long will it take?

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MARA Miki December 6, 2012 at 11:27 pm

VJ,

You being invited means you did qualify for the visa. As long as you were honest and have all supporting evidence. You should be able to get the visa within a reasonable time (probably still a few months at this stage)

Best Regards

Miki
Registered Migration Agent

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Roy December 10, 2012 at 5:01 pm

I have received the Invite for VISA(189) . We are ready to make the payment etc. However I am expecting a kid in January2013.So if i submit the visa application now , can i include the child later on ? How ?

Roy

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BobinOz December 10, 2012 at 8:16 pm

Not sure about that one, anyone else know?

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Yasir Khan December 20, 2012 at 8:13 pm

I have the same situation. No, you can’t and shouldnt include the unborn child in dependent. There is something written in the booklet 6 regarding this. If you get a child later, you need to fill up an additional form with all the details and send to DIAC immediately and they would add the new member in your application, no matter at which stage your application would be at that time. No worries at all. Hope it helps. Read the guide book and you ‘ll find the answer.
Good Luck

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MARA Miki December 21, 2012 at 11:02 am

Hi Roy,

as said previously you wont be able to add an unborn however you can add the baby as soon as the baby is born by filling out a form as per:

You must inform DIAC of any change in your circumstances that affects any answer to a question in your
application form, for example:
 you change residential address for more than 14 days
 the composition of your family changes as a result of birth or death
 your relationship status changes (eg married, separated, divorced, ceased)
 you intend to travel outside Australia
 the financial circumstances of your sponsor or your assurer change
 changes occur affecting your name, passport, character, health.
If you wish to withdraw your application, your letter must include the names and dates of birth of each
applicant who is withdrawing, and the RID number for the application
and it must be signed by each person aged 18 years or over.
You may use Form 1022 Notification of Changes in Circumstances available from our website, to provide
us with this information. Please send this information to the office processing your application

Miki

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Bill December 11, 2012 at 1:04 am

Hi Bob,

I am just wondering about whether “Perth” is still considered as a regional area as declared in the year 2011 July .Do you have any idea on that. I could claim extra 5 points on that.
I would appreciate all your assistance.
cheers,
Bill

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BobinOz December 12, 2012 at 1:23 pm

My answer is “I think so”, but you probably want something more assured than that. As you say, it became regional in 2011 and I have not seen anything to change that status. Does anybody have a more definitive answer?

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MARA Miki December 12, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Archana December 11, 2012 at 4:48 am

Hi,
I filled up my EOI and got an invite as well, however I realized that for the category asking for prev. Work experience in Australia I marked “no” by mistake and realized my mistake only when I got the invite that I should have marked it as yes as I have worked in Australia before. This will also increase my points to 70 from 65. In that case do I have to wait till this EOI expires and then file a new one or can I apply my visa and it will not matter as it affects my points positively.

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BobinOz December 12, 2012 at 1:26 pm

I can’t really advise you what to do here, I just don’t know what the correct answer is. If it were me though, I would push ahead with the application because, as you say, you actually have more points than you have originally claimed. Sorry I can’t give you a more definitive answer either, but this EOI thing is full of grey.

Good luck!

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MARA Miki December 12, 2012 at 1:56 pm

Hi Archana,

You can go back and modify your EOI anytime you want to. It changes your number in the line, but it also gives you your 5 points which means you have better chance

Miki

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Jules December 17, 2012 at 12:02 am

Dear Bob/Miki,

Would it be fair to say then that one should not submit an EOI unless one is absolutely ready to up and move to Australia, because of the 60 day window for applying.

For example, I would realistically see myself being able to theoretically move to Australia in June 2013, after sorting out various issues here, including gathering up the funds to pay for visa’s, flights etc.

But if I put in an EOI now, theoretically they could give me a window of 60 days from January to February to apply and pay and everything?

So would it be best to hold off on an EOI until one had all ones ducks in a row, as such?

Thanks if you can help and seasons greetings to you guys. Your site has been of great inspiration and help to me!

All the best, Jules

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MARA Miki December 17, 2012 at 12:09 pm

Hi Jules,

Your EOI can be in the system for up to two years with no invitation to apply for a visa. Same time the 60 days is the time given to you from the date of the invitation to lodge a valid visa application. From that point DIAC has to make a decision (more time)

So, if i was you i’d surprise myself with an EOI reference number for xmas. If you lucky enough to get invited in (just an example) January you have still plenty of time to sort out your issues back home.
Also, given a visa from 1 July doesn’t mean if you not in Australia within 48 hours your visa gets cancelled. There is obviously a time frame for you to enter the country, but it is a bit longer than a few weeks

Miki

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suj December 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm

i agree with Miki.
Jones , u go ahead and file the EOI . Then ,its a waiting game and luck . Minimum 1 month — max 2 yrs to get VISA invite . Even if 1 month — then u get 2 months to pay VISA fees.– Then again wait …for processing etc. Then — finally a VISA and a time window to enter Aus.Hence,Plenty of time fillers in between you see.

Suj

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Jules December 20, 2012 at 10:49 pm

Thanks Miki and Suj for the advice. I shall go ahead!

All the best, Jules

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Bhupesh December 17, 2012 at 2:49 pm

My Temporary Residence (T.R.) is about to expired in January. Is there will be any difference in applying for EOI before leaving back while I am here in Australia? Do I will get any benefit of my Australian study and stay (TR), if I apply from overseas?
Looking forward for reply
Thanks

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MARA Miki December 21, 2012 at 11:03 am

hi Bhupesh,

The points you get for your study and for the Australian work experience is the same onshore and offshore so it wont make much difference

Miki

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sanjaya December 17, 2012 at 5:29 pm

I already have IELTS 6 each band and have pass mark for 60. as per my understanding i can sumbit EOI now with IELTS 6 each band result. BUt i hope to do IELTS again and try to get 7 for each band. So what i know is that can i update my IELTS result from 6 to 7 if i get 7 marks for IELTS?

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MARA Miki December 21, 2012 at 11:05 am

You can update your EOI any time. This includes employment records etc. If you get 7 band EACH in IELTS you can upload the new result and enjoy the benefits on the additional 10 points

Miki

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BobinOz December 18, 2012 at 12:37 pm

Bhupesh & sanjaya, sorry, both technical questions about visa applications that I can’t help with.

Bob

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sanjaya December 20, 2012 at 10:15 pm

1). Already i have IELTS 6 for each band and going to apply under state sponsorship (190). mean while i hope to do another round of IELTS and can i update my IELTS result if i got 7 each band ?

2). can anyone tell me the flow of process on state sponsorship (190) in details ?

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sanjaya December 20, 2012 at 10:27 pm

is there any blog which shows Australian migration statistics like
1). EOI start date
2). date which got invitation
3). visa invited date

then we can roughly get an idea how long take to migration process .
pls repy ..

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NottySaint April 23, 2014 at 5:06 pm

Click on the link http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/ >Select Reports Tab>SkillSelect [DATE] Invitation Round Results

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Malek December 20, 2012 at 10:29 pm

Hi Bob and All,
This is really a very helpful site. Thanks for this effort.
I received an invitation to lodge my visa application. In my EOI, I added up the partner 5 points; however, after a deep reading of the skillselect website, I figured out that she should have at least 6 in all bands, not as average, which was not the case when submitting our EOI.

Fortunately, she was going to sit another IELTS test to submit another EOI under her name if her points are higher to increase the chance to get in. She got 6 and more in all band in her last IELTS test (results come out after my invitation).

Now, the new IELTS date is after the invitation but satisfies the band condition (more than 6) while the old one is before the invitation date but doesn’t satisfy the band condition (6 in all bands). Can we lodge our application with the new IELTS, or it will be rejected. If it will be rejected, what do you recommend to do (create a new EOI, wait 60 days, etc)?

Note: I found in the Visa booklet this line in the partner point “at time of invitation”, does this mean before the invitation was issued or during the invitation time – i.e. the 60 days of the invitation?

Thanks in advance.
Malek

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sanjaya December 20, 2012 at 10:33 pm

hi Malek,

how long it took to get the invitation? is it a state sponsorship (190)?
pls tell me when did u submit EIO and when did u get the invitation?

rgds,
Sanjaya

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Malek December 20, 2012 at 10:41 pm

It took for my case 4 months. I’m applying for 189 Visa.
Hope this helps.

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sanjaya December 20, 2012 at 10:43 pm

Thanks Malek.
Wish you all the best :)

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Adam December 23, 2012 at 2:30 am

Hi Bob and all,

After submiting the EOI under 189 visa class, how much time it takes to have an answer !. Thank you

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BobinOz December 24, 2012 at 2:59 pm

There is no set time Adam, it varies from application to application. It could be two weeks, it could be two years. I hope your wait isn’t too long.

Cheers

Bob

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luigi December 25, 2012 at 3:04 pm

hi bob and to all,

i submmited an eoi last novmber and found out that i made some slight typographical error on the date of my employment. i entered the wrong day on the date but this not affect the years of experience since the error was only the day. when i was trying to edit it the eoi was frozen and found out that i got an invitation. will i get banned for this kind of mistake?

thanks

luigi

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BobinOz December 28, 2012 at 8:31 pm

I don’t think so, but I can’t speak on behalf of DIAC. If it doesn’t affect your points total, I’m pretty sure they will be lenient of this kind of error. Good luck!

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Sabrina December 26, 2012 at 6:52 pm

Hi,

Me and my husband are planning to apply for cat 189 visa. My total point exceeds 60. However, if I have my husband do the engineering assessment, we get an extra 5 points. Will this give us an edge?

Thanks
Sabrina

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BobinOz December 28, 2012 at 9:32 pm

The more points the merrier, but on the downside won’t the assessment take a while? Whether it’s worth waiting or not, I couldn’t say. Good luck though!

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sanje December 26, 2012 at 7:15 pm

Hi Binozz,

What is the first thing i have to do under 190 category ? (Already i have IELTS and Skill assessment)

1. Submit EOI
or
2. Requesting sponsorship from particular state /

thanks

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BobinOz January 2, 2013 at 7:37 pm

I’m not sure, I thought they were kind of the same thing in a way? Surely by submitting your EOI and nominating whichever states or state you decide to nominate that you are effectively requesting sponsorship? Maybe someone else could enlighten us?

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Siddharth December 31, 2012 at 12:30 pm

Dear BobinOZ,

Looks like the EOI is the right way for Australia to acquire the right people based on skills. I am currently pursuing my Masters of IT (Networking & Security) at Monash Uni and I was just trying to figure out if I am qualified to be granted a work visa (PR) for Australia. I think my case might be a little confusing & complicated, so before I visit a MARA agent, I would like your advice.

I completed my Bachelor of IT(IT Security) from Deakin University (2008 – 2010) with Distinction. I then left Oz as soon as I received my last semester results (as I did not have intention of staying in Oz after studies) and returned home (Bangalore, India). Based on my qualifications, I joined a MNC in the field of Network Security within 3 weeks of my return from Oz. My career progressed in this field (Network / IT Security) and I worked close to a year and half.

Then, something jolted me and I realised that a Masters degree in IT would do wonders to my career. So, I applied for a student visa to Oz a second time (as my earlier student visa had well expired), did my IELTS again (strange thing to do as I had already graduated from Oz!) and secured a seat at Monash Uni.

I have finished my first sem at Monash and have two more left. Based on this, I have the below doubts regarding application for PR through EOI.
1) According to the points system, would I be granted points for my Bachelor’s of IT from Deakin Uni? (As I finised in November, 2010 and returned back home)
2) If i am eligible to apply, can I complete my skills assesment with ACS, complete IELTS (again!!) and submit an EOI while I am still pursuing my Masters of IT at Monash Uni with a student visa?
3) I have also been offered a Tutor’s post at University for an IT unit. So is there any way I can use this to boost my chances of my EOI to be successfull? (But, I would want to continue my career in the field of Network / IT Security and no other field)

Sorry for the lengthy post, but I am at loggerheads since I started researching about my eligibility to work in Australia.

Happy new year in advance.

Cheers,
Sid

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MARA Miki January 2, 2013 at 11:38 am

Hi Sid,

You get the same points for masters degree and for bachelor degree, and bachelor is enough for the skills assessment. You could submit your EOI while studying and work as a tutor as long as it is within your visa condition (work restriction)

By all means, i am not sure whether or not you qualify, as i dont have enough information, so this was a very general answer.

Miki

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BobinOz January 3, 2013 at 12:48 am

Hi Sid

Just so you know, Miki is a MARA migration agent and works with me on this website, he knows more than I do about this sort of thing. Actually, that’s an understatement, I can’t answer your question, he has :-)

If you do get around to talking to a migration agent, I suggest you consider starting with my Visa Assessment Service which is, of course, done by Miki.

Good luck!

Bob

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ahmed January 1, 2013 at 1:39 am

Hi Bob

Thanks for your feedback – I submitted my online visa for application for GSM 189. I do have a concern – my application was submitted on the last day of the EOI deadline i.e. 31st Dec. Therefore soon (around half an hour) after submitting the application and successfully uploading one of the docs i received a message in my mail saying that my EOI has expired.
My deadline was the 31st and I was within the deadline of the 31st for this as per Australian time

I’m really concerned now with regard to the status of my application and also about the payment made ?

I would really appreciate any advice

Regards
Makarim

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MARA Miki January 2, 2013 at 11:41 am

Makarim,

Not sure i understand the 31 Dec deadline for EOI or for the subclass189 application.
There was a deadline for a few specific visas but not for the above mentioned. You may need to clarify this with DIAC

BTW, don’t leave things last minute, as DIAC’s website is about as reliable as any and problems bound to happen!

Miki

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Makarim January 8, 2013 at 6:22 am

Hi Miki

Thanks for the reply – I have a got an official confirmation from DIAC on submission of the application “aka” the acknowledgement letter. Now need to figure something out for submitting the docs and hope a case officer contacts

Thanks
Makarim

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MARA Miki January 8, 2013 at 4:54 pm

Makarim,

You can go on immi.gov.au and attach the documents to the application as long as you have the TRN and your password!

Good Luck!

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suresh kumar t January 7, 2013 at 12:22 am

Hi,

I got an invitation. I have to apply for visa. At present i am working in India.
I have 11.7 years of experience, out of this worked in India for 9.9 years from June 2001 to October 2005 and from September 2007 till now. Previously i worked in Oman for 1.10 Years during November 2005 to August 2007.
Do i need to get Police clearance Certificate from Oman also for the same.
I applied for Police Clearance Certificate in India and will be getting in another week of time as my nationality belongs to Indian.
Please clarify my doubt and do the needful.
In worst case, i have to get it please let me know the details in order to get the same. If i am unable to submit the same do my visa get rejected.

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BobinOz January 7, 2013 at 3:13 pm

I’m not sure about that one, sorry. Maybe you can find out from whoever is dealing with your case?

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Sanje January 7, 2013 at 4:42 pm

i requested sponsorship with IELTS 6 from NSW and still i didn’t get any response(minimum requrement is IELTS 6 for NSW) . However i did IELTS again and got 7 for each band :) . i want to request sponsorship again from same state.But the thing is that as i said early i requested before sponsorship before. but no any response.

What do you think. Can i ask sponsorship again but first request still in processing on their side ? (processing mean : i didn’t get ant feedback from them)

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BobinOz January 8, 2013 at 9:32 pm

Not sure, can you update your original sponsorship with your new band 7?

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sanje January 8, 2013 at 9:41 pm

not sure :(
i am going to fill new application and send them by post. There is no online application for NSW.

i so confuse… please help me..

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Simi January 8, 2013 at 1:42 am

I AM A NURSE , I have IELTS WITH 7.5 SCORE. I HAVE APPLIED FOR EOI IN THE MONTH DECEMBER 2012, I OPTED FOR STATE OF VICTORIA, HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO PROCESS IT

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BobinOz January 8, 2013 at 9:32 pm

There is no set time for processing, it’s different for everybody.

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Stephen January 8, 2013 at 2:29 am

hi bob/raj
Just wondering what is the time frame i have to pay for my visa after my EOI has been accepted and im told i can apply for my visa.

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MARA Miki January 8, 2013 at 4:52 pm

Stephen,

The last page of your application is the payment screen… it is a criteria of a valid application so as soon as you apply (within 60 day from day of invitation). If you are subject to secondary VAC, you’ll have to pay that when the case officer requests it, normally right before grant

Miki

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Stephen January 9, 2013 at 11:00 pm

So is that with in the 60 days?

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Stephen Conway January 10, 2013 at 6:05 pm

Miki

If I’m granted the visa do I have to pay within the 60 days??

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MARA Miki January 11, 2013 at 4:12 pm

Hi Stephen,

You have to pay before you can actually submit the visa application. So it is within 60 days from being invited, at time of lodgement

Miki

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Atul H January 8, 2013 at 10:25 pm

Hi Bob,

I have done with my skill assessment and the only thing remaining is IELTS. I will be reappearing for IELTS(As I have just missed by .5 band in writing) in Feb 14 and will get result by 27feb.

Once I get 7 in this test I will apply for EOI. I am a software engineer and will be applying for VISA189.Till Dec round of EOI, ceiling for my skill(software eng) is not yet full.

Can you please tell me as what is the last date to apply for EOI and if thers is no last date , what is the recomended date by which one should apply for EOI.

I am just stuck because of my IELTS score and worried if i get late for EOI, I may not get visa.

Thanks,
Atul

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BobinOz January 9, 2013 at 12:56 am

I’m not sure there is a last date, isn’t it on going? Bottom line Atul, is I don’t know the answer to your question, but I just thought you can submit your EOI whenever you are ready until such time that DIAC changes the rules. Good luck with your IELTS!

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Atul H January 9, 2013 at 10:22 pm

Hey Thanks for the help Bob..

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MARA Miki January 9, 2013 at 9:32 am

Atul, and everyone else as well,

The expression of interest is ONGOING and has no due date. Your EOI is you advising DIAC that you would like to migrate and you have the qualification/experience/age/English level etc that the country needs.

It is a bit more complex than “when one needs to submit”. It monitors the date of lodgement as well as the occupation, the points you possess, the visa type and many more information.

Good luck with the IELTS

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Atul H January 9, 2013 at 10:24 pm

Thanks Miki…

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Sanje January 9, 2013 at 1:46 pm

Already I have submitted a EOI with IELTS 6 and sent those details NSW for request for sponsorship.But STILL i didn’t get sponsorship from them.

After that again i did IELTS and got 7 each band.So now i want to apply VICTORIA and need to create new EOI with IELTS 7.
I think It is risky to update Previous EOI as those details are already sent to NSW.

Highly appreciate your comments on this.

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BobinOz January 9, 2013 at 8:32 pm

Sorry Sanje, I’m not sure what’s best either, I’d be guessing just like you.

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Sanje January 9, 2013 at 9:57 pm

anyway thank for your response. :)

anyone can help me??

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Ad January 9, 2013 at 3:09 pm

Hi Bob,

I have got an EOI invite to apply for the Subclass 189 VISA on 5th Jan. I will now apply for the VISA and pay the required fee. My question is how long will it take (approx) from here to get the VISA/PR and whats the process like?

Waiting eagerly for a response.

Thanks
Ad

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BobinOz January 9, 2013 at 8:30 pm

I’m afraid there is no set processing time, each case is different.

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RK January 10, 2013 at 10:51 am

Hi there,
I am in a strange situation as I have used one of the migration agents to fill out my EOI while waiting for state sponsorship. I have 60 points all together (including state sponsorship which I have received). I have received invitation from skill slect to apply for 190 visa. I have asked migartion agent to send my EOI so that I can double check as she filled out the form for 65 points, where she claimed 15 points for my Bachelors degree from overseas. I have no assessment to claim those points. I have diploma in Australia assessed by relevant authorities (which is not related to my Bachelors degree overseas) from which I can claim 10 points. I dont know why she claimed 15 points for overseas Bachelors which has not been assessed.
Now that I have invitation from skill select, I need to justify to DIAC how I claimed those 65 points. At this instance, i would like to ask you can I apply for visa using 60 points only using diploma in Australia instead of bachelors form overseas stating it was overlooked by my agent or I need to wait until the current invitation expires and re apply EOI? Any input would highly be appreciated.

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MARA Miki January 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm

RK,

Have some faith in the agent. The requirement is to have a degree. You’ll need to provide all education documents including your degree.

I can only assume that the agent used the same information to gain the nomination that she/he used for the EOI, and you possibly provided the agent with a copy of the degree.

I am an agent and i believe i do my job right. Most agents and lawyers do the same. Ask for an honest explanation from the person of how and why he/she put through the application the way it got lodged

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RK January 10, 2013 at 2:42 pm

Thanks Miki, I will certainly ask the agent and see how it goes. Have a good one.

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Hammad January 12, 2013 at 12:20 am

Hi,
I have received invitation to apply for 189 subclass visa. I have attached all documents and have paid the fees as well.
My query is regarding the police n health examinations.
Should I wait until someone contacts me for Immig Aus or go for these right now?
Btw I applied online n their are links on my application page as “complete health requirements for this applicant” and “obtain character assessment for this applicant”.
Secondly I don’t have any idea about the further process… like what will be the next steps.
Please Help!

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BobinOz January 14, 2013 at 5:14 pm

I’m only guessing, but I would think would be a good idea to go ahead and get those checks done. Anyone else know the answer to this one for sure?

I’m don’t know what the rest of the process is, I’m sure you will be informed of what to do by whomever is in charge of your case. Good luck!

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Suj January 20, 2013 at 5:25 am

HI Hammad,
I have the same query .. I have paid the fees and haven’t attached any doc yet.
Medicals and Police clearance — now or on being told ?
Does my wife (secondary applicant) also require Police Clearance (as seen from list of req docs)?

Suj

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sanje January 15, 2013 at 2:43 pm

HI ,
Hi ALL

I am also hope to apply NSW sponsorship under Software engineer(261313) category . My total point is 55. Sponsorship will give other 5 marks. BUT I HAVE ONLY 6 for IELTS.

I KNOW THEIR WEBSITE IS SAYING I CAN APPLY sponsorship with IELTS 6.
IT DOESN’T MEAN i am getting Sponsorship.

i know that i can apply with these IETLS result.

1. what is the POSSIBILITY of getting nomination from NSW with this IELTS 6 result ?

2. will they give extra consideration for people who have higher IELTS ?

pls help me.. i so appreciate your comments on this..
Thanks

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MARA Miki January 15, 2013 at 4:53 pm

Sanje,

It is like any other application. Application doesn’t mean guaranteed positive outcome. On the other hand if you don’t try you don’t get..

Not to scare you, however you aiming to apply for a visa having 60 points. Based on your theory you “MAY NOT GET IT because you only have..”

1. what is the POSSIBILITY of getting nomination from NSW with this IELTS 6 result ? if your IELTS meets the requirement your chances are reasonable

2. will they give extra consideration for people who have higher IELTS ? They probably have a stronger case

Miki

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sanje January 15, 2013 at 9:20 pm

Thanks Miki

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sanje January 15, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Thanks Miki.
Anyway i want to clarify below question too.. pls advice me.

Person A : IELTS 7
Person B : IELTS 6

Suppose that BOTH have same Points .It is 60.

then Person A is getting any Priority ?

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MARA Miki January 16, 2013 at 10:21 am

Sanje,

I dont know. You cant compare someone with IELTS6 and IELTS7 and both having 60 points.
Why? 7 gives you 10 points, therefore the “A” guy has more experience, is in better age group, studied in Au, has better qualification, has a partner with skills etc.

You just need to lodge and wait. You meet the minimum criteria. That is all it matters.

Miki

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sanje January 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm

Thank you Miki.
i am going to lodge .. hope everything will goes well :)

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Sanje January 21, 2013 at 2:24 pm

Hi Miki,

Person A : IELTS 7
Person B : IELTS 6

suppose both have same education qualification. But Person A have less experience with Person B.
Person A : IELTS 7 , experience 5 years
Person B : IELTS 6 , experience 8 years and Study Aus

Then there is possibility of both have same points.(55)

then who will get better chance?

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BobinOz January 25, 2013 at 12:56 pm

Sanje, as Miki says, just lodge and wait. Those looking at your details will decide for themselves whether they think you are a better prospect than any of the other applicants, based on what they are looking for from an employee.

The questions you are asking simply cannot be answered in any other way.

Good luck!

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Sanje January 20, 2014 at 3:02 pm

Hi BobinOz and all,

finally i got Grant hip hip hurreyyy :) :)

really thanks for all who gave support . specially BobinOz .

this forum was very helpful.keep it up.

Good luck all

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BobinOz January 21, 2014 at 7:52 pm

Congrats Sanje, glad it worked out. Cheers, Bob

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Subhashini January 15, 2013 at 6:59 pm

Hi Bob,
My husband is invited under 189. I would be a dependent with him however I do not have my degree certificates to prove my education as of now. Can he apply now and add me later?

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BobinOz January 16, 2013 at 12:02 am

Did he get any extra points because you have a degree?

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Subhashini January 16, 2013 at 5:37 am

Hi Bob, no he didn’t.
Subhashini

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Subhashini January 16, 2013 at 5:19 pm

Hi Bob, appreciate any advice you have for me please

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BobinOz January 16, 2013 at 9:51 pm

I suspect so, but I really don’t know for sure because I am not a MARA migration agent. If I were you, I’d seek professional advice just to make sure everything goes smoothly.

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syed January 16, 2013 at 7:59 pm

Hi,
can i apply eoi from overseas.
i have been in australia for 4yrs on student visa.
I have done master in information technology and information system, and i completed in nov 2011. i dont have any work experience..
i got ielts score:7 bands in each.=10
age point .30
australian eduacation :5 points , and bachelor education :15 points (overseas)….

pls reply ..

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BobinOz January 17, 2013 at 1:53 pm

Yes, you can apply from overseas, sounds like you have enough points as well. Good luck!

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michelle January 17, 2013 at 10:51 am

do you know if state sponsorship for PR onto a 190 from a 457 also involves a charge? NT are going to sponsor us…was hoping there wouldn’t be a charge having already gone through the pain of the 457 application…?

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MARA Miki January 17, 2013 at 11:34 am

Hi Michelle,

The 190 is a separate visa with separate application fee’s etc. I am assuming you already applied for the NT nomination.
The VAC itself if $3060 and there is quite a bit of other cost depending on what you had done for the 457 already

Miki

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Sanje January 21, 2013 at 2:45 pm

Hi All,

I am software engineer and already i have IELTS 6. Total point 55 without Sponsorship mark. Currently i have hand over this task to Agent and already got ACS and created EOI and requested sponsorship form NSW.But i am not sure that i will get sponsorship with IELTS 6. However the AGENT DON’T GIVE ANY CREDENTIAL FOR ME ( EOI,ACS ) .

However i did IELTS again and got IETS 7 and hope to apply VIC with new EOI WITHOUT A THE AGENT.
what i want to know is it ok to create new EOI ? will they reject my new EOI ?
of what should i do ??

appreciate you all helpp.

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MARA Miki January 21, 2013 at 5:00 pm

Sanje,

All agents are obliged to follow the Code of Conduct (which you can download from the mara website). You have the right to have your information ACS/EOI etc. IF he/she refuses to give information you can take it up with MARA.

Not here to question you or your agent, but you better sort this out otherwise how will you upload a new EOI? With no ACS documents?!

Miki

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Sanje January 24, 2013 at 2:16 pm

HI Miki,
I downloaded the particular document but i couldn’t find relevant code of conduct part regarding the above matter. could you please send me particular page in code of conduct document ?

thanks in advance :)

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Sanje January 21, 2013 at 5:04 pm

Thanks Miki for your quick and priceless comments. I will check MARA . :) :)

Anyway think However I got a ACS result doc. Then can i create new EOI with my IELTS 7 without withdraw my previous EOI?

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BobinOz January 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm

Sanje, you have an agent, so you need to get this information from them, that’s what you pay them for.

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Sanje January 28, 2013 at 6:08 pm

the thing is that they dont like to give chance to work alone our self as they lost their business.
always they give abstract information NOT detailed one.

other thing is that they charge USD 200 for just fill the EOI .. it is not fairrr

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Dave January 23, 2013 at 3:42 pm

Folks,
Here is my story . I submitted my EOI after my IELTS (7) and skill assesment from the ACS . I have 10 years of work experience and a Masters Degree. ACS has acknowledged my Masters Degree but awarded me only 7 years and 9 months for my work experience as I dont have a reference letter from my first job way back in 2002.
I have now received an invitation to apply and I am claiming 15 points for a Masters degree and 8 years of overseas experience . Do you think the DIAC will overlook the 3 months and give me the 15 points ? Also, the skill assesment letter was dated Feb 2012 . So I could send the DIAC another reference letter from my current employer stating that I am working in the same capacity for the last 1 year. That should more than take care of the 3 months that I am short.
Any advice is appreciated .

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MARA Miki January 24, 2013 at 9:10 am

Dave,

DIAC isn’t know to be overlooking details like this. Submit the new reference letter as well as any documents you may have from the job; tax return documents, if you have the contract hiding somewhere, an affidavit with some evidence.
I am not saying they will take it, but you need to try. You’ll def need the new reference letter tho

Miki

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Matthew T-J January 28, 2013 at 1:19 am

Hi, I have a couple of queries that I am hoping to resolve as soon as possible and was wondering if you could help me.

I have very recently received an email from skills select saying that my current EOI, which I started but not finished because I haven’t undertaken a skills assessment, is incomplete and if I don’t complete it by the 3rd February then I will miss out on the invitation round. If I miss this round, will there be another round of invitations this year? Should I withdraw the incomplete EOI?

Also, I am about to submit an online skills assessment through VETASSESS, will I need to attach documents such as qualification transcripts and work references for the assessment?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

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MARA Miki January 30, 2013 at 7:52 am

Hi Matt,

There will be several invitation rounds, you wont be missing out. You will also need your VETASSESS result to be uploaded to be able to qualify

Miki

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Sanje January 28, 2013 at 2:29 pm

HI All,
Suppose i received the State sponsorship from NSW today,
1. Then who will send the Invitation ? (NSW/ Immigration Dep/ or someone else)
2.How long it takes to get invitation roughly ?
3. is it 100% sure that i am getting invitation oneday?
4. if by any chance Aus changes the immigration rules in this july, at what state should i be to no belongs to that rules ?

appreciate you all comments . Thanks

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MARA Miki January 30, 2013 at 7:48 am

Sanje,

Without being rude i must advise you to sort your issues out with your agent/lawyer. You paying a fee i assuming.

Most of your questions relates to information that you can either look up on the immi website, was answered on this site previously or based on “if”/ “suppose” situations.

I am prety sure you’ve heard the saying, there are only 2 things are 100% sure in life, death and taxes…

Either address your agent or probably find another agent. Or just wait and see what will happen. The visa process is hard and stressful for most, however it is nothing compare to the stress involved with starting a new life here.

Miki

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Sanje January 31, 2013 at 9:11 pm

Thanks for your comments anyways.

always we cant keep trust on agent always as what they want is money . :) whatever they say for getting money.

And other thing is that do you mentioned is that i need to ask these questions from the agent. if so this site only for people who don’t have an agent ?

we need to clarify 100% .that’s why i am asking again and again.

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BobinOz January 31, 2013 at 10:09 pm

Sanje, Miki is a MARA agent, he has answered a ton of your questions, even the “what ifs”. He hasn’t asked for any money, and frankly you have wasted his time by repeatedly asking “again and again”.

After all of this, you feel it’s okay to come back and say that agents only want money?

Please do not ask any more questions on here, you are simply not welcome. You sound like the kind of guy that only wants something for free.

Good luck!

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Sanje February 1, 2013 at 12:09 am

Hi BobinOz,

I am not talking about all agent.only about my agent. really sorry for that.

why i am asking same question again and again because of i couldn’t get much information from my agent.:( if i paid .i cant get sufficient information.

anyway really sorry if i do something annoying for you all.

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Matthew T-J January 31, 2013 at 3:38 am

Hi Miki,
Many thanks for your response, I really appreciate the information.

My EOI is currently standing as incomplete because I haven’t completed a skills assessment yet, would there be any implications of withdrawing the EOI or would it make any difference leaving it stand incomplete?

Also, I am looking to bring my partner with me on my skilled migration visa, is there any limit on the amount of time we’ve been together to qualify for her to be on the visa? Would I need to submit evidence of cohabiting at the EOI stage.

Many thanks again,
Matthew

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BobinOz January 31, 2013 at 8:40 pm

Hi Matthew

For your partner, you would need to prove you have lived together as “man and wife” for a minimum of 12 months, you will be asked to prove that by way of joint mortgage/tenancy agreement, joint utility bills, that sort of thing.

Not sure about your other question, maybe just submit your assessment as soon as you’ve got it?

Cheers

Bob

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Raquel January 31, 2013 at 9:21 pm

Hi,
I just engaged with my partner last month.
Can I apply for 5 point partner in EOI now as we have plan to be married in the end of this year?

Thanks Raquel

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BobinOz February 1, 2013 at 4:34 pm

Not sure about that one Raquel, I’m not really sure how it all works or the particulars of your case. Can’t help I’m afraid.

Thanks

Bob

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ANUJ GROVER February 1, 2013 at 5:30 pm

Hi Bob,

Great Blog to read.. Thanks for all the info. I am planning to submit an EOI soon. Had a doubt that if i am not invited/ or my EOI is rejected is there a time limit when i can re-apply? I know about Visa applications & if rejected one cannot reapply for a few months. Does the EOI work the same way?
I am also planning to lodge a Visa Application through an Immigrations but also want to try putting the EOI myself. Kindly Advice. Will appreciate a prompt response.
Thanks & Kind Regards,
Anuj.

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BobinOz February 3, 2013 at 9:27 pm

Can’t help with these specific questions, if I could I’d be a MARA agent. I know this process can be tricky and if you are considering using an agent, I highly recommend my guy, check out my Visa Assessment Service.

Bob

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ANUJ GROVER February 3, 2013 at 9:37 pm

Thanks Bob.. Appreciate your response. Maybe you can help with a another question i had in mind that can me and my wife make separate EOI’s? Hope this one’s not as specific as the last one .. Thanks again mate.

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BobinOz February 4, 2013 at 4:06 pm

I don’t see why not, you are separate people. Cheers!

Bob

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ANUJ GROVER February 4, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Appreciated !

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Sid February 5, 2013 at 6:49 pm

Hi,

I have been working in Australia Melbourne from last 2.5 years on 457 (WP) visa. I want to apply for permanent residency now , i jumped on the immigration web site and checked the point table and got a total o 55 points :
Following are the conditions
1) I have scored Overall 8 in IELTS and 9,8.5 , 7 and 6.5 in individual bands
2) My brother is a permanent resident of Australia and living in Sydney.

Question :

Is there any way i can get 60 points so that i can apply for EOI ? i mean state sponsorship or family sponsorship ?

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BobinOz February 5, 2013 at 9:51 pm

Yes, there possibly is a way for you to get those extra five points, but I wouldn’t know what it might be. If there is a way for you to get these extra points though, my MARA agent will know how, but you would have to provide him with lots of information and pay him a more than reasonable fee.

For details, see my Visa Assessment Service.

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Sagee February 11, 2013 at 6:44 pm

Hi All,

i have submitted my ACS skill assessment in December 12. So still it is with Assessor. So any one who got ACS assessment recently ? pls reply me…

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push February 12, 2013 at 2:40 am

Hi All,
A great website n quite informative blog to read.I have a question if somebody can answer it please.
Recently I have my skills accessed as Software engineer and my wife is a chef but can i claim the Partner skills based solely on her IELTS score(Band 6) as it will take quite a long time for her skills to get accessed by TRA and we wont want to miss the upcoming EOI round.What I mean to ask is,can IELTS band solely contribute to the partner skill?

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BobinOz February 12, 2013 at 9:47 pm

Sorry, I don’t know the answer to that one, hopefully someone else will be able to help you. Anybody?

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sush February 14, 2013 at 4:26 am

hi,
i want 2 add my newborn child information using frm 1022 which i’v downloaded frm wedsite.189 visa/CO not assigned/status “in progrss”..whom/which email/where 2 send filled up frm 1022 for immediate affect..

sush

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BobinOz February 14, 2013 at 1:20 pm

I don’t know the answer to that one, anybody else know?

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scorp February 15, 2013 at 8:19 pm

Can you tell me where it says this as I can’t find it anywhere. My EOI has been blocked because I got an invitation to apply under 489 family sponsored visa but I have since received sponsorship from Victoria so I want to apply under visa 190 which is my preferred visa. I’m not sure whether to just wait out the 60 days for the 489 invitation to lapse or if I should do another EOI for the 190 visa. Thanks.

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sus February 17, 2013 at 1:59 am

189 visa .
EOI – 27 oct/Invite- 3rd Dec/payment : 13 Dec 2012/ack – 14 Dec 2012

No CO allocated yet (60 + days of waiting) . i.e no mail from Immi.gov.au or anyone else from Aus.

WHY? WHY? WHY? Any1 else facing a similar situation ?

Sus

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padmy February 17, 2013 at 2:53 am

I have Got ACS for 8.5 years as software engineer. Masters Education. I got 60 points without State sponsorship. I have approached a agent(yaxis) in offshore (india). Agent suggested me to apply NSW state sponsorship. My agent has created one EOI for this and submitted. EOI for 190 (NSW SS) created in the month of November 2012. I got acknowledgment on Feb 8th 2013.

I have created one more EOI for 189 (independent visa) on Feb 12th 2013. and submitted that. I am just trying my luck whether I may get 189 invitation. My agent doesnt seem to be a nice person to apply for 189 and 190 while applying. He just checked only 190.

Now I am worried should I withdraw/suspend the second one created as I am fearing my profile will be banned as I have submitted two EOIs.

Kindly let me know what should i do. I will be grately thankful. I am worried and tense.

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psdf February 17, 2013 at 1:00 pm

Padmy,

Please share me your mail address to me.. So that I can get in touch with you.

Am also going through y-axis and with almost same situations as of yours.

Psdf

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padmy February 18, 2013 at 1:49 am

Thanks psdf, my email id is padmavathikuk@gmail.com; Do you have any views/suggestions on my situation. Not sure whether to be silent or withdraw one EOI.
In short, My agent created one EOI, applied for 190 for NSW state sponsorship. Though I got 60 points with out SS, my agent opted for only 190. I got my acknowledgement for this on FEB 8th 2013.

Feb 10th, i created one EOI for myself for 189 and submitted. I requested my agent to select both 189 and 190 option on the EOI created by them. But they told that they will not do so as against to DIAC. i understand they are not understood of the process.

Pleas let me know whether to withdraw to avoid any disciplinary actions by banning my profile. Will my profile be banned/blocked for submitted two EOIs.

Kindly suggest me so that I will withdraw my second EOI.

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MARA Miki February 18, 2013 at 12:54 pm

Psdf, Padmy,

I am not your agent so i cant tell you what his reason was not to do the 189, however, several states simply wont approve you nomination unless your EOI is set on ONLY subclass 190 and ONLY the given state as the preferred state.

Your occupation may also not on the SOL list for the 189, but on the CSOL list which needs the state/employer nomination

Miki

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scorp February 17, 2013 at 7:42 pm

Hi Bob,
Can you tell me where it says this as I can’t find it anywhere. My EOI has been blocked because I got an invitation to apply under 489 family sponsored visa but I have since received sponsorship from Victoria so I want to apply under visa 190 which is my preferred visa. I’m not sure whether to just wait out the 60 days for the 489 invitation to lapse or if I should do another EOI for the 190 visa. Thanks.

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BobinOz February 18, 2013 at 1:45 pm

Where it says what scorp?

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Karan Gaba July 5, 2014 at 11:34 am

Scorp, What did you do? my friend is in the same situation, his EOI is blocked as he has an invitation for 489 but he wants to wait for the 190 invitation.

Also if your invitation lapses, can you get another invitation later?

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Thilini February 17, 2013 at 11:39 pm

Hi
My Name is Thilini, I just want to is there any possibility to apply for Skill migration with out a degree? I have 9 yrs experience in logistics field….

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BobinOz February 18, 2013 at 1:51 pm

If you have enough points and your skill is on the list, then I don’t see why not. But to get a proper answer, and increase your chances of success, you might want to take a look at my Visa Assessment Service, it would be money well spent.

Good luck!

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psdf February 18, 2013 at 4:12 am

Sus

I dont know , how to process with PCC. Do we need to do PCC for each countries where we stayed ? how to do PCC ? can you please suggest..

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MARA Miki February 18, 2013 at 12:50 pm

There are requirements on where you need the police clearance from. You wont need it from every country you’ve ever been.
If you have lived in any one of them for a total of one year or more in the last 10 years, you must get a police certificate from the authorities in that country.
If you have spent a cumulative total of 12 months or more in the last 10 years working for the same employer on a merchant ship, cruise ship, private yacht or oil rig, you should request a police certificate from the relevant authority in the country under whose flag the ship sails or country of ownership of the rig.

Miki

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psdf February 18, 2013 at 1:03 pm

Miki,

Thanks and appreciate on your post and advise about my query.
I have stayed in US for more dan 12 months, hence from which authorities in US, I need to obtain this certificate ?

Thanks

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BobinOz February 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm

The police, I would think. In the UK, I went to the nearest police station to where I lived. I think you need to contact the police department from where you lived in the USA.

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psdf February 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm

Bob,

Thanks for this clarifications. Appreciated…

Psdf

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Atul H February 18, 2013 at 4:45 pm

Hi Bob,

I have a query about my Wifes last name on passport.

I Got married in 2010.
1) Now in our marriage certificate my wife’s last name is same as her maternal last name.
2) Her passport also has the same name as above.
3) Her passport does not have spouse name(my name) as it is not updated after marriage. It is not yet expired
3) I have recently renewed my passport and added spouse name as ” Wifes First name + My first Name + My Last name”

Now the question is
a) Do I need to change her name in her passport as it is mentioned in my passport (same as in point 3 above) ? Or should i keep as it is and just add my name in spouse name.

b) Is it necessary to add spouse name at all in her passport ? As her current passport ans marriage cert has same name

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BobinOz February 19, 2013 at 10:07 pm

I don’t know, I read your question twice and it made my head spin! Sorry Atul, this really isn’t something I can advise you on.

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preeti March 8, 2013 at 6:08 am

it does not matter i know it because i applied student dependent visa to accompany my husband in australia in 2010 with same condition as ur wife and diac granted me the visa
i think as far as u have all supporting doc of ur marriage like marriage certificates, photograph and prooff that ur wife is living with u.
everything will be fine

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ss February 19, 2013 at 5:40 am

Hi Bob,

Can we lodge more than one EOI?

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BobinOz February 19, 2013 at 10:09 pm

I don’t know what the technically correct answer is, but I have heard is not a good idea, it kind of dilutes what you’re trying to do and can lead to problems. So I wouldn’t advise it, but I would advise that you seek professional help to make sure you get it right if you are not sure how to best do this.

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MARA Miki February 20, 2013 at 10:35 am

SS,

The answer is yes. However not much of a point if applying for the same subclass. eg, lodging 2/3/4/5 sc189 EOIs will only overload the system and you’ll not gain anything as it isn’t a lotto/raffle type scheme.

MR

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sagee February 19, 2013 at 6:48 pm

i am worry about my medical as i am suffering from cholesterol.
will it be a reject reason from Visa process ?

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BobinOz February 19, 2013 at 10:10 pm

I really don’t think so, unless your condition is considered to be life threatening and potentially very expensive to treat.

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sagee February 20, 2013 at 6:23 pm

Really Thanks Bob . :)

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Leo February 20, 2013 at 12:39 am

Hi Bob,

Very informative blog, still can’t get the idea about how long it normally takes that you get picked out of the pool after expressing your interest in general skilled migration provided that you pass points test with excessive 5-10 points? I still have got a year to go to finish my masters and I strongly believe the whole system will experience significant changes however I prefer to gather intel in advance so to speak. Any hints or personal/professional experience in terms of time span of receiving that invitation to apply?

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BobinOz February 21, 2013 at 12:05 am

I have never used the system Leo, so I can’t offer any insights from personal experience, but as you say, by the time you get around to applying surely everything will be working quite differently. All I think I know is the more points you have the more chance you’ve got of being pulled out. So rack up the points!

Good luck

Bob

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pady February 20, 2013 at 1:27 am

Hi Bob,
While entering EOI details, I entered Given name value to Surname and Surname value to Given Name. for instance My Given Name is : PADMA and Surname is:PILLAI. But While submitted the EOI details, I interchanged the values Given name : Pillai and Surname :- PADMA. NO SPELLING MISTAKES ONNLY VALUEES INTERCHANGED.

Is this going to be a blunder mistake. I got invitation for 189. Please suggest.

Worried on this part.

Thanks,
PADMA

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MARA Miki February 20, 2013 at 10:25 am

I’ve never came across anything like this, but i cant see this being a drama. We all make silly mistakes. Your case officer will most likely be a human who has made the same mistake once like we all do

MR

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ANUJ GROVER February 20, 2013 at 6:28 pm

Hey Padma, You got your skills assessed by some authority prior to making the EOI?
how long did it take to get the assessment results?
And how long did it take to get the 189 invitation?
Will appreciate your comments.
thanks.

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pady February 21, 2013 at 12:48 pm

Hi Anuj Grover,
I got assesed my skills with ACS which took around 6 weeks of time to complete the assessment.
For 189 invitation it took around 6 weeks of time.

Thanks,
Padma

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ANUJ GROVER February 21, 2013 at 4:33 pm

Hey Padma,

Appreciate your reply. I’m based in mumbai and looking our for options to apply in Australia. Would appreciate if you could give me some guidance regarding the process. My email id is grover.anuj@gmail.com. Will be glad if you could drop in a line so i could send you my contact details/ or alternatively your could send me your contact details. What ever is suitable to you.

Best Luck for your Application.
Cheers,
Anuj.

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ss February 20, 2013 at 5:49 am

Hi Bob,

I have got 489( family sponsor) invitation. I am also eligible for 190 visa so I am planning to lodge 190 EOI but I can only lodge it after 60 days of 489. Please suggest me
1. should I ignore 489 inviation and lodge EOI for 190 on 61st day.
2. Should I apply 489 visa and then lodge EOI for 190.

Also how long it takes get CO for 489 Family spons?

Thanks in Advance

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MARA Miki February 20, 2013 at 10:22 am

This is not something we need to advise on. There are just choices you need to make.
You have an invitation but would risk it for being invited and wait for a nomination to be approved etc. You could put through an EOI right now if you want it. but i personally stick with the 489

CO seems to take 30-45 days at the moment but please dont quote me on this

MR

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Jorge February 21, 2013 at 5:36 am

Hi Bob,
I am applying for 190 state sponorship visa. How long it takes to get state nomination from NSW. My skills are assessed as Analyst Programmer. and I am working as Analyst Programmer in a company in NSW.

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pady February 22, 2013 at 3:45 am

Hi Jorge,

It would be better answer if you provide more information about your points and IELTS score.
Thanks.

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Jorge February 22, 2013 at 5:11 am

Hi Pady,

my ponits for 190 visa are 60. and my ielts score is 6.5 overall.

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pady February 21, 2013 at 12:50 pm

Hi,

Can any body tell me what is the processing time for 189 visa approval. I got my 189 visa invitation.
thanks in advance.
Thanks,
padma

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Anne February 22, 2013 at 3:15 pm

Hi,
would tell me at which stage we can edit our EOI and at which stage we can’t. Is there any costs? For example, I haven’t finished my study yet, but having enough point, however no skilled assessment by CPA. Then can I submit EOI and edit it later?

and can I make 2 EOI 1 for 189 and 1 for 489.
Does that 489 often take me longer time than 189?

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akanksha February 22, 2013 at 9:37 pm

hi,
i want to know that i am planning to move to Australia under 190 visa as i am an automation tester since last 6.5years…i m planning to switch the company i m currently working in..my question is suppose i file my ACS in march 1st week and i switch the company by serving the notice period of 3months…So can that be possible…can i switch the company after applying for ACS and before filing DIAC???i have heard that ACS is valid for 2 yrs.so i can switch the company???

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MARA Miki February 25, 2013 at 4:55 pm

There is no criteria that you need to be employed at time of application or until time of decision. general rule: keep your contracts and payslips in a folder from now on, they come handy during the process

Miki

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suj February 22, 2013 at 9:50 pm

get your references(for ACS) before leaving the company.
ACS certificate is valid for 2 yrs.Hence it doesn’t matter where u are working just before moving to Aus.Coz you may move to Aus anytime later than that also.

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Anne February 23, 2013 at 7:16 pm

Hi everyone,
can you please advise me about EOI process. I see many people can submit EOI more than 1, is this true that we can change the content ( like chaneg IELTS score) in our EOI and how. But when we can’t change anything? because some people fill the form wrongly, so how to correct it?

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MARA Miki February 25, 2013 at 2:07 pm

Anne,

You can update your EOI any time you want it or need it until the invitation. Keep in mind every modification gets you beck to the end of the queue.

You need to log into your profile and make the changes there

Miki

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stefen February 24, 2013 at 12:22 pm

Hi all,
My wife is a nurse and iam a technician working in Australia.We are planning to apply for for 189 visa so we approached a migration agent and submitted all our details.now the agent is raising some questions from us.
1)my wife has got overseas experience for 8 years and 11 months including the 1 year internship in same nursing.will that internship will be added as overseas experience?
2)she did her diploma in nursing.Once she came to Australia she got the registation and ANMC REGISTRATION in which it has been recognised as at least a bachelor degree for the purpose of awarding points for qualification under the skilled migration
points test.Question is in EOI What we have to put as educational qualification whether diploma or bachelor.
Kindly advise us
stefen
r

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MARA Miki February 25, 2013 at 2:11 pm

Stefen,

I wont be able to answer question 1 as i dont really deal with medical professionals much. Your agent should clarify this if he took on the case
as for question 2, if you dont have a bachelor you will need to put down as diploma. Keep in mind a lot of the European countries “diploma” actually means a degree, so you’d need to show your agent your qualification and clarify whether you have a bachelor degree (called diploma) completed at a university.

Miki

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Claire Barfoot February 27, 2013 at 6:56 pm

Can anyone help me please…. I’m trying to fill out an EOI to apply for a 189 visa for Oz and when I try to create password it won’t let me, I have used all the correct characters but with no success. It’s all so confusing, is there another form I need to complete first or can anyone offer any help, thanks

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Gregz February 28, 2013 at 11:26 pm

Hi Miki and bob,

Usually how long does it take to have the visa granted after finishing the medical exam? Thanks

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MARA Miki March 1, 2013 at 4:05 pm

Hi Gregz,

This is one of those “million dollar” questions. Unfortunately unable to answer. It depends on your circumstances, the evidence provided, the case officers case load etc.

If you have a strong case with all evidence provided in a correct format it shouldn’t take too long. (i know i am not helping here)

Good Luck
Miki

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Amit K March 1, 2013 at 2:27 am

I got 75 points in EOI filing, which were 70 in actual but my MARA agent filled one field incorrectly and it went to 75. Based on that, my Visa application was filed after paying the fees but now, case officer is asking for the evidence of 75 points. How can it be settled? Incidentally, in that cycle, people with 65 and 60 score also got the invitation and even with 70, I would have got the invitation but by that mistake of MARA agent, I am suffering… Please suggest the best way of resolution…

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MARA Miki March 1, 2013 at 4:01 pm

Amit,

This isnt a forum question. You need to take this up with your agent.
We don’t calculate the points when uploading, the system does. I base my EOI applications on the exact information you/clients provided.
It is a serious matter and you and the agent need to work this out asap.

Miki

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Furqan March 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm

Hi Amit,

The same situation happened with me, the only difference was that I did not involved any MARA agent while completing my EOI and my points were computed as 70 whereas in actual they were 65.

The good thing that I did was that I realised my mistake immediately (though I already made the payment for the visa application), and filled a form “Incorrect Information” and uploaded it at the same time. Also what I did was that I wrote to the department that since I have made this mistake I would like to withdraw my application and I would be obliged if they can refund my visa fees.

They took hell lot of time but they finally replied that my refund is approved and after around 8weekstime they refunded my visa fees. There was a deduction of approximately USD 320 which I believe must be the exchange difference between currencies.

Regards,

Furqan

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Farbod March 1, 2013 at 6:09 pm

Hi bob,
Do you know is it possible to withdraw an EOI after receiving an invitation for sc489?
If I submit another EOI while the previous one is still in 60 days period of waiting for apply for visa will the second EOI be considered for the same sc489 or not?
because of a mistake in my ACS, I had to apply for the new one and I haven’t received it yet. However, the invitation has been sent to me.

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Jon March 2, 2013 at 11:48 pm

Hi Bob,

Great article – just one question if I get the 189 visa and put my long term girlfriend down on the application and I get accepted can my girlfriend work in Oz as well? Or will she just been confined to just spending money rather than earning it?

Thanks

Jon

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BobinOz March 4, 2013 at 9:39 pm

Jon

If you can prove that your long-term girlfriend has lived with you for more than 12 months, then she will be considered as if she were your wife. On that basis, you’ll be pleased to hear, she’ll be able to go out and earn money too.

Cheers

Bob

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Jeroen March 3, 2013 at 8:38 pm

Dear Bob and Miki,

If an occupation is not on the SOL but is on the CSOL, this means State Nomination is required, correct?

Also, if that is correct, the first thing that needs to be done is get the State Nomination done before the EOI, is that correct?

Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Jeroen

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Jai March 4, 2013 at 12:45 pm

Hi Miki and Bob.
First of all thanks for all the information shared by you. Just reading through this, I was able to clear a lot of confusions that I had.
However, i am unsure of 1 thing and would request to share your views on this.

My current experience is 93 months. I have started collecting the required documents for skills assessment. If i do skills assessment now and generate an EOI after 3 months, will i get the points for 96 months of experience or will the experience be counted only upto the information submitted for skills assessment

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Farbod March 4, 2013 at 10:10 pm

Hi Bob,
1-Is it prohibited to have 2 EOIs at the same time for the same visa type(489) for SA? Althogh I have surfed the web specially skillselect web site, I coudn’t find the answer.
I received an invitation but because of an error in my assessment (just my work experience has been assessed and my qualification has not been considered) I can’t apply for the visa and I have to submit another EOI with the previous documents and new assessment which I have received just today; accordingly, I’m going to apply for state sponsorship again to get their approval again.
2- If not, do I have any chance to withdraw the previous one or any way to talk to DIAC and try to convince them to withdraw the current EOI?
Although I’m aware that I have to wait for the next 60 days to access the EOI again, I can’t wait because I may lose the chance of immigration ,whereas I am eligible based on current point test system.
please advice
Kind regards,
Farbod

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Mairaj March 6, 2013 at 1:17 am

To all dear friends who have received invitation under State / Territory nomination:

is it true that in the EOI, keeping the preferred location to “Any” reduces your chances to get an invite? has anyone received invitation keeping the preferred location to “Any”? i have heared that although there is an option for “Any” but a state would prefer to review your EOI only if you have selected that state in your preference, any guidance would be highly appreciated?

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MARA Miki March 7, 2013 at 9:52 pm

Imagine being a state and selecting someone who is willing to go “anywhere” rather than to you and you only.

Some state will not invite you unless you specifically selected the state and the correct visa type

Miki

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Mairaj March 9, 2013 at 9:30 pm

Thanks Miclos

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Keith March 6, 2013 at 12:14 pm

Hi all,
I was going through the 189 visa application in the new Skill Select system and came across this question:

“Has the applicant completed, or is currently enrolled in, any studies at secondary level or above?”

So my question is: is it absolutely *mandatory* for us (me and my partner) to provide every single certificate since secondary school?

Or would the qualification that was nominated suffice?

We ask because it’s proving to be a hassle to dig up all the old qualifications. Plus we there is no relevance to the nominated occupation whatsoever.

Many thanks! :)

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MARA Miki March 7, 2013 at 9:44 pm

Keith,

Not mandatory as far as i understand. On the other hand it is amazing that qualifications could relate to each other in many ways. It is all about interpretation.

One thing; make sure you have evidence if you include the certificate/qualification!

Miki

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Keith March 7, 2013 at 9:49 pm

Many thanks Miki!

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BobinOz March 6, 2013 at 8:27 pm

Hi all

I’m afraid I do not know the answers to any of your specific questions, I’d only be guessing if I tried to answer you. Miki does come in here to help out when he can, but he doesn’t always have the time to do that.

If any of you who have experience of submitting your EOI know any of the answers to the questions above, please do pop in here to help people out.

Cheers

Bob

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Sagee March 7, 2013 at 9:59 pm

Hi All,

can i know that at which stage should i submit my spouse IELTS proof ?

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MARA Miki March 8, 2013 at 1:27 pm

At time of application. You’ll need to upload the document with the rest of your evidences

Miki

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sagee March 9, 2013 at 1:38 am

what is mean of “at Time of application ” ?? is it Visa application or state nomination application ?

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Jorge March 8, 2013 at 5:42 am

Hi Bob/ Miki

I have got 489 invitation and 15 days left to expire. I would like to apply for 190 invitation after 489 invitation expire.
1. Can I lodge NSW state nomination now (without EOI submitted for 190)?
2. I have ielts result which is nearly 2 years old. Can I use it for another one year?

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MARA Miki March 8, 2013 at 1:25 pm

Hi Jorge,

1 As far as i remember you’ll need to have your EOI number at time of the NSW application
2 Yes

Miki

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Jorge March 8, 2013 at 3:24 pm

Thanks Miki,
I called NSW state nomination sydney office and he said “You can provide your EOI number anytime at the time of lodgement or after lodgement and it does not matter for us when you provide”

As I already have an EOI with 489 invitation. He said ” Lodge a new EOI for 190 visa”.

So thats the information I got from NSW state nomination Sydney office.

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Mairaj March 9, 2013 at 9:34 pm

Dear Freinds:

a very basic question about EOI details: In the education area, it says mention all details for secondary level and above. Is it okay to submit only bachelors details since that only will provide you the required points and nothing earlier would add any benefit, or is it necessary to start from O” / A” levels, as the case may be? Just trying to avoid submitting detailed records later on for something that doesnt add to any score.

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Kazi March 9, 2013 at 9:44 pm

Hi Bob,

I am a development practitioner engaged in community development work (not for profit). I have applied for a Skilled – Nominated (subclass 190) visa after getting the invitation (from Western Australia), and now have been asked to submit medical and police clearance documents. If everything goes well I am hoping I will get a visa by the end of this year. I am very much looking forward to it.

However, in the mean time I received an offer from my current employer to work in an west African country from January 2014 – the position and salary would be much better comparing to my present one. Taking this offer would be really good for my career also. But the problem is it requires a 3 years commitment. I am planning to take this offer and go to Africa first and then fulfill the requirement of staying in the nominated Aus state for 2 years during the last 2 years of the 5 year visa period.

Does the immigration law/rules say anything about this? Is there any requirement that I will have to spend the first 2 years of the 5 years visa in Aus or it could be any 2 years within the five year period? Does it have to be consecutive? Will there be any legal implications if I plan to stay only the last 2 years? Sorry for so many questions. But I need to decide pretty fast but can get any convincing answer from anyone I know:-(

Please suggest.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Kazi

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marbleraj March 11, 2013 at 5:23 pm

Hi:

I have a question related to the points that can be earned by having multiple bachelor degree. In fact I am a Chartered Accountant, A Company Secretary and have also done Bachelor of Science…so total 3 bachelor degree. Out of these 3, two degrees (CA & CS) are related to my currect profession and is as equivalent Bachelor degree in Australia.
- Will I get points for 3 bachelor degree (45 points) , 2 bachelor degree (30 points) or only one bachelor degree (15 points).

I tried to contact DIAC, Skill assessor and others but of no avail..Please help me if someone can.

Thanks in advance..

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Furqan March 11, 2013 at 6:28 pm

Marbleraj:

You can only get maximum points for just 1 degree (highest educational qualification) and in your case I believe 15 points will be the max that you would get.

Regards,

Furqan

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marbleraj March 11, 2013 at 8:24 pm

Thanks Furqan..I was keeping fingers crossed and hoping if something clicks for addl degree..

Thanks Again..
Marbleraj

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s moothoosawmy September 15, 2013 at 5:03 pm

hi
I visited this site and I would like to know if i am eligible with a bachelor degree of psychology and a masters degree in counselling from the university of Mauritius to work as psychologist in Australia and if this job is available for this year.
thanks a lot..

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BobinOz March 11, 2013 at 6:14 pm

Mairaj, Kazi and Marbleraj and anybody else asking specific and technical questions about this rather confusing Expression of Interest.

I would need to be a MARA registered migration agent to know the answers to these questions and I’m not. The above article was written after I had spoken at length to a professional MARA agent, for any of you who have read the article, you probably now know as much about EOI as I do.

I am keeping comments open on this post, but it’s only in the hope that other people who do know the answers to these specific questions coming and help each other out.

I’m afraid I just can’t answer them, and I have now made an update to the article explaining just that.

Good luck to you all,

Bob

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sagee March 11, 2013 at 9:31 pm

Today i got my ACS positive results :) and hope to lodge the State sponsorship (NSW)this 20 march.I guess it will get around 4 months and there are two possibilities of my application in risk.(My occupation code is : 2613 -Software engineer.)

Those risks are :
1. Ceiling may be reached
2. it will pass the this July 2013 when my application in the Queue

So please tell me someone ,
A. my application will be valid for next year NSW sponsorship Quota even if it is in the NSW queue (I mean not processed.) ?
B . or should i wait to apply sponsorship until July 2013 ?

appreciate expert comments on this.
Thanks in advance.

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Dora March 13, 2013 at 4:08 pm

I would like to know if there is a higher chance of getting an invitation if your point score is 70. A friend who went through all the process of applying for the GSM and then citizenship said it does not matter 60 or 70, as long as you have 60 or more. Is this true? I hold a US passport and had to sit the IELTS, in only one part I got 7.5, the rest were 8.5-9. I wouldn’t want to sit the test again for just 10 extra points. Thanks in advance for your help.

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MARA Miki March 13, 2013 at 9:27 pm

Hi Dora.

The more points you have the better your chances are. If you have 60 than you qualify. You need to decide whether or not spending another $350-$400 is worth it for you in order to gain that 10 points

brgds

Miki

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Sagee March 17, 2013 at 3:00 am

i have total point 55 and hope to first submit EOI under 190 and request NSW sponsorship .

Can i submit EOI(190) with 55 before get SS approval ?

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prath March 21, 2013 at 1:24 pm

hi Bob,

There is no family name in my passport and in EOI form it is compalsary field, what should i do? all my other documents are with out family name .
can u plz.. let me know the solution for this .

regards,
prath

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MARA Miki March 21, 2013 at 2:18 pm

Hi Prath,

As far as i know you could use Singh as your last name (i am guessing this will be part of your name right?) and the other name as given name.

Miki

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ndesai March 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm

hello

i have applied for a subclass 487 (Family Sponsered).. at the time of application, i did not pass IELTS with require band. Eventhough, i lodged a file because my student visa was about to expire. and after 45 days, i have submitted sufficient IELTS score. now a case officer has been allocated to my file and he sent me a query that u have been asked to submit a competent score at the time of application.
once i loadged a file, at the same time i have recieved an email from Immigration department and asked me to submit related documents with 28 days time frame. so i got confused and called straightaway to Immigration Dept, and asked about that query. so someone replied me that, u have to provide rest of the documents, once a case officer will allocate to ur file. but now, cas officer sent me a query, i mentioned above.
can any one help me out with this problem? what shold i do?

thanks

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Kaz March 22, 2013 at 11:35 pm

Hi, some said you can apply different EOI for different types of visa. But i found in EOI you can mention different visa types (ex:189,190 and 489) in one EOI application. Doesn’t it mean you will be verified for those 3 visa types or you will be verified for one? Please give me some feedback!

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Thomas March 26, 2013 at 5:04 pm

Very helpful forum everyone – I wish I had seen this a couple of months ago!
I got first contact from my case officer today for a 189 visa. This was also the first moment I realized I had made the same mistake as Furqan – except I didn’t have the intelligence to see the mistake until it was pointed out to me!
I am a doctor and I thought I had a doctorate degree – turns out it’s classified as a Bachelors. So what I submitted as 65 points is in fact 60.
My case officer has written that I need to come up with an extra 5 points in another way to have a valid application. I can’t see a way of doing this.
I immediately wrote a dismayed email to my case officer asking about this. I fear the worst though – even if there isn’t a ban and I do get my money back – time is of the essence with this 189 visa for me and I’ve made a balls of it.

Any advice? Please?

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MARA Miki March 26, 2013 at 7:02 pm

Hi Thomas,

I’ll be honest i haven’t seen any situation like this. The general way to come up with an extra 5 point could be a partner skill; you may be able to sit another IELTS to gain an additional 10 points?
Look, while time is essence at least you haven’t lost the money which they have the right to keep.
I am sorry, i know i am not much help here. hope someone will get some answer

Miki

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Thomas March 26, 2013 at 9:11 pm

Hi Miki,

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately the partner skills is not an option. But yes that would be an ideal way to get 5 extra points. I wonder about the IELTS – it’s an option – but if I overshoot by 5 points, it still doesn’t reflect my original EOI. My case officer seemed to imply that I had to get bang on 65 or the application was void.
Thanks again for the input. I’ll look into the IELTS.
cheers
Tom

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MARA Miki March 30, 2013 at 7:00 am

Thanks Tom,

Looks like i’ve just learned something new as well.
Hope you get your new EOI up and running quick again and get invited soon with the correct points!

Miki

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Furqan March 26, 2013 at 9:24 pm

Hi Thomas,

I did made the same mistake, however, I withdrew my application even before any case officer was assigned to me. I believe you can also try communicating with your case officer about the possible withdrawal of application depending upon whether they will refund your visa application fees.

It seems a bit difficult in your scenario as the case officer has already worked over your application and as far as I remember they would require you to prove the extra 5 points in the same area as you have claimed (i.e. Education). Hence, even scoring additional IELTS points might not help.

Still you can coordinate with your case officer and apply for a withdrawal. That is the best chance as far as I can see. If they will accept your withdrawal they might refund you or they might not. But atleast it will make sure that you are not banned from reapplying.

Regards,

Furqan

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nazanin July 3, 2013 at 7:28 pm

dear sir
do you have any sample for withdrawn letter ?
refund letter

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Zeeshan April 1, 2013 at 12:14 am

Hi Bob,

Big fan of you!!! just a quick question. When applying for ACT Canberra nomination for 190 subclass. The amount of funding we have available for migration to Australia and settlement in Canberra are required to declare. I got 2 person in my application me and my wife.
How much money in Aussi $ is enough for 2 people to get a positive assessment?
does $15000 enough or should i wait to get more funds before I apply for ACT assessment? Secondly, does people get rejected due to lack of funds?

I’ll really appreciate you comments on it.
Thanks
Z

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BobinOz April 1, 2013 at 9:29 pm

Hi Z

Glad to hear you’ve been enjoying my website. Can’t answer your question though, I’m not sure there is an amount of money that will lead to either a positive or negative assessment.

As far as I am aware, you either have enough points or you don’t, and I have never heard of anyone being rejected because they didn’t have enough money to bring over.

But I’m just giving my opinion here, maybe somebody else reading this knows more about how it works? If anyone has any opinions, we’d all love to hear them.

Cheers

Bob

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Zeeshan April 1, 2013 at 10:13 pm

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the reply, I’ve got 65 points plus my occupation has been verified by ACT. I was very happy that everything is going fine but this available funds thing kind of worry me. According my research, I would have to spend $2500 monthly in Canberra while I get a job. So I target 6 to 8 months savings if god forbids I don’t get a job. But I agree with you I didn’t get any news too for people who get rejected on unavailable funds since this is skilled migration.

Ill apply this week. Hope to get a positive response.

Thanks again!

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BobinOz April 2, 2013 at 9:46 pm

This whole process of moving to Australia is one worry after another. And the closer you get to the end of the process, the more things that pop up to worry you. I had nightmares about my medical!

On the basis that backpackers are allowed into the country for 12 months with just $5000, my guess is that your $15,000 will be just fine. Good luck Z, I hope it runs smoothly for you, let us know how it goes.

Bob

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Zeeshan April 2, 2013 at 10:58 pm

Thanks Bob,

thats kind of a relief.

see ya around.

Z

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Shri April 2, 2013 at 8:43 pm

Hi Bob
I had applied EOI and i got invitation too. But i just realized that i made a mistake in EOI. I wrote usual country of residence as India instead of Australia. Right now i’m in Australia as temporary resident. I am able to change this in my Invitation application but than it will conflict with what i wrote in EOI. What should i do?

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BobinOz April 3, 2013 at 12:20 am

Can’t you just amend your EOI online? I heard they can be updated.

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Nid June 6, 2013 at 12:49 am

HI Shri,
I am in the same situation.What did u do regarding this?Can u pls suggest me what to do?I am very tensed.

Any advice will be much appreciated

Nid

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suj April 3, 2013 at 3:01 pm

All , Thanks for the support . I got my 189 PR last week .
EOI submitted on 27 Oct 2012.Received PR on 24 March 2013.
I am going Sydney without job. How long is a PR holder allowed to remain in Aus without job ?Just wondering .

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ANUJ GROVER April 3, 2013 at 3:48 pm

Congrats Suj.. Wat Occupation did u apply under?

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BobinOz April 3, 2013 at 10:10 pm

Nice going suj, hope everything goes smoothly from now on in and I also hope you get to enjoy Sydney is much as I love it here in Brisbane.

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suj April 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm

1>Can one work in NZ using the PR 189 obtained in Aus?
2>For the initial period(no job), how can 1 take Aus Dollar from ones native country ?Traveller cheque
or
3>Can an Aus bank a/c be created from foreign shores and transfer AUd there?

Suj

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BobinOz April 5, 2013 at 1:00 am

1- not sure
2- yes, but also a credit or debit card with either MasterCard or Visa on it will work in our cash machines.
3- yes, but you will have to jump through a few hoops to prove your identity, but it certainly can be done.

Bob

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Rajiv April 8, 2013 at 3:50 pm

Hi Suj, congrats. Just 2 questions, since I’m also in the process of applying for a 189 visa, and worried about SkillSlect waiting periods being longer than my current visa:
1) What skill did you apply under?
2) How many points did you have when applying?
I’m sure this input will be helpful to many
Thanks

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Suj April 8, 2013 at 6:57 pm

Prog analyst
60 points.

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Amsi April 5, 2013 at 9:15 pm

Hi,
I have recieved positive assessment for all of my 8+ years expericence with 2 employers (1 past and 1 current) by the normal route of submitting detailed employment references.
Now, my worry with current employment is that on the letter the contact details are provided are of HR dept. And HR ppl in my current company are not very competent people, and if DIAC calls them for verification I doubt if they will be able to satisfactorily answer the queries, and which will put my application to risk.
Moreover, without the current employment, I am still getting enough points on the EOI. So I am considering not to claim points for the current employment.

I would like advise on how to do that i.e. should I not mention it in the EOI (and everywhere else to maintain consistency) or should I mention it by mark it not relevant to occupation code.
It is to be kept in mind that this experiece is mentioned as suitable in the assessment letter.

Your advise will be highly appreciated.

Thanks

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BobinOz April 6, 2013 at 12:47 am

I can’t really advise you on this, I don’t know what kind of information about this employment you either have or haven’t completed on the various forms. My gut feeling though is that hiding information like this can often come back and bite you.

I think you will have to make the call on this one, I hope you make the right one.

Cheers

Bob

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Athar April 6, 2013 at 12:49 am

Hi Bob,

May I request to have your opinion on my case.

I got positive ACS assessment in 2011 as Business Analyst and that time my experience was 6.4 years. This letter is expired now.

Continuing same job with same designation, now I have 8 years experience. To claim 15 points for 8 years:

1. Should I launch a new ACS application (to get 8 years experience on ACS letter)
OR
2. My old ACS letter with new validity date (Re-Validation) along-with updated reference letter from current employer will be enough for DIAC as evidence of 8 years experience?

So what do you suggest “New ACS Application” OR “ACS Re-Validation”? Please help so I can start the process.

Thanks,
Athar

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BobinOz April 7, 2013 at 9:06 pm

I’m not really sure Athar, it would probably be best to explain the situation to the assessing authority and ask them what would be best.

Good luck

Bob

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Jon April 6, 2013 at 6:21 pm

Hi,

My partner and I are just beginning our application process for the 189 visa. Do people recommend applying yourself or using a migration agent? It almost costs double doing it through an agent. However, our main proirity is getting the visa rather than saving money. Is this a complicated process?

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BobinOz April 7, 2013 at 9:43 pm

That’s the kind of visa we came over on, we chose to use a MARA agent because we really didn’t want to make any mistakes and we wanted the application to go through as smoothly as possible. Yes, it does make it more expensive and at the end of the day it depends how confident you are going through the process by yourself.

Even though my wife and myself are two super intelligent people :-) we still felt more comfortable getting a professional to do the paperwork for us. But the choice is yours.

If you do want to use an agent, I recommend my MARA guy, see my Visa Assessment Service.

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sus April 8, 2013 at 12:19 am

We did it ourselves.Learnt thru it and thru forums like these.Thanks Bob.
Beware :: getting Agent doesnt always guarantee right paperwork etc.
Sometimes it can result in mis info /mis guidance also.
Applying for PR is no rocket science. CO is usually a helpful guy unless — u have faked something .
Hope this helps.

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BobinOz April 8, 2013 at 5:03 pm

Yes, I suspect there are some migration agents that aren’t very good at their jobs, that’s why I recommend my agent, he is good at what he does and he knows what he’s doing.

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asif April 8, 2013 at 4:08 am

Dear sus,

Did any way that get the PR by having IELTS less then 7.

thanks

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Ann April 8, 2013 at 11:46 am

Hi how long approx does it takes for the EOI to get approved?

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BobinOz April 8, 2013 at 6:20 pm

Not sure what you mean by “approved”, once you have completed your EOI, doesn’t it just go live? Or do you mean how long does it take to get an offer?

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Rajiv April 8, 2013 at 3:41 pm

Bob, thanks for putting up an awesome site.
I studied in Sydney and I’m currently working in Australia on a 485 visa. I will apply for my Expression of Interest for a Skilled Independent 189 visa around April 2014, after I complete my 1 year work experience and get the VETASSESS skill approval. My 485 visa expires September 2014.

QUESTION: Can I continue on a bridging visa after my 485 expires, while I wait for an invitation through the SkillSelect process? Or will I have to leave when the 485 expires? I expect to continue to have a job, though my employer is reluctant to sponsor me through the Employer Nomination Scheme at the moment.

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BobinOz April 8, 2013 at 6:21 pm

That’s not a question I’m qualified to answer, sorry Rajiv.

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MARA Miki April 8, 2013 at 8:55 pm

Hi Rajiv,

Since the EOI is not a visa application there is no Bridging visa attached to it. If your 485 expires you’ll either need to apply for an alternative visa or leave the country.

Miki

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Jon April 12, 2013 at 4:20 am

Hi Bob,

We are using a migration agent to help us get the 189 visa whom originally told me that I had enough points to qualify for this visa:

Under 30.
Occupation on SOL
4 years work experience.
Masters Degree

However, after reviewing my case a bit more they say I only have 55 points as will therefore need to sit the IELTS test to get extra points. However, I am a British passport holder (since birth) so is this an OK thing to do? Or is it seen by the Australian immigration department as a bad thing that a native English language speaker is just taking this test to bump their points up?

Advice much appreciated!

Jon

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Furqan April 12, 2013 at 6:02 am

Hi Jon,

Being a UK passport holder and native english speaker it benefits you only to prove that you have a Competent English level. This does not gives you any points. However, in order to achieve a Proficient English Level or better Superior Level you have to attempt IELTS. I believe you being a native speaker, it will be a walk in the park for you to get a score of atleast 7 in all four parts of an IELTS test. It will earn you 10 points to be included in your EOI.

In the current situation if your points are 55 and there is no other way to increase them I feel attempting IELTS is the only choice for you. May be Bob can help you more in this regards.

Good luck

Furqan

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BobinOz April 12, 2013 at 11:04 pm

No, you are spot on Furqan, thanks for answering this for me :-)

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Mahi April 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm

HI All,
Just wondering that you could help me in regards to my problem. I have launched my 189 application yesterday by myself and I found that I did a mistake in choosing my usual country of residence as “Australia” in application where as I have choosen usual country of residence as ‘India” in my EOI hoping that they are asking my original place. Will that be a problem in future when I get a case officer. One more thing Peng, I have selected option ‘No’ for the question ‘Are there any non migrating dependent family members who are not Australian citizens or Australian Residents?’, but on the documents attachment page, I could see all of my family members names along with status ‘Processing’ next to their names. I was wondering will that be same for everyone or just for me because I might have choosen wrong option somewhere?
Your responses would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mahi

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BobinOz April 12, 2013 at 11:14 pm

Sorry Mahi, these are not questions I can answer. Maybe somebody else might come along and help you.

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Psdf April 12, 2013 at 2:28 pm

Bob,

Once we submit the PCC / FBI / Health Documents, How long it takes for Case officer to get back ? I have submitted my documents on March 18th. Its been 1 month almost.. Still I didnt hear from Case Officer … Any time frame ?

Thanks for all your inputs and guidance each and every day which you are providing.. Appreciate it..

Thanks,
psdf.

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BobinOz April 12, 2013 at 11:19 pm

For us, it took three weeks before we heard back, but that was over five years ago. Maybe they are a bit busier at the moment, so I wouldn’t panic yet. I’d give it at least another couple of weeks, but I do understand how nervous you must be, I know how we felt just waiting.

good luck!

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Psdf April 13, 2013 at 1:34 am

Bob,

Thanks for your mail and updates… Really appreciate it….

Thanks again..

Psdf.

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Joe April 15, 2013 at 8:50 pm

Hi PDF,
For me it’s been three weeks since I have submitted requested docs to the case officer and haven’t heard anything yet. Worried a lot.

Please keep updating and let us know when you get visa.

Thanks

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Psdf April 16, 2013 at 12:16 am

Joe,

Thanks for your sharings… Submitted FBI/ PCC / Health Receipts / Local PCC on March 18th / 19th. Still no single reply from the Case officer yet.

In the TRN, still its showing ** requested ** for FBI / PCC / Health docs.

Thanks,
Psdf.

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Joe April 16, 2013 at 6:51 am

Hi Psdf,
I submitted my docs on 31st march and no update after that.. :( :(
Joe

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MARA Miki April 16, 2013 at 8:49 pm

Hi Guys,

This wont be much relief: i made an inquiry recently regarding a client and this was the CO’s response:
“The health assessment is still with the Medical Officer. Currently the delays are long for this process, several months. We are trying to get them expedited currently.”

It is getting close to the end of the year (financial it is) and DIAC is still processing the backlog of the pre July 2012 applications as well.

Guess all i can say it to wait patiently

Miki

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Psdf April 17, 2013 at 1:54 am

Dear Miki,

Thanks for sharing that info……. Mean while, I got similar reply from CO as soon as you posted this…. Am guessing CO is reading this blogs … :-D

Hi Joe,

I got a reply from CO today as follows : I have pasted complete mail from CO here :

Thank you for those documents

They are the last required documents.

Unfortunately at this time I am unable to finalise your application.

The health for Psdf (DD/MM/YYYY,M) has been referred to the Medical Officer of the Commonwealth for further review.

This is nothing to be alarmed about at this time as it is quite a normal occurrence.

At this time, due to a very heavy workload in the medical clearance area, there is a significant delay to the final clearance of such medicals.

At the moment they are taking a between 8 and 12 weeks to clear.

His health was referred on 12/03/2013. This means at the earliest it will probably clear around 12/05/2013.

If you have not heard from me by then, please contact me again, requesting an update and I will make further enquiries.

I am sorry for this delay, but it is outside of my control.

Regards,
CO

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I have mentioned in Health Application that , am having Diabetic and under medication…. Also did spouse health checkup and submitted her docs as well….and no issues in her medical history and nothing mentioned about her documents related from CO…. so am worried now, having Diabetic , causes any issues in application processing ?

Thanks,
Psdf

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Joe April 17, 2013 at 6:19 am

Hi psdf/Maklos

Huge thanks!!
I had my medicals in OCT 2012 last year so it should not take too long… Should I check with my case officer?

Regards,
Joe

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BobinOz April 17, 2013 at 5:29 pm

Psdf, I don’t think diabetes will cause a problem, but of course that is only my opinion. For more information see http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/health-requirements/

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Psdf April 17, 2013 at 11:56 pm

Thanks Bob….Hoping for best…..

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MARA Miki April 17, 2013 at 8:29 pm

Ho Joe,

This is funny, but could be true :) given that the blog is popular…
I wont bother. The more email people send the less the CO could actually work. i have a few friends who work for the department and i know that their case load is actually significant.

Email him in 2-3 weeks if nothing happens

Miki

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Psdf April 18, 2013 at 12:04 am

Hey Joe,

You had your Medicals in OCT 2012.. But when did u submitted Health Receipts / PCC docs to case officer ? The day when u submitted to Case officer , it counts in my opinion…

It all depends on CO. Since the CO goes for one more review with Medical Officer, its getting delayed… If CO would have taken decision to finalise the application without going for one more review..Visa would have granted very quickly.. So, no choice…just need to wait patiently as per Miki advise….

Better you ask for updates with CO during the end of April, if you dont hear from him…After a month…( i guess u submitted on mar 31).

Psdf

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Joe April 18, 2013 at 7:45 am

Hey Maklos/Psdf,

yes I submitted my requested docs in Easter holidays..My Lawyer has asked for an update from CO and she said she will finalise my case in couple of days.

Joe

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Psdf April 19, 2013 at 1:10 am

Thanks Joe for the updates…Hope you will hear the Good news soon :-) All the best.

Joe April 23, 2013 at 6:04 pm

Hi Psdf/Maklos,

we have been granted visa today. feeling so relaxed and happy :) :).. How about you Psdf? Have you got any news from case officer? I hope you will be having a good news of your visa soon.

Thanks very much guys!!

Joe

Psdf April 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm

Joe,

Thanks for sharing the Gud news Congratualations Hope will meet in Australia some day …. All the best ….

My case, fingers crossed… Case officer sent my medical docs for further review..so waiting for further updates from Case Officer…

Lets say, you got PR on Apr 23, 2013.. So, its valid till Apr 23, 2018 ? Do you need to report once before Apr 23, 2014 ? Please share some thoughts on this…

Thanks,
Psdf

assi April 13, 2013 at 3:20 pm

Dear All,

For IELTS we need to score 7 band, it required academic or general IELTS will be enough.
Please guide me.

i have 8 years Exp, in Accounting
Master Degree in Accounting & Master degree in Business also (from India)
Age 30
Only IELTS required now.

Thanks

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BobinOz April 17, 2013 at 5:30 pm

I’m not sure what score you might need, maybe my Points Calculator page will help you.

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MARA Miki April 17, 2013 at 8:30 pm

Academic is the answer. you can find the answer on the CPA website as well

Miki

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Sharekh April 19, 2013 at 8:22 pm

Hi Bob,

You have some great content on the site. I have a few queries and your help would be highly appreciated.

I am an ICT Business Development Manager and my occupation is available on SOL Schedule 2, so if my understanding is correct, I am eligible for State Sponsorship. At the moment I am waiting for the skills assessment and IELTS scores, hope to get them positive soon.

Meanwhile I was going through Skillselect and created a draft application on EOI, but there are certain options which are very confusing.

1. As my occupation is on SOL Schedule 2, am I eligible to choose the option of 189 ? or do I have to be on SOL 1 list to Express my Interest for 189 Visa ?
2. Another page asks for “States you would be Interested in” where I am aware that my occupation is only available in 2 states (SA & ACT) so can I still choose other states in EOI ? if yes, then does the selection matter in terms of priority of the state chosen ?
3. And lastly when I choose the states (SA / ACT) where my profession is available, will my profile be only shared with Employers in those 2 states or across Australia?

If you have any information on the same, it would be of great help to me.

Thanks

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BobinOz April 20, 2013 at 12:20 am

If you read through all the comments and answers in this thread, you will probably find the information you are looking for. I don’t know the answers myself, all I know is what is written on these pages.

Good luck though!

Bob

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Sharekh April 21, 2013 at 1:08 am

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your response, its interesting to see everyone’s opinion across the blog. However I could not still find an answer to a question that if the occupation is in SOL2 / CSOl, can you still express interest for 189 Visa on EOI ?

If you or anyone from the blog can share some information, it will be of great help.

Thanks

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MARA Miki April 21, 2013 at 10:26 pm

Sarekh,

You aren’t eligible for a 189 if the Occupation is on the CSOL and not on the SOL list. You can express interest for the 190 tho

Miki

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Ruchi April 23, 2013 at 11:47 am

Hello Bob,

I submitted my EOI but made a mistake by adding ‘gazetted professional year’ in my score. I got an invitation but then realized that the 5 extra points I claimed are incorrect.
I still have 70 points and want to apply for 189 as soon as possible.
Can I submit another EOI right now and withdraw my first EOI when it unfreezes after 60 days?
Thanks for all help in advance.

Ruchi

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suj April 23, 2013 at 1:43 pm

YOu can change your EOI any time ,till you receive an invite to apply VISA.So go ahead and change the same.
People have mentioned that 1ce you change the existing EOI , you fall at the bottom of the queue.But , i am not sure about that , i changed my EOI number of times , but luckily got selected for visa apply in ok time.Anyways , go change and resubmit the same EOI..

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Ruchi April 23, 2013 at 1:47 pm

Thanks Suj.
As I mentioned I have already received the invite.

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suj April 23, 2013 at 1:55 pm

Please ignore the above comment . since you have received invite , its difficult .There are posts for the same in this chain
Furqan October 16, 2012 at 10:16 pm post tells something similar.
Sorry again . wish you all the best.

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Ruchi April 23, 2013 at 2:52 pm

Yes I have received invite but I have yet not applied for the visa as I realized my mistake earlier as against the situation in the post mentioned above.
My query is can I submit another EOI with correct points or do I need to wait till the invite expires and then update the existing one.

Thanks
Ruchi

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Mahi April 26, 2013 at 10:16 am

HI Ruchi,

You can submit a new EOI. I have done a mistake in my first EOI and after getting invite I realized that and immediately I have applied for a new EOI and after 2 weeks I got another invitation. As far as I know, there is no restriction on how many EOI’s you can apply. Hope this helps!!!!

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Ruchi April 27, 2013 at 10:15 am

Thanks a lot Mahi. That definitely clears my doubts.

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Rahul April 23, 2013 at 11:54 am

Hello Bob,

I wanted your help regarding my ACS Experience evaluation.
When I applied for the skills evaluation, by mistake the experience letter I submitted had a wrong date. Due to this, my Australia experience got reduced by an year.

I have an updated Experience Letter from my employer now.
Can I submit EOI with my correct experience and claim the 5 points as I have all proofs if required? Or I need get a re-evaluation done by ACS?
My understanding is that since ACS remains valid for 2 years, the experience can change if we apply late. So, the current experience with proofs should be sufficient for EOI. Please help.

Thanks
Rahul

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jack April 23, 2013 at 5:06 pm

dear all,
i had 457 visa b4,when i apply 189/190 visa are they(immigration) going to compare the documents with 457 visa ,if anything differ from 457 visa attached documents will i get refuse my visa?pls reply if anyone have a issue like me -jack

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BobinOz April 23, 2013 at 6:37 pm

Really sorry to you all, but as my post above says towards the end, I’m simply not qualified to help with these technical questions. Hopefully somebody else might pop by and help you.

Cheers

Bob

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Psdf April 24, 2013 at 12:11 pm

Joe,

Thanks for sharing the Gud news :-) Congratualations :-) Hope will meet in Australia some day :-D …. All the best ….

My case, fingers crossed… Case officer sent my medical docs for further review..so waiting for further updates from Case Officer…

Lets say, you got PR on Apr 23, 2013.. So, its valid till Apr 23, 2018 ? Do you need to report once before Apr 23, 2014 ? Please share some thoughts on this…

Thanks,
Psdf

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Yamuna May 2, 2013 at 3:45 am

hi, I live in Dubai. I am a Sri Lankan. I have filled up vetassess application online. they ask two recent certified photos, want to know that from where I should certified them Sri Lanka or Dubai please help me.

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Sharekh May 2, 2013 at 4:05 am

Hi Yamuna,

I live in Dubai too, and I have recently applied to Vetassess for my Skills Assessment. For the 2 Passport photographs certification requirements, you can get them attested / certified either from Sri Lanka (Home Country) / UAE. I got them certified from the Australian Consulate of Dubai. They were very helpful, however you need to get in touch with VFS Global over an email to get an appointment with the consulate.

VFS will arrange your appointment, however it is a little time consuming process

Hope this answers your question.

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Yamuna May 3, 2013 at 7:59 am

Thanks for your kindness. It was helpful for me. As well i have another crux about affidavit saying that “I am not in Australia at the time of lodging my application”. Vetassess ask me to send it with other certified documents within 30days. want to know from where you got this affidavit let me know soon. thank you so much again.

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MARA Miki May 3, 2013 at 10:45 am

There isn’t a “standard format” but you can use the Stat Dec template available on many government sites

Miki

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Yamuna May 7, 2013 at 5:33 am

confuse confuse confuse…….. I am in Dubai. want to know about statutory declaration for VETASSESS saying that “I am not in Australia at the time application lodging”,
1. Can i make my own statutory declaration?
2. Who can be witness of declaration (any lawyer or should Australian authorised person)
3. It should be on paper with letterhead who be witness or it is ok with just A4.
pls let me know soon. I am terribly worried.

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Furqan May 7, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Hi Yamuna,

It is a very simple declaration.

You can just obtain an empty “Affidavit” (legalised paper) and print the above wording, put your ID card information and Passport information and sign it.

As a witness you can get it signed from any friend of yours and put the same identification information for him.

I have submitted the same declaration with CPA Australia and it has worked.

Regards,

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Yamuna May 7, 2013 at 11:38 pm

Thanks Furqan. I wrote a declaration on A4 and going to get signature from lawyer as a witness. and I attached certified visa copy and identity card copy with it. I think it is enough isn’t it? thanks.

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Zeeshan May 9, 2013 at 11:46 pm

Hi Bob,

Good news, I’ve got invite for apply visa on my EOI with ACT sponsorship. now i have 60 days from today to submit the visa fee. i would really appreciate if you can help me with couple of questions:

1 – When should i go for my PCC and MEDs? should i do it right away, as PCC would take 2 weeks max and Meds couple of days.

2- My wife ( my dependent) doesnt have an IELTS yet, we got the date for 8 june and would get result by 22 june – She has a 2 years bachelor degree in Commerce from university taught in English – can i submit a letter from university stating that her 2 years degree was in english? would that work as IELTS?

the reason im asking is i dont want to wait for IELTS and submit all documents right away, i have limited occupation with ACT and im afraid if i late things up, i might loose the available occupation quota.

Also, should i wait till 22 june to get my wife ielts result and then submit visa fee on EOI? that would be around 50 days till 22 june and i might have only 10 days left to apply visa fee.

Can you please guide me through this? looking forward to your reply

Many Thanks
Zeeshan

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BobinOz May 11, 2013 at 1:06 am

Sorry Zeeshan, these are questions I am not qualified to answer, hopefully someone else might be able to help you out. Cheers!

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Mahi May 13, 2013 at 1:18 pm

Hi Zeeshan,

Do not worry about the Medicals and PCC yet. Once a case officer is assigned, he will ask you to do medicals and pcc. Regarding your wife IELTS, please read the following statements from DIAC website:

The charge for lodging this visa application is AUD3060. This payment covers you and all dependent family members included in your application.

There is an extra charge that applies only to the people on your application who have less than functional English and are 18 years of age or older. The charge is AUD4250 per person. It must be paid before a visa can be granted. The payment covers up to three years of English language instruction through the Adult Migrant English Program.
See: Visa charges (93KB PDF file)

Proof of functional English explains how your dependants can demonstrate their language ability.

You are responsible for any other costs that you may incur in preparing your application, such as those associated with obtaining skills and English language assessments, health examinations and police certificates.

Proof of functional English:

Proof that confirms a person’s ability to communicate in English includes:

an International English Language Testing System (IELTS) average score of at least 4.5 for the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and writing)
an Occupational English Test score which is at least equivalent to an IELTS 4.5, and the test was relevant to the nominated occupation
the applicant’s first language is English and they have a current passport from the United Kingdom, United States, Canada, New Zealand or the Republic of Ireland
a positive assessment by an Adult Migrant English Program service provider in Australia as having functional English
evidence of a trade, diploma or higher qualification awarded by an institution in or outside Australia which involved at least two years of full-time study and all instruction was in English
evidence of completion of at least one year of full-time or equivalent study in Australia for a diploma or higher qualification and all instruction was in English.

There are limited circumstances in which visa application charges can be refunded. You will not get a refund if you change your mind about applying.

I think if your wife studied in Australian university then she don’t need Ielts, but if she din’t then she has to give Ielts or pay extra money. Its worth writing ielts and apply after you get score.
Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Mahi

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Zeeshan May 16, 2013 at 11:07 pm

Thanks Mahi, much obliged.

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Topgun May 16, 2013 at 6:27 pm

I just realized that i have mistakenly entered wrong information in EOI which was submitted and i have recived invite from NSW over it. Now what should i do? should i file new EOI and give that information to NSW or should i correct it and file application. Good news is even with wrong experience my points are not changing but my experience is less than what ACS have verfied.

Please help?

Talked to skill select and here is their responce but NSW is saying once they have invited they cannot change EOI, so i am kind a like stuck? any comments or help would be appritiated.

Once an invitation has been issued the EOI cannot be changed. Only option is to do a new EOI and provide that to the Sate and Territory.

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MARA Miki May 17, 2013 at 9:44 am

What do you mean by : “my experience is less than what ACS have verfied.” ?

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Topgun May 17, 2013 at 9:47 pm

like ACS has verified my exp around 6.2 months but by mistake i have put 5.1 years experience in my EOI and got invite over it.

points i am claiming for experience is 10 which is for 5years or more. and in both case i get same points.

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Laksh May 20, 2013 at 3:45 am

Hi :)

I would like to know if the processing time of EOI is different if applying inside or outside Australia. Thanks

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Sam13 May 21, 2013 at 4:55 pm

Hi,

I had recruited an migration expert who had submitted an EOI on my Behalf, although I have Scored 70 points, My ‘THICK’ Migration expert has misplaced and messed up my work experience without my consent. But, received an instant Invitation to Apply for Visa the next day. Although, I have decided not to work with the agency anymore.

I am again trying to file a separate EOI, although my IELTS scores will be the same with the reference number. I am unsure whether this will hamper my application progress in the future. I want to withdraw my false EOI, and not sure how to do so.

Can anyone Help?

Sam

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Furqan May 21, 2013 at 6:25 pm

Hi Sam,

Don’t worry about the “False EOI”, you can lodge a new EOI with the same details without any problem. The old one will aromatically get expired.

Regards,

Furqan

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Sam13 May 21, 2013 at 6:30 pm

Hi Furqan,

Thanks a lot for the information.

Cheers,

Sam

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Sam13 May 21, 2013 at 7:51 pm

Hi,

Also, can someone let me know the next step of being invited, Do I need to go for medical check up first in order to lodge my visa applications?

Thanks,

Sam

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MARA Miki May 23, 2013 at 1:13 pm

Sam,

Once you got the invitation you’ll need to lodge the visa with the relevant evidence. When lodging you’ll get a TRN and you’ll be able to download the medical forms and arrange your health examination

Miki

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Ascos May 23, 2013 at 1:57 pm

I open EOI account for lodging 189 visa. I only complete 10 percent of it and saved it for later. And now when I have lost user name and password also cant remember secret questions. So my question is How do i recover my almost lost account OR should i start it all over again by creating a new one, if creating new one is allright then I think its better opetion for me. Any advice please.

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Mahi May 24, 2013 at 4:08 pm

Hi Ascos,
My suggestion would be go for a new EOI application, as there are no limitations on how many EOI you apply.

Cheers.

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Ascos May 29, 2013 at 10:10 am

Many Thanx Mahi, Yes I did the same.

Now waiting for the invitation and In the mean time I was wondering do I need to go for medical now or after an invitation. I was trying to make an appointment online but then I come up with this various option of medical services required : medical test, hiv test, hep b test, hep c test, chest xray exam. I am confused what medical check I have to go for.

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Mahi June 12, 2013 at 9:11 am

Hi Ascos,

For a Residency visa you have to undergo Medical Test, HIV Test and Chest X-ray. If you are not sure, wait until CO get allocated and she will provide you details about what medical tests you have to take. My suggestion is go for medicals as the time frame for each file is less and you can your visa straight away instead doing medicals after CO allocated.

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Angelia May 24, 2013 at 12:44 am

Thank you for the information, very helpful.
You mentioned that student who successfully gain Bachelor degree in Australia will automatically get work permit for 18months. Will this also apply for student if his/her degree isn’t related or in skillset?
Thank you in advance

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BobinOz May 24, 2013 at 7:13 pm

I’m not sure Angelia, hopefully Miki will see this comment and clear it up for you.

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Zeeshan May 27, 2013 at 10:44 am

Hello,

Just a quick question. I submitted an EOI and got the invitation and have loged the EOI and waiting for CO to be assigned. I just realized that i have put 3 months less experience in one of the employment. This employment is not relevant to my nominated occupation that i got the invitation for. Now what should i do, when ill submit the scan copies of the experiences, this particular job would mismatch from EOI. Should i tell the Case officer i made a mistake and forgot to put complete experience?? its like i did a job from Jun 06 to Sep 07 and in EOI i wrote Sep 06 to Sep 07.

any ideas what will happen to me?? the job is not relevant to my nominated occupation i got invited for and not even included in Vetassess assessment but i did sent Vetassess all the experience letters, do EOI take all letters and data from Vetassess or only the letter of evaluation?

really appreciate comments!!

Thanks
Zeeshan

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thambi June 4, 2013 at 12:27 am

hi ,

i have made my application for subclass189 and got all my doscumnets ready and unfortunately has mis interpret the australian qualification points in EOI which has put my points to 65. I still am in 60 points with out it. I have paid for my applicationa nd have done y medicals and PCC.What can i best do in thsi situation ?It is a genuine misinterpretation error and any one who has done any errors can shed sum light into my case please

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van November 24, 2013 at 2:21 pm

Hi Thambi,
Can I ask which mistake that u made on the EOI ? can u be more specific? Chances that u need to withdraw your application if u cant varify the points in ur EOI

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Nid June 5, 2013 at 11:58 pm

Hi,
In my EOI i have put my country of usual residence as Bangladesh.But it should be Australia as I am living here for the last five years.Now I have got invitation and and in the visa application form i have the same question ,followed by a question asking the residential address in the country of usual residence.Now i am very worried.As i am living in Australia i have to put my residential address in australia.But i i do that that would be different from my EOI answer.What should i do now?please help!

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Mahi June 6, 2013 at 9:25 am

Hi Nid,
Don’t worry Nid, I have done the same mistake and as far as I am concerned it’s not a big mistake. Just to be safe fill FORM 1023 and attach it to your application after lodging your visa. It should be fine, as my CO din’t even asked me about that, unless you have made a bog mistake with your qualifications, work experience it shouldn’t be a problem.

Thanks,
Mahi

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Nid June 6, 2013 at 12:19 pm

HI Mahi,
Thanks for the reply.So do u suggest me to fill up the visa application form same as EOI(that means stating my country of usual residence as Bangladesh and giving my Bangladesh address as my residential address)?and then after lodgement change the country of usual residence and residential address using form 1023?currently im in Australia and i am going to lodge within few days.
Regards
Nid

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Mahi June 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm

Hi Nid,

No, my suggestion is try to put usual country of residence as Australia and give your Australian address while lodging an application. After lodging your application, fill FORM 1023 to inform the CO that you have entered incorrect address in EOI and have entered correct information in visa application. By going through FORM 1023, your CO will understand what information you have entered incorrectly. So apply with “Australia’ as usual country of residence in your visa application.

Thanks

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Ascos June 6, 2013 at 9:41 am

Hi
I have a similar problem too. I have worked in accounting field but because of so many document requirement I didnt put work exp in my skill select. But in my visa application that I made online, I mentioned that I have work experience. Do I need to show work experience paper now as I havenot claimed for work experience points in my EOI.

Regards
Anup

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Mahi June 11, 2013 at 12:29 pm

Hi Anup,

I am not sure whether that will make a difference for the CO to grant you a visa. As the CO will ask you to provide documentation for what you have entered in your EOI. If you have not claimed for work experience in your EOI and got a invitation for that, I think they won’t consider your work experience in application. Contact your CO and explain them the situation and ask for next step. But, take some professional help regarding this kind of matters before you do anything.

Thanks
Mahi

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Sagee June 11, 2013 at 3:27 am

I got State nomination and need to apply VISA.

1).Should i submt my spouse IELTS at intial stage before assgin CO ?
2). How long will be given for submit spouse IELTS ?
3) Other things is that i am concern with my MEDICAL condition as my CHOLESTEROL limit is 350. will it be a problem for getting Visa ?

appreciate you all help to sort out above questions ?
Thanks inadvance

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Mahi June 11, 2013 at 12:34 pm

Hi Sagee,

Its often a good idea to provide extra documents which you may think the CO will ask later in processing your file. I suggest you submit your spouse IELTS beforehand. If your spouse doesn’t have required IELTS score, your CO may ask to provide evidence that whether your spouse studied in an institution in Australia or overseas received education in English. It will be a time taking process as you need to contact the institution and get a letter from them. Have a look below:
Proof of functional English explains how your dependants can demonstrate their language ability.

You are responsible for any other costs that you may incur in preparing your application, such as those associated with obtaining skills and English language assessments, health examinations and police certificates.

Proof of functional English:

Proof that confirms a person’s ability to communicate in English includes:

an International English Language Testing System (IELTS) average score of at least 4.5 for the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and writing)
an Occupational English Test score which is at least equivalent to an IELTS 4.5, and the test was relevant to the nominated occupation
the applicant’s first language is English and they have a current passport from the United Kingdom, United States, Canada, New Zealand or the Republic of Ireland
a positive assessment by an Adult Migrant English Program service provider in Australia as having functional English
evidence of a trade, diploma or higher qualification awarded by an institution in or outside Australia which involved at least two years of full-time study and all instruction was in English
evidence of completion of at least one year of full-time or equivalent study in Australia for a diploma or higher qualification and all instruction was in English.

There are limited circumstances in which visa application charges can be refunded. You will not get a refund if you change your mind about applying.

I think if your wife studied in Australian university then she don’t need Ielts, but if she din’t then she has to give Ielts or pay extra money. Its worth writing ielts and apply after you get score.

Hope this helps,
Mahi

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Sagee June 11, 2013 at 2:40 pm

Thanks lot Mahi.

I suppose to pay fee instead of IELTS of my wife. :( .
1). At what state should i pay that cost ?

2). Other things is that i am concern with my MEDICAL condition as my CHOLESTEROL limit is 350. will it be a problem for getting Visa ?

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BobinOz June 11, 2013 at 8:05 pm

I’m not sure about 1) but your high cholesterol should not be a problem unless the authorities feel that it could require significant costs to treat; Google “Australian immigration health requirements” for more information.

Personally I don’t think high cholesterol requires significant costs, but at the end of the day it’s DIAC who decides. Hope that helps a bit.

Bob

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Sagee June 12, 2013 at 2:25 pm

Thanks Bob :) :) it is really helpful

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Mahi June 12, 2013 at 9:15 am

Hi Sagee,

I think the fee is around 4000$ for dependent candidate who does not meet English Language criteria, not sure though. Check the Visa Costs in DIAC website. My suggestion would be ask your spouse to write IELTS exam, as they need less score.

Mahi

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Sagee June 12, 2013 at 2:27 pm

Thanks Mahi. yes as you suggest i ll make her to do IELTS :)
Thanks again

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Sylvie Napier June 11, 2013 at 9:00 pm

Hi Bob

I hope you can help! Desperation is sinking in….

I am 26 and a newly qualified solicitor in Scotland. My husband is 38 and a fitness instructor. I have just completed an EOI and was only able to apply for one type of visa – a regional working visa. I have spent 7 years studying law and have gathered many useful skills. I do not, however, want to be a lawyer in Australia. I would very much like to enter the job market somewhere else.

However, in order to complete the EOI I have had to enter solicitor as my nominated skill. I do not have a skills assessment for this as it costs nearly $1000 and I do not want to do law!

I have family in Victoria who will sponsor my husband and I – is there no other way of us being allowed in to the country? None of the visa types seem to apply to our situation and I am losing hope.

Many thanks in advance

Sylvie

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BobinOz June 12, 2013 at 2:09 pm

Hi Sylvie

If you apply to come here on a sponsorship, then yes, you will have to work for at least two years in your nominated skilled. There are other visas though, visas that can get you here not on a sponsorship, but you will arrive as a permanent resident, assuming you qualify with enough points and pass all the other criteria.

If you come here on that basis, you can do what ever work you want and live in whichever state you want.

I couldn’t tell you whether you would qualify or which specific visa you should go for in your situation, but my MARA agent could, maybe you should consider going through my Visa Assessment Service.

My professional MARA migration agent will guide you through the process and give you a full written report advising you of the best way to proceed.

Hope that helps, Bob

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Psdf June 12, 2013 at 11:25 pm

Bob,

Can we live and work in Newzealand with Australian PR ( 189 Visa ) ?

Thanks,
Psdf.

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BobinOz June 13, 2013 at 1:34 pm

All I know is that there is some kind of arrangement between the two countries, but I’m not absolutely sure which visas it covers or whether it just applies to citizens. Anybody know the answer to this one?

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Layla Turner August 28, 2013 at 1:48 pm

Heey Psdf
I’m in NZ on a WHV, as far as I know, any Australian perm residents can indeed live and work here in NZ.
It is not the same for NZ perm residents going over to Aus however. You have to get NZ PR, then stay an additional 5 years to become a NZ citizen, in order to be able to go and live and work in Australia. Bit unfair, I of all people wish it were the same the other way around…*sigh*.

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MR June 17, 2013 at 12:50 pm

Hi Bob,

I was in a de-facto relationship for almost 2yrs and last year my partner visa got cancelled and she left Australia in Nov 2012. Now, I got my Residency and I am planning to marry her and apply for her through Partner Visa. My question, she has some debts to the Commonwealth Bank and Vodafone. Will the CO consider this and not approve her visa till she pays outstanding debts? Bit confused and worried on this. If anyone can provide information on this, would be thankful to them.

Regards
MR

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BobinOz June 17, 2013 at 9:00 pm

Not sure what the answer is to this one, but wouldn’t it make sense to pay off those debts?

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Sagee June 17, 2013 at 9:10 pm

Hi All,

i got VISA granted and hope to fly on September 2013. But the problem is my wife pregnant and delivery date on august 2013.

what should i do now ? pls help me.

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BobinOz June 18, 2013 at 8:04 pm

That’s one for your doctor! Oh, and your wife to decide.

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Sagee June 19, 2013 at 3:09 pm

Thanks Bob.
But the the baby who going to be born has not Visa granted ?
do i need to start Visa process for the baby?

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Leo June 18, 2013 at 8:15 pm

Hi everyone,

I’ve got a question – I’m on a student visa now, progressing with my master’s degree. The other day I checked the points test and read that educational requirement may be satisfied even if the degree I’m claiming points for does not relate to the occupation I choose. So it got me thinking maybe I should get my ielts 7-8, maybe even credential community language points, plus my age and that educational requirement points I mentioned and I got myself 60 and above so could get invited to apply for pr. However as what I began with – I’m on a student vusa currently so what if applying for pr will terminate my student visa and worst case scenario my pr application is rejected and ibhave no student visa and will be forced to leave, is that possible?

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BobinOz June 19, 2013 at 3:58 pm

That’s not something I can answer Leo, maybe someone else reading this can help you or, if you wish, you can use my Visa Assessment Service to find out the best way for you to proceed.

Cheers, Bob

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suj June 19, 2013 at 4:11 pm

you can include your baby in the process only with both the below documents :
Indian Birth certificate .
+
Passport

Till you have them. baby cannot be included in ur visa . Maybe ,just maybe(as i dont know) you can take baby on travel visa etc . Not sure . You need to talk to case officer who gets assigned to you.

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BobinOz June 19, 2013 at 6:02 pm

Thanks suj, that one had me a bit stuck :-)

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Julia June 18, 2013 at 11:00 pm

The EOI won’t recognise the postcode of my relative – any tips?

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BobinOz June 19, 2013 at 4:12 pm

What are you putting in? I would think it could only be in the format of

QLD 4000
4000
or
QLD4000

if you see what I mean.

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Del June 19, 2013 at 5:07 pm

Hi to all,

Is there any negative effect if I withdrawn my EOI and intend to re-submit again?

Thanks

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BobinOz June 19, 2013 at 6:04 pm

As far as I am aware, the only negative effect is that you go to the back of the queue again when you resubmit.

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Afsana June 25, 2013 at 8:22 pm

Hi my name is afsana, I have logded a Trouist Visa application in New Delhi 2 months ago. I recieved the acknowledgement on the first day but after that I have not yet recieved any feed back. Once when I sent an email the told me that they busy actively working on it.

I submitted all required documents along with my application but I do not know why it takes so long.

Is it normal some time that an application to take 2 months or so? please advise

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Sreeram June 29, 2013 at 6:28 pm

Hi Bob

First of all, I would like to thank you for the info you have put up on this webpage, its truly amazing. Kudos to you.

I have a doubt regarding EOI- I have filed my EOI on the skill select website and want to know if there is a way to track my application?

Or is will you only get an email, when you receive the invitation?

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BobinOz June 30, 2013 at 1:45 am

Thanks, and glad you like it. As far as I’m aware, no there isn’t any way of tracking your application, but maybe someone else knows more? Anyone know a way to do this?

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Mahi July 1, 2013 at 10:19 am

Hi Sreeram,

No, there is no way where you can track your application in EOI. But if you want to know more about EOI invitations and cut off marks, go to skillselect and open “reports’ tab where you can find all the information about how many rounds will be conducted, how many invitations will be given and cut off points mark to be invited.

Cheers,
Mahi

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Sach July 2, 2013 at 7:34 pm

HI

I had processed 457 dependent Visa for my Wife and new born child ,who are not in Australia at the moment and would not come for at least 3-4 months,
Now I have got the invite for subclass 190, My question is If I apply for visa I would be on Bridge but what would be their visa status .( Think I know the answer But I stil want some experts advice on this ) .

Thanks In Advance.

Regards
Sach

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Saravana Kumar July 2, 2013 at 9:45 pm

Hi,

I have got Skill assessment results which I had declared for 2613131(Software Engineer)with my over 6 yrs of experience in different Organisation mentioned below.

1)XYZ company for 3 Yrs 2 Months as Business Process Analyst
2) ABC Company for 2 yrs 9 months as Software Engineer(i am still working for the same organisation and now my experience here is 3 Yrs)

But, ACS approved the Skill Assessment for only ABC company with 2 yrs 9 Months.So my concern here is, when i apply for EOI, do they consider my skills and provide me 5 points as per assessment during date of EOI applied..

————–Criteria mentioned in AUS Immigration Site———————
Skilled employment outside Australia
At least three but less than five years (of past 10 years) 5 Points

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Saravana Kumar July 2, 2013 at 9:48 pm

Additional to that, Am try to apply for subclass 189 visa.

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Farhan July 8, 2013 at 5:43 pm

@Saravana Kumar, Same is the case with me…. I got the approval for my last designation that I chose as ANZSCO (system analyst). But I was expecting that my old experience (of soft. engineer + web developer) will be counted towards the eligibility of it, but unfortunately they didnt…. Therefore I am applying for review, that ll cost me 350$, with a different ANZSCO.

My question is same as yours, whether I will get points for only ACS approved experience?

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Saravana Kumar July 8, 2013 at 7:24 pm

Hi Farhan,

I got an resolution for the same and i have requested my current organisation to get my new reference letter which says 3yrs of experience in the letter and i can claim for 5 points against my experience.

for you question, my answer will be yes.Please go thru the below thread, which may help you further.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=784805

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Farhan July 15, 2013 at 7:21 pm

Thanks @Saravana Kumar,

I have one more question, that ACS has mentioned in the report that my initial 2 years of experience will count towards ACS requirement to reach the appropriate skilled level for your nominated occupation. (I applied under system analyst ANZSCO)

Did you face the same exclusion of 2 years for Software Engineer?

Regards,
Farhan

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Sathiyaseelan July 17, 2013 at 3:14 pm

Hi Saravana kumar,

I am Sathiyaseelan from Tamilnadu, India. I guess that you are from Tamilnadu and am eager to have your contacts so that we two can mutually help each other. I already lodged my EOI with 60 points on 9th july, 2013 for telecommunications network engineer position.

Looking forward to hear from you,

Regards,
Sathiyaseelan

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Saravana Kumar July 17, 2013 at 6:44 pm

Hi Sathiyaseelan,

My number 09035914262.

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Jaswinder July 5, 2013 at 2:16 am

Hi Bob.

I am a statistician. and my occupation is listed as highly available with states South australia and Victoria. I am about to file an EOI. Does Skill select cost anything?? and how much fee do I have to pay at the very begining of the process. Thanks in advance.

regards,
Jaswinder

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BobinOz July 6, 2013 at 12:18 am

As far as I am aware, it’s free to submit your EOI, fees come into play later.

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damian hall July 9, 2013 at 9:29 am

Hi Bob
First I just want to say excellent blog.
I have today, submitted my EOI. I have though only entered that I am interested in the 189 visa because I was told that if I entered another visa type (190) and I was invited for the 190 that I wouldn’t get another invite for the 189 until the other invite had cleared and that this would take approximately 3 months. I really want the 189 Visa but I can get family sponsored if I wanted. I’m looking to go to Queensland but plumbing is not on the Qld List so I wouldn’t bother with state sponsorship.
Hope this makes sense
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Damian

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BobinOz July 10, 2013 at 6:13 pm

Hi Damian

Glad you like the blog.

I can’t actually give you any advice, this whole process is as confusing to me as it is to almost everyone who goes through it. You will probably learn much more by reading other people’s comments here, there’s some good advice in a lot of them.

If you really need professional help though, check out my Visa Assessment Service which is done by my MARA registered migration agent.

Good luck

Bob

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Sathiya July 9, 2013 at 4:36 pm

Hi Bob,

firstly, i would like to thank you very much for providing very beneficial information to new immigrants. It is really worth for applause. I am Sathiya from India. I achieved 7 bands in each section of IELTS exam and also received positive outcome from Engineers australia for my educational qualifications and experience. I am planning to lodge EOI now and have some queries to which i hope you could clarify for me.

1. I completed Bachelor of engineering degree in electronics and communication engineering. Which educational qualification i need to choose in EOI?
is it Bachelors degree (Science, Business or technology) or Bachelor degree (Other)?

2. Do i need to write the exact designation i held in all organizations i worked or the equivalent name of Australian occupation for which i have roles and responsibilities?

For example, my designation in current company is Executive -1, but i perform duties of a telecommunications network engineer. So what i should enter against name of position?”Telecommunications network engineer or Executive-1. Please note that i have letter of roles and responsibilities from all my employers.

3. Finally yet importantly, i don’t know the exact start and end dates of graduation. Unfortunately, No educational certificates have these dates. Can i put some approximate dates or is it necessary to give the exact dates?

I wuuld be glad if you could come up with answers to my questions.

Regards,
Sar=thiya.

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BobinOz July 10, 2013 at 6:33 pm

Again, I can’t help with this, please see my answer (immediately above your comment) to Damien. Cheers, Bob

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leon Martin July 13, 2013 at 5:37 pm

Hello,
My agent guy had submitted the EOI a few days back, but he had got my name wrong. Actually on my passport, i do not have a surname … only given names.. So on the skillselect, the agent has entered “Not given in Passport” as the surname. So now my name has become ” leon martin not given in passport”(i know what your thinking now.. how stupid can a guy be) Anyways.. can this be undone???? thanks

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Mahi July 15, 2013 at 9:31 am

Hi Leon,

You can update your EOI as long as you don’t get an invitation. Your EOI will be locked once an invitation is issued for that EOI. So ask your agent to update your details in EOI.

Cheers

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ssharma50 July 15, 2013 at 9:56 pm

Hi,
My husband received his visa invitation on the same day I received my acs assessment. In the EOI, he did not add partner skills points. Now that I have ACS (& IELTS of course), we are tempted to add my details in the visa form. Shall we add my acs & ielts info or just forget it ? Would it help our case in any way?

Regards
Shweta

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Mahi July 16, 2013 at 1:25 pm

Hi Swetha,

As your husband received invitation, you can’t update the EOI anyways. As you are secondary dependent, I wont think you need to add your ACS in visa. However, the case officer will ask to prove your English skills, it is wise to add IELTS score card in visa. If the case officer needs more information regarding your ACS etc, she will request you and then you can send her requested documents. So for now just forget about ACS and add IELTS to your visa.

Thanks
mahi

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ssharma50 July 17, 2013 at 11:23 am

Thanks Mahi for your reply. I have one more if you guys could help.

I am filling the visa application and I am struggling to write down where I lived in the past 10 years.

I was travelling frequently between Germany & Thailand for 2 years for work. I had addresses verified for both places and bank accounts as well.

Any suggestions on how I should list down the duration of stay at both places as it is difficult to write down the correct dates now.

Has anyone faced the same problem?

Shall I just write Germany – 2010- 2012 & Thailand 2010-2012; travelled multiple times? or suggestions please!

Regards
Shweta

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Amber July 18, 2013 at 10:04 pm

Hi,
I have lodged EOI and my State Sponsorship is under process. Mean while can I apply for Australian Student Visa. Does my EOI / SS application effects my Student Visa Application. Pls advise.

Regards, Amber

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Mahi August 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm

HI Amber,

I wonder if you have applied for SS, then why you are considering applying for Student visa. If you get an invitation for your EOI, launch the visa as early as possible so that you will get Bridging Visa and you can wait until the CO is assigned for your case. If your current visa is expiring before you get an invitation and you are thinking of launching a student visa till you receive the invitation, I think there are chances of getting your student application rejected until your case officer is fully satisfied with your objective.
My suggestion is as soon as you get invitation, launch your visa.

Regards,
Mahi

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Saeed July 22, 2013 at 5:55 pm

Hi,

Just a quick question, if you have submitted an EOI and you get invitation to apply for state nomination from one state in which you are not interested to go. Can one ignore the invitation? Will other state will invite or EOI will get locked and removed as you haven’t applied to that state?

Problem is while applying for EOI it doesn’t let you choose multiple states. Either u can pick one or all :D..

BR

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BobinOz July 23, 2013 at 4:08 pm

Sorry, I don’t know the answer to this one, does anyone else? Maybe you can decline the offer? Anybody know?

Bob

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Mahi August 2, 2013 at 1:09 pm

HI Saeed,

An EOI will be locked for 60 days after you get an invitation. If you dont apply for visa in that 60 days, your invitation will expire and then you can cancel/withdraw/update your EOI. My suggestion is let the current invitation expire and then launch a new EOI mentioning your preference for state. IF you choose only one state, you will get an invitation from that state only, where as if you choose All, you will get an invitation from any state depending upon the occupation availability.

Regards,
Mahi

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Kavitha July 26, 2013 at 1:08 am

Hi, I have submitted my EOI and have been invited to apply for Subclass 189. The invitation ends on 13th September.
However, I have done some mistake in my application and would like to withdraw so that I can start afresh. Unfortunately, I do not seem to have a “Withdraw” option on my EOI homepage at all. Am I to wait for my invitation to expire in order to withdraw?

Thanks in advance!

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Ruchi July 26, 2013 at 8:16 am

Hi Kavitha,

You can file another EOI as of now and wait for getting invited the second time. You haven’t already waited long enough, you might get the second invitation before your first invitation expires.

Once your first invitation starts, you can withdraw that EOI.

This will help you save some time.

Regards
Ruchi

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Kavitha July 28, 2013 at 3:26 am

Thanks alot Ruchi. :)

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Ayomide Samuel July 26, 2013 at 8:10 am

First I like to appreciate this useful and educating blog kudos. What are the likely questions to be asked in the living and working in West Australia test in the application invitation.
Thanks.

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vinay July 31, 2013 at 4:45 am

i m a 485 visa holder and i traveled to overseas and applied for 190 visa while in overseas and still i m overseas and my dependent (husband) is living in Australia. my current 485 visa will cease in Sept 2013. whether my husband get bridging visa. i applied 190 visa on may 2013. still no co assigned. is that because im overseas?

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BobinOz July 31, 2013 at 2:35 pm

I don’t know the answer to either of these questions from Ayomide and Vinay, maybe somebody else reading this will help you out. Anybody?

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Prakash August 2, 2013 at 10:33 am

Hi! I have submitted EOI for family sponsorship 489 visa for darwin .my TR visa will expire in June 2014. I just want to know that if I get invitation for this visa how long can I stay in sydney. Can I stay till my TR visa expire or I need to go Darwin as soon as I get invitation?????

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Mahi August 2, 2013 at 12:58 pm

Hi Prakash,

You can still stay on your TR visa till it expires, no problem with that. After getting an invitation, you need to launch your application and then a Bridging visa will be issued to you, but the Bridging Visa will come into effect after your current visa (TR) expires. so until unless you receive 489 visa, you can stay in Sydney till your current visa expires and then on Bridging visa. Hope this clarifies.

Regards,
Mahi

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Prakash August 3, 2013 at 11:05 am

Thanks a lot Mahi for this information.

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MatthewTJ August 5, 2013 at 2:41 am

Hi,
Found this page very useful earlier in the visa process and was wondering if you could kindly help me again.

My skills assessment authority has discounted my masters degree and only gave me 2 years of relevant work experience. I have just submitted an EOI with a points claim of 75 as I claimed for my masters and my 4 other years of work experience. My question is whether I should I have done this? I understand that DIAC can ask for the opinion of my assessing authority and I am worried that they will discount the extra qualification/experience I have claimed for.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Matthew

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BobinOz August 5, 2013 at 2:45 pm

I’m not sure about this one Matthew, hopefully someone else can help. Anybody?

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Anna August 6, 2013 at 4:35 pm

Hi there,

If someone can shed some information would be really appreciated.
EOI was successfully launched and got the invitation to apply for Visa subclass 190.
While I was applying EOI, I was not married, and got married before getting the Invitation, and I have not updated my changed circumstance to EOI.
As I have got the invitation to apply for PR, can I add dependent to my PR application , not sure am confused. Any advice

Thanks

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Mahi August 7, 2013 at 9:32 am

Hi Anne,

Yes you can add your partner in your application until a decision has been made on your application.Please go through the following link:
http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/including-family-members/

IF not just go through the DIAC website on how to add family members to your application. But sadly, you have to pay an extra 1450$ for your partner to be included in the application. Just fill out all the forms and then attach to your visa application and once a CO is assigned she will contact you if she/he needs more information.

Regards,
Mahi

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Anna August 8, 2013 at 4:31 pm

Thanks Mahi..

While applying the EOI i have answered the below question as “No”,
Are there any family members the client would like to include in future application?
Would the client be accompanied by the client’s partner in a future application?

that’s y am very sceptical, can the spouse be added to my PR application.
Now the scenario is very specific, Any info would be really good.

Cheers

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Mahi August 9, 2013 at 4:02 pm

Hi Anna,

You can add your spouse in PR application and what you can do is fill out FORM 1023 (I guess) and mention in it what mistake you have done in your EOI and attach it to your application. If CO needs more information she will contact you directly regarding your marriage certificates. So my suggestion would be fill out the form and attach it. I won’t think that you did a big mistake there by selecting No.

Hopes this helps.

Regards,
Mahi.

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Anna August 9, 2013 at 4:19 pm

Thanks Mahi,

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michaella August 8, 2013 at 2:42 pm

hi bob,
i have a bachelor degree in agricultural an crop protection with 3rd class honors,i sat for ielts with 8 and 7.5 in one:( I am 32 will be 33 in oct and actually waiting for vetasses approval to do my EOI. My visa expire the end of this month. I have my husband family permanent resident in victoria.

my question is that do i have a chance to get the visa faster?

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BobinOz August 8, 2013 at 3:47 pm

Your husbands family are permanent residents in Victoria? Surely you are part of your husband’s family? I’m confused.

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michaella August 8, 2013 at 4:20 pm

Sorry,yes my sis in law is permanent resident.

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michaella August 8, 2013 at 4:42 pm

DO I HAVE A CHANCE TO GET AN INVITATION? IF YES HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE

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BobinOz August 9, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Gosh, no need to shout! There is no set time on this, it can either be quick or painfully slow, for some an invitation may never happen. I have no idea what your chances are.

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michaella August 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm

hi bob,
I have a diploma in Community welfare work,dioploma in Business Marketing and a Advanced Diplma in Management all Australian Qualification. Would my partners get 5 point with me in the apllictaion for 489. Can someone help please. Thanks:)

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Layla Turner September 26, 2013 at 3:07 pm

LOL

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aparmakar August 9, 2013 at 2:47 am

Hi,

At what stage do I have to declare my previous overstay?

It was 4 years back so will it be an issue if I do not declare that?

Please help…..

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BobinOz August 9, 2013 at 1:11 pm

I’m only guessing here, but I suspect you declare it on any form that asks you about any previous overstaying of visas or breach of visa rules. I’m sure it’s on every application form, and not declaring it when asked could be looked upon as fraud or deception.

You need to be sure you answer all questions you are asked as accurately as possible.

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Jay August 9, 2013 at 8:54 pm

Hi,

NSW just received my application for subclass 190 last week. Just wondering if it will affect in anyway if I ticked three different subclasses in my EOI (489, 187 and 190), or should it be just one visa to be nominated? I’ve heard for example that SA only wanted their state to be picked and only 1 type of visa? How true is this?

Thanking in advance.

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BobinOz August 11, 2013 at 8:14 pm

I can’t answer your question fully, I just don’t know, but I have also heard that there are certain states that only want you if you nominate their state only, and if you don’t they will not invite. I don’t know for sure which states they are, but I’m sure they change depending on their own situation and politics.

So, unfortunately, it’s not easy to choose your preferences for the best outcome.

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Arman August 10, 2013 at 3:18 am

Hi Bob,

How long will it take between creating EOI and receiving invitation to apply?
I have got only 60 points.

Many thanks!

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BobinOz August 11, 2013 at 8:23 pm

This has been asked many times, maybe you should read through the comments and answers above, you will learn a lot about this process.

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michaella August 11, 2013 at 6:37 pm

Hi Bob,
we are going to lodge an EOI soon just waiting for the vetasses. We will be applying for a 489 family sponsored visa once we receive the invitation. Should we lodge more than one EOI to increase our chances of receiving an invitation since my family who will be sponsoring me lives in Victoria. Do you think we should also lodge EOI for state sponsorship?
Thanks
Michaella

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BobinOz August 11, 2013 at 9:55 pm

I don’t fully understand this process, but I do know this question has been asked before in the comments above. I would suggest reading through these comments to see what has been said about this before, lots of people have given some excellent advice in this thread. I think you’ll learn quite a bit if you read it all.

Cheers, Bob

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vinay August 12, 2013 at 8:32 pm

I applied for ACS in Feb and got positive response, I have completed
my Graduation in 2004 (BSC) and after that i have been working as software
engineer to till date .
meanwhile i did Master of Science from NIIT mumbai as part time and completed in 2011, But ACS has certified my Master Degree with 6.5 years of exp in ACS letter, Now will DIAC count my experience from 2004 or only from 2011, I have counted many agents , they say DIAC will count exp from 2004.How true is that.

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BobinOz August 13, 2013 at 12:25 am

“I have counted many agents , they say DIAC will count exp from 2004.” – By that you mean you have asked many agents for their advice already? If so, I’d go with what they say, they know far more than I do.

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michaella August 12, 2013 at 9:33 pm

Hi,
need help, I am on my way to lodge the EOI for 489 will do it by myself as agent cost too much. I am confused… is one EOI application enough, my family is in Vic only. Been reading through all the above comment but could not find the answer to it. can you please help me. Also I saw on the above comment that lots do mistakes on country of residence should I put Australia when i do it as my visa expire on the 28 /08/212.

Please need reply it really stressful

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BobinOz August 13, 2013 at 12:27 am

I don’t know the answers either, I’m just as confused as you are. That’s why I used an agent and why many other people do as well.

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Andrew August 12, 2013 at 10:20 pm

Hi,
Thanks for your nice job,

I applied for a 189 Visa on 1 Feb and submitted all docs required by 20th of Feb, Since then i have never heard from DIAC or my CO. I have called 4 times and written quoting the CO’s name and team in bris as given by DIAC call centre staff. To date not a single response has come through to me.
I’m feeling like am in remand, never felt so helpless. I come from what is classified as a high risk region, could this be the price i am paying?

Please help with any ideas.

Thanks in advance.
Andrew

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BobinOz August 13, 2013 at 12:45 am

Hi Andrew

From what I can remember of our process, it took at least five or six months before we were even allocated a Case Officer. Sounds like you’ve already been given one, so that’s something.

It may just be a case that there is a long queue at the moment, so I’m not convinced you have been placed in the naughty room, but obviously I can’t speak on behalf of DIAC.

I hope something starts happening for you soon, cheers, Bob

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Hashan August 13, 2013 at 3:15 am

Hello,

I did my skill assessment on aug 2012 and applied for the EOI on April 2013 and got the EOI for 189 subclass on July. I heard that with the latest changes with ACS they reduce 2years from the work experience bucket.

Will DIAC do the same even though i got the ACS assessment and the EOI lodgement before the rule chaanges ? if that happenes when my visa is out to process, if they do the same I will not have 60pints and will be in the risk of getting the visa rejected.

Thanks

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Farhan August 13, 2013 at 5:14 pm

Dear @Hashan,

When I applied to ACS for skill assessment under “System Analyst” (in May 13), they deducted my initial relevant experience of 2 years. They said it is requirement to reach the appropriate skilled level for your nominated occupation.

After the above assessment, I applied for a review under “Software engineer” in Aug 13, they counted all my experience of IT. This time they have not deducted any experience. And I shall get full marks for 8 yrs of experience.

My question to you is, In which ANZSCO you got the assessment and invitation to apply?

And as per your comments, I guess you got the invitation within 3 months of lodging EOI. Right?

Regards

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Hashan August 14, 2013 at 1:17 am

I applied for both the EOI and ACS as ICT business analyst
ACS application was sent on Aug 2012 and I got my skills certified by Sep 2012

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Ruchi August 13, 2013 at 5:23 pm

Hello Hashan,

If you filed the EOI for the same role for which you got the ACS assessment done, DIAC would not deduct any experience while processing your application.
I was invited in the month of May and have received the visa and I wasn’t told that any deduction was done.

Regards

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Farhan August 13, 2013 at 5:45 pm

@Ruchi,

Can you please share the following info, it will be helpful.
- Your ANSZCO
- When you lodged your EOI & when you got Invitation
- How long it took to get your visa, after submitting your documents to embassy.
-Your visa office/country

Thanks.

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Ruchi August 13, 2013 at 7:20 pm

@Farhan
I was already in Australia on work visa when I filed for the EOI.
I got my ACS assessment done for ‘Analyst Programmer’.
I had good enough points, so got the invitation in the next cycle only (next month).
My case officer was allocated in 6 weeks and I submitted the documents within another 6 weeks, including health checks and police verification as I had started the process earlier.
Got the visa in next few weeks.

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Hashan August 14, 2013 at 1:13 am

@Ruchi

Thanks a lot for the information
I submitted my visa application yesterday and waiting for a response with fingers crossed…

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Muneeb August 15, 2013 at 2:33 am

Dear Bob and all the people holding wealth of knowledge

am glad that you all are providing very good insight and knowledge sharing,,,thumbs up for all of u

i have a query and would like u to plz help me out in it

1) i am a project manager with over 6 years of experience, i have done projects of fiber deployment, VSAT deployment for connectivity, DVB installation for internet connectivity, Multimedia netwrok deployment for TV Cable and internet, WiMAX sites for braodband, software developmebt projects, portal development projects,,,,,,,,,,i wish to know does these come under ICT Project Manager domain for australia imigration ?

2) ICT project Manager is not on the SOL …..its only on CSOL for WA, ACT, Vic,,,,,,,is it a problem if i apply for state nomination under ICT project manager since its not on the SOL ? but is only on CSOL ?

3) is there any specific format for ACS experience reference letter ? because i have not found any .

plz guid eme as u all know more then me .

thanx

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Hashan August 15, 2013 at 2:52 am

@Muneeb

I don’t know how much this information will help you in your question. But I too am a Project Manger specialized in software project management. Because project management was not in SOL I chose to apply as an ICT business analyst. I have got my EOI through that and now waiting for a response from the visa application.. (Fingers crossed ;) )

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Muneeb August 15, 2013 at 3:03 am

thanx hashan

i also thought of ICT analyst,,,but my experience is more of project manager then analyst ,,,,so i will not b able to get experience reference letters….

bro can u plz guide me for the format of experience letter to be given to ACS……… as u have gt ur approved,,,plz let me knw wat r the important things to be added and what shall be the flow of the letter,,shall it be headings, paragraphs, bullet points etc ??
thanx

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Hashan August 15, 2013 at 12:13 pm

I got the letters done according to the req at ACS. But it was okay with my employers because I have done most of the BA related work even as a PM. First check with your employers if they can give you letters.

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ammu August 24, 2013 at 2:06 am

Hi Hashan,
I am in a similar situation of yours and my invitation will expire on 30th August. I am with Degree in Electronics & communication and acs reduced 4 years experience. Please help me.. should I proceed with the application without considering that deemed date.
Thanks
Ammu

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muneeb August 24, 2013 at 5:25 am

Dear Bob and all other experienced guys
can you help me in one thing
i need to get my skills assessed by ACS- they have asked to apply online by sending all the documents in a pdf format after scanning. They have also mentioned that all the documents shall be certified and this statement i quote from the skills assessment guide “A document is a certified copy when the original document is photocopied or scanned and a person authorised to certify documents stamps and signs the copy, signifying that it is a true copy of the original document.”

what i understand from this is that either i shall get my original document photocopied first , get it certified and then get it scanned and send it.
Or does it mean that i can simply scan my original document and send them ?

plz reply
thanx

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Ruchi August 24, 2013 at 8:35 am

The first option.
Photocopy, then get it certified and then scan that copy.

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muneeb August 25, 2013 at 10:26 pm

Thanx Ruchi,
actually i got confused in the statement where they have written that either copy or SCAN the original dcument, so i thought that i can just scan the original copy, and sicne it would b a colored copy, hence wont be required to get it certified.
thanx for ur support

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Saeed August 28, 2013 at 4:20 pm

Hi Muneeb,

You need to find the attorny who has the authority to certify documents. What you need to do is make photocopy of your original documents. Take them to registered attorny and they will see the originals and put the stamps on the photocopies. You then need to scan the attested photocopies and send for assessment and use them later where ever required.

You need to get each and every document attested that you will be uploading like passport, experience letters etc.

BR

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Muneeb August 28, 2013 at 10:36 pm

thanx Saeed

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Bk August 24, 2013 at 2:07 pm

Hi,

My husband applied for an EOI and also got accepted . He added me to his application , but did not claim points for that. Now I have a question . We are unable to get marriage certificate , it i taking too much time and they are insisting on putting a new last name for me on our certificate . To get rid of this complication, and not to delay his app anymore , is it possible to remove me from his accepted EOI ? I can apply later when everything is sorted out. please help us !!

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BobinOz August 25, 2013 at 9:35 pm

I’m not sure what the implications might be of removing you from the application at this stage, so I wouldn’t want to advise you on this. Maybe you need to speak to a MARA agent unless somebody else here can help. Good luck! Bob

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John August 27, 2013 at 7:35 pm

Hi Bob,
I have done my skills assessment successfully from Engineers australia and now about to submit EOI for visa class 190. In the EOI form there is a selection of state nomination for which I chose “Any state”. I have not yet submited the EOI.
My query is does DIAC advertise my occupational skills to all the states if I choose any or do I have to apply seperately for state nomination?
If I have to apply seperately ,are there any charges involoved .
Also Can I submit EOI (Class 190) before I receive state nominations ?
If I have received a state nomination by applying independently , how will the DIAC know that I have received the state nomination?
Will the state nominating me inform directly to DIAC?
Or is there any way I should inform DIAC about the state sponsorship.
I know there are lot of questions but would request you give me this information.

And let me tell you this site is a great one .

Thanks in advance

John

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Nick August 28, 2013 at 12:49 am

HI Guys,

I m new to this forum.
Hope you guys can help me out with this query

I had submitted EOI with 60 points for 189 visa in june 2013.
Recently, I had applied for another skills assessment (ANZSCO CODE) and got a positive assessment. Now I want to change/update my nominated occupation in the EOI – is it possible to do this?

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damian hall August 28, 2013 at 4:59 am

Hi Nick
Why would you want to risk it and change. I believe the skills assessment is a gateway for your 189 (or other visas if required). You don’t have to do this occupation when you arrive and your skills assessment from what I heard is pretty useless once you arrive as there is other training likely to be required.
Unless you have reason in that you put your EOI in before you got you skills assessment done which I believe is a big no no
I might be wrong though.

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Nick August 28, 2013 at 11:53 am

Hi Damian,
Thanks for the reply.

My occupation is close to reaching its ceiling. So I had applied for another skills assessment for a different ANZSCO CODE and it turned out to be positive.
Now i want to update my EOI with this new ANZSCO CODE. Should I update?

What do you suggest I should do?

Thanks,
Nick

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Saeed August 28, 2013 at 4:15 pm

Hi Nick,

As per my understanding 189 doesn’t get much impacted as its independent visa. However if you have a positive skill assessment for another domain. I’ll suggest you sumbit a fresh EOI and withdraw the first one you submitted. When you log in to your EOI page their is an option of withdrawing it. I think I have seen it some where after log in not sure exact location.

Hope this helps.

BR

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mehreen August 28, 2013 at 2:41 pm

Hi All

I have got a positive assessment from ACS in ICT Project Management . SInce my occupation is not on the SOL but only on CSOL for few states such as , ACT< WA< SA< and Vic,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i wish to know taht do i have to get state nomination first and then apply for EOI, or Is it that i sahll apply for EOI and in the options where it asks for state or all states, i can nominate one statae

your support is highly appreciated.

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Saeed August 28, 2013 at 4:10 pm

Hi Mehreen,

You need to apply for EOI. You need to fill in each and every detail in EOI as per points you will be claiming and it will ask you later in application for state you wish to apply. You can either choose one or All states. Once your EOI is complete and submitted the state will send you sponsorship through EOI. Takes few weeks depending on ceiling available and number of applications in queue. Then you will lodge the application accordingly.

You need to get IELTS results in hand before applying for EOI.

All communication is through EOI so much so you finally apply for immigration through EOI.

Hope this answers your question.

BR

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mehreen August 28, 2013 at 10:40 pm

Dear Saeed, thank you for your reply
I can not apply for all states, as my occupation is ICT project manager and it is not on the SOL, so i have to take a state nomination.

In this case, i will submit my EOI and will mention the state i wish to obtain state sponsoprship from ? or will i have to ask the state first and have a nomination letter in hand before i apply for the EOI.

I have already taken IELTS and score is 7.5 over all with atleast 7 in each

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Saeed August 29, 2013 at 12:33 am

Dear Mehreen,

You can submit EOI for SOL and CSOL both. The states you mentioned earlier offering ICT Project Manager sponsorships are for if you want to apply for a specific state and intesrested to see if that state has skill shortage in your application area. You can’t look for state sponsorship other than EOI, rule changed from July this year i guess. Now you need to submit EOI and mention the state in that EOI. You will receive sponsorship if quota for that state is not filled. If its filled it will remain in queue till it opens again. If you select All states then any state who need your skills can sponsor you.

IELTS score sounds good you can easily qualify for most of states.

This information is based on my research and experience so far. Please do refer to departments website for latest updates :).

BR

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kapil sharma August 29, 2013 at 8:56 pm

Dear bob, i have got a positive response for my vatassess and have score of 7 each in ielts. my age is 35, exp 12 years and working as manager in pharmaceutical company SALES REPRESENTATIVE (MEDICAL AND PHARMACEUTICAL PRODUCTS) ANZSCO CODE 225412. i have applied for P R with my family (wife and 2 kids). i have send EOI also on 28th aug 2013. my querry is :
1 how much time will it take for eoi and what are my chances?
2 whats after i get a positive EOI ?
3 how much funds required?
4 what if my wife does not get 4.5 each?
5 after positive eoi, how much time to get a visa ?

regards,
kapil sharma

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BobinOz August 30, 2013 at 1:21 am

Wow, that’s a lot of questions you have there. I don’t know the answers, and if you read the above article you will know that I don’t answer these kinds of questions. Lots of other people on my website and particularly on this page help out where they can, and for that I am very grateful.

Actually, let me say that out loud; THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED OTHER PEOPLE OUT HERE – I mean it, I really do appreciate it and I am sure those you have helped out have appreciated it as well.

Kapil, you have asked five questions, six actually as your first question has two questions. Two of your questions are repeated. Some have already been answered above in the comments.

Just saying, I’m not sure people are going to be busting a gut to help you out. I do hope things work out for you though, take care, Bob

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mehreen August 30, 2013 at 4:17 am

dear kapil,
i am not an expert, but i have researched a lot , so according to my research here are the answers

1) once u file and EOI, normally its takes 1-2 months , since ur points r gud, so u might get it in 1-2 months
2) once ur EOI is accepted, u will be asked to pay the visa fee and apply for visa
3) u need almost 3 months fund at the rate of almost 4000 AUSD per month. (this is atleast)
4) if ur wife can not score 4.5 in ielts, u wil have to pay an extra english language teaching fee to aus before they give u vis for a course of english ur wife will haev to take in australia…the cost is i guess around 450 or 4500 AUSD, please check from governtment wesbiste for exact figure
5) after u apply for visa , for general skilled migration its gonna take around, 10-14 months for visa

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Ruchi August 30, 2013 at 10:39 am

Hi Kapil,

First, I would advise you go through the website Govt. website. It contains detailed information about each step and it is much better to know the complete process. What all of us on this website tell is usually based on our personal experience or what we have read. So, out information could be ‘out-dated’ in case there has been a policy change.

However, as a starter, since I got my PR recently, I would add a few points to what Mehreen has stated…
3) Not really clear about 4000 AUD per month. If you are asking about visa fees, it is around 3500 AUD and that is a one-time fee.
4) If your wife cannot get 4.5 in IELTS, the extra fees to be paid is 4500 AUD for the English course.
5) If you get all documents ready, like the medical examination and police verification, marital proofs etc., it might not be 10-14 months after receiving an invite. Mine was quicker.

Hope it helps, and yes, do visit the Govt. website.

Regards
Ruchi

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John August 30, 2013 at 11:59 am

Hi
Can anybody tell me if I need to apply seperately for state nominations for visa 190?
WIll DIAC do it for us after having submitted the EOI or do we need to find our own state sponsorship.
ANy help on this will be appreciated.

Regards

John

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Layla August 30, 2013 at 12:39 pm

Hi everyone
Does anyone know, what is the process for a “skills assessment”? What happens and what does one entail? I am offshore (in NZ).
No EOI submitted yet, I’m just interested.

Thanks :)

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BobinOz August 30, 2013 at 6:13 pm

Well, when my wife did hers, she had to prove her skills as a marketer. So she put together a portfolio including marketing brochures she had designed, photographs of displays she had organised, obviously full details of all companies she had worked for as a marketer as well, list of achievments, that sort of thing.

She put a lot of work into the project, after all it was down to her to prove to them she had the skills, so the package she put together was really comprehensive and well presented. That’s what she had to do anyway, but I suspect it might be different for different professions.

Cheers, Bob

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Layla Turner September 4, 2013 at 8:54 am

Thanks Bob, informative as always :)

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Ruchi August 30, 2013 at 7:11 pm

Hi Layla,

Skills assessment varies with different professions. For someone in Information Technology, skills assessment is done ACS (Australian Computer Society). You have to provide all proofs for experience, and education and then it is determined if you are suitable for a particular role.
Similarly for other professions as well I presume.

Regards
Ruchi

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Yusuf Ali September 3, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Hi Ruchi,

Can you please tell me how much time does EOI takes, and how much time does visa takes, is VISA fees refundable in case of rejection ? reason why I am asking because its a huge fees.
What is the percentage of rejection of Visa even though all the docs are in line with the requirements.

Once you get the Visa, how easy it is to get the job there in Australia upon arrival.

Regards,
Yusuf

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Ruchi September 3, 2013 at 8:13 pm

Hi Yusuf,

I might not be able to answer all your questions.
However, just to answer a few: After you file the EOI, you get the invitation based on the number of points you have claimed.
Based on the points, it could be 1 to 6 months, even more.

After you get the invite, there is no fixed duration within which you would receive the visa. Besides, all proof documents, we need to get the health check done, police verification.
So it depends and could vary with each application.

The fees is not refunded back if the visa is rejected.

Jobs would depend on the industry you work.

Regards
Ruchi

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Layla Turner September 4, 2013 at 8:58 am

Thank you Ruchi. I imagined that would probably be the case.
Do they assess you in the workplace or is it just “on paper” evidence?
Does anyone know if “temp” jobs class as experience?
And finally what defines “experience in an occupation thats closely related”, who decides its “closely related”?

Cheers

:)

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BobinOz September 4, 2013 at 4:16 pm

I don’t really know the actual answers here Layla, my suspicion is its paper evidence for the most part in the assessment stage, but some professions require a workplace assessment or further training when you get here before you can do what you do in Australia.

I’m pretty sure experience is experience whether gained in permanent or temporary work and I suppose ultimately it is DIAC that decides what is closely related and what is not, although MARA agents would have a good idea of how this works.

I know you are in the process of completing your visa assessment for my MARA agent, when you submit your assessment you can always add additional notes and ask further questions and Miki will certainly be able to help you with those.

Cheers, Bob

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Ravi September 3, 2013 at 10:21 pm

Hi
I submitted EOI for 189 but not for 190, can I change it, will it have any effect on outcome?
And here is most important question I have taken IELTS Academic with overall band of 8 and Min of 7.0, but I read DIAC only consider General Test, but in EOI there was no where any column to specify module type.
Anyway in case I got a invitation should I risk the visa fee?
Thanks In Advance
Ravinder
P.S : Earlier I was planning for studies in NZ/Aus so took IELTS(Sept 12) but circumstances changed and I had to drop idea of studies.

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Ravi September 4, 2013 at 3:18 pm

Hi Bob/Ruchi,

Rephrasing question again.

I have taken IELTS Academic with overall band of 8 and Min of 7.0, but I read DIAC only consider General Test, but in EOI there was no where any column to specify module type.
Anyway in case I got a invitation should I risk the visa fee?
Thanks In Advance
Ravinder
P.S : Earlier I was planning for studies in NZ/Aus so took IELTS(Sept 12) but circumstances changed and I had to drop idea of studies.

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BobinOz September 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm

I don’t know the answer to this Ravi, but I do know that the academic test is much harder than the general test, so I really can’t see how it can go against you.

That’s my view, anybody else have more experience on this?

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Furqan September 4, 2013 at 4:17 pm

Hi Ravi,

The normal requirement of DIAC is a General IELTS test for all the applicants. However, it is the requirement of the Skills Assessment Authority, which type of IELTS they require to assess your qualification and experience. For e.g. I have evaluated my qualification under category External Auditor and the assessment authority (CPA Australia) requested Academic IELTS, whereas for the category Internal Auditor there is no specific requirement from the assessing authority (VETASSESS), hence General IELTS will work.

If you have applied for the visa category 189 and received the invite then I am sure you must have passed your assessment already on the basis of your Academic IELTS. If it is so then there are no worries.

The general rule for IELTS is GENERAL IELTS …. hope this will help :)

FY

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Ravi September 4, 2013 at 5:26 pm

Thanks Bob and Furqan.

I got +ve assessment from ACS 2 days back, but they never asked for IELTS.
So I think from assessment authority POV IELTS GT should be sufficient.
I’ll wait for invitation and put my situation forward to invitee, lets see how they take it.
Bob you are right its harder then GT :) waiting for invitation now.
Thanks
Ravinder

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Akhil September 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm

Dear Sir/madam,

Can you please advice or suggest if Australia Immigration department is/will accept IELTS Academic for people who are applying for PR ( Subclass 189 ). Have you experienced any clients cases which you have dealt with recently. Please let me know. I got my invitation a week back to apply for visa. Kindly, suggest.

Thanks

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Mairaj September 10, 2013 at 5:35 pm

Dear Akhil

As you know the immigration requirements is General IELTS. In 189, there are however, some professions that need Academic IELTS, such as accountant and external auditors. Only for such cases where the assessing authority requires Academic IELTS, it will work, otherwise, I have checked with various sources, that only General IELTS will be accepted.

I would not suggest you to try your luck by paying the fee and then getting to know that you do not match score because general IELTS is missing.

Regards,

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Akhil September 10, 2013 at 5:58 pm

Thank you Mairaj, I was very much convinced with some proofs posted by few people on Australian blogs that, their Visa was accepted with Academic score, under subclass 189 as Network Administrator, which made me fall into an ambiguity situation. your response is greatly appreciated !

Edit by Bobinoz: if you look at Furqan’s comment above, he believes this is the case. Maybe it would be worth asking your CO if he would accept your Academic IELTS.

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Ravi September 10, 2013 at 6:38 pm

Hi Akhil,

Good to know you got invitation, I think best way to clear doubt is directly call DIAC officer, I’m also in same situation but waiting for invitation.
Do post the outcome.

Thanks
Ravinder

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Akhil September 10, 2013 at 6:53 pm

Hello Ravi,

I have read your comments & thought the same this morning. However, leave me your mobile number or message me to akhil.devraj@gmail.com , we could discuss some productive things. All the best .. Thanks

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Akhil September 10, 2013 at 6:55 pm

mine is 9989000762 (Hyderabad )

Yusuf Ali September 4, 2013 at 8:17 pm

Ruchi,

Thanks you so vry much, have one more question if you dont mind please. I fail to understand if the private bodies are doing assessment eg : ACS for skill and Vetassess for qualification, why the hell the Visa guys do it again, I mean If I am already spending hell a lod of money in getting the assessment done through ACS/Vetassess then why Visa guys.

What do the Visa guys check basically ? Qualification and Profession! is it a spot check or they just do it over the telephone thingy……?
Regards,
Yusuf

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Nilesh September 5, 2013 at 4:12 am

Hi Bob,
I have applied for EOI and got invitation to lodge visa. After that I have lodged my visa application along with Visa fees on 4th August 2013. Till today I don’t have any updates on Visa processing. Could you please help me how I can find the latest update or how to estimate time required to get final visa?

Thanks

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Saeed September 5, 2013 at 4:38 am

Hi Nilesh,

It takes some time to get case officer appointed depending on type of visa you have applied. Keep waiting some one from department will get in touch with you. Meanwhile upload the documents attachments you have so case officer can request the missing ones. Ill suggest to wait for medical and police verification till they ask as they have limited period validity.

Check department website they have given apprpximate processing time it should have a link from page from where u can chexk application status.

Br

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Nilesh September 5, 2013 at 1:50 pm

Thanks Saeed for your quick response. I missed to mention that i have applied for 187 visa and have uploaded all required documents on 4th August itself, however still dont have case officer assigned. Do they have any criteria to assign officer? and how i can know currently which applications/from which week are being processed?

Thanks

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Hashan September 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm

Its the same for me, i am on 189 category and i lodged the visa application on 13th Aug 2013. Still eagerly waiting for a response.

Does anyone know how long it will take generally ? it says on the DIAC site that it will take approx 12 months. But im guessing this is the worst case scenario.

Thanks

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Saeed September 26, 2013 at 12:01 am

Hi Hashan and Nilesh,

Any progress or still waiting? I must say once you submit the case then time doesn’t fly … lol.. since you two have filed before me so just curious if its proceeding or still silence :). Do share steps after filing immi application .. just for awareness and approx timelines.

BR

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John September 5, 2013 at 6:17 am

Hi Bob,
I have applied 190 visa. I got case officer on 26 Aug, 2013. However I havn’t heard anything from her yet. She hasn’t asked for any document. getting worried with every passing day. Any idea why case officer is taking time in making decison?

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BobinOz September 5, 2013 at 4:19 pm

Getting a case officer assigned is good news, but as that happened only a week or so ago I think it’s a little early to panic yet. I don’t know how long it usually takes before the case officer asks you for further information, but clearly they need to read through all of your things first before they know what they want.

I’d be inclined to wait a little longer, maybe somebody else here who has been through this process will let you know how long it took before their case officers got in touch.

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Vinay September 15, 2013 at 12:40 am

Hello Bob,
Useful post. Thanks!! I am a business analyst. If I submit an EOI in november (My IELTS is scheduled for oct 26th) , will my chances of getting an invitation reduce since it is nearly the end of the year and the required number of people are already through? Please help!! Should I submit it in the beginning of next year??

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Hashan September 15, 2013 at 5:10 am

In my experience, the earlier you apply the better !

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gaurav September 15, 2013 at 9:23 pm

i have send EOI on 29th aug and waiting for reply. i have filed under sales representative medicinal and pharmaceutical product anzsco code 225412.
is this profession in demand and in which state? further are there still seats left in this field ? what are my chances of getting a positive reply and when can i expect a reply.
i have got 70 points in eoi calculation.
regards

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Ankur September 19, 2013 at 6:01 pm

Hi Bob and Everyone ,

Need your kind suggestion. I got a positive skills assessment from ACS but flunked in speaking by 0.5 (IELTS S=6.5) to gain those 10 points for EOI.
It would take easily more than 2 months in India to get results of IELTS revaluation, so meanwhile i decided to get my spouse evaluated for ACS for 5 points.
Now the immigration consultants whom i have hired are asking for 500AUD more for lodging spouse application.
I wanted to file for her ACS on my own , please suggest if any other document is required to gain the 5 points apart from the ACS letter?

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BobinOz September 20, 2013 at 12:23 am

Maybe this is something you should be asking of your immigration consultants? After all, they do know everything about your case. That’s what I would be doing.

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Ankur September 20, 2013 at 1:31 am

Thanks bob.. appreciate your response.
I shall do the same.

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Connie September 20, 2013 at 2:16 pm

I am now with graduate visa class 485 and am waiting for the invitation from EOI. The graduate visa will be expired in 3 weeks. As I am employed full time, I don’t want to lose my job. Is there any department that can help? Or could I get a bridging visa?

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BobinOz September 20, 2013 at 7:10 pm

I can’t answer that question Connie, but if you were to go through my Visa Assessment Service my MARA agent would be able to give you your options.

Good luck, Bob

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Gina September 21, 2013 at 12:23 am

Hello Everyone.

I am about to apply for the visa 189 as “Other Enginners” but I have found that due to the high level of applicants seems that they are just inviting applicants with score higer than 70 or 75. I have 60 point, and I am not sure if this will be a problem, have anyone with 60 points applied recently?.

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Guru September 25, 2013 at 2:50 pm

Hi,
I had applied for 190 visa subclass, and still waiting for out come. I am in software industry from last 9.9 years and applied in same category and filled EOI, but got ACS with 8.9 yrs last year and applied on the basis of same( Claim 15) points.
Done my Post graduation in Computers and ACS recognise the same at graduation degree as per Australian education( Claim 15 ) points.
5 for state sponsorship and rest for age.

Hope they will not reduce 2 yrs from my Work experiance as per new rules.

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Saeed September 25, 2013 at 11:56 pm

Hi Everyone,

Just a quick question, I tried to long in to see my application status and from last couple of days it says the service is temporarily unavialble. Have anyone else faced similar issue? I think I had long in through that and uploaded the supporting documents or may be I got routed from somewhere else – don’t remember exactly. If some one can share the link through which they are reviewing submitted application and uploading documents, please share it.

I haven’t been appointed a case officer yet. so fingers are crossed :)

BR

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Tharun September 26, 2013 at 12:08 pm

Hi,
I have applied for the reissue of my passport since my passport is about to expire in a couple of months. I am planning to apply for EOI with my current passport details.

1) Will it make any problem if I update my passport details (passport number) in EOI after getting new passport?
2) If I get the new passport pnly after getting invitation, can I edit the passport details?

Thanks,
Tharun.

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Saeed September 26, 2013 at 4:03 pm

Hi Tharun,

I have read it some where on department website that passport shall be a valid passport it means it need to have a valid period before you apply. I’ll suggest to fill in complete details in EOI but submit it with new passport.
1. You need to upload scanned attested document of passport and enter complete details of passport so its suggested to get a new one and then apply.
2. EOI can be updated at any time. Invitation does take some time depending on skillset you are applying.
Hope this helps
BR

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Tharun September 27, 2013 at 8:50 pm

Thanks Saeed!

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Hardit Singh September 30, 2013 at 11:44 pm

Dear sir,

I am retired person from Indian army likely aged 47 years, i applied visiting visa for austrelia through my niece as her sponsorship. But embassy has been refused to grant the visa on this basis. please guide to me for visiting visa to austrelia at the earliest.

Thanks

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BobinOz October 1, 2013 at 1:21 pm

I can’t help you with this Hardit, as your visa has been refused there is obviously some kind of problem so my best advice would be to consult a MARA registered migration agent. Hopefully they can help you with this.

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Sarah Quirk October 3, 2013 at 6:23 am

Hi Bob…u must think I’m stalking u around ur blog and website!! Im trying to absorb as much information as I can so Im able to get through this processs successfully (I blame my law degree) Long story short…husband applying for 189 visa, on skills list (secondary school) so just collecting all relevant info for that (of course hes managed to lose gradiation certificate, not sure how he survived before me lol) so am I correct in thinking if we are successful we then do the E.O.I. and if thats successful they invite us to apply for interview??? Sarah

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BobinOz October 3, 2013 at 11:19 pm

Dang! Not you again? :-)

I’m afraid I shy away from giving specific advice about the process, I leave all that to my MARA agent because he knows what he’s talking about. Me, I’d just be guessing.

There are plenty of other people who read these comments who have been through the process, so maybe someone else would explain it precisely to you. I think you are probably right though, the first thing is to make sure you actually qualify for the points that you are going to say that you have when you complete your EOI. Next thing is, I think, that you wait for an invite which you might get based on the points that you have said you think you have.

Then you need to prove that you do have the points that you think you have by way of documentation and if you can’t prove it, or if you’ve made a mistake, then things could start to go horribly wrong as I’ve mentioned in the article.

That’s how I think it works, can anyone else here explain the process?

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Siva October 4, 2013 at 1:18 am

my skill is 261313 – software engineer. I have got IELTS score 6 in each module. Now my points are 55. I am planning for state sponsorship. Can anyone tell mw which state accept band 6, Please..

Thanks
Siva

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BobinOz October 4, 2013 at 12:53 pm

I don’t know the answer to that question, but if you ever decide to retake IELTS to try and get a 7 in each module to increase your chances, then it may be worth you grabbing a copy of How to Pass IELTS.

Bob

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Matthew October 7, 2013 at 9:21 pm

Hi Bob,
I waited 60 days for my visa invitation to expire as I wasn’t 100% happy after I had submitted my EOI. When I went into skillselect to change my EOI, literally as I was updating it I was invited again, still with the original score that I was not happy with. I was wondering if you had heard of this case before and if so if you had advised anyone in this situation.
Thanks,
Matthew

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Ruchi October 7, 2013 at 9:27 pm

Hi Matthew,

Not heard of such a case. However, you can rather submit another EOI instead of waiting for the first one to expire with the correct details.
Once the first invite expires, you can withdraw that EOI.

Regards
Ruchi

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Matthew October 7, 2013 at 10:37 pm

Thanks for the information Ruchi, much appreciated.

Just to clarify, I have submitted an EOI for 189 visa and was invited. However, rather than wait for my invitation to lapse I can submit another EOI for the same visa type (189)?
Many thanks in advance,
Matthew

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Ruchi October 7, 2013 at 10:43 pm

Yes, that is correct.
If we make a mistake unknowingly while submitting an EOI and get invited; we can submit another one for the same visa.
This will save time. Only thing we need to remember is to withdraw the first EOI when the invitation expires.

I had a similar issue and the AU visa contact centre suggested me this option.

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gaurav October 8, 2013 at 11:19 pm

hi……this is gaurav . i have send my EOI on 3 sept and waiting for reply. i have filed under sales representative medicinal and pharmaceutical product anzsco code 225412.
is this profession in demand and in which state? further are there still seats left in this field ? what are my chances of getting a positive reply and when can i expect a reply.
i have got 70 points in eoi calculation.
regards

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gaurav October 8, 2013 at 11:20 pm

pls do respond…….somebody who has applied under the same or have some info regarding this pls help me out. i am eagerly waiting for response

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Alex October 9, 2013 at 4:18 am

Hi,

I am currently awaiting the results of my ACS assessment before progressing down the route of an EOI for a 489 visa. I have a question on points:

Assuming a successful assessment against the SOL code, I would have:

0 points for my age (47)
20 points for IELTS (hopefully!)
15 points for Skilled Employment Outside Australia
15 points for Bacheler Degree
10 points for Family Sponsorship

This would give me the minimum 60 points required. Might this be sufficient to receive an invitation? If I was offered State Sponsorship through EOI, would this effectively give me 70 points, or would this override the family sponsorship leaving me with 60?

Would a successful IELTS test for my partner be worth anything, even though she has no relevant skills?

Under the 489, would I be liable to the same additional costs (schooling and medical) as under the 457 visa?

Thanks for any assistance,

Alex

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Abrar October 9, 2013 at 5:50 am

Hi,

Can please someone guide me from where should i start my application for 189.
I have more than 4 years experience in Accountant (General) and done MBA as well.

My second question is will skill test department take test for occupation you are applied for? or how it works. Please advice

Thanks in advance.

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kj October 11, 2013 at 9:18 am

Hi bob

I am aiming at visa 189.

I am currently doing MASTER OF LAWS in united kingdom.i have done BACHELORS WITH HONOURS from india….

I have my score 7 in the ielts ACADEMIC.

By the time I get my masters degree I will b 25 yrs of age and I will b getting my degree in December 2014

Could you please guide me on the following

1) i will be applying after getting my masters degree..my points should be around

Age-30
Qualifications-15
Ielts-10
That makes it 55. In the meantime I will be trying to score an 8 in ielts whch I am sure I will be able to.

Is 65 a gud score.???

2) what chances do I have if I submit an expression of interest. Is it compulsory for them to invite me as my score is abv 60

3) its 2013 n I intend to apply by july or december 2014. Will visa189 still be available by that time keeping in mind that its a new visa which has jus come into existence. I can apply by july because my birthday falls in june and I don’t need to wait for my masters degree. As bachelrs and masters both are provided with 15 marks only.

4) i am an advocate by profession but i have no experience whatsoever. Should I wait for my masters degree or apply right after I am 25 yrs of age.

Please give a detailed reply….I shall be really obliged.

Thanks

and YOU ARE DOING AN ABSOLUTELY COMMENDABLE JOB.keep up the good work.

Tc

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Ruchi October 11, 2013 at 12:49 pm

Hi KJ,

Let’s go one by one.
First: If you have points above the required level (60 or 65), you can apply for EOI. Higher the points; earlier you get an invitation. With 65, you will get an invitation but you might have to wait for months.
For getting Qualifications or skills points, your degree needs to be evaluated by an assessing authority based on the ANZSCO code you select.
Here is the list of ocupations:
http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/a-z.htm

Also, I have heard that since Skillselect asks for General IELTS score, it is better to give your next IELTS in the General category instead of Academic.

Hope it helps.

Regards
Ruchi

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BobinOz October 11, 2013 at 6:45 pm

Well covered Ruchi, thanks. Bob

Just one more thing, kj, you asked about 2014, the rules change every year so no one can correctly answer what will and won’t be available in that year or what the points system might be. Good luck!

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Yusuf Ali October 11, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Dear Bob,

Just a quick one, DIAC has different method of accessing skill and qualification or do they follow the same pattern as Vetasses/ACS does? I mean, I have got both qualification and skills assessment done by Vetassess and ACS and I got the positive result. So just wondering after paying a huge amount for visa it shouldn’t get rejected by any means….? At least in those two areas…!

Regards,
Yusuf

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BobinOz October 11, 2013 at 6:52 pm

Hi Yusuf

As far as I’m aware, DIAC doesn’t assess skills at all, it just looks at qualifications or assessments performed by the relevant authorities. If you have had a positive assessment by a recognised authority, that’s good enough.

That’s how I understand it, but I don’t know all the rules, so can anyone else reading this confirm what I’ve said?

Thanks, Bob

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Yusuf Ali October 11, 2013 at 7:36 pm

Thanks for your lightning response Bob, I really appreciate it, but just for my understanding what do DIAC check then for granting Visa….?

Regards,
Yusuf

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Ruchi October 11, 2013 at 8:02 pm

Hi Yusuf,

For getting a visa, besides skill check, there is medical examination, police checks etc. that need to be done as well.
Also skill checks do not count for all points claimed in the EOI. There are documents for age verification, IELTS scores etc.
DIAC basically verifies all documents, validates that the applicant passes all criteria based on the results of all checks.

I can think of the above points, there might be other things as well.

Hope it helps.

Regards
Ruchi

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Corin October 15, 2013 at 1:53 am

Hiya,

I submitted my EOI 4 and a 1/2 months ago and have heard nothing since. Is that normal? I have read various messages from people saying they have ben invited within a few weeks. Does this therefore mean I am unlikely to get an invitation. I had a score of 75 and had hoped to be successful.

Thanks for any advice you can give!!

Corin

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Ruchi October 15, 2013 at 9:39 am

Hello,

With 75 points claimed, not getting an invitation for 4.5 months seems quite unlikely.
As per all I have heard, invitation is based on points and 75 is quite good.
Not really sure what exactly is causing the delay…. sorry can’t help here.
May be you can call the contact centre and ask if there is anything besides points that is considered for invitation. They might not answer the exact reason for your case but could atleast provide some general insight.

All the best
Ruchi

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BobinOz October 15, 2013 at 3:38 pm

I think also that each skill has a number to it, for example there might be an allocation for, say, 2000 accountants. When they reach the number I think they then stop sending out invites?

So maybe it’s to do with your skill having reached the invitation limit. Maybe someone else can throw more light on this possibility.

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Mayank October 18, 2013 at 5:59 am

Hi
ACS came positive but they cut short some of my experience and considered only 06 years of total experience out of 7 years and 09 Months. Meanwhile by the time 08 years of experience completed and
EOI submitted after that with 60 Points for SS
Suddently come to know that 5 Points credited automatically after 10 days of submission.
Hence applied for 189 also, along with 190 ( NT SS ).
Could you please let me know whether DIAC considered points for my total 08 years of experience or will cut down 05 Points referring ACS ??
Also How much time it going to take to get invite for 189.

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BobinOz October 18, 2013 at 2:05 pm

There is no set time for how long it takes to get an invite, it’s different for everyone. I don’t know how DIAC will calculate your points, maybe somebody else here can help you with that one.

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mohamed October 23, 2013 at 5:37 am

Please advice whether 6000 $ is suitable, within range or high expensive as a profissional fees required by a profissional agent for an ICT business analyst PR visa

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BobinOz October 24, 2013 at 12:20 am

I don’t know Mohamed, it really depends what’s involved and what the fees cover. If it includes all government fees it might be okay, but I couldn’t tell you for sure. Besides, there’s more than just price, supposing he took your money and didn’t do anything?

That would be expensive, wouldn’t it?

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Mayank October 24, 2013 at 2:03 am

Hi

I am applying for 190 subclass and applying for NT sponsorship.
just need to ask I don’t have any reference for NT region and hence leaving
Friends/Relative reference option as blank while submitting NT sponsorship form.

Does it make any difference or chance not to get concern state sponsorship without
any reference for that region ??

Waiting for your reply.

Regards
Mayank

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Anil A October 31, 2013 at 3:17 am

Hi Bob,

I don’t find any better forum to get answers for my queries.
I have done my ACS assessment for Software Engineer. I got a positive reply, but my non IT qualification is not mentioned in the report. I have a Bachelor Degree (Bsc) from India, which is a non IT graduation of 3 years. I have completed my IELTS as well, with 7 band in each module.

I have few questions :
1. Can I go ahead and submit my EOI assuming I will get 15 points for my qualification?
2. Is Points Test Advice from VETASSESS is mandatory? If yes, can I submit my EOI now and do the Points Test Advice parallel, since it may take 2 months to get the result.
3.I sent a mail to ACS assessment team, I got the reply as below:

“The ACS can only assess and report on ICT qualifications. You would need to seek advice from the relevant assessing body should you wish to have your non-ICT degree assessed.

Any questions in relation to the allocation of points will need to be directed to the Department of Immigration”.

4. Any idea if I will get my 15 points for my non ICT graduation?

Could you please reply to my queries.
Thanks in advance,
Anil

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Yusuf Ali October 31, 2013 at 11:53 am

Hi Anil,

I am also facing the same problem, and my consultant adviced me that I should reduce 5 point for taking no chance, that means I will then have to apply for state sponcership earlier it was 189, but qualification you will get 15 point, even it was assessed separately. You can drop me an email if you want to discuss it more.

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Anil A October 31, 2013 at 12:28 pm

Hi Yusuf,

Thanks for the reply. So, we can apply for 189(Skilled Independent), giving 15 points for Bsc even though the qualification is not assessed?. If we are sure we will get 15 points, can we have the qualification assessed by vetassess and apply for EOI?.

Could you please send me a mail to discuss in detail?My email is anilantonym@gmail.com.
Thanks,
Anil

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BobinOz October 31, 2013 at 2:29 pm

I’m afraid I have to stay out of this one, I have no idea. Bob

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Russel November 3, 2013 at 8:56 am

Hi Bob,
While submitting the EOI, I made the ‘stupid’ mistake of applying for a subclass 489 visa thou i was very sure that I would be able to get 60 points in the subclass 189 visa and 65 for the subclass 190 visa.
I have now got an invitation for the subclass 489 visa.
Since I am not interested in the subclass 489 visa is it fine if i make another EOI and ignore the EOI I had previously submitted. Do I need to inform DIBP or DIAC to cancel the EOI before I make a new one.

Another query is – My work experience as per the skills assessment Authority is 7 years.
However in practical work experience, it is less than 5 years, the Skill assessment authority is completely aware of this. and the work experience as such because of my work in the Oil and Gas Sector offshore.
My question here is that in the ‘Employment Section’ of the EOI can I enter the work experience as 7 years or do i need to enter the practical work experience i.e. 2 months contracts
Thanks
Russel

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BobinOz November 5, 2013 at 1:50 pm

Sorry Russell, I’m simply not qualified to answer these kinds of questions, but hopefully somebody else reading this may be able to give you some tips.

Cheers, Bob

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Russel November 24, 2013 at 3:04 pm

Hi Bob,
Unfortunately last time I forgot to thank you for the fantastic job you have done by making this blog. It is really helpful.
1. I did speak to DIAC (now called DIBP) who told me that there is no problem in making another EOI, but they clearly asked the number of EOI’s I had made. Luckily it was just 2. They also clearly mentioned that I need to withdraw the wrong EOI as soon as the 60 days are over.
2. Regarding the points DIAC said that the case officer is a better judge of the situation.

Just thought that I should inform you of the same on the blog, because this information may help other interested applicants.
Thanks
Russel

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BobinOz November 25, 2013 at 1:28 pm

Thanks for the update Russell, good information which I’m sure will help others going through this process.

Cheers, Bob

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Sam November 6, 2013 at 6:28 pm

Hey guys,

I am so thankful that this website is here for friendly help! And the fact is that I might well need it! And I thank you all in advance.

I submitted my EOI on 30/10/2013 and got my invitation on 4/11/2013. Quite quick, isn’t it? But being quick has given me so much trouble. The reason is that I haven’t got my completion letter yet and I estimated the ending date of my accounting master degree as the last day of exam (26/10/2013, and since I cannot put a future date, so I thought I would update the detail after getting completion letter), and it turns out to be wrong! The ending date is supposed to be 8/11/2013. Now since I already got my invitation, I cannot update the details anymore. And even worse, forgive me for being so careless and stupid, I put the wrong starting date as 19/03/2013, instead of the right one: 19/03/2012!

And I got IELTS (7 for each band), and skill assessment (finished already with my bachelor degree and necessary accounting courses). I would really like this to be finished asap, instead of waiting for 60 days.

So:
1. Can I apply another EOI under the same visa class to get queued again, instead of waiting for 60 days?
2. Can I apply anyway since it is an honest mistake? I can support all my points claim, but it’s just that this piece of information is incorrect.
3. What would be your suggestions here?

Thank you all a trillion!
Sam

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Sam November 6, 2013 at 6:30 pm

By the way, I am applying 189 with accounting nomination.

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Ruchi November 6, 2013 at 8:38 pm

Hi Sam,

Instead of waiting for 60 days, you can apply for a new EOI so you get invited again in the next round.
After 60 days, you would have to cancel the first EOI.

Regards
Ruchi

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Sam November 10, 2013 at 2:02 pm

Thanks a lot for answering Ruchi, but I have heard and actually read in this thread that applying mutiple EOIs for the same nomination will result in serious consequence. And that’s why I’m not quite sure about it…

So does anyone have any similar situations? Can anyone else give more opinions? Just pooling all information here : )

Thanks guys,
Sam

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Ruchi November 10, 2013 at 3:08 pm

Hi Sam,

I myself faced a similar situation and was under the impression that I would have to wait for 60 days. I even let around 20 days go by and then on someone’s suggestion called the IMMI contact centre for General Inquiries.
I was advised this by the support staff.
I was so unsure that it could be done and that I probably was misunderstood that I called twice to confirm :-). Only thing they mentioned was to cancel the first EOI as soon as 60 days are over.
I think it would be an issue if people file Multiple EOIs just to have a better chance to be invited based on number.
Yours is a genuine case and it is only 2 EOIs.
However, it has been about 5-6 months since I called, and for your personal satisfaction, you could call again on – 131 881 and mention your case. If there is any policy change, I am sure they would let you know.

Regards
Ruchi

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Sam November 11, 2013 at 9:33 am

Hi Ruchi,

Again, words cannot express my gratitude now. Thank you again for the advice, I’ll call and find out.

Many thanks,
Sam

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anupma November 7, 2013 at 3:02 pm

I have lodge EOI 2 months ago… but still wating for the invitatiion.
What to do? please suggest.

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BobinOz November 8, 2013 at 5:04 pm

There is no set time limit on these things, you simply have to continue to wait for an invitation. There are no guarantees that you will get an invite either, as I understand the situation.

Maybe somebody else here reading this may have different advice for you, but as I don’t really understand this process myself, I have no further suggestions. Good luck though, Bob

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Gurwinder Mann November 9, 2013 at 3:21 am

Hi,
I had applied for PR under skilled independent in 2009 & got cleared all the way to medical & got 110 points, but due to family problem, i was not able to go Australia. Can I reopen the old case again, I am 32 Year with 10 Year of experience with Electrical Engineering, assessment is already completed by Engineers Australia. One more thing my IELTS is 3 years old, so should I give it again & should My wife also gives IELTS?

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BobinOz November 11, 2013 at 1:06 pm

Can’t help with that I’m afraid, I really don’t know whether your original application would have expired buy now or not. You will need to take this up with DIAC or talk it through with a MARA registered migration agent.

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Gurwinder Mann November 14, 2013 at 3:17 am

BobinOz,
Thnaks for your reply. Should I apply with new application under EOI & if i get invitation to apply for visa, will it be surety for job on reaching there or have to search job after reaching there?

Gurwinder

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BobinOz November 15, 2013 at 2:01 pm

Again, these are questions for a MARA agent.

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BK November 9, 2013 at 12:44 pm

Hi,

Me and my husband applied for PR. Basically he is not taking partner points, just added me as spouse. We got invitation to apply for visa. Now, a case officer has been assigned to us and he is requesting for relationship proof. In email , attached document it states , prior to marriage. We have already uploaded our marriage certificate. We got married in February this year. Now, I am just wondering why would they ask for an additional proof ? We had been seeing each other for quite some time before wedding, mostly over emails and chats because we were in 2 different countries, long distance relationship. I was just wondering why would they need a proof of prior to marriage relationship, considering some countries are really orthodox and don’t even let couple date each other before wedding, just saying !
Has anyone else here also been asked for prior to marriage relationship proof as well ?

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Ruchi November 10, 2013 at 3:15 pm

Hi BK,

There are cases when people might get married just for migration purposes. So, the CO(s) ask for evidences. That is their general standard procedure.

I do not have the exact resolution for this but just a suggestion.
May be someone else could help as well.
If you cannot furnish any prior to marriage relationship proof (which I agree could be a case with lots of people), I would suggest you mention this to your CO.
You can always send them an email and discuss things. They might provide you an alternative.

Anyone else…

Regards
Ruchi

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BK November 10, 2013 at 11:57 pm

Thanks Ruchi. I can send them some pictures of our engagement that happened a year before wedding. But I am just thinking how would they believe they are from a year back and not recent.
Has anyone here ever sent chats / emails as a relationship proof ?

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Alex November 11, 2013 at 1:00 am

Can you send copies of joint bank account statements, rental/mortgage agreements etc?

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BK November 11, 2013 at 1:22 am

Hi Alex,

I could send them rental, but that is post wedding, they want something prior to that ..

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Anil A November 13, 2013 at 3:53 am

Hi All,

Thanks everyone for answering my previous questions.
I have completed my Skill Assessment from ACS. But, my Bsc from India is non-IT graduation and ACS has not commented on my qualification in the Skill assessment report. ACS has given positive assessment for my work experience.
As discussed with few other friends in this forum, I am applying for Point test Advice on Qualification from VETASSESS, which may take 3 months. This is to make sure that I can claim 15 points for my qualification.

I have few questions about this now:

1. Is it mandatory to have the qualification assessed by some assessment body? Can I claim 15 points without this?
2. If yes, can I submit the EOI now ( For the occupation,Software Engineer, it takes minimum 5 months to get invitation with 60 points). I may get the Qualification assessed by VETASSESS in 3 months. So, I can submit this Point Test Advice Report at the time of invitation. Is this a good idea?
3. Bsc graduation from India can get 15 points for qualification?Anybody has received 15 points for this from VETASSESS?

Can someone please let me know if VETASSESS consider Bsc as equivalent Australian graduation?
Thanks everyone in advance.
- Anil

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Akhil November 14, 2013 at 3:21 am

Hello Bob,

Does Australia Immigration team accepts IELTS Academic under 189 ? As per experience, did it happen to any of your clients that, they got their visa granted with Academic scores for IT Professional.

Thanks & Regards,

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BobinOz November 15, 2013 at 2:05 pm

If you search this page for the word “academic” you will find much discussion about whether it is accepted or not. Personally, I don’t have any clients, I’m not a MARA agent.

Thanks, Bob

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Krishnan November 20, 2013 at 2:29 am

Hi Pady,

This is with reference to your post on February 20, 2013 at 1:27 am. I have a similar situation. Could you please help me with details of how you resolved your issue.

Thanks,
Krishnan

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van November 24, 2013 at 2:09 pm

Hi everyone, Im extremely desperate now and really really need your feedbacks from anyone who knows the right answer.
My case is I completed the Bachelor of science in the University of Queensland, then I also completed the Foundation level of Cpa (which is 8 subjects in total) and got my positive skill assessment from Cpa as an accountant. I lodged my EOI with 65 points,nominated skill as Accountant, claiming 5 points toward Australian study requirement as my Bachelor degree was done in Australia and took 3 years. I got invitation at 1st round and already lodged my application.Now, one of my friend showed me the link which says I can only claim 5 points from Australian Study requirement only if my Bachelor is closely related to my nominated occupation, and in my case Bachelor of science (biology) is no related to nominated skill as an Accountant. Is it true that we can only claim 5 points if the study is relevant? I rang up Diac and told them abt the link and they even couldnt give me a straight answer, the lady told me that she needed to check it again and would get back to me in a week.
Anyone used to claim points from unrelated qualifications? please please let me know. I would appreciate sooo much !!!!
If I cant claim those 5 points, i have to withdraw the application, lose all money and start over again. I dont want that and im so stressed now.

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angali November 25, 2013 at 1:34 am

hi bob, and all the knowledgeable people , please please please guide me for below 2 points:-

1) I applied for my skill assessment to ACS. I started my job in 2007 till today makes it 6 years. This is exactly what was written on my experience letter i submitted to ACS. I have received a positive assessment from ACS stating that they recognize my experince of 6 years starting from 2009. Now here is the problem, in the letter in heading they have written your 6 years experience starting from 2009 has been accept. whereas in the detail of the letter they have written that you job with xyz employer since 2007 till 2013 under capacity of manager projects has been equated and approved. NOW the problem is that they have said 6 years starting from 2009. i beleive it is a type, it should have been 2007. I have requested ACS to update it and correct the information but havent got any reply yet and its been 2nd week. Shall i wait fro their response or may i still file a state nomination application , since i have the date of skill assessment and the reference number ?

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Anil November 25, 2013 at 8:13 pm

Hi Angali,

I guess the statement in your ACS report starts something like the below one:
“The following employment after is considered to equate to work at an appropriately skilled level and relevant to of the ANZSCO code".
In this, they are not mentioning the year of experience( as you mentioned, 6 years) in the report. If one date is mentioned, we can calculate the experience only from that year only( in your case, exp from year 2009 ). ACS deduct the years if your total experience is not closely matching with the nominated occupation or your graduation is a non-ICT graduation. Please be careful when you submit the EOI. If the experience in the ACS report and the one in EOI is not matching, your application may be rejected.

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angali November 25, 2013 at 9:46 pm

dear Anil
thank you so very much for your reply . let me paste the exact words from my letter.

The following employment after May 2009 is considered to equate to work at an appropriately skilled
level and relevant to 135112 (ICT Project Manager) of the ANZSCO Code.

Dates: 05/07 – 07/12 (5yrs 2mths)
Position: Senior Executive Enterprise BI and Strategic Projects
Employer: XYZ Telecom Limited

Dates: 07/12 – 08/13 (1yrs 1mths)
Position: Assistant Manager – Project Management Office
Employer: ABC Limited

Now , i am confused that if i start counting experience from 2009 it makes it less then 5 years and hence i get 5 points for my work experience.

But if i count my expereince from 2007 as the dates are also mentioned on m ACS letter, then it makes my experience of 6 years and i get 10 points for that.

although considering less then 5 years and 5 points my total points become 65, an di istill qualify.

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Anil November 25, 2013 at 10:08 pm

Hi Angali,

In this case, you should consider your experience only from May 2009 while submitting EOI. ACS has considered only this experience even though you have your experience starting from 2007. They have deducted two years from your total experience. In my case, it is more than that since my Graduation is not closely related to my nominated occupation.
Please make sure that you include only this experience from 2009 in EOI to avoid any rejection. Since you have 60 points with this experience, nothing to worry about qualifying for this visa.
One more thing, is your graduation related to the nominated occupation? Is your qualification assessed by ACS? If it is assessed by ACS, there will be a statement in the report about your qualification. Please check

Thanks,
Anil

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angali November 25, 2013 at 10:55 pm

Thanks for the guidance anil
yes my education is assessed by ACS and they have stated that it equates to austrain bla bla bla , degree of beacholars with maor in computing.

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rachel November 25, 2013 at 1:39 am

Dear All , can any of you guide me with my EOI application:

I have applied for victoria state nomination. My skill is not on the SOL but only on CSOL. So i have to have the skill assessment. While i was awaiting for my response from victoria state, i have filed and EOI as well, putting victoria as option of my preference state. In the EOI application, they have only asked have u applied for state nomination ? they do not as , have you been given the state nomination. Is it ok to do it like this.? I beleive by hte time i receive an inviation to apply i would still be given 60 days to upload all my documents, and i beleive by that time my victoria state nomination would be with me. So do you think it is a goo diea to work this way so that time can be saved??

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Russel December 14, 2013 at 3:24 pm

Hi Rachel.
I am assuming you have done the skilled assessment.
The Victoria nomination does take 12 weeks unfortunately. But they do not charge you for nomination unlike some States.
According to me there is no problem in you putting Victoria as your preferred state. But do not pay the visa application fees until it is confirmed by email that Victoria is willing to nominate you. Because if you pay the fees and Victoria does not nominate you, you could end up losing the visa fees.
However the quickest way according to me is -
1. Decide which state you want to live in
2. Do the skills assessment
3. File for state nomination if you need to.
4. File the EOI on getting the nomination

Regards
Russel

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BobinOz November 25, 2013 at 1:24 pm

As I have stated towards the end of the above article, I’m not a MARA agent and therefore I do not know the answers to any of your questions. I have left these comments open mainly in the hope that others who have been through this process might be able to help you out.

Can anyone help the above with their questions?

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WA November 26, 2013 at 6:22 pm

Hi Guys,

I don’t know if anybody can help in this question!!
For construction project manager role, if somebody got positive assessment from VETASSESS, and done all procedures after that. Is there any further requirements to be done in Australia to enable him working in this position, additional qualifications/test…etc.

Bob, you are doing very good job in this web site, appreciate it.

WA

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BobinOz November 26, 2013 at 10:05 pm

Thanks WA, hopefully someone can help you out with your question.

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Akhil November 29, 2013 at 7:04 am

Bob / Guys,

Can anyone suggest or have any email address for Australia Immigration department for clearing queries ?

Thanks in advance
AKKi

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zonfishy November 29, 2013 at 5:58 pm

Please help me Bob!
We’ve just lodged my hubby’s visa application for 489 visa. But how silly we are means while attaching the documents only we saw that we have done a really silly and bad mistake which anyone gets really annoyed. We submitted the application with incorrect spellings of my hubby’s name. Silly! Silly! Silly! Everything went so smoothly. we got all the receipts bla bla bla. but what will happen with the main applicant’s name in the application. Will we be able to discuss with our CO and change it?

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BobinOz December 1, 2013 at 7:26 pm

Hi zonfishy, well, I think this is a first, spelling your name wrong :-)

I think the good news is that it is an error that has given you more points than you should have, I think what you need to do is read through some of the comments above from people who have made similar errors as to how they have sorted it out.

From the experiences of others here, I think you will find that your CO will be quite understanding with this, so I don’t imagine it will cause you a massive problem.

Good luck, Bob

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Sehar December 4, 2013 at 6:21 pm

Dear All ,

please guide me for one thing.

After getting my skill assessment from ACS. i filed my state nomination for WA. Its been 2 months now, and I am expecting a reply within one month. Simultaneously, to save some time, I have filed and EOI through skill select. And i hope that within next 15 days, I will get the invitation to apply.

My question is , that Skill select will give me 60 days to file visa and pay fee and send all the related documents which will include the state nomination letter. By the time i receive my inviataion, and take my time to upload all the things, I wold have received my state nomination letter. BUT, i would not be having my state nomination letter AT THE TIME OF INVITATION. BUT will be having it till i upload all my documents within the 60 days.

please guide me shall i go for it, or if i have to have all the documents at the time of inviatioan, shall i withdraw my EOI ?

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mayank December 5, 2013 at 2:23 am

Hi
I am unable to understand why u r in so much hurry also why u r assuming results without getting any reply from any side.
As per my view ::
Once you receive invite from any state than only your Visa link get active at EOI side.
Once any state invite you and you accepted that invitation your EOI gets blocked ( means you will not get invitation from other state ).
Once your Visa Link active at EOI side you going to get 60 days of time to file for Visa.
Now I think there is no room for any confusion anymore.
Cheers!!

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Sehar December 5, 2013 at 1:46 pm

y am in a hurry ? becasue i really wana go now, i have been waiting for this for ages, its only now when my points have crossed the pass marks,,,

your reply is very accurate and to the point, there is no confusion ow, thanks a lot for the reply,,,i really appreciate it.

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John December 14, 2013 at 1:18 am

Hi Guys ,
Just wanted to tell u guys that i had applied for PR class 190 state nominated by western australia. i did my medicals on 6th Dec and PCC on 9th dec. Today(13th Dec) I got the PR granted by my case officer. It is really a miracle .
My advise to all is while applying for EOI be truthful , check 3 times that you have entered the eoi correctly and most important of all pray to Lord Jesus Christ. There is nothing that Jesus cannot do in this world. .
I promise you that if you trust in lord Jesus your PR will work out just fine. believe me. I promise u

John

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WA December 15, 2013 at 3:13 am

Congrats John, good for you.
I am on the same path, going for sub-class 190 , a month ago i submitted my paper for VETASSESS (skills assessment), I am waiting to get their response to be able to move for the EOI, can you tell us please how long it took for each step ?

Assessment ? EOI ? and the last step of the visa application !

Thanks,

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mayank December 16, 2013 at 3:06 am

Hi
Vetassess assessment generally takes 1-2 mnths of time,
No more surprise if it going to take 3 mmths or more than that becoz of festival season.
Once u get ur result positive than u need to fill up the Eoi and nominate for state sponsorship as WA, again to get the invite it going to take almost a month time.
One Imp thing :: check ur profession for WA if it fall insecond list u need a job offer to get the invite.:-S

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psdf December 18, 2013 at 3:06 pm

I totally Agree with you John !

I left all my hope on Jesus Christ. Its all finally in God’s hand and God’s will. All process went smooth and got PR in May and now am in Australia for my first entry :-)

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Amy December 19, 2013 at 11:15 pm

May I please have the name and number of a trustworthy migration agent? I am stuck on filling in my EOI because I do not have work experience?

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Russel December 19, 2013 at 11:26 pm

Hi Amy,
While there are many agents it depends whether you are using a MARA agent or not.
Personally I would only recommend a MARA agent if you are residing in Australia. If you are stuck because of work experience, there is nothing you can do even if you contact a MARA agent. Unless you have enough experience to prove the same and are just having a problem in making data entries.
Russel

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Amy December 20, 2013 at 8:56 am

Thank you so much Russel, I better save my money than for when I need it later on. I’ll focus on getting work experience. I only hope I get the working holiday in New Zealand, despite my deportation status.

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BobinOz December 20, 2013 at 2:29 pm

Sound advice Russell, no point in getting a MARA agent if Amy doesn’t have the work experience.

When you are ready to seek the assistance of a MARA agent though Amy, I recommend my agent, see my Visa Assessment Service.

Good luck, Bob

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sehar December 20, 2013 at 1:18 am

dear all, i have been so unlucky,,,,i applied for skill assessment 4 months ago for ICT Project Manager, at that time this occupation was on CSOL of SA,WA,ACT and victoria….now when i received my skill assesment after 3 months,,,this occupation is no more on the list of any state,,,its not available and not open for all these states
what shall i do ? shall i change the occupation to a similar one and get a new skill assessment ?
or shall i wait till the CSOL of these states gets revised? do the states revise their CSOl list ? or do they update the status of any occupation from not available to available or from closed to OPEN ? do they do it as DIAC revises and sets the CAP to 0 again every year?

please plz plz plz guide me

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BobinOz December 20, 2013 at 3:03 pm

Do you have a MARA agent you can talk to? I don’t know how it works, I really don’t, but I wonder if by beginning your application when your skill was on the list you can still proceed with your application.

It’s worth trying to find out.

Other than that, I believe the skills lists can change whenever the government feels the need to adjust it, but never any guarantees of what might appear or disappear.

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Russel December 20, 2013 at 5:05 pm

Hi Sehar/Bob
Well i can clarify this. If the occupation is taken off the CSOL by the states or the DIBP , even if Sehar does apply, nothing will actually happen, but the occupation ceiling will be renewed in July. If at that time Sehar’s occupation is on the new list, she will be eligible for the invite.
CSOL’s occupation ceilings get revised continuously
Russel

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Hashan December 20, 2013 at 9:14 pm

I my self am an ICT PM and when I’m applying i applied in the Business Analyst category to maximise my chances. I applied for the Skill assessment on last year and got the EOI on 2013 July and the PR on august.

Hope this information helps ! good luck !

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BobinOz December 20, 2013 at 9:50 pm

Great news Hashan, well done! Thanks for letting us know, I’m sure it will help someone.

Cheers, Bob

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Amy December 20, 2013 at 5:31 pm

Thank you so much for your feedback. I am not at all ready to consult an agent because I need work experience. A migration agent already has poorly informed me. I was told to take the IELTS test, that was probably $300 not well spent and time not well spent because it is no good to me without work experience.

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Russel December 20, 2013 at 5:36 pm

Amy,
I think you should just relax for a bit. I know its easier said than done.
It took me almost 1.5 yrs myself.
The IELTS is valid for 3 yrs, so do not bother about the IELTS.
Just concentrate on work experience.
Bob and some of the other members here will definitely guide you along the way.
They have been doing an excellent job already.

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Amy December 20, 2013 at 6:12 pm

Thank you Russel, you’ve confirmed what I thought. I am though hoping to get the working holiday in New Zealand so that it is easier to relocate my two cats and some belongings. I am working on my resume and cover letter for urban planning jobs now. I am so thankful to have this discussion site :)

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Layla Turner December 20, 2013 at 9:10 pm

Hi Amy
I have moved from Australia to NZ recently whilst I decide how I’m going to return to Australia. I came on a Working Holiday Visa, if there is anything you need to know, I’d be happy to help, if I can :)

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BobinOz December 20, 2013 at 9:54 pm

Thanks for clearing this up for us Russell, m