Australian Visas and Expression Of Interest (EOI): Caution!

On 1 July 2012 Expression of Interest or EOI came into play and the very next day, on 2 July 2012 I wrote this post about it. This post is still relevant today and from time to time I do update the information where necessary. The last update took place 4 July 2014.

Every year the Department of Immigration & Border Control (DIBP) reviews and revises the visa application process. They look at the jobs on the skills list, how the points are allocated and the whole process of making the visa application.

Then they tweak it all and come up with some new rules and procedures and announce them, usually, on July 1.

Expression of Interest or EOI

Here’s the process step-by-step, I’ll explain each stage in a minute:

Skills Select

  • Expression of Interest
  • Getting picked from the pool

Expression of Interest

Skilled applicants will be able to go online and enter their own EOI. The information they will be required to input will be quite thorough, equivalent to the six pages worth of information required to complete a Visa Assessment here on BobinOz.

Getting picked from the pool

Technically, you could get picked out of the pool by any one of Australia’s states or territories who require your skills, or any employer, or even DIBP themselves. You will get an invitation if you are nominated by the states or territories or if your occupation is on the SOL and you meet the qualification criteria you will receive an invitation directly from SkillSelect. You can still find your own sponsor and it is probably advisable to continue looking for one as nobody is really sure just how many states or employers will be scanning this system for people.

Once you are selected or have found your own sponsor, you move to the next stage.

Visa Application:

  • Pay the Visa Application Charge (VAC)
  • Your information is then verified
  • Fast track to Australia

So, what happens at each stage? It’s all still a bit daunting, and in places there is still uncertainty, but this is how we think it works.

Once you have been invited – by either Skillselect for an independent visa or invited on the basis of a state or territory nomination, you move to the next stage.

You have 60 days in which to apply after being selected. The great thing about this process is it is fast!

Pay Visa Application Charge (VAC)

Of course, your visa application will have a fee involved, payable to the Australian Government. You will be required to pay this fee with your application.

Your information is then verified

Remember that EOI you completed online a while back? I hope you didn’t tell any little white lies on it. I remember going for a job interview when I was about 18 years of age. Of course, I had a CV prepared. I never much liked the section called “Hobbies and Interests”, at the time mine were going to the pub, getting drunk and partying.

That’s not what a prospective employer wants to see, is it?

So I put sport and photography.

The interview went well, but right at the end, the interviewer said “So, what camera do you use?”

I looked at him in utter bewilderment; I’d forgotten my own hobbies. He reminded me of what I’d put on my CV and asked again what camera I used.

“It’s just a normal camera.” I said weakly.

Yes, many of us can tell little white lies to get that job on occasions.

DON’T DO IT!!

Not on an EOI. I will explain why under the pitfalls below.

Fast track to Australia

Yay! If all goes well, you will be in Australia in no time. But what about…

The pitfalls!

Caution!

When you complete your EOI online, there are no checkpoints in it. If you want to put yourself down as a brain surgeon with 15 years experience, you can. You can create a profile with 100 points if you want.

The system will accept it and place you in a queue.

Obviously, nobody in their right mind would do that, but maybe you’d be tempted to say you have four years experience when you have just over three? Or to say you have a qualification when you are still waiting for the result of that exam?

No, you wouldn’t do that, would you?

How about this then? There is a tick box somewhere along the line asking if you have had your skill assessed by the relevant authority. Maybe you are in the process of doing that, maybe you are thinking of doing it, maybe you tick yes.

Maybe you enter any kind of information into this document that isn’t quite correct. What happens?

If you enter incorrect information:

  • You are automatically refused when the discrepancy comes to light.
  • You will lose your Visa Application Charge fee.
  • You could possibly be banned from reapplying for three years.

The Australian government have a great migration blog to help you, I suggest that in particular you read their post called Busting the myths about SkillSelect for more information.

The EOI that you complete online is a legal document, please complete it with 100% accuracy, or you could be very sorry indeed.

As I have said already, you can enter the information for your EOI yourself. At this stage, it appears that non-MARA registered migration agents can also charge you a fee to help you with this process.

“Yah, I’m an expert EOI form filler, here’s my card :-). I can fill it in properly for you for just $300!”

Kerching!

If you do not want to fill in this form yourself, and you do want help, I strongly suggest that you use only a professional MARA registered migration agent or a qualified lawyer. It’s a legal document and great care has to be taken when completing it.

There are other pitfalls as well.

Let’s suppose there are 40,000 skilled jobs required in Australia for 2012 to 2013. Let’s say, for example, that 500 of those jobs are for accountants.

When those 500 accountants have been accepted through the whole process, no more accountants will be needed. But that information is not made public anywhere, accountants can still enter their EOI.

Some good news

It’s not all bad news, here are some little snippets of good news.

  • The points target has now been reduced to 60.
  • Students studying here who successfully gain a bachelor’s or Masters degree Ph.D. will automatically qualify for an 18 month working visa on completion.
  • Students will also qualify for an additional five points for studying here for a minimum of two years.
  • The new system is geared more towards a faster acceptance of those looking to get a 457 visa.

The downside

It will now be slightly harder for those who are hoping to come here directly on a Permanent Residency visa as preference will be given to those with sponsorships.

There is more, much more. But I think that’s enough for now.

Visit: SkillSelect for more details and to submit your EOI.

Comments: Please read…

Since this post went live on July 2, 2012 it has attracted a huge amount of interest and, at the time of writing this, 370 odd comments.

It is obvious that this process, Expression of Interest, is hugely confusing and many of you are having problems with it. Almost all of the comments below are questions about this process.

I would need to be a MARA registered migration agent to know the answers to these questions and I’m not. The above article was written after I had spoken at length to a professional MARA agent, for any of you who have read the article, you probably now know as much about EOI as I do.

I am keeping comments open on this post, but I will not be able to answer any questions. Hopefully somebody else who does know might pop by with an answer, but I would also suggest that you do have a quick look at all the comments that have already been made as your question may have already been covered.

Good luck to you all,

Bob

PS. The notices below, in a way, repeat what I’ve just said above but they also fully clarify my situation when it comes to comments.

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  • Allan August 25, 2016, 7:18 pm | Link

    Hi Bob,

    I received invitation and lodge my visa skilled sponsored 489. On my EOI, my points was 65 but i think i made a mistake, i think it only 60. On immigration website the required points for visa 489 is only 60. Do you think they will consider my 60 points? I am really worried that my application will be refuse.

    Please reply. Thank you.

    Yours sincerely,
    Allan

  • Sam August 25, 2016, 3:12 pm | Link

    Hi Bob,

    Your blog is quite informative in details, thank you for your guidelines. Can you please help me in finding the right answers to my queries.

    1. I do not have any nomination from SS, now if i submit a EOI with 189 and 190 subclass selection, and consider that i am picked by skillselect, then i would not get this extra 5points(as would get if i have a SS), then i would be only 55points, then still can i apply for visa.
    2. I also have my brother in AU, while submitting EOI can i submitt 189/190 and 489 also.

    Currently i submitted EOI with only 489, so total points are 60.

    OR can submit separate EOI’s for 189 190 489.

    Am yet to write the PTE as my IELTS was just 6.5 in each.
    My total calculation is as below
    Age 33 – 39 :::: 25
    English Language Ability Competent 0
    Educational ::: 15
    Years of experience 10

    If i get PTE over 65+each then 10points add.
    If i submit with 190, it add 5points more.
    if i add EOI with 489subclass then i get additional 10points.

    Please advise/suggest at the earliest.

  • aditya August 23, 2016, 9:28 pm | Link

    Dear Bob,

    I am mechanical Engineer with 3 years of experience. My current points are 60+5 under state nomination with PTE score of 65 each.My question is how long or what is the probability of getting invitation under sub class 190 for mechanical engineer.

    25 age
    65+ each pte score along with Ielts general 6 each.
    B.tech graduation in mechanical.
    3 years of work experience.

    please revert.

    • Jaideep Sharma August 23, 2016, 9:39 pm | Link

      Hi Aditya

      Jaideep here , Bob answer will be – I can’t answer this question for you, for the reasons given in the two important notices at the foot of the above article. Maybe somebody else reading this can give you advice; anybody got any ideas?

      But according to my point of view your processing time depends on many factors so nobody can tell time limit & your probability also depends on vacancies and other competitors like you for example if anybody have more points than you then he will be select . I hope you will be soon in Oz.

  • Keneth August 19, 2016, 3:01 am | Link

    Hi Bob, first of all I would like to thank you for your website with a simple but very informative and helpful.

    Anyway, I’m planning to apply for Skilled Sub Class 189 and actually got my assessment result positive. My concern is that we are family of 4, and I’m planning to apply myself first because the fee for the main applicant is $3500 and $1500 for the rest of the dependent. Is there any issue if I applied first and will just apply my family once I’m able to settled down in AU?

    Thank you..

    • BobinOz August 19, 2016, 6:26 pm | Link

      I can’t answer this question for you, for the reasons given in the two important notices at the foot of the above article. Maybe somebody else reading this can give you advice; anybody got any ideas?

    • Russel August 20, 2016, 5:07 am | Link

      Generally just the processing time should change. But you can always check up the requirements and process timings on the dibp website

  • vinny August 17, 2016, 7:17 pm | Link

    Hi Bob,
    I got my skill assesment result and it is possitive and now I have total 50 points ,I have submitted EOI for NSW for 489 subclass last month.Can I hope for possitive result as I read in 489 sc state will give me 10 points and I will be able for 4 years temporary residency.And how much time does EOI takes Normally?

    Thanks & Regards
    Vinny Sharma

  • Hillary Masambu August 15, 2016, 2:10 pm | Link

    Hello Bob,
    I submitted my application on the 9th August for 189 visa. The status shows received; could there be a chance that they have started processing it?

    Hillary

  • Sunny sandhu August 14, 2016, 12:55 pm | Link

    Hi bob…
    I applied for NSW 190 visa with 55+5 SS points as motor mechanic and received the invitation.. i submitted my all docs to NSW in 10 days already… pls do u have any idea that how long does NSW usually takes to nominate candidates ?
    Thanks 🙂

  • Zees August 10, 2016, 11:09 pm | Link

    Hi Bob !
    I’m currently on 573 visa but I will be applying for the 485 visa v soon. I remember that when i was filling the 573, there was a section where i had to fill details of my family members, which i never filled as been advised by my consultant (because not important as other members not accompanying). as I’m applying for the 485, i also came thru the same section but i intend to fill it up now. My question is that will it have any effect on my visa as i have not filled this section earlier? Appreciate your good work.
    Regards,
    Zees

  • gane khan August 10, 2016, 3:29 pm | Link

    hi bob,
    Gan here, I came here 7 years ago got permanent resident in here 4 months ago as a dependent applicant{my wife is primary applicant} Now we dont have good relationship with my wife so planning to get divorce she wants divorce too.. so if i divorce with her is there any chances to be cancel my permanent resident? and who should take to divorce declear paper to immigration to update status?

    • BobinOz August 10, 2016, 5:43 pm | Link

      Gane, you posted the same question five times in 20 minutes, three times addressed to me and twice addressed to Piyush, what are you thinking? You only need to ask the question once!

      I have deleted the other four exact same questions, please don’t do that again. I do not personally answer these kinds of questions, please see my important notices at the foot of the above article.

      • Deboo August 23, 2016, 2:44 pm | Link

        I have seen some articles & posts about similar cases. you can go to the official website and verify the same. After landing in Australia for the first time, you need to live with your spouse for a minimum of 1 year in order to save your PR status. if you plan to get divorced before completion of 1 year, then I am afraid you will loose your PR status.

  • michael August 7, 2016, 4:22 am | Link

    Hi,

    Guys i feel that i am frozen here.
    I got my EA approval last year and i applied for 189 visa but i didn’t get it because i turned 33 years and then i applied for 190 visa state nomination but till now i got nothing.
    what am i suppose to do ?
    Shall i try different country ? i feel that Australia doesn’t want me there.
    I am thinking of applying for chattered engineer but i don’t know where to start
    can anyone advice ?

  • Shiren August 6, 2016, 3:39 pm | Link

    Hello,

    We have applied under visa 190, got state nomination from NSW and have completed our medicals over 6 weeks ago. We have not received any update so far. Should we worry? Any advice or inputs are appreciated.

    Thanks,

    SK.

    • Deboo August 23, 2016, 2:48 pm | Link

      congrats! hope you receive the Visa soon.

      can you suggest within how many weeks / months you received the invitation? I submitted my EOI yesterday under 190, ICT Business Development Manager.

      a reply would be well appreciated.

      Regards.

      • vindu August 23, 2016, 3:00 pm | Link

        I got my invitation within a month exactly! I’m a nurse with 60 points under Tas SS… now waiting for my agent to file the application with immi

  • Meera August 6, 2016, 12:05 pm | Link

    Hi All,
    I will be submitting my Eoi with 75 points (maybe even 80 because my husband is also giving his skill assessment).I am already in NSW and working, but, filing from India…How much time do you think it will take from EOI till we get our PR, provided everything goes well.I need to know an approx. time so that I can prepare for my family’s arrival like renting an apartment etc.

    • Meera August 6, 2016, 12:10 pm | Link

      Also, the reason why I am asking is – if it is less than 2 months then I will ask my husband to quit as he has to serve a notice period in his company and also if it is more then maybe I will temporarily apply for dependent on 457 so that they can join me soon.

  • Faizaan August 5, 2016, 7:57 pm | Link

    Great can’t believe such a fast process in your case.I also had 60 points and put 190 for Nsw.I paid fee in april.Its almost 3.5 month now but still waiting for the decision.

  • Gaaythri vignesh August 5, 2016, 7:28 pm | Link

    Hi Bob,

    My cousin is doing his masters in Adelaide and he is planning to apply for 489 visas as hi brother lives there with citizenship status. Does he require ACS skills asessnment or can he directly lodge an EOI. Also his English is two years old. Can he submit the same with the overall score of 6.5. He is completing his study this FEB. Does he stay there on the student visa and apply for the 489. Can he extend the stay without applying for the TR.

    Thanks

  • CHANDRASHEKAR BEERANNA August 5, 2016, 12:10 am | Link

    Hi,

    I have applied for Queensland State sponsorship (190). Two weeks before i had submitted my EOI and it was accepted asked to send an application along with commitment letter. Any idea from here – how long would it take. Appreciate your replies as i new to this process.

    Thanks,
    Chandra

  • bj August 4, 2016, 8:45 pm | Link

    Hello,
    Just want to ask if you have any ideas how long does it take for the VISA 457 to come out after medical and nomination has been approved. Thanks

    • Meera August 6, 2016, 11:57 am | Link

      It takes about 4-6 weeks from your meds for 457 to come. This I’m saying from my own experience. Med I gave on 17 Mar 2016 I think and got my visa on 29th Apr.

  • james August 3, 2016, 6:41 pm | Link

    Hello Bob, i have submitted my EOI for Sub Class 190
    can you tell me if i can put “any” in the eio form when it comes to selecting a state
    because i have scored 65 points and it is been over 6 months and i have still not received any invitation for NSW
    Hence if i put “any” then any state which is open can invite me?

    please do let me know. pro’s and con’s for ” any” in eoi form when it comes to selecting a state.

    regards

    • BobinOz August 3, 2016, 8:28 pm | Link

      Interesting question James, hopefully somebody reading this can answer you. I don’t know the answer, but I have heard various ‘rumours’ about it. I believe it is possible to put ‘any’ in the form, but I’ve heard there is a possibility that some states may not consider your application because you have done that.

      They, apparently, prefer it if somebody stipulates their state. As I say, that’s just a rumour really, so I don’t know if it’s true. Anybody else got a take on this?

      • Saleha August 3, 2016, 11:29 pm | Link

        Well, that’s true, some states may not nominate. For eg ACT, you will have to provide a reason why it wasn’t your first choice.
        You will have to first check which states are nominating your occupation and then will have to check if you meet the requirements of that state. Usually for SA, NT & ACT you will need to apply directly for nomination and some of them require you to choose their state.
        Pros for choosing “any state” is that NSW can invite you to apply.

  • sanket August 2, 2016, 4:33 pm | Link

    Hii bob , i am sanket . I have applied for eoi for queensland where my occupation is in csol list so my queation is that how much time qld takes to invite ????
    Hope for ur positive reply…

  • Amrita August 2, 2016, 11:26 am | Link

    Hi Bob
    I have filed my EOI with 65 points on 29 July 2016 for internal audit. Profile. What are my chances of getting an invite for 189.

    Regards
    Amrita

    • Jaideep Sharma August 2, 2016, 3:14 pm | Link

      Hi Amrita !
      Can u plz suggest any consultant for me or u can give his/her contact no.
      Currently i am working in Muscat as a Planning Engineer but my hometown is Delhi.

      Thanks & Regards
      Jaideep

      • Amrita Khangura August 2, 2016, 3:33 pm | Link

        Sure, can you let me know your overall years of experience. I am dealing with Opulentues at the moment however I have heard Y Axis in Delhi is far better.

        • Jaideep Sharma August 2, 2016, 4:37 pm | Link

          First of all thanks for reply
          I have total 4 years and 2 months experience as a Planning engineer but out of which 2 years and 9 months in India .
          And I hope you will get an invitation soon.

          • Amrita Khangura August 2, 2016, 4:52 pm | Link

            Thanks 🙂 Okie. they will give you 5 points for experience then. Take PTE and try to score at least proficient so that you attain at least 60 points to be able to file an EOI.

          • Edison August 9, 2016, 9:45 pm | Link

            What occupation can a Planning Engineer nominate on the SOL?

            • Jaideep Sharma August 15, 2016, 1:50 pm | Link

              Hi Edison

              A Planning Engineer is basically a Civil Engineer ,
              So, I select Civil Engineer from SOL by the way what
              is your occupation.

  • Jun#29 August 1, 2016, 12:31 am | Link

    Hi piyush/bob can i need to ask something regards to my application. I received a nomination for NSW, for electrical linesworker morethan 18years experience, anyway im in the process of lodging the application of 190, to DIBP do u think how is the chance and possibility of this pr, will likely be successful.
    I have all the supporting documents and ielts, cert which only 6.0 in all/ section incl. the overall.
    And if once i made the payment will they refund if wasnt successful?

    Thanks

    • BobinOz August 2, 2016, 12:18 am | Link

      I couldn’t tell you whether your application would be successful or not, but as far as I know, there are no refunds if it is declined. If you have any concerns with your application, I would advise you to get help from a MARA registered migration agent. Good luck, Bob

  • Angel July 31, 2016, 2:28 pm | Link

    Hi Bob,

    My EOI got logged last March 2, 2016. ACS assesment got expired on on May 8 and new assesement came out in June 21. New ACS number was put on the EOI on July 7. Currently waiting for SS for new South wales under visa subclass 190 (skill assesment 263111).

    My score is 60 points (50+5). Question, will I able to get ITA anytime soon? Or will the chances are slim?

    Thank you.

  • Rajeev July 29, 2016, 10:25 am | Link

    Hi ,

    Already submitted EOI for 189+190 NSW last month.

    Also, qualify for 190 Victoria State Nomination so would it be good idea to submit separate EOI 190 Vic?
    Will there be any negative impact?
    In Victoria state nomination form, it’s asked whether I have applied to any other state so what to mention ?

    • Amrita August 2, 2016, 11:30 am | Link

      Hi Rajeev
      Which occupation have tou applied for.

      • Rajeev August 2, 2016, 2:04 pm | Link

        It’s for software engineer – 263131

        • Amrita Khangura August 2, 2016, 3:01 pm | Link

          In case you have 65 points and above then you hold a good chance for getting the EOI. Though I doubt about the state sponsorship in Victoria. Not sure whether for this profession they offer. Just touch based with my consultant.

          I am also awaiting an invitation have 65 points for 189. Internal Auditor Profile. Fingers crossed. Any clue when is the next invitation round scheduled ?

  • Emma July 27, 2016, 10:34 pm | Link

    Hi Bob, firstly just WOW! This is a hugely informative site, so congratulations!
    We are looking at coming over to Brisbane, me, husband and 4 children….a little bit excited. My husband needs to have a skills assessment test and i’m sure I’ve missed the link or something but i can’t seem to find out where this needs to be done. Could someone please point me in the right direction…..i seem to be going round in circles!
    Thanks in advance.

    • BobinOz July 28, 2016, 11:43 pm | Link

      Thanks Emma, glad you like.

      As I understand it, and I’m not really the person to ask because this is more like MARA migration agent territory, I think skills assessments performed by the relevant body for the skill in question.

      So there isn’t one place to go for a skills assessment, your husband needs to find the relevant authority or body that performs the skills assessments for whatever it is that he does. So, for example, if you’re husband was a doctor it would probably be the Australian Medical Association (AMA).

      Hopefully that information will help you search in the right places. Good luck, Bob

      • Emma July 28, 2016, 11:58 pm | Link

        Thanks Bob for your quick reply!
        I understand that they vary depending upon the profession, but, do they take place in Oz or the country where your’e living at the time of application?
        I’m currently in discussion with Simon about a few things and so far can throughly recommend his service! Very speedy in his replies. I’m sure he will inform us of this as and when required along the visa application process.
        Thanks.

        • BobinOz July 29, 2016, 12:13 am | Link

          No, you’re husband won’t need to come to Australia for the skills assessment, I’m pretty sure they are all done remotely. I didn’t realise you had Simon helping you, but that’s good news, he will definitely be able to explain how this all works when the time comes and let you know who the relevant assessment body is.

          Hang on in there, it will all work out in the end I’m sure 🙂

  • Jaideep Sharma July 27, 2016, 10:06 pm | Link

    Can anyone tell me the procedure of skill assessment and how much time & cost it will take.
    And what are the requirements for it.

  • Jaspreet Kaur July 27, 2016, 8:05 pm | Link

    I have already cleared the assessment part and received a positive response.Now i have to file EOI. Are there chances to have state nomination and employment in australia. I am working has an Assistant Professor In MBA College

    • Maninder July 31, 2016, 3:47 pm | Link

      Hi Jaspreet,
      are your occupation coming in university lecturer? and do you have confirmation is it open in any regional level! before EOI WELTS 7 band is mandate in each module.

      WR
      Maninder

    • CHRIST FALA MIKWARI August 7, 2016, 7:46 am | Link

      Just to confirm the resulting?
      Passport number 0P 0028276

      • CHRIST FALA MIKWARI August 15, 2016, 1:49 am | Link

        Yes I confirm this passport number is correct is my passport number
        Help me for visa
        I m very happy to see your message in my Email ?
        I’m employee Governmental EOI ?
        Now Employee Oracle company, location Western Australia, Perth, job number 16000PLP…..
        I confirm again my passport number: OP 0028276
        I m waiting for visa 190, 189, 489…. Thanks

        • BobinOz August 15, 2016, 6:32 pm | Link

          Why do you keep posting your passport number online here? What exactly do you think we are going to do with it?

  • CC July 24, 2016, 10:27 pm | Link

    Hi,

    Can anyone advise what’s the difference between Point Test Advice and Skill Assessment with VETASSESS?

    I’ve already obtained a skill employment assessment for my nominated occupation. Then I have another 4-month experience which should be closely related my nominated occupation and should be assessed by VETASSESS according to SOL. In that case, I am confused whether I should apply for skill assessment or point test advice with VETASSESS.

    Thank you!!

    Fiona

    • Avi July 30, 2016, 9:04 pm | Link

      Points test advice will help you and the visa authority to confirm your experience years exactly. And thus the points will be counted as per their advice. For example, you have started working as an accountant assistant without completion of your qualification, then the Points test advice will be the final say.

      • CC August 5, 2016, 9:42 pm | Link

        Hi Avi,
        Thank you so much!!

        Just one more question, as I can’t understand VETASSESS website well. Do they consider experience less than 6 months for point test advice?

  • Jaideep Sharma July 19, 2016, 10:55 pm | Link

    Hiee Bob !

    Many Greetings , I sincerely thank you very much for this info.
    I can ‘t liquidate for this help.

    Your follower
    Jai

    • BobinOz July 20, 2016, 11:18 pm | Link

      Me neither 🙂 Glad you like it, all the best, Bob

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