10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to Australia

by BobinOz on July 1, 2011

in Australia's Bad Things

As you saw from Wednesday’s post, the OECD has found Australia the best country in the world to live in. But that is not an opinion shared by everybody.

For some time I have been working on a post called ’10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to Australia’. When I say “working on”, what I mean is I have had the idea, created a notepad with the title and every now and then, when I think of a reason, I add it to the list.

In three years, this is as far as I have got…..

1. Your favourite hobby is history/archaeology.
2. You are allergic to golden sandy beaches.

That’s it!

But where I have struggled with this, a guy called Fred has had no problems in compiling his list. Fred contacted me recently via my YouTube channel with a request for me to allow his video as a “video response” to one of my videos.

I emailed Fred back and told him what I would really like to do is a feature post about his blog, even though I did not agree with a single thing on his website. I also explained I would very likely be taking the Mickey out of what he has said and asked if he was okay with that. I also mentioned that I could not work out whether his website was serious or a complete joke.

Fred replied he was happy for me to go ahead and also said “My website is just a tool to make prospective migrants know some facts before making their mind. I am just trying to do good here. Don’t forget that I mentioned that I have met some good people in Oz as well. To me the main problem was nature, not people. So the only fix was to leave. Wish you a good life in Oz.”

So, he is up for it and, apparently, his website is serious. So let us get stuck in.

On occasions  I have been accused of looking at Australia with rose tinted glasses. I have never really understood that idiom, but I do know it means I only (apparently) see the best side of this country.

Well, here is Fred with his view which is surely the worst side.

10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to Australia

What I am going to do here is run through each of Fred’s 10 points, summarise them in my own words and give you one short Fred quote from it. But to get the full flavour of Fred’s wonderful website, you really should visit it for yourself and read it all.

It’s only a one-page website and will take you less than 5 minutes and that includes pauses for laughter. Here goes…

1- UV Radiation

Apparently, to protect ourselves from these dangers, those of us here in Australia have to avoid the sun, wear long sleeves and trousers, big hats, slap on the sunscreen every couple of hours and wear dark glasses.

Mooloolaba Sun AvoidanceWell, I’m not buying that one.

It is not just us people who suffer either, according to Fred “Trees look sad.”

2- Pests

Cockroaches, snakes, rats and spiders are mentioned here and Fred feels that not even pest control can stop “the spider from building its home so quickly every day. They can’t stop it from checking your mail…”

Spiders checking my mail?

3- People

Fred’s general opinion of Australian people isn’t good. A top contender for best quote in this section was where he mentions the likelihood of being attacked with glass or something. But my favourite sentence of them all was the one just after he mentions having met some highly educated people who he thought were normal. He continues “However, the rest of them are divided into old people and young people. Old people are OK because they can’t fight!”

4- Cost of Life

Fred thinks Australia is expensive. He has some ideas why this is and explains it with this…. “One reason behind it is that the government pays for babies.”

5- Location

It is not just Australia is a long way away from so many other countries, but even getting about within Australia is tough because there are “not enough gas stations either.”

6- Health Care

sickOur health care system is funny and dental costs crazy. Waiting times are too long; expect to wait all night at ER. And, according to Fred, “Some small service centers are at par with developing countries.”

7- Roads

Bad, bad, bad roads! Roundabouts everywhere, even on the highways. You must visit his website if only to find out about our terrible roads. As he says “I have seen better roads in many places except Srilanka!”

8- Education

Universities are public and everyone studies for free, apparently. But the bad news is they are not safe and, according to Fred, you will probably be raped at night. Which leads me to my favourite quote from this one. “Of course there is no punishment or law.”

9- Housing

aussie houseBad, bad, bad housing! Houses are old and badly maintained because people want to spend their money on drink instead. But that is not the real problem with houses. No. There is a government conspiracy. According to Fred “Actually the government forbids new buildings so as to keep the price high, but the quality drops!”

There is a lot more information on Fred’s site about the housing, and I know I have already said you must visit his website if only to find out about the terrible roads. But now I am thinking, maybe you should only visit his website to find out about the terrible housing.

Hey! Why not visit his website to find out about both?

10- Crime

In Australia, teenagers attack old people all the time. It is a risk to go out at night. These teenagers get money directly from the government. And if you think all that sounds horrific enough, as Fred says, “There is no arrest, no law enforcement, nothing!”


So there you have it. 10 reasons why not to move to Australia according to Fred. I don’t agree with any of it. Having said that, I think Fred’s site is as funny as any I’ve seen. So I thank him for making me laugh.

But this really is just a very brief overview of his 10 reasons; Fred puts it so much better than I do. I highly recommend you pop over to his website and take a few minutes to read and digest it all.

Fred also gives a bonus 11th reason which I won’t reveal here. So why not go to go to NotAustralia?


No point in clicking that link anymore, Freds website was taken down by the hosts. Last time I was able to click through, I saw the following message…

“We’re sorry, this site is frozen.
If you are the site owner, please contact our abuse team regarding the status of your website.”

Seems we weren’t the only ones who found Freds opinions offensive :-)

Here’s his video:

No it isn’t.

Update 2: Fred removed his video from YouTube and explained why in a comment on this very page. You can see that comment somewhere below, a long long way below, underneath all the other yummy comments. Look for one by Fred sometime in June 2014.

Now, for those of you who can’t sleep at night worrying what that 11th bonus reason was, I’m going to reprint it here.

From the now taken down Not Australia website, this sums it all up really…

11- Bonus reason!

Most of Australia is dry and there are a lot of bush fires and house fires. An additional reason is the abnormally high intensity of sun radiation which makes this risk even bigger. Sandstorms come from the desert as well.

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{ 457 comments… read them below or add one }

Rupert July 2, 2011 at 7:20 pm

Bob – this guy is certifiable.

His English is of pre-school level and the content of his so-called website is beyond a joke – it is actually quite sad.

Anyway, this moron doesn’t deserve any more of my energy or time, so I’m off to throw glass at some drunk teenagers… that’ll learn ’em!


Shelly July 5, 2013 at 9:44 am

Australia is a drunk. Thats all.


Zach February 28, 2014 at 9:11 am

I currently live in Australia, there are places that i would not dare go, due to not knowing the ways to get there! but not all of Australia is described in these top 10 issues.. I have seen more violence in states of the US and other countries compared to Australia. I currently live in Surfers Paradise which is on the eastern side of Australia. Your more likely to get attacked/robbed in the US before Australia.

Im looking at moving to California next, but have been told by so many people that its a dirty place to live.. I’m ignoring other peoples opinions and will experience it myself..

Im Italian/Irish, I love to eat and drink.. Australia is a great place, I do agree that they like to drink, but i know some people here that do not “work to live” considering the minimum wage is twice that of America.

So my end rant would be.. Experience it yourself..


BobinOz March 1, 2014 at 10:10 pm

And just to put that comment into perspective, Surfers Paradise has a reputation for high crime here in Australia; relative to Australia, maybe it has, but it’s pretty safe compared with some other countries.

Thanks for your contribution Zach.


Zach March 2, 2014 at 9:13 pm


Every Country/State has a reputation for “high crime”.. Surfers Paradise is the City of the Gold Coast the same as any other city in any other Country/State.. Look in the news today… “Death toll mounts after fatal knife attack in Chinese train station”.. this crazy stuff would never happen in Australia..

Again.. Australia isn’t the Middle east or any other Country at war..


Pitter March 29, 2014 at 3:45 pm


California is beautiful. Especially, Malibu, Ventura and Ojai valleys at LA are just incredible places. Again, it depends on what exactly you are looking for enjoyment, but yeah as you said, there is crime rate in LA or SFO too.. so be it.. because every country has it. I am from India, I live in USA, but am planning to move to Australia. I am just waiting to experience it :)


Lib March 26, 2014 at 5:08 pm

I live in California and I want to move to Australia,hence how I landed on this article.
Anyway California is lovely you will enjoy it and I suggest you check it out for yourself. Its like any place some areas are ok, while others are questionable.
I have never been to Straya but I hope to be in Melbourne! Gold Coast, Bondi Beach, Perth! What a lovely country you have!


James June 17, 2014 at 4:51 pm

Don’t listen to stupid blogs written by non Aussie people listen to an Australian person because they live there not holiday,if you read my comment that’s my review saying why Australia is good.


Zack March 6, 2015 at 11:24 pm

You’ll love it mate, I was born here an no we don’t usually call them shrimp their known as prawns… Shrimp is actually a usa term…
And even then we don’t often bbq them usually more likely snags or minute steaks, we didn’t come from rich cane field slave drivers…. We came from convicts and cops


Tamara May 31, 2015 at 4:36 am

my name is Tamara. i’m a high school student and i’m hopefully going to move to Australia in a month or so. I’m deeply in love with Australia but I have a few regards and they are all to do with Insects and Snakes. I have a terrible fear of Spiders and Snakes and bugs in general I heard that there are alot of bugs I just wanted to know if that were true or not since you’ve lived in Australia all your life. Ofcourse, I don’t believe everything that people say since I love the country and the fact that these bugs are there doesn’t change the fact that I want to go but at the same time I still want to be sure that they are alot there since it is a fear of mine.


Mabel May 4, 2014 at 6:14 am

Australia is amazing! Why do you think this country is terrible I have lived in Australia my whole life and I have never seen anything bad about it!


BobinOz May 5, 2014 at 6:32 pm

Who are you asking your question to Mabel? Most of us here love Australia as well, and if it’s Fred you’re asking, we’ve not seen much of him around here.


Yukina December 28, 2014 at 6:36 pm

I live inn Australia…and none of that shit that was mentioned actually happens. I hate how ppl make things up when they don’t even know what it is actually like.


Tarun Gupta February 1, 2015 at 11:08 pm

Hi everyone, even in shocked about freds views. Australia is the 5th best continent in the world with all the up class amenities.

Can anyone help me as I’m coming to australia on a permanent residency and would be looking to start my life from south australia.

Please share your views on the work opportunities, life style, climate conditions, night life, about people.



BobinOz February 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm

Hi Tarun

I have plenty of posts and pages on the things you would like to know about, in fact there are over a 1000 pages on this website, have a good look around and you will find all the information you need.

Good luck, Bob


Aussie March 3, 2015 at 8:44 pm

Excuse me? Look at America, and other countries!!! I don’t even drink nor does my pop. The rest of my family have maybe a light beer or a wine every now and then.


Hector July 3, 2011 at 12:12 am

Hello Bob

Glad to see you don’t agree with him, else is not good news.

As Rupert said, I don’t trust about what Fred said




Gordon July 3, 2011 at 10:15 pm

He forgot to mention the volcanoes , the tornados , the dropbears , the bogans , the Yowies , the ever present peril of New Zealand winning the footy !

In his defence , dental IS expensive , he got that right.


Kirimi December 28, 2014 at 6:41 pm

I live in Australia. And I’ve never had any of that happen to me. And I’ve been here my whole life. Stop making things up and actually research, DUMBASS!


Nikki March 9, 2015 at 10:42 pm

Hi Kirimi, Gordon wasn’t actually saying Auz has those things, he was just making a joke. And Gordon the dental is brutal back home ahah man i miss the sunshine.


Jessy April 21, 2015 at 10:32 am

There’s no such thing as tornadoes in Australia. We get cyclones but nothing as bad as a tornado.


Jessy April 21, 2015 at 10:36 am

There’s no such thing as tornadoes in Australia. We get cyclones but nothing as bad as a tornado. And it’s rugby where the kiwis always win. Footy is AFL, (Australian football league) name kinda says it all, it’s only aussies


BobinOz July 4, 2011 at 2:05 pm

Well I did send a link to this post over to Fred, also inviting him to join in on this conversation. Today I got a reply from him which said “I have checked it out and thank you for the nice presentation. Anytime I have time I will pop into your discussions!”

I think it would be nice to have him join in. He seems harmless enough, but has obviously had a very bad experience here in Australia.

Personally, I’m not sure if he is certifiable or a comic genius. You did all get a laugh from reading his ideas didn’t you?


Brooke, WhyGo Australia July 5, 2011 at 3:43 pm

Look, I love Oz and all, but you know what… he’s right on a few of those points. Yeah, the skin cancer, the cost of living and being so far away from the rest of the world are all big in my book… but they haven’t tipped the scales just yet.


BobinOz July 7, 2011 at 2:07 pm

You didn’t think there was any exaggeration then :-)


Rupert July 7, 2011 at 8:08 pm

Brooke, getting skin cancer is about as likely as get any other form of cancer. Cancer just happens to be a tragic part of life wherever you live.

Yes Sydney is expensive, but more so than London? With the current exchange rates, yes. But with the earning potential in Australia, I think the cost of living is pretty relative to other advanced First World nations.

Being far away from the rest of the world? Well if you pop over to Paris or Amsterdam for weekend breaks regularly, then yes, of course you’re right, but truthfully, who really does that? Personally I’d like to get away from the rest of the world for a while and Australia seems to fit the bill.

One thing that Bob will be able to help with… I’ve heard the build quality of houses can be hit and miss and that the smart money is on building your own house to your own spec. It can be much, much cheaper (if you can afford the land in the first place), and much more satisfying.

What say you Bobster?


BobinOz July 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm

One more thing about cancer; a friend of mine was round last night and for some reason we started talking about it. He has been checked for skin cancer in both England and here in Australia. In his view, the people who checked him over in England were a bit “hit and miss” as he put it, whereas he felt the Australians were very thorough, checking each and every centimetre of his body with a microscope and at times applying special liquids.

So whilst chances of getting it here might be higher, treatment may well be better too.

As for building a house on a plot of land, I’m not sure if it’s a big money saver, but you do get to choose your builder and house plans. Just like in England, here we have both bulk builders and prestige builders. Land prices vary a good deal, as you can imagine. But around here, expect to pay at least $200,000 and then you can probably build a decent four bedroom single-storey house with double garage starting at about $160,000.

If that were the end of it, it would be a cheap house. But it isn’t. Once you’ve bought the land, you have to supply services to it, water, electricity and telephony, then sewerage and put the driveway over the top of it. You have to pay “contributions to council infrastructure” often referred to as head works. These fees can be up to $40,000 for a house. Depending on your plot, choice of house and cost of adding these services, you will now probably looking at around $480,000 all in.

Well, there are plenty of houses for sale around here for that money. But here, Australians put a premium on new houses, in as much as a new house is always preferred over a “second-hand” house. To me, that didn’t appear to be the case so much in England.

All this is just my opinion, of course, not hard fact and very much based on loose figures.


Benji October 8, 2013 at 3:56 pm

Even in some of the wastelands in the USA, $200,000 for a four bedroom is starting to become rare! I work nearly 100 hours a week, not by choice, and all my work is going offshore….

Maybe it’s time for me to go offshore with my degree to Oz….You got me hooked bob..


BobinOz October 9, 2013 at 2:36 pm

Houses aren’t cheap here either, but wages are considerably higher which makes a fair difference. 100 hours a week, man that’s way too many.


Victoria July 21, 2011 at 11:13 pm

I am an Aussie who has been living in London for 2.5 years. Since moving here I have been robbed of my deposits from landlords (£2500) because the UK has no law in place to protect tenants (well one that is new and changes to suit each case), housing in London is appalling and a rip off plus having to live with so many people to cut the costs, my husband and I were attacked by 5 masked men in our home who stole his wedding ring right after they bashed him, not made one friend who I can say I trust and as for free medical or the NHS – absolute joke having to wait up to 3 weeks to get an appointment to see a GP. Why am I still here – because of work commitments but I am 100% sure that Australia is by far the better country to live in. Going home this year 2011 for good and will never be back to this ruined place – funny how every British born person you meet bangs on how crap it is here and if they could they would leave……WHATEVER FRED


BobinOz July 22, 2011 at 9:46 pm

I am so sorry that the people from my homeland have treated you so appallingly. But not surprised, there are some very dodgy areas in London. Where abouts are you?

And the NHS was once the envy of the rest of the world, I’m not so sure these days. Anyway, it sounds like you’ll be back in Australia sometime soon, probably as soon as you can. I don’t blame you, but on the other hand, I shan’t be returning to England, that’s for sure.


Gavin September 11, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Victoria, you must understand that england is a diverse country. You can not discuss London as an example of England, I can assure you it is very very different to living on the beach in Cornwall or in a lesser populated and far cheaper, friendlier city. There are about 60 cities in the UK to experience, many different by culture, buzz, price, demographic etc!

This judging England by London is very popular in Australia, in fact, most countries get judged by their capital cities, is this an urban Australian syndrome? or the fact that there just isn’t as much difference between Australians of different Australian cities maybe.


Martin June 13, 2013 at 10:40 am

Please open your eyes and don’t bring holiday destinations into this. If you look cu general life as a family, working, housing etc. Then Australia leaves England in the gutter. Probably as much as 70% of England needs knocking down and rebuilding. Our motorway infrastructure is far from adequate, our road quality is pathetic considering the road tax and fuel costs. I am from England and can gladly say i am leaving this rising damp rotten country for Australia permanently. Not bitter but will be glad to see the back of it.


Connie September 19, 2014 at 11:36 am

well you will have a new look at Aussie later, a lot of people there had make Aus there home for some years, and maybe try to run a business here, are getting out of Australia. small as big business. the insurance, is killing any chance to make a living. after 12 years, we like, many others want to get out, if we can sell our very successful business. Australia is far more suing hungry, and the law will always be on the wrong side, why, maybe … we got so many solicitor and they all in it for the money. Australia is expensive to live in. Most aussie had never being overseas but they still believe it is THE LUCKY COUNTRY. the media telling them all the time. Get information from people from Europe not Asia , India, or so. ps, sorry my bad writing english.


BobinOz September 22, 2014 at 7:11 pm

That’s a very strange view you have Australia there Connie, very strange indeed.


Beatrice Chui December 28, 2014 at 6:56 pm

Well at least we’re not getting attacked by bombs. Btw not many ppl start a business. And unlike many other countries; even the US and UK, etc.; we don’t have much air pollution compared to them.


louisa klimentos February 11, 2015 at 7:47 am

Connie is so wrong about most Aussies never travelled overseas.So many have travelled to South East Asia ,South pacific islands ,the USA and Europe .I think as a whole what Connie is saying in general has maybe some truth in it but I think what she is saying is ver exagerrated.


Zack March 7, 2015 at 8:31 am

Shut up her husband got bashed and robbed in their own home, that’s never happened to me here, probably cos England is massively overpopulated, in land mass compared to population… Elngland would fit in the state Victoria and bounce around, yet the population is somethimg like six times larger then the whole pop of Australia… Get it? We have freedom, hesitant might seem expensive to live here but we pay for those Liberties and freedoms!
I am proud to be australia!


Lilly April 12, 2012 at 9:25 pm

What a load of crap!


BobinOz April 13, 2012 at 12:58 am

Maybe it is Lilly, but what exactly? Can you be more precise?


Fausto May 25, 2012 at 8:29 pm

I don’t know where this idiot get all that information from.
95% is bull.


BobinOz May 25, 2012 at 9:19 pm

You are not the only one to think so Fausto, his website has been taken down by the company that hosted it and he has been invited to contact the “abuse team” to talk about it.


Fausto May 26, 2012 at 12:17 am



Josh June 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm

Australians are very good at self promotion and tend to be self satisfied. They are desperate to be seen to be the best.

The way the indigenous people have been treated (and are treated) is a disgrace. Until that is rectified Australia has nothing to be satisfied about.


BobinOz June 4, 2012 at 12:22 am

And what satisfies you Josh? Pigeon holing entire nations?

Please do tell me which country you live in and I’ll see if I can come up with four ridiculous sentences to sum up everybody from your part of the world.


Rupert June 4, 2012 at 7:16 am

Nicely said Bob – I couldn’t agree more.

PS Just landed in Sydney to begin the adventure. We pick up the cats on Saturday (and I’ll pay your misses as soon as I have internet banking!)

Woohoo :-)


BobinOz June 4, 2012 at 6:37 pm

Congratulations Rupert and welcome to Sydney. I hope you all, including your cats, settle in quickly. Let me know what you think of it when you get the chance. Cheers!


ozkie June 29, 2014 at 3:37 am

im part aboriginal i was born and raised in Australia and i moved to the states i have seen alot you think the natives of australia r treated bad yes they could be treated better but sometimes it is by choice they could get themselves better education which is free to them like i got but alot of them dont care about education they rather drink booze u should see how the native indians in the USA r treated here its a total joke. australian aboriginals r treated alot better.


BobinOz June 29, 2014 at 10:12 pm

Hi ozkie

Australia and Australians often get an ear bashing from outsiders (some from the USA as well) quick to judge our treatment of aboriginals, so it’s good to hear your thoughts considering your background.


Josh June 4, 2012 at 12:41 pm

I note Bob that you don’t disagree with my views – rather you try to deflect the argument to where I come from.

Reminder: this blog (which you established) is about Australia (and this page is about why not to live in Australia).

If you need some help, here’s a start: the indigenous were hunted like animals. They were not counted on the census nor could they vote until the second half of last century. Until the High Court Mabo decision of 1992 white Australia did not recognise that the Indigenous people had any lawful entitlement over land (a little strange given they have occupied the continent for thousands of years). And more generally – the 2005 Cronulla riots – most likely an extension of the sentiment shown towards the indigenous people.

Stay on message Bob.


BobinOz June 4, 2012 at 6:40 pm

I did stay on message Josh, your message. I wasn’t trying to deflect the argument either, I was just showing the stupidity of your comments by asking a rhetorical question.

This post, in case you didn’t realise, is about an guy called Fred who has made a lot of derogatory comments about Australia and Australians. Then you come along and make more derogatory comments about Australians.

Since when have Australians been “good at self-promotion and tend to be self-satisfied’ and since when have they been “desperate to be seen as the best”? Since you decided it in your head, I suspect.

This post is not about the plight of Australia’s indigenous people; nobody mentioned them until you came along.

You are the one who should stay on subject.


Josh June 4, 2012 at 8:27 pm

The fact that you fail to mention the indigenous people’s history and current plight says a lot (BTW these are the people you refer to as “them”). These people have the oldest uninterrupted culture in the world – but silly me, how could this possibly compete with such other things as having “nicer” beaches than the U.K?

I love how websites like choose to air brush situations – you would think Australia was Nirvana when clearly no country is.

There is more to life than sunshine and barbies (and by the way, where I live has more sunshine hours and hotter summers than Brisbane.)

Regarding Australia and self promotion and the like – since you asked, here’s a few examples:

1. The flotilla down the Thames for the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee was supposed to include a number of boats full of “Aussie” life guards – all being the “closest” to the Queen (that’s if you believe the media in “OZ”). A load of crock that proved to be.

2. In 1984 Australia could not stomach being “beaten” by NZ at the Olympics so it established the Australian Institute of sport.

3. In Dec last year when NZ won the final cricket test against Australia in Hobart the team and the country’s rhetoric was offensive towards NZ’s team to say the least. Clarke (“Pup”) could not bring himself to even mention NZ’s success during the after match speeches.

4. Wayne Swan (“the World’s best Treasure” – yeah right) believes a recent report from the OECD proves that Australia’s economy is the envy of the west (what he fails to mention is that this report has a number of assumptions that if not realised are likely to wipe the smile off his face).

5. As you may know (but then again not) the track “Somebody that I used to Know” is an international hit. It’s sung by Gotre who was actually born in Belgium but lives in Australia – the Australians tend to forget about the Belgium link. Moreover, Kimbra, the young woman who accompanies Gotre (and without whom the song would be a shadow of itself) is barely mentioned in Australia – perhaps that’s because she is a New Zealander?)

OMG – I detect a degree of self satisfaction!


BobinOz June 5, 2012 at 1:05 am

The funny thing is Josh, this is my blog, and if I want to talk about beaches, then I talk about beaches. If I decide to talk about indigenous people, then that’s what I’ll talk about. You don’t get to decide for me. That’s the way it goes.

If you really do want to decide what gets talked about, then you would need to start your own blog.

Maybe you could call your blog “Strange thoughts that pop into my head by Josh, the (I’m taking a wild guess here) New Zealander who now (according to the geological location embedded in your email communication, surely you knew about that?) lives in Perth although he hates Australians, Australia, and doesn’t think much of beaches, barbecues or sunshine.

Now, you’ve wound me up and I have wound you up. It’s a draw. If you want to continue commenting on my blog, stay on subject. The subject is not indigenous people, it’s not Wayne Swan, it’s not the Queen’s Jubilee nor is it anything to do with sport.

My blog will not be a platform for your rants, please bear that in mind should you decide to comment again.


Marjorie July 25, 2014 at 3:34 pm

Having read all the comments up to this point, I find this response fantastic Bob! It was entertaining to read the banter between you and Josh…however, I am glad that it came to an end…or did it? (I may have peeked ahead and saw that he commented again!) Anyway, thanks for this funny post – I came across your blog after day-dreaming about finding meaningful work and moving to Australia. I appreciate your sense of humor – thank you!


BobinOz July 25, 2014 at 10:24 pm

Good Lord Marjorie, no, Josh was not finished, I can’t remember how much longer it went on, but there’s certainly another comment two or three below this one.

Hope your daydreaming about Australia becomes reality soon.

Cheers, Bob


Kieran September 24, 2012 at 9:23 am

What are you on about? Do you think any that most Australians sit around and ignore the aboriginal plight whenever it comes up and just go watch footy or something?
It’s easy to act righteous when you’re behind a computer.

Oh no, a few famous people made you feel about living in NZ, you’re right, Australia’s a hell-hole.

(Kimbra’s incredibly popular here dude, she played a full solo set at the Australian National University for orientation week before touring. You’re an idiot).


Zack March 7, 2015 at 8:34 am

Your the only one rascist enough to refer to aboriginal peoples the m for reasons other then to shorten sentences for literature!


Joshua September 29, 2014 at 7:47 am


You fail to realize that we actually allowed the Indigenous Australians to vote at the start of the 20th century, but there were other laws that did not make it seem that way. We did have a referendum in 1967 that also now classed the Indigenous Australians as citizens, and yes they had a right to have land. Not only that, but the 2005 Cronulla riots had nothing to do with our Indigenous Australians – the riots were started by Lebanese tourists and Lebanese Australians who were “jostling elderly patrons, abused Australian families, and threatening to ‘rape Aussie sluts’ for wearing bikinis.”

Yes they may have been hunted like animals in the past – The Stolen Generations as an example, but that is very different from the environment that Australia has today. Just remember what you are posting your message on… WiFi and Internet. Didn’t CSIRO invent WiFi? Guess what? They’re Australians.

Cronulla Riots:


Little known fact: CSIRO are the only website in the world that contains the country it came from without a different top level domain (TLD). Some TLDs include – .com .org .uk .us .ru .co and .biz


Kiera June 5, 2012 at 4:19 pm

Huntsman spiders always live in my letter box. Once we even had a green tree frog living in it. ;D


BobinOz June 6, 2012 at 12:33 am

Maybe he’s expecting a letter? Not the spider, that would be ridiculous. The green tree frog.


Josh June 5, 2012 at 4:26 pm

Dear Bob,

It’s good to know that so long as there is a “nice” beach handy and sunshine nothing else matters in life. I’m sure those in peril will be reassured, like the poor Syrians for instance – the key to their plight has a simple answer.

Perhaps your work is complete Bob?

BTW, you will note that I said in my previous comment that NO [emphasis added] country is Nirvana and I detect self-satisfaction by me. I think this is material (important) in terms of how you might wish to interpret my comments.


BobinOz June 6, 2012 at 12:37 am

I’m hoping your work is complete Josh. Syria? Whatever next? Nothing would be nice.


Barney January 31, 2013 at 1:25 am

Um Josh did you google that? Because most of what you are saying isn’t 100% right. Maybe you should come over and see for yourself what’s it’s like to live here. It seems to me that you think we just drink and have BBQ’s all the time, well we do you want to know why? It’s called relaxing after a hard days work. I don’t know why you are so up tight about everything. To have a go at us for how the aboriginals were treated, it may of escapes your knowledge that it was not any Australian but the European’s and Americans that moved here. You should of read about that on google. And FYI the aboriginals get treated pretty blood good these days. So I will be looking for your apology when I’m next on here.


BobinOz January 31, 2013 at 8:32 pm

Good luck with that Barney, I think you’ll be waiting quite some time, not sure Josh is the apologising kind of guy :-)




Zack russell March 6, 2015 at 11:27 pm

Comparing australia to Syria? Mate don’t come here, we don’t want you here.Haha America down to a T.


tanya June 15, 2012 at 12:26 am

im an australian and i moved to america over 7 years ago and i can tell u australia is so much better place to live fred wes saying crime with teens r high there lol in america there r more serial killers and gang violence here than anywhere in the world pretty sad. 2 nd atleast australia have socialized health care if your not rich here and cant afford to c a doc then ur s**t out of luck americans dont really care about their hard working ppl. couple things i do agree with him is paying teens to have babies we really need to stop that babies having babies is a problem yes bug problems is bad there but so is it here though spiders r alot bigger there i agree bit it doesnt matter where u r u are never 3 feet from a spider of some kind in ur whole life anyway. dental care is high but so is it here housing prises r high but like i said again its just like here. ppl in australia


tanya June 15, 2012 at 12:51 am

ive noticed that ppl in australia r more free yes australia has their problems but the good over weighs the bad since ive been here i have never got my deposit back from the houses i have rented from and i clean the house better than i moved in. i use to leave my house unlocked at night when i lived in australia but here there is no way i would do that. i feel safer walking through a park at night than i during the day here. and the roads yes some r bad but just like anywhere roads can be bad but that doesnt make australia a bad place to live lol ive noticed australia is much cleaner than here the first day i arrived here i seen this woman throw out a trash bag out of her 2 story window onto the road diapers fell out of the bag it was so nasty i was horrified when i saw that. atleast u can go fishing without having to get a licence there everything in america cost money and also the amount of homeless ppl here is out of control atleast it isnt as bad in australia and atleast the government is paying ppl to further their education ur out of luck here


BobinOz June 17, 2012 at 8:17 pm

Thanks Tanya, sounds like you are giving the thumbs up to Australia over the USA. Incidentally, I’ve heard a few people mention that about house rental deposits, I think it’s a sad trick of some of the rental agencies to try and keep your deposit even if you do leave the house clean and spotless.

I say to you and everybody, complain and fight it. And don’t stop until you get your money back.


Kat June 17, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Bob, I stumbled across your website this weekend and I have to say, it’s kept me highly amused for a good part of the weekend. Great site – thanks! :)


BobinOz June 17, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Thanks Kat, glad to hear I have put a smile on your face this weekend.


Nina June 19, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Dear bob,

Thank you for the blogs. Found loads of info which is helpful as I was contemplating on moving to Australia. ( perhaps somewhere not too busy like Robina. Had a wonderful time in Sydney and gold coast a few years back …now looking at some real estate websites…

Thanks bob ( and all the contributors)

Nina nordin


BobinOz June 20, 2012 at 1:08 pm

Glad to have been of help Nina! Happy househunting :-)


Zack March 6, 2015 at 11:30 pm

Robina is one of the biggest shopping hubs of the Gold Coast so wouldn’t say not too busy maybe try the hunter valley nsw nice quiet spot


Anil kumar T.M June 21, 2012 at 1:24 pm


My name in Anil, from Bangalore (India) wanted to move to Australia, i have got through IELTS Exam and wanted to know what is the proceedure to get a job in Accounts and finance field.

Also wanted to know how much cash i should take initially for 3 months expenditure including Food and accommodation charges.

It will be great if i come to know any consultancy number where they help us to recruit through overseas.

Thanks in advance for your time and support.

Anil kumar T.M
+91 9945194579


BobinOz June 22, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Check out the links here, Migration Advice, lots of good information via the links.


Charli July 20, 2012 at 2:49 pm

Seriously? Does he even live in Australia?
1. Um not everywhere is sunny. I live in Melbourne and man it doesn’t get very sunny, the weather is so unpredictable but not hot at all. However in summer it can, but places like Darwin and Sydney get hotter than down South.
As for the covering up bit? What?? You just put sunscreen on and a hat and you’ll be fine!
2. Doesn’t everywhere have pests like those? I mean we don’t encounter them that often at all.
3.Fighting? That isn’t a big problem at all.
4. It isn’t that expensive, well not if you have a job! I think the US costs more does it?
5. Gas stations? Obviously you haven’t been to Australia, we call them petrol stations. And there are plenty of them, unless you go central Australia in the outback.
6. I have to agree it is expensive for the dentist but the government gives everyone one free checkup each year to encourage people to. And yes waiting times are long but deal with it. There are alot of other people waiting too!
7. How are the roads bad??
8. Dude education isn’t free at uni. Most people can’t pay it at the time so they lay it throughout their life when they can repay the university. Public schools are free (I think) or very cheap at least. I go to a private school that isn’t very cheap though..
And of course there is law! Try riding on a bike with no helmet and see what happens. You may get fined a few hundred
9. Housing?? Some houses are top notch and others are government houses that aren’t that good. All the houses are different!
10. Crime? Get out of here dude, you need a life.

I don’t know why I bothered wasting my time to respond to that.


BobinOz July 20, 2012 at 10:36 pm

Well, if he does live in Australia, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have too many friends.

Thanks for taking the time to respond even though you don’t know why you bothered :-) I don’t think Fred knows how amusing he is and how much fun he has given us all.

Fred site, as I think I’ve never mentioned somewhere else in these comments, has now been taken down by the hosts. I can’t think why.

Cheers dude!


Jane April 22, 2015 at 12:59 am

Hello there,

I find that your comments are quite true.

Can you please contact me? I have more questions to ask.

Thank you very much,



BobinOz April 22, 2015 at 6:07 pm

Jane, you need to tell us who you are talking to and why you want them to contact you. I mean a precise reason, as in exactly what you want.


Phillip August 4, 2012 at 7:01 pm

Fred’s an idiot. I’m positive he hasn’t been to Australia.
Who cares how big Australia is, it’s not like my university is in New South Wales and my local GP is in Western Australia. He thinks everything’s scattered around the country.
But the biggest hint that he hasn’t been here even for a day, is that he says going to university is for free. I’m a uni student. You have the choice to not pay up front for uni and the government gives you a LOAN with no interest (although inflation does apply obviously) which you can pay back when your income hits a certain threshold. A nice system.
I also have not been raped or injured or abused at university. Again, this guy’s an idiot.
About the pests, again he mustn’t have been here, or else he would have noticed a large lack of pests upon arrival at any of the airports in the Australian cities, as well as when living or driving several hours out of these cities. So he’s seen Croc Dundee a few times on the TV…
Crime’s everywhere in the world but to say there’s no law enforcement.. an hour in any of the major cities and he would have been police walking around everywhere, even more so at night. We have courts, police, even water!
Houses… some are good, some aren’t. It’s like that I’m sure… in the ENTIRE WORLD!

Sun.. not enough. If you’re out every day at a beach during summer, well I guess you’re not seeing a lot of Australia, however even then, the amount of rainy days in summers in Melbourne are always increasing. Our last Christmas had a giant hail storm.

People are like anywhere else, there are arseholes and there are nice people. If anyone gives you the story on drunk and racist Australians, download and watch the recent documentary series “Dumb, Drunk and Racist” which took a bunch of people from India around Australia to see what would happen. I’m sure you can find it on Filestube or wherever. About 5 or 6 episodes I think.


Phillip August 4, 2012 at 7:05 pm

P.S About the health care system, it’s a neat system called Medicare. Not great but not bloody bad. Doesn’t cost me a cent to see a doctor, and medication is cheap if you’re a student, pensioner, and whatever other concession categories there are. Dental is cheap if you go to a community dentist but they do a bad job. Expensive if private dentist but great job.
If Fred was in Australia he’d know or would have at least heard about it.


BobinOz August 6, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Hi Philip

Interesting theory, you may well have a point! Maybe Fred is an armchair critic, maybe he did get all of his information from a Crocodile Dundee film or perhaps even from some early episodes of Skippy! Maybe he has never been to Australia at all.

If he has been here though, I’d love to know where he went and how long he stayed there, because he certainly does have a strange and twisted view of Australia.

Not twisted in his mind though, one of the things he said to me when I contacted him was “I am just trying to do good here.”

You’ve got to admit, that’s funny!


Super September 12, 2012 at 2:07 am

Dingoes ! you forgot to mention them Fredingo :)


BobinOz September 12, 2012 at 3:37 pm

That’ll be in his new website, 20 reasons NOT to move to Australia.

I can’t wait :-)


Johnny September 22, 2012 at 4:44 am

I live in Australia and am from the younger generation and I have shown this blog 2 hundreds of friends and sorry to put it bluntly but a lot of this is true to some degree.

UV – australia has one of the worst oz layers in the world and is the leading nation for skin cancer, that’s a fact and can’t be argued with even if you don’t like it.

Pests- we have a massive pest problem. Rabbits and foxes are devastating to the environment here as well as carp in our rivers, also spiders is a problem and yes the little buggers are often in the mail box.

People- this part is right and wrong, most Aussies are very friendly and lovely however there is no question that the young generation are obsessed with being hard and causing trouble especially after house parties to go and destroy property and quarrel with the cops. Ask in cop and they will tell you that today’s kids have the worst crime of any generation to date and they even just had a thing on today tonight about it.

Cost of life- not to bad but yea the baby bonus is just messed up, go to browns plains and similar and you will see more prams at the shopping centre than shopping trolleys and the age of the girls is disgusting!

Location- this is wrong as petrol stations are very where so not sure what he is on about with that????

Health care- again this is 2 parts. Yes dental here is one of the highest of any country in the world however our Medicare system is great and really does help and works well

Roads- roads are really good and looked after only bad thing is traffic!!! Get caught on the monash at the wrong time and you will be sorry……..!!!!!!

Education- have no idea what he is on about, UNI is top notch and very very very safe, all that rape stuff is not correct and total crap!!!!

Housing- not to bad at all but is expensive however every major city in the world is expensive in the cities as your paying to be in the middle of everything you need

Crime- unfortunelty crime is getting worse and very dramatically. However our crime Is more alon the lines of violent attacks by youths and theft


BobinOz September 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm

Yes Johnny, a lot of it is “true to some degree”. But a lot of what Fred said was wildly off the mark and quite ridiculous. It’s a shame, in a strange way, that his website was taken down, otherwise you could have seen for yourself how he presented his case.

Nobody is suggesting Australia is a perfect paradise, but to say things like houses are badly maintained because everyone prefers to spend their money on drink instead, just shows how stupid some of it was.


Richard September 26, 2012 at 5:54 am

What is this? Bad comments about my country? We’ll see about that…

UV Radiation? Fact is spending so much time under the sun makes our skins more defensive of it’s rays, so I can see why Australians like me think it’s fine, but tourists may find it bad.

Pests are everywhere. You can’t generalize Australia for being worse. Well you can, but you shouldn’t. I personally have never had an issue with pests. Do people not realize 95% of our population live in civilized cities and towns?

I’m not even sure how to respond to his opinions of Australian people. It makes little to no sense, so let’s just ignore it.

Indeed. The government pays for babies so that the mothers can stay home and raise their children as civilized and respectable human beings. The proof that it works; check out our %crime rates and our %employment rate. And those extra employed people pay taxes to make sure their children and their children’s children can continue receiving this benefit and grow civilized. Also, personally, cost of life isn’t even that bad. To me, it seems easier here than in America. A LOT easier.

Not enough gas stations? I think Fred enjoys the occasional recreational drug. This comment is the epitome of stupidity. Besides, who takes a daily vacation to Peru or what-have you.

Our health care is subsidized, if not completely covered by the government so that we can be a healthy nation. This is, of course, with the exception of private medical services. If you demand private consultation, then the public subsidization does not apply for you. The government pays for this with tax money. Y’know, spending taxes on medicine, not nukes. I don’t see how this system is weird in any way. Also, dental is expensive regardless of where you go. The reason it is considered more expensive here is because it is not covered under public subsidization. This is because dental is not life threatening; it is usually for aesthetic fixtures involving your teeth. Of course, dental surgery for the sake of saving you life IS free. The way it works is simple; Australia says, “If you are sick, or injured, or about to die, we are happy to help for free, as long as you do not demand special privileges.” Simple as that; not weird.

Bad roads? More recreational drugs, apparently. That, or when he visited, he toured the desert and outback.

Of course universities are public. In Australia, we value equality. (Yes, mistakes were made involving the Aboriginals, but if you knew anything about Australia, you would understand that the Stolen Generation and all its issues have been dealt with, apologized for and is now being made back in favor of Aboriginals.) We don’t want to discriminate against working-class folk and stop them from acquiring a respectable education. That is also why it is “free”, which, by the way, is false. It is not free, it is just loaned until the student is in a job and earning enough to pay it back. This system allows the non-rich people of Australia to be able to also acquire a respectable education and ensure the nation remains educated and advanced.

Bad houses? Please see comment about roads.

Australian crime? All you have to do is check out Google for some crime statistics and it is CLEAR that Australia is superior to America in regards to crime. Due to our advanced education and dedicated upbringing from our parents, our country is actually filled with a large amount of law abiding, respectable human beings who would not only ensure they commit no crimes, but ensure that others do not and thwart any criminal attempts.

There you go. Those are my two cents. Actually, Australia is a smart enough country to realize the cost to make a one cent coin is more than the coin is worth itself; thus the one cent coin was abolished years and years ago, unlike in America. So those were my ten cents. Hope you got an aneurysm reading them.

PS: It was quite entertaining reading this stunningly false facts, but some of them just made me a little angry, so I had no choice to write this. :] Keep up the great blog, Bob.


BobinOz September 26, 2012 at 11:40 pm

Nice counter arguments Richard and all very valid. You seem to be a bit flummoxed though by the very serious problem raised by Fred in his bonus reason about “Sandstorms come from the desert as well.”

Is there anything we Australians can do about this?

Got to go, pests are attacking again! “Ouch! Aargh! Get off of my leee lee leee leeeggg!!”

Bloomin’ crocodiles get everywhere!


Richard September 26, 2012 at 11:59 pm

Mate, those crocodiles. Found one in my shoe the other day.

But those sandstorms. I can’t say I know a way to stop them. Fred’s right. Everyday of the year is like a yellowy brown Christmas. Oh wait, it doesn’t snow here. Anyway, I’m surprised the kangaroos can see where they’re hopping.


tanya September 28, 2012 at 12:22 am

i am an aussie born and raised in australia i moved to america 8 years ago some things what fred said was true yes our ozone layer is bad yes the uv is bad and more skin cancer problems there than anywhere in the world but that can be fixed by slip slop slap put on sunscreen slap on a hat and keep a shirt on no worries. yes spiders r bad so is the rabbits and foxes and carp well we really wouldnt have had that problems if those immigrants didnt bring those buggers over her. now about the babies i do agree so some degree babies having babies is disgusting


tanya September 28, 2012 at 12:39 am

oh and about the crime rate well i can tell u that australias crime rate is alot better than america its really discusting how much murders r happening every day in america and gang violence here is out of hand the murders in america that happens in just 1 day is pretty much a whole year in australia and i know that i feel better and know its much safer for my children to grow up there than america and the schools i dont think there is a problem with the school in australia let me make a point on this 1 the schools in america have metal detectors so the kids cant bring knives and guns to school and there is a cop that stays there at the schools so the children and teachers can feel safe if u ask me thats pretty bad. health care and dental care it really doesnt matter where u live dental care is going to be expensive and medicare pretty much covers that bill and in america if u dont pay out of your butt for insuance


tanya September 28, 2012 at 12:51 am

cant even see a doc without paying alot of money and to get medications costs alot oh and the roads i have never seen a problem yes way in the outback there is dirt roads but hardly any traffic drives on them in the major cities in america the roads are not taken care of. and atleast australian people keep the cities and towns clean of trash not like here in america. and for those who think why im living in a place i dont like well my answer is im not planning to stay i am planning to move back to australia to raise my children in a much safer place.


BobinOz September 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm

Well, Fred started it :-) The phrase “glass houses and stones” comes to mind.

Sounds like you’re pining for Australia Tanya, I hope you can come home soon.



Dean December 8, 2012 at 8:12 am

Well i didnt get a chance to see good ol freds site but having read thru every comment it makes me proud to be australian. Josh kinda upset me but eh hes a flaming gallah that guy.

Keep up the good work bob


BobinOz December 8, 2012 at 9:15 pm

Well, there’s always one or two gallahs (for my non-Aussie readers, gallah = idiot), but in an unintentional kind of way they offer enormous entertainment for the rest of us.

Cheers Dean!


Aussie Chick January 24, 2013 at 10:01 pm

WOW this is hilarious. And utter BS! Very amusing. And spoken from true ignorance. Well done!


BobinOz January 25, 2013 at 5:06 pm

Glad it made you laugh, it certainly gave me plenty of chuckles.


australiaspiderville February 1, 2013 at 5:21 pm

australia is crawling with insane bugs. the spiders and enormous beetles are enough to make me never want to go there. also heard through people living there that the natives there are just terrible, loud and vicious people.


BobinOz February 3, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Maybe you should visit before expressing an opinion?


Drek Thar February 14, 2013 at 9:37 pm

Hmm a few things I wanted to point out that most people already have but what the hell lol… he’s right that it’s bloody expensive to live here, the housing and rental market is insane, if you’re a low income earner or on welfare you’re going to have serious accommodation worries, power & gas & groceries are all also a lot pricer than other countries.. but if you’ve got the cash you should be fine.

As for the bugs.. If you live in a suburban or city area the bugs and insects are really not a problem, they are around but for the most part they won’t bother if you don’t bother them and an exterminator is just a phone call away to keep them out of your house. They’re really not that big a deal.

Bushfires tend to be in bushy/country areas more than city & suburban areas, I’ve lived in oz my whole life and the closest I’ve come to a bushfire is smoke that’s been blown into the city from far away fires.

I don’t think the crime rate is any higher here than anywhere else, infact it may be lower I don’t know, there is a high level of alcohol abuse and amphetamine useage in OZ so sometimes a night out can end with you running into some violent people but if you know which areas to avoid on fri and sat nights you should fine. One thing I will say is I think we aren’t tough enough on criminals as we should be, far too many people get let out or get slaps on the wrist.

The healthcare system here is pretty good, yes there are some long waiting lists, but our public hospitals are free as far as I’m aware and if you’re on low income/can’t afford medications you can get them cheap, where as in places like the U.S you’ll have to pay a load for both healthcare and medication.

Bad roads? Maybe out in the country but in the cities the roads are fine, maybe a little small for a growing population but the condition of them seems to be fine.



BobinOz February 15, 2013 at 5:14 pm

Yes, pretty good sum up Drek, thanks!



Grace March 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm

Hi I just happened to come across this blog… and my first impression while reading this blog was that I thought it seemed too biased. I actually live in Canada and I previously used to live in NZ and I think those ppl who closed down Fred’s site should have respected his freedom of speech instead of suppressing his ideas by doing that (unless he had very offensive comments to say, resulting in a hate crime, then I would understand why they would have had to close down his site). Of course, I would speculate his views were also quite extreme b/c obviously every country requires a set of laws to protect their citizens, and I would pretty much guess Australia has them too. But one point did catch my attention, I don’t know if you guys know, but UV radiation has started to become a major concern in certain parts of Australia due to ozone depletion and the formation of the Antarctic Ozone hole over areas down south, and it is sad that some countries in europe and other parts of the world still haven’t banned CFCs. I myself haven’t lived in Australia so I do not know about what the conditions are like, but someone commented about how getting “skin cancer is just as likely as getting any other kind of cancer,” however according to scientific papers it has been confirmed that UV light is a mutagenic agent that causes induced mutations to occur in DNA, which may lead to cancer. This doesn’t mean that I am criticizing Australia for that, I’m just saying that for any place where there is more UV radiation or direct sunlight there may be a potential for higher skin cancer rates. But really if you look there is no place in this world that is completely perfect, wherever you live, there are potential dangers to your life such as from natural disasters like earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis, floods, volcanoes, forest fires and a whole lot more other things, you simply can’t live in fear of everything!


BobinOz March 4, 2013 at 9:53 pm

You are right Grace, there is no absolutely safe place in the world, each country comes with its own set of risks. I am happy to live in Australia with its associated risks, there are certainly far far more dangerous countries to live in.

As for Fred site being taken down, you haven’t had the benefit of reading everything he said and I’m afraid he took the freedom of speech bit a little too far. Some of his claims were quite offensive to all Australians. I’m not too surprised it was taken down.


Kade971 March 14, 2013 at 1:01 pm

is this guy a sook


Sab March 17, 2013 at 1:54 pm

Hi. Im an Aussie who returned after 20 years away. To be absolutely honest, upon getting back I felt so disappointed. I hate it here but not for any trite or untrue reasons such as Fred wrote about. At first I thought, just stick with it. Change can be difficult at first. But, 6 years later, I am leaving again. Now, I like good, warm weather, sandy beaches & beautiful scenery. Beyond doubt, Aus has all that. What I find objectionable is the racism, the sexism, the ageism, the sheer amount of bogans, drugies, drunks, and the awful amount of poverty & homelessness I’ve seen since coming home. The Aus attitude to someone down on their luck has become apathetic to outright cruel. This is not the country I left. Now people can sue each other, there’s en masse privatisation of essential services such as health care & public transport for example. Here, in Sydney, housing is so expensive that people crowd 4 in each bedroom & another 2 in the lounge. Studio apartments are being advertised as cheap if they fall below $450 per/week. Little wonder there is overcrowding! Personally, I do not consider shared bedrooms as 1st world living. What on earth happened? Aus was spacious, young, optimistic, outdoorsy, a DIY culture… People used to be concerned, not just for there own standard of living, but for the whole community. I ask again, what happened to Au?


BobinOz March 18, 2013 at 8:50 pm

Well, I don’t suppose there’s any country in the world that hasn’t changed significantly over the last 20 years, so I’m not surprised you have seen a different Australia.

What I am surprised about though is what you thought of it. I can tell you what you have witnessed is an alien world to the one I’m used to up here in Brisbane. Maybe you should have come to Queensland, we still enjoy plenty of outdoorsy stuff, we have loads of green fields around us and the people are kind, friendly and help each other.

Not sure exactly where you were, but it’s not an Australia that I recognise.


Loz May 10, 2013 at 10:06 am

Sab, I’d have to agree with you…but only for the fact you live in Sydney. Whilst I haven’t lived there for quite some time, I find when I visit it does tend to have that big city attitude about it, with the locals being unfriendly and the like, not so different from the feeling I got when living in London.
Agree with Bob…maybe you should try Qld!


Ian March 30, 2014 at 1:56 am

I have to intervene here because of some REEDICKULARSE crap! Yeahh ok Im a couple of years late but I see comments are still open. Josh you are NOT correct regarding your comments on indigenous peoples in Australia. It is too complex to answer Josh, but I would be happy to if you have the time! As to white Australia, one person in 4 is born somewhere else, 2 kids out of 4 have one parent born some whre else, more Chinese than British now immigrate. Good God Josh, you are so wide of the mark! I know a Chinese guy here who used to live in Canada, he loves it here and wont go back, says the people are great and loves the laid back way. ANy one who says there is racism here has obviously NOT read how many people come from so many different places – racism is IMPOSSIBLE with that mix!


BobinOz March 31, 2014 at 2:33 pm

Oh, please, don’t wake Josh up again, it’s best if we leave him be :-)


Brazz June 6, 2013 at 7:54 am

This is my perspective as a seasonal weather lover and keen snowboarder growing up in Perth.

1. It’s too old, flat, eroded and leached.
2. Hydrology is unacceptable (not enough decent freshwater lakes and rivers).
3. The latitude is too low (solar incidence too higher) for someone of north european descent.
5. Winter is severely lacking it’s edge.
5. It’s too far away from the rest of the western world.
6. Skiing/snowboarding is non-existant in WA and is touchy at best over east
7. The closest reliable snowboarding is in Japan costing a kidney each time
8. Major cities are largely too sleepy, with the exception of Melbourne and Sydney.
9. Lack of affordable medium and high density housing.

Everything else is great. Unfortunately the above reasons are fatal. Yeah I have strict geographical requirements and im not like most people on the weather (not looking for comfort). I’ll be on my way to Canada then.


BobinOz June 6, 2013 at 1:55 pm

No 10? :-)

You do sound more like a Canada kind of person. Australia isn’t for everybody, but it’s certainly no place for snowboarders!




Zack March 7, 2015 at 8:26 am

You don’t go to WA to snowboard mate, most people move there to start work mining… Not much else out there… But if you’d looked up population percentage of aussiesthat live on the east coast…you’ll find that’s where most of us are


Chris June 23, 2013 at 9:16 am

I loved your blog. Everyone, as you say is entitled to their opinion. I am Australian born and will stay here for life. I love it here. Yes, I have travelled, seen poverty and other ways of life. I feel blessed.


BobinOz June 24, 2013 at 12:11 am

I feel blessed too Chris, now that I’m here. I’m not Australian born, but I will stay here for life now that I’ve got here. Cheers mate!


Cathy Paul June 24, 2013 at 5:43 am

Hi Bob
I just wanted to say I’ve been following your blog since April and have found it fascinating and totally invaluable for information, from education, kids and the best places to live in Australia.

My husband and I live in the UK with our 2 daughters aged 4 and 6 and we’re trying to get to Australia with a sponsorship (my husband is a panel beater). Originally we were going to head for Perth seeing’s how it seems to be on the up with economy and jobs etc, but after reading lots of different comments on your site I’ve changed my mind and quite fancy Brisbane or Adelaide – having never been to Oz it’s been great listening to everybody’s different perspectives, and all duly noted!

I’ve always enjoyed living in the UK, I love the history and the countryside and the monarchy etc, but I must admit in the last 10 years, in my eyes, it has really gone down hill, rapidly (I probably notice more since being a parent I guess), but I hate the overcrowding, the letting people in regardless of what they have to offer the country, the lack of opportunities for our youngsters with regards to jobs etc, crime is getting worse and so is the drugs scene, but most of all I’m hating our bloody cold, damp weather! It’s just getting worse and worse every year.

It’s been a tough decision to make, with leaving family etc, I don’t live in a bad part of the UK we’re on the SW coast, but once we made our minds up to move reading your blog has been really helpful in confirming we’re making the right decision. I know this has nothing to do with the ‘subject’ in hand, i just wanted to let you know I’m enjoying reading bob in oz!

Cheers Cathy


BobinOz June 24, 2013 at 9:39 pm

Hi Cathy

Thanks for popping by and letting me know that you’re enjoying my website, it’s much appreciated.

Yes, it is a big decision to leave the UK, but if you do come here to Australia I’m sure you will not regret it, I am equally sure your young children will have a much better life and future here. My daughter was just 3 1/2 and we came here, she is now nine and absolutely loves her lifestyle here, always being outside, lots of friends and most of all jumping in the pool.

I hope you and your family make it here some time, and I really hope you get to love this place is much as we do.




Shelly July 5, 2013 at 9:41 am

Australia is the worst place to live in the world. DON’T GO TO AUSTRALIA.


George July 26, 2013 at 7:15 pm

I live in Australia. A lot of this information is actually false.


BobinOz July 29, 2013 at 2:05 pm

Yes George, we know. This post is about the opinion of a man called Fred, nobody is suggesting it is factual.



Steve August 12, 2013 at 10:43 am

I lived in Oz for a year. I went there thinking I was going to want live there but returned back to England. I loved the beaches in Oz, the laid back lifestyle & Sydney was a pretty cool city but I decided against the move in the end. One reason, family & I’ve got a lot of good friends in England & I was surprised by how much I missed them while I was out therel. Originally I lived in Essex which was nice but not for me, I ended up moving to Cornwall, it actually reminds me of Oz to be honest. They seem to have that laid back life style here very similar to Oz. There’s beautiful beaches & scenery here, with lot’s to do. The one thing we haven’t got though is the Ozy weather but I can live with that. I also love London, I wouldn’t want to live there but I love visiting the City when I can find good deals on hotels. I understand why people from Oz love it there though, I have got a few friends out there who love it. I visit it when I can, it’s just ashame the flights are so expensive because I would go out there more often.


BobinOz August 12, 2013 at 11:58 pm

Missing family and friends is probably the biggest reason why people return to England, so you are not alone on that. Cornwall is quite nice, if I really had to live in England, I suspect that’s where I would go. But for me, I love it here in Australia.

Everyone is different, which is lucky really, otherwise we’d all want the same things.

Cheers Steve!


Em May 26, 2015 at 12:45 pm

i was living in Aus for 2 years it was ok i moved back to England now because i missed my family and friends but my husband likes it there and wants me to move back but im confused and dont know what to do any suggestions welcome


BobinOz May 26, 2015 at 7:25 pm

It’s a tough one Em, only you can decide. If you have children, make sure you read about the Hague Convention…


If you do decide to come back and give Australia another go, you will have to find a way of coping with missing your family and friends otherwise you will end up just wanting to return to England again. Doing that can be quite expensive. Good luck, whatever you decide.


Elli August 19, 2013 at 4:17 pm

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Four Exess September 3, 2013 at 6:00 am

Actually there is a complete missunderstanding, Australia has 40% of the WORLD’s uranium, google it please and check out the USA nuclear tests in the middle of Australian territory, after living with those selective overcapitalist cheapsholes I believe there is far beyond the greatest deception I ever got in my life, just dont let that piece of red un hearted land steal the last cent you have, Enjoy yourself by the way how can you explain that the rent 5 years ago was (example mine) $100 a week and now is more than 700 a studio for a week, is atm daddy mining getting wasted? so please stop promoting lies.
by the way, enjoy your last months of real state bubble =)


BobinOz September 3, 2013 at 8:41 pm

The only two words in your comment that seem to make sense to me are “complete misunderstanding” because there’s certainly been that. I have no idea what you are on about.

Thanks though, Bob


Barberode September 13, 2013 at 7:11 pm

I live in Melbourne since 2005 and have to say that the city is very expensive, 4 years ago I bought a brand new 3 bedrooms house and the quality was shocking, there is no proper insulation, no proper/sufficient heating, you are able to hear every single noise from outside and from other bedrooms, the houses are built so close next to each other that you can hear easily people living next door and for this comfort you can expect minimum of $ 500.000 purchase price, but this is the new trend in costruction here, I call this domestic houses here overpriced paperboxes, public transportation is far behind from every country in Europe and vocational school system is really a joke, I know this field, because I work in it.
After 7 years of living in best city in the world, I can tell you that I will be happy to leave back to my native Bavaria/Germany, where not everything is the best, but at least my kids get high quality education for free of charge, I will have proper place to live with hydronic heating and thick walls as a standard, not overpriced luxury, the quality products from cars to electronic, cloths are not overpriced like here and the working environment is more efficient, I start to miss the Alps and lakes, good food and the quality for affordable price. So the Fred was right in 60% of his article. By the way in Melbourne you need to heat your house at least 5 months in the year, so what is the difference in the weather between Munich and Melbourne???


BobinOz September 16, 2013 at 2:00 pm

You may well prefer Germany to Melbourne, but that does not make Fred 60% right. For example, you say Melbourne is expensive, but it isn’t because “the government pays for babies” is it?

By the way, the house that you bought it may have been useless and too close to the neighbours, but here in Brisbane I love my house, which is modestly priced, and has tons of room around it. I reckon you just chose the wrong place.


Jared October 21, 2013 at 3:48 pm

I live in Hawaii now. I am a member of the US military and going to school. I feel my reasons for wanting to move to Australia are a bit narrow-minded, However they are backed on realities that I fully understand from having been raised on Oahu all my life – The most densely populated of the island chain. and still a land mass surrounded by water for miles on end.

Expensive Cost of living? Hah. no stranger to that!. However, unlike what it sounds like is the case in Aus, Hawaii does NOT adjust this fact to what we earn. Minimum wage is still US $7.25/hr. which is the same minimum wage in almost all other states of the US even though the cost of living is up to 1/3 of here.

Gas is US $4.80 per gallon. and i love cars. (sadly the truth comes out): My main reason for wanting to live in Aus. The american sportscar/car enthusiast market is a diluted pile of poo in comparison to what Europe/Japan/Aus has to offer it’s customers UNLESS we want: A Camaro, a Corvette, or a Mustang… Which is why the Skylines (and practically Every low volume turbocharged fun-powered cars) were banned from ever reaching American markets. because the small 2.6 twin turbo threatened the sales of their big 10,000,000 litre V8s that get 2mpg with only 400hp.

So every car that was ever sold in the US had an inferior engine to its original spec, or just wasn’t sold at all here. No S15s. No skylines at all. No Utes. No turbochargers on anything. one example, our S13 and S14s come with 2.4 litre Iron block 4 cylinders out of a nissan pickup truck. generating 155hp and 160tq. with a 6,500 rpm redline.

whoops… going off topic.

Critters? We got those too. Hawaiian centipedes, scorpions, and apart from snakes (which we are slowly getting from dumb smugglers), a bite is a bite. if its poisonous you die. how many people have died? its a part of being alive on earth.

Skin cancer? That applies anytime you live on earth and the sun touches your skin.

The thing is, being in the military i also traveled throughout mainland USA too.. And im not too big a fan of the people and purely miles of woods and desert or concrete cities with no love that USA prides itself on.

I liked the people of Hawaii. but its just TOO small!. i lived here for 23 years and i’m bored! the beaches i love still. but there’s not enough land and ontop of having no good car culture, and New york city-like traffic that makes a 10 mile trip take an hour, its boring trying to drive around it 5000 times pretending my paradise exists! Australia is almost a humorous god-sent piece of geography in this sense to me.

Let me explain. ^ It’s like if one of those TV commercials you come across was actually talking to you:

(TV announcer voice) “Are you tired of being stuck in traffic on a tiny island in the middle of nowhere with nothing to explore and high cost of living and an absolute lack of fun fast cars, but not willing to give up the island lifestyle of being close to the beaches and having year-round relatively warm weather? …. WELL LOOK NO FURTHER! Australia is an 8 hour flight south west of you and covers ALL your bases!”

haha. ^ thats just what it feels like. And as long as the people are decent ENOUGH (Im very realistic in this regard, as hawaii isn’t all sunshine and daisies either), there will be nothing holding me back from loving it!

The only thing keeping me from being able to move to AUS are my oblications to the military.. but as far as wanting to get out of this craptastic state in the US, im a dog on a leash and i’m pulling hard!

I just need to know how i’m going to do this… I still don’t know what i want to be “when i grow up”. as i don’t have a degree. considering to finish college here in Hawaii in a degree that looks valuable in Aus. and try to find a job that way. how does that sound?


Jared October 21, 2013 at 4:03 pm

oh ya… and You guys say its expensive to live in Australia. I just want to put that in prospective to where i live now.

My half-decent neighborhood on the east side (contryside of Oahu. opposite to Honolulu/waikiki and all the heavy city activities/jobs) which takes about a half hour to drive about 20 miles in good traffic to work is a small 3 bedroom 2 bath sub-division with a 2 car parking “hole”. can’t really call it a garage.

Monthly rent without utilities: $2200/mo. to buy the place? $150,000.
I live with 2 other people because of how expensive it is. we split the bill and if any one of us F’s around we will definitely be evicted.

My mother’s average 4 Bedroom, 3 bathroom, 2 living room, 2 car garage town house with a small yard is now worth about $950,000. 15 years ago she bought it for $550,000

remember, minimum wage is still $7.25 and the state average income of all the population is UNDER $45,000 per year. my mother is lucky enough to make $90,000 a year. and most people do like me and live cramped into a single living quarters and split the bill.

Alternatively, you can spend $800-1000 (No utilities) per month on a low-income housing with zero parking in the slums of waikiki/China town/Waianae and risk getting stabbed, shot, or infected with HIV.

So what am i up against when looking to Aus. for a brighter future??

I’d like a place within 5-10 miles of a beach and large city. But I’m not like these picky home-hunters on TV. as long as its a 2 bedroom, 2 bath, with an enclosed 2 car garage in a safe neighborhood, i don’t care how it looks! as long as its not falling apart.


Deanoz October 21, 2013 at 6:51 pm

Well quite the essay you have written there. Well I can only give u a melbourne perspective on things. I’m currently living about 13 Kms from the city and the nearest beach. With the abundance of freeways takes about 15 minutes to get to the beach for me and the further u travel the nicer the beach. It costs me $250 a week to rent a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom townhouse single garage. And utilities range from about $400 to $800 for 3 months.

In the army don’t they teach u a trade? Or is that only here. I know with incoming people that wish to settle here they require you to have some sort of beneficial work related skill. Studying here is also very expensive upwards of $6000 a year.


BobinOz October 22, 2013 at 1:32 pm

For some reason living in Hawaii suggests the notion of living in paradise and most people regard those who do live there as being rather lucky.

Thanks for putting us all straight on that one :-) it actually sounds awful. I think you will love Australia Jared, hope you find a way to get here soon.

I bet Deanoz’ (hi Deanoz) probably sounds like HE is living in paradise to you, even from where I am up here in the even sunnier and hotter Brisbane :-) it sounds pretty good too.

Cheers, Bob


Jared October 23, 2013 at 6:14 pm

They do teach you skills of course. Personally I’m a 3 year hydraulics mechanic in an aviation shop. What the US military doesn’t tell you (even when they advertise it on tv) is that any skill you aquire in service can’t transfer towards a civilian job directly. Even though I CAN work on any bird I touch, in order to get a job working on civilian helicopters, I still need an a&p license and pay the $30, 000 to go through the schooling and get the certificate. The only thing the military did in this case is make it easy to pass such a class. They don’t care about military veterans in their skill specialty, they just want to see the civilian diploma.

Also, bob. I know your English. But I was recently discussing my interest to move with a couple of friends and they all told me Australians generally don’t like americans, so Id be treated badly? What’s funny is I’m half japanese half half English ethnicly, so on the rare case I get picked at here in the US is because of my asian side (which never happens in hawaii, but more so on the US continent). I don’t want to believe its going to be too much of a problem, but is there anything in need to be wary about in regards to my american accent or my asian (ish) appearance?


BobinOz October 24, 2013 at 12:54 am

It’s difficult for me to answer your question from the American side of things based on personal experience, I think I’ve only met a few people from the USA, maybe three or four at most since living here. But I certainly haven’t heard of anyone complaining about being treated badly. Remember, this country is full of immigrants from all over the world, I’m one of them myself.

That brings me to your Asian side, I have met loads of them, there’s no shortage of Asians here. They are not treated badly either. So I don’t think you have anything to be wary about, unless you are generally an unlikeable person, nobody likes those :-) and I’ll explain what I mean by that.

I vaguely remember a few years ago a US General from the army was stationed here in Darwin, he started complaining loudly about our women not being dressed correctly, something like that.

He was hated immediately and that’s how not to get on with people in Australia. Put simply, Australians like likeable people, they don’t like people who aren’t likeable, and they really don’t like people who come here and have a pop at Australians.

Simple really.

Cheers Jared, take care, Bob


Barberode October 27, 2013 at 1:50 pm

That is true, Australians like people who promote Australia and its way of living, who do not mention the reality to them, once you tell them the negative things about Australia, they will not talk to you anymore. Australia is perhaps lucky country, but not a clever country.


BobinOz October 27, 2013 at 8:01 pm

Barberode, you have totally misinterpreted my comment whilst at the same time pigeonholing all Australians. Australia is actually made up of individual people who think in different ways.

And what’s this “do not mention the reality to them”? The reality of my story was that somebody arrived here from another country and decided, based on his own conservative views, that he didn’t like the clothing some of our women wore during very hot days.

Nobody has the right to do that, after all these women were not breaking the law. Have you heard of the saying “when in Rome do as the Romans”?

You think Australia “is not a clever country”, but it is a free country and people who come here from other countries and try to impose their values on our way of life are simply not welcome.

Anyway, please let me know which country you come from Barbs and I will construct a similarly meaningless short sentence describing all of the people who live there.

Cheers, Bob


Barberode October 28, 2013 at 5:18 pm

Hi Bob,

I do not mean all Australians are like that, but 65% are like that as I described, just those who actually traveled or lived in another country for sometime are pretty OK and have good overview about the rest of the world and coming back to Australia making them flustrated, I know many young Australians, who came back home after several years in Europe and they can’t cope with this mentality here anymore. As I do work in education sector, I met many teenagers who do not have respect in front of their teachers, parents and other people, yes this is free country. I come from one of the most democratic country in Europe, also free country built on principles of parlamentary democracy, but what I observed here I have not seen before. To be honest I would not send my kids in the school in Australia, they learn not so much as in Europe, they spent 60% time at school in outdoor playing games. Why many engineers, actors, singers, scientists, leaving Australia? Do not get me wrong, I think Australia is beautiful country and very attractive for people from poorer countries to settle down here, people from high tech, democratic western countries come here down under to stay for couple of years and mostly they return back after the local experience, me too I am here because of opportunity, not because of the culture, weather or people, once the opportunity gone, I am back home in Europe.


BobinOz October 28, 2013 at 11:34 pm

Are you for real Barb?

Look, everybody is entitled to their own opinions, you’ve already said earlier in this thread that you think Melbourne is expensive, the housing here is shocking, public transport useless, education system a joke blah blah blah.

That’s fine, you don’t like Australia, you are welcome to that view. Isn’t it such a shame your own country that you love so much cannot give you the same opportunity that this country does? If it could, you wouldn’t have to put up with all this stuff.

Here’s what you don’t have the right to say though; “Australians like people who promote Australia” – “once you tell them the negative things about Australia, they will not talk to you anymore” – “65% are like that” – “they spent 60% time at school in outdoor playing games” – “people from high tech, democratic western countries come here down under to stay for couple of years and mostly they return back after the local experience”. You don’t have the right to say these things because none of these things are facts, they are only ideas in your head.

Do you have any idea how funny it is that you’ve come up with actual percentages? Have you done time and study motion covering every school in Australia before concluding that they spend 60% of their time playing games? Did you tell thousands and thousands of Australians negative things about Australia just find out how many would continue talking to you and how many would stop talking to you before coming up with the 65% figure?

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics doesn’t have statistics on what people here “think”. Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics doesn’t have statistics on why Australians might not talk to you anymore. Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics doesn’t know why people leave this country.

So, please, don’t try telling us that you know these things, you don’t. You’re guessing.


Barberode November 1, 2013 at 7:12 pm

Hi Bob, yes maybe you’ re right, I am guessing, but I speak to people through my job, I have an opportunity to see the real life in Australia, not this what Australian Bureau of Statistics or Australian Government officially telling to people, I do not believe in such a statistics, they are based mostly on misleading/ not fully correct information. The statistic says that average salary in Melbourne is 68.000$, but the truth is that you are happy if you earn around 45-50.000$ a year, the statistic claims the unemployment rate in Australia is 5.6%, the fact is that according to EU Australia has almost 17% unemployment rate if you use the same way to count unemployment as countries of EU do, in Australia everyone who has job even for one day a week, is out of statistic, but you can’t survive with this money. How come that people who have a many assets, because they worked so hard and they paid taxes accordingly will not qualify for their pension? Is it also a part of the freedom in Australia and fairness? Why the home owners need to pay such a ridiculous fees to councils and even some fees as a contribution for parks, which they do not use? Australia punishes people who are owning something. Also such an incredible high traffic or parking fines I have never seen in Europe before. Australia is a country more or less of idividualists, everything is here so superficial, no tradition, so changeable very similiar to USA rather than to Europe. I can go on, but I will not because as you mentioned people who come here from other countries and try to impose their values and show different way of life are simply not welcome. I do not expect that Australia will have big progress in the future, it is still a colony, at least how it behaves, So God bless Australia and its people!

BobinOz November 5, 2013 at 1:44 pm

Barberode, you are just too funny. You are now explaining to me why your guesswork from speaking to people through your job is more accurate than the ABS?

Again you have gone on a rant about things you hate about Australia, yet Australia by your own admission offers you opportunities you cannot get from your home country. Talk about bite the hand that feeds you.

Here’s a little tip for you on those traffic and parking fines, consider driving and parking legally.

Cheers, Bob


ryan latsger November 8, 2013 at 8:43 am

i live in australia and trust me none of that is true


BobinOz November 8, 2013 at 9:09 pm

Yes, I live here too, and I agree Ryan.


sasha December 1, 2013 at 7:23 pm

Totally agree and everyone in Australia is amazing


Barberode December 2, 2013 at 5:00 pm

You are living in dreams, wake up and see the things in real! Every country in the world has amazing people and bad people, so Australia, talk to immigrants and you will see what they think, talk to tourists and ask them what they think, you will be suprised!!! Australian tourism is weak, because of quality of services provided and the price, even Australians are travelling rather to abroad to spend their money than to stay in country, why? Simple answer, too expensive!!!!


BobinOz December 2, 2013 at 11:37 pm

Barberode, I have removed the bad language from your post and would appreciate you not using it again if you decide to comment further. I can’t stop you from talking rubbish, that’s your choice, but I will block you if you continue to use offensive words.

By the way, the latest statistics prove once again that what you think in your head is not the reality, see my post about immigration figures.


D.Graham April 6, 2015 at 4:06 pm

Hi Bob,
He’s not talking rubbish, our customer service is shocking, (here in Perth anyhow). Having read his comments he’s only expressing his opinion! I have read your blog for a while now and I think a lot of what you write is ‘rubbish’, but it amuses me because I know of so many who have had the opposite experience to you!
If you open a blog to outside comments then be prepared to find opinions that are different to yours, (even opposite!).
Damo, (Perth WA).


BobinOz April 7, 2015 at 5:59 pm

This really is quite extraordinary. There are over 25,000 comments on this website and I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times one reader has come to the aid of another to simply defend what the other person has said. Even more interestingly, one of those occasions was when somebody came to also defend the comments made by Barberode.

Turned out that ‘Henry’ who, like yourself, agreed with Barberode, was almost certainly Barberode pretending to be somebody else, although this was denied by Barberode.

So I’m going to take your comment with a pinch of salt Damo, but I will say this to you. Yes, everybody is entitled to their opinions and that’s one of the reason I have this open forum, so people can make their opinions heard. But when people like Barberode come out with absolute piffle and then puts percentages on that piffle as though it’s fact, I have every right, no, I have a responsibility to point out to my readers what rubbish it is.


sasha December 1, 2013 at 7:21 pm

ok hold on these things r rubbish first of all the people here are amazing second about the sun yeah its hot only in summer its like 30 but just put on sunblock yes it is expensive only people normal people who are not million airs its normal price ok so first of all get your butt to Australia and see it for real and at leased we dont go killing people with guns like in the US


BobinOz December 1, 2013 at 9:06 pm

Well said Sasha :-)


Jared September 11, 2014 at 7:27 pm

hello I’m back again. Sorry if my reply is WAYY off as I am replying to a conversation which has gone in any direction one could imagine by now after a whole year, but In reply to Sasha about the US.

^ while the statement about people killing people with guns is subjective, the underlying emotion of your comment – and that context – IS spot-on and reveals yet another reason i want out of the US; we have an uncomfortably high number of foreign countries with the general consensus that they either dislike or hate the US for one reason or another, many the same reasons, if at the very least for it’s stereotypes – which by merely the impression they give others of us is equally no good for our well being.

what – with the wars we’ve waged, the new dramas coming up, our dictators always poking the bears and beehives of nothern asia and europe… and as one who is no stranger to first and second hand combat myself, the future looks pretty grim for us…

Australia to me, amongst all my other reasons, seems a bit more “safe” and a bit more of a “neutral” country by comparison to the US in regards to the future. although we are allies… Let’s just say I don’t see North Korea or Russia targeting AUS with missiles any time soon, especially when choosing between the US and AUS.

… and the longer I’m in this Army, the more i see it drawing near, whether anything happens or not, I’d rather not play in the street.


BobinOz September 12, 2014 at 8:24 pm

Not sure there are any ‘safe and neutral’ countries anymore, Australia has raised its security threat to high today for the first time in its history. I get what you’re saying though Jared, the US does remain probably one of the highest target countries in the world.


Jared September 13, 2014 at 9:56 am

ISIS to me and many Americans is a terrorist threat and therefore we are sort of used to it. I mean to say at least for me, it’s feared less because “terrorism” is something we live with anyway with our own domestic sociopaths, gangs, thieves, the police, and criminals in general.

the war in the middle east may be the biggest thing in the last 20 years to concern the masses, but it can definitely get much worse if we started fighting an actual super power. We haven’t fought a military war since WW2 and that would be where i stand on all this. America has not only terrorists, but MILITARY enemies. We are arrogant because we’ve been fighting the flinstones since vietnam. Pin our current forces against another country like China and Russia, the slaughter will dwarf Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait combined.

Before i sound redundant, this makes Aus the great escape for me. Solice in a world of chaos. I can cope with terrorists.


BobinOz September 15, 2014 at 6:37 pm

Well, if it kicks off with China and Russia, I think we will all know about that one wherever we are in the world.


Amber December 12, 2013 at 9:43 am

you know what, your stupid, Australia is probably the best country. Beautiful beaches, beautiful people, and the roads are perfectly fine, no roundabouts on highways and the schools and educations and most private and are definitely not *free* you probably have never been here considering your idiotic comments towards our amazing country, this is complete rubbish. AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI


Barberode December 15, 2013 at 3:59 pm

In Australia, education is the most expensive in the world, check this http://www.ibtimes.com/international-students-higher-education-really-inexpensive-germany-not-us-charts-1383641
Beaches, well I saw most beatiful beaches in Greece, Spain and France and highways I saw much better one in Germany, Switzerland and Italy so more or less just nature beauty, but this has been not created by people living in Australia, but by nature itself. People are amazing everywhere in the world, this is not speciality just in Australia.


anonymous September 2, 2014 at 8:17 pm

can you please stop comparing Australia to every other country, state, continent or city that comes to your mind and get over it. I think everyone has already figured out you don’t like Australia, we get it. stop ranting on for gods sake


louisa klimentos February 11, 2015 at 8:31 am

People get skin cancer because they are not having enough anti oxidents in their diets.That is why they get skin cancer from the sun.However on the other hand ,keeping yourself away from the sun will cause a deficiency on vitamin D.Not only do we need vitamin d for our bones we need it for good heart function and prevention of cancer.In the Uk most people have quite a deficiency in vitamin D and need to take approximately 5000 IU a day.So anyone wants to bag Australia for it’s harnful UV rays ,should think again.


Kamma February 11, 2015 at 6:33 pm

Hi Louisa, can you quote a source for an anti oxidant rich diet preventing skin cancer? It sounds interesting.


BobinOz February 11, 2015 at 7:00 pm

Kamma, Google “anti oxidant rich diet preventing skin cancer” – there is a shed load of information.

Louisa, interesting comment, but I still think if people are going to sunbake (which in my opinion is a ridiculous pastime) then they would still be in danger of getting some kind of skin cancer (and not just here in Australia), irrespective of their diet. Would you agree?

Cheers, Bob


louisa klimentos February 12, 2015 at 10:26 pm

Yes I do agree that you could still get skin cancer lying in the sun everyday until you burn to a crisp.On the ABC channel ,quite while ago studdies had shown people still ended up with skin cancer who never see the sun .A really healthy diet ,promotes good healthy body function and a really good imunity function.People should not fear living in Australia because of the Australian sun .Be careful but still allow yourelf to have some exposure to the sun.


louisa klimentos February 12, 2015 at 10:02 pm

You just google it and you will find the information you need.Just because you have a good healthy diet ,it doesn’t mean you can lie in the sun everyday until you burn to a crisp.You still can cause skin damage.Just don’t com\ntantly cover yourself 24 hours a day .There an increase number of people world wide with vitamin d dificiency,because the were told by the cancer council to keep away from the sun .Now scientists are connecting some forms of cancer with vitamin d deficiency.Best of luck with your research


BobinOz February 13, 2015 at 5:30 pm

That’s really my view as well Louisa, I think we must just respect the sun but not be afraid of it. I’ve never had a problem here and I refuse to put on sunscreen, I don’t trust that stuff, I don’t think chemicals on your skin is a good idea.


Culero December 19, 2013 at 9:00 am

no such thing as Australian, European etc, we are all god having a human experience, we have forgotten who we really are, the division is but an illusion, we live in a big universe :)


Culero December 19, 2013 at 9:05 am

just kidding lol, aussie is a cool place to live 😉 but am waiting to go into space, am one of the peeps going to mars, yeayyyyyy!!!!!!


BobinOz December 19, 2013 at 1:47 pm

Sounds like you are already on Mars Culero :-)


Ollie December 19, 2013 at 1:16 pm

Great blog! I recently emigrated to Perth from the UK and I’m loving it. It seems quite fashionable at the moment to hate on Perth but what I’ve seen it has the same cons as pretty much any other major city in the world with more pros than a lot of them.

It’s so much easier to have a outdoors lifestyle and still have access to the city.


BobinOz December 20, 2013 at 12:51 pm

Welcome to Oz Ollie, great to hear you are having fun in Perth. Not bad here, is it?


Henry December 27, 2013 at 10:16 pm

Having lived for the past three years in Melbourne and then moved to Munich I have to agree with Barberode… all so very very true. I moved to Oz from Cape Town and was bitterly disappointed – although I had been travelling to Oz regularly on business for five years prior to the move (to all the major Oz cities) – nothing prepared me for the different attitude and way of life I encountered. I found that I was resented for having work experience outside of Oz – I did find the medical system excellent and that is something here we have had to adjust to as we are not entitled to any of the German health system as we work as consultants and pay horrendously high private rates with BUPA- Having been out of the UK for so long we are no longer entitled to any of the agreements between Nat Health and EEC countries. That aside though I wouldn’t go back to Melbourne… Yes the culture was good in Melbourne but its much better here in Europe. The weather was dreadful in Melbourne and we found the people unbelievably insular. Its a great country but I prefer being in the centre of Europe with its global perspective… People are much more friendly here too and far more adaptable, educated and open to change. I confess I still get goose bumps when I hear ‘I still call Australia home’ since I fought long and hard to obtain my residency there and I never expected to leave – its interesting to read that there are several others who like me find Munich a great place to be and prefer it here to Oz… Okay so we don’t have roos here but I left the lions behind in Africa prior to going to Oz so here I guess I shall just get used to the bears instead!


BobinOz December 28, 2013 at 1:35 am

Hello Henry

So, you agree with Barberode? I was just wondering, do you actually agree with everything that Barberode says? Because, let’s face it, Barberode does have some rather unusual views, it would be really difficult to agree with everything Barberode says, unless of course, you are Barberode.

Hold on a minute, I’ve just noticed something. Your IP address, that’s the location of your server just happens to be exactly the same as Barberodes!

You are Barberode!

Well, how about that? It’s also interesting that the geological location of this IP address is Melbourne, not Munich.

So Barberode, you have stooped so low now as to agree with yourself under a different name. Pathetic and sad, but funny too :-)

How can you really not know that every time you send an email or a comment to a website, your IP address is easy to see. Please don’t waste any more of my time.


WA December 29, 2013 at 1:51 pm

Good One Bob, Keep catching him, it is getting interesting now :)



BobinOz December 30, 2013 at 5:19 pm

Thanks WA, it was easy. Who else would possibly agree with Barberode? :-)


louisa klimentos February 11, 2015 at 8:45 am

I found the people in Melbourne quite helpful and friendly in general.I guess it depends who you come across.Not all people in Europe are friendly .Maybe the people from Munic are friendly people .The Europeans in Europe don’t always like Europeans who were born and raised in another country.When i visited my relatives in Greece and Cyprus ,they were rude to me ,made me pay my way and never let me go anywhere.I had cousins organize an outing in front of me and never invited me.However when they came to Australia,they were demanding ,wouldn’t put a hand in their pockets to pay for anything.When i took them places ,they didnot appreciate it and kept comparing and puting Australia down.So how is it that all Euopeans living in Australia much friendly.Every country has friendly people and not so friendly people.


Kamma December 29, 2013 at 8:00 am

Are you sure he wasn’t doing satire or being ironic or whatever it’s called? I mean… It looks silly enough to be.


BobinOz December 30, 2013 at 5:23 pm

I admire your trying to see the best in people Kamma, but I see no satire here, just an attempt to mislead my genuine readers who are looking for honest opinions about life in Australia.

Cheers, Bob


Stew December 31, 2013 at 4:04 pm

You must be a POM


Ollie December 31, 2013 at 4:10 pm

Say what?


Barberode December 31, 2013 at 10:22 pm

Hi Bob, just explaining the confusion which occured with the IP address, Henry is old friend of mine who is living in my native city of Munich now, but he came for 3 weeks to Melbourne visiting his friends and escape from winter cold, so we had a discussion about this topic and I did show him your website and while he was visiting me he used my computer to express his freely opinion, so I did not write this comment as you mention above. I will not waste your time anymore, because I am not able to convince people that Australia is not such a perfect country as the propaganda says, the grass is not greener here as in other western countries, but to all people, please think twice before you make a final decission to move to Australia. Australia was a lucky country back in 70s, 80s maybe in 90s, but now get worse every single year, depends what you expect, you need to have right occupation,which is on demand, good connections, good money reserve at least for two years for living costs, in some cases be prepared to go back to school to redo your qualification, even you do not learn so much different stuff, the real average salary is around 45-50k a year before tax, if you are lucky enough to get full time job, many people have casual or part-time positions, living costs are more expensive than in most EU countries, the choice of products is limited, public transport is not so good at least in Melbourne and property prices are most expensive in the world comparing to avarage salary. Weather in Melbourne is horrible. If you like travel, stay in Europe!!!! If you have kids, Australia might be not bad country, but is the most expensive to raise a children. ( it might cost up to 1 million AUD to raise one child with university and private schools education) Health care is very efficient here, but I think most EU countries can offer better deals, especially when you need a dental care. So after 8 years living in Melbourne, I think that Australia in next couple of years will be the same or very similar to the UK now.
By the way, is predicted that the unemployment will raise about 1-2% in the next year in Melbourne, due to moving large companies as Holden, Ford, Toyota most likely will follow etc. to overseas. I am really worry about the future, when most industries will move to overseas, because of skills and labour costs. Australia doesn’t produce anything what could replace the gap of missing industry, or we will all work in hospitality, health care or in construction field. It is known that Australia has one of the highest wages, but now government wants to decrease it by increasing fees, prices, and etc. to remain less money in your pocket at the end of the day, they call it price correction to become competative again, so in other words, there will be not so much difference if you are working in London, Sydney or Frankfurt. You are able to find opportunity in this global world everywhere. You do not need to agree with me, but this is not only mine point of view.
Bob, can you tell me what Australia has extra to offer to Europeans, what Europe has not?


BobinOz January 2, 2014 at 2:01 am

Ah, great, so Henry IS a real person, glad you cleared that up for us. Very entertaining.

Erm, no, can’t be bothered to explain what Australia has extra to offer to Europeans, what Europe has not got. Home and Away is about to come on.


andrea January 24, 2014 at 2:36 pm

Lol, I love australia and I love england. At least your not in America, where you get shot, earn nothing and your government is the biggest liar of any in the world….


BobinOz January 25, 2014 at 8:52 pm
AAron July 20, 2014 at 3:35 am

I was sure I wasn’t the only one that knew that about the us. Politicians do not represent me. They just want my money in their pockets.


Andy January 24, 2014 at 10:27 pm

Hey Bob, glad I stumbled upon your blog. Hearing the argument “Australia is too far away” one too many times I decided to Google those words and this was the first result!

Being a proud born and bred Melbournian I found some of Barberode’s opinions offensive to say the least, or perhaps I would have if some were either slightly accurate or of consequence. Possibly if it was displayed as a pie chart showing the unlikeliness of both? I mean we’re all entitled to an opinion but least Fred meant well? 😉

Anyhow, your original post and all the comments to follow made for a great read on a quiet Friday night before a long weekend of celebrating how much I love this great country of ours.

Happy Australia day on Sunday to you and anyone else who may read this, especially Fred and Barberode!


BobinOz January 28, 2014 at 3:02 pm

Hi Andy, hope you had a great day on Sunday as well, I certainly had a good time.

Yes, Barberode was quite offensive at times towards the people of Australia and Australia itself. People are entitled to their opinions, but they are not entitled to pigeonhole a whole nation based on nothing other than what goes on inside their own heads.

But I did enjoy it when “Henry” turned up :-)

Glad you enjoyed reading it all, cheers, Bob


Kymmaree January 26, 2014 at 12:18 pm

I think most people think their country or choice of country is the best. I certainly wouldn’t swap Brisbane for any where else in the world though I am happy to visit your country for a while. If you aren’t happy where you are, move on but don’t blame the country or it’s people. Only you are responsible for your happiness or it’s lack. I think I could be happy almost anywhere, but I would miss Brissy.


BobinOz January 28, 2014 at 4:20 pm

Absolutely right! Move on if you’re not happy, don’t whinge and complain about it.

Like yourself, I’ve not seen anywhere yet that I would swap for Brisbane, I love it here too.


Kym Kelly-Taylor January 28, 2014 at 5:05 pm

Oh yes, the appearance of “Henry” was hilarious! I have seen people get caught out on that one before and it was funny then too.


BobinOz January 28, 2014 at 6:25 pm

But, but……. Henry is a real person, he was on holiday and… :-)


Kym Kelly-Taylor January 28, 2014 at 7:10 pm

Oh riiiight, I forgot he was a real troll, er. Person.


EMC2 January 30, 2014 at 1:54 pm

Sorry Bob, even though I am Aussie born and bred, I have a legitimate reason to add to your list…

Most of the beer is crap.

Admittedly it is slowly getting better (helped along with the craft boom), but in general, British beer is of a much higher quality than the yellow-dishwater we make here.


BobinOz January 30, 2014 at 5:04 pm

Okay, I’ll let you have that one, no arguments from me on that. British beers are best. Check out…

Australia’s Best Beers and Lagers by BobinOz

Cheers mate!



Christian Narvaez January 31, 2014 at 12:04 pm

I’ve been living in oz for almost 3 years originaly coming from south america. It is a great country and probably the best in the world for living when you put the pros and cons in the balance. I can count hundreds of positives, but also I have a view of some disadvantages that I would like to share with other potential migrants:
– People tend to be more superficial, specialy comparing with some Europeans in regarding to the interests and topics of conversations.
– Culture/Weather promotes ‘too much’ outdoors -not as smart activities- and too little the indoors -smarter and quiter- activities. i.e reading. A proof of that is that I have heard many inmigrats complaing about how restless are the aussie kids. (I recommend a good article/research of how there is almost none deficit of attention in France)
– Too far away from the western part of the world. The airticket from OZ to Europe and America is in average $2000 round trip.
– Because of that distance/cost of traveling, not many people can not afford traveling overseas and experiment other cultures. In consequence are tons of people are narrow-minded and unaware/uninterested of existence of different cultures other than Australian.
– Costs of some goods are in average 30% more expensive than in Europe and America. i.e cars, electronics, software applications.
– Housing cost is skyrocketting. I blame to the labour cost and the lack of development, that last one due to excesive regulation for building approvals.
– Australia is a low density country, the disadvantage of that are: Larger commuting times in cities, slower internet speed, no as many transport infrastructure (i.e no high-speed trains), expensive transport. Asia countries are far better in these points, due to their density.
– In most of the cities the shops close too early

..and some other small ones that apply to some specific people:
– Some cities are way too hot all year round. Lack of a proper winter.
– There are not high mountains, lakes, snow, volcanos or that sort of natural wonders (I know some people care about that)



BobinOz January 31, 2014 at 9:15 pm

I love “Lack of proper winter”, that’s a classic :-) It’s also why I came here (partly), to escape winter!

I’ll agree with you on a couple of your points Christian, yes, Australia is too far from the Western world and that does make it difficult to enjoy other cultures.

And my Internet connection is way too slow, I hate that.

I’m not buying the rest of your points though, in particular the pigeonholing of our people as superficial and not reading enough. You simply can’t label an entire nation like that.

But I do thank you for putting across your points and giving us your opinion, so thanks for taking the time to do that.

All countries have pros and cons, sounds like think the positives far outweigh the negatives.

Cheers, Bob


Kenkeu February 1, 2014 at 8:25 pm

Reading through the comments No country is paradise, not even Hawaii…

Every country has its pro n cons

Like where i come from malaysia

Background check, i ve been to japan, china, hong kong, germany, france,
Holland, indonesia, macau , Belgium, thailand and singapore

1) Ultimately wherever u are the most important point is Are you doing fine now ?
Is your present income more than your expenses ?
My colleague migrated from malaysia to perth aus ..Down grade her job n salary in the process. From being a senior financial executive to just a clerk…from earning
85,000 to just 24,000 in aus. ,,,,,!

2) have you read The world is Flat ? I can travel anywhere in the world for a small fee with Airasia and Scoot.. Not necessary to migrate

3) i have satellite tv astro, streamyx broadband at home here in. Malaysia, all five members of my family have acess to latest ipad, iphone ,latest tv n gadgets

4) we have sunshine all year round, i can speed skate , or surf the seas anytime,.
Hot . ? We had aircon at home n every car in malaysia has aircon too…same with our shopping..every family own not just one car but at least 2-4 local manufactured cars

5) same with shopping, u can shop till u drop in malaysia, opened from 10am to
10 pm. Our Pavilion shopping is voted by Mastercard is among the worlds best
And msia shopping is also voted among the world best.

6) our education system free until secondary, public university is still cheap, u just pay 3k per year, private u is of course like anywhere expensive.

7) public n private medical is still cheap. A visit to a local registered private clinic just cost u Ranges from rm20 to rm35 plus medication.

8)Food n goods here are among the cheapest in the world. Malaysia is rank among the cheapest place in the world to buy a mac burger according to burgernomics
The economist.com

9) Safety, like anywhere else in the world, u need to know where its safe and where its not. Stay in a close guarded community like myself with minimum monthly payment of just rm50 per month. .. Provided with guards round the clock 24 hours, and cars are given RFID cards. Our shopping are guarded, with boom barrier gates,
Cctv, crime rate is near to non existance in major shopping

10) parks are also provided with 2 guards like mine at seremban 2 , city park , safety is never an issue. Like anywhere else be aware of where u are heading

Wherever u come from, whatever the country, think first, travel to more countries first and experience more cultures first…THE WORLD IS FLAT nowdays, even in china, vietnam , malaysia , anywhere…

Dont be just the stereotypes….I am just a normal middle class malaysian, and we can easily afford gucci, pradas n so on. , we can wear the latest watches n nike n addidas..enjoy speed roadbikes..etc etc

There is no more the western countries

and the asian countries

I am asian, ….so we are just one big global family. 


BobinOz February 3, 2014 at 1:49 pm

Sounds fantastic, but you’ve given us all of the pros, where the cons?


Ginger February 2, 2014 at 4:44 am

Let me tell you something buddy. First of all that was the biggest load of xxxxxxxx I have ever read. you’re getting all this information from ‘Fred’ a man that you have never actually met, and you write it down as if it was fact when in reality it’s just someone’s undereducated biased opinion. Yes Australia does have its faults. Our country could benefit from a stricter government to make it a safer , but so could a lot of other places, and as for your comment of if you go to one of the public schools you will get raped? We’ll all I can say is put it up your xxxx you xxxxxx. And one last thing Australia is a very peaceful country, filled with plenty opportunities for anyone who wants them, anyone would be luck to able to call Australia their home. So xxxx you mate.


BobinOz February 3, 2014 at 5:49 pm

Wow, you are one angry dude Ginger. And you obviously didn’t read my comment policy, we simply don’t allow obscenities on this website, that’s why your comment was held in a queue for approval.

Normally I don’t bother, but this time I’ve gone through all the hassle of censoring out your foul language because you need to know that if you are talking to me, then you should try re-reading the post, you’ve obviously got the wrong end of the stick here. When you’ve done that, maybe you should try Googling ‘anger management’.

Love and peace man.


Zubang the sixth February 14, 2014 at 12:31 pm

My,my.You are just trying to sell your ebook.

Nah,Australia suck.


BobinOz February 15, 2014 at 9:40 pm

Do you mean the e-book that I give away for free?

Come on Zubang the sixth, keep up!


Kym Kelly-Taylor February 16, 2014 at 7:02 am

Trolls and idiots. They are infecting the net worldwide, Bob.



BobinOz February 17, 2014 at 5:09 pm

They never help anyone either, do they? They just whinge…


boo February 17, 2014 at 7:24 pm

I would love to migrate to oz with my family but are jobs are not on sol list ever xx love ur site all you ppl seem so nice xxx love from wet uk xx


BobinOz February 17, 2014 at 8:38 pm

Thank you boo, we are quite nice here, aren’t we? :-)


Jaii February 20, 2014 at 11:10 pm

I found the entire article one sided , yes Australia has a few negetives , which plac doesn’t ?
Anyho , I just wanted to get a few things of my chest, I love Australia and call it my home.I migrated here with my family 8 years ago , I have come across a few idiots here, but you can see racial abuse in india where south Indians are bashed at the north or vice versa.
End of the day “If you can be like Australians then you are welcome” attitude prevails here.If you open a can of beer and can take a joke the most bogan guy wouldn’t mind sharing a public bbq with you.
Yes we have natural disasters , but the government supports us well and we volunteer to help each other, mateship in staraya compensates for all this.
Australia is one country were the wages have decent standard and there isn’t much of a difference between the poor and the middle class in social standards , not taking housing locality into consideration.
Tell your mate to stop being a sook
and enjoy Aus for what it is , its beautiful in its own unique way.
Thanks for reading


BobinOz February 21, 2014 at 1:39 pm

Just to clear it up, Fred is not my mate, he contacted me once through my YouTube channel, we don’t watch the game together or go bowling every Wednesday :-)

I’ve been here six years, so I’m a couple behind you, but like yourself I now call this place home and I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.

Thanks for your comment, it’s appreciated, Bob


Layla (not Henry) February 25, 2014 at 8:49 pm

I just wanted to say the post by Barberode then by Henry, then Barberode again sticking up for his friend, made me laugh so much! 😀
Barberode and Henry – bless your cotton socks, I admire your determination.

But Barberode, your “opinions” are just that, opinions. No-one is saying Australia is the best and it’s a fact; they are simply saying in their opinion, they find it the best.
Have you tried living in New Zealand as well?
I have lived in both Aus and NZ. I can guarantee you, NZ has a higher cost of living here. I have also lived in the UK – and you think you have it rough in Australia?…..please.
There are just under 4 and a half million people in NZ and 648,000 of them have moved to and are living in Australia. And 40,000 more Kiwis move to Aus every year.
Australia might not be the best – but it’s obviously pretty dam good.
I’m just saying.


BobinOz February 26, 2014 at 12:45 am

I’m not sure if either of them are still monitoring this thread, obviously Henry has gone back to Germany :-)


Layla (not Henry) February 26, 2014 at 10:31 am

That’s a shame, I would’ve been really interested in what they had to say. (Ha).


kenozoik March 5, 2014 at 11:04 am

My wife and me moved to Sydney 5 months ago. I am still looking for employment, but luckily my wife found a job. Obviously I haven’t been around long enough to have a proper perception of Sydney, not to say Australia, and since I am unemployed I didn’t have much chance to meet and hang around with Australians. But still, some who are thinking of moving here might find what I have to say useful.

It seems to me that not all professions listed on the SOL list are really in shortage. For example I’m a software engineer and it seems to me that there is actually a shortage of jobs and surplus of qualified workers in the software market. Of course it depends on your specialization.

If you are not wealthy, or if you are coming from a poorer country, it is extremely costly to live here in Sydney. Rental prices are unbelievable. Groceries are pretty much affordable if you do most of your groceries in Aldi stores. The prices of vegetables are insane though. For example tomatoes are 6-8$/kg (in Coles)!

If you are planning on having kids, childcare centres charge between 80-130$ per day, per child. It turns out that it can be more expensive than the rent, which is generally considered the biggest expense.

Public transport in Sydney is decent, as long as you don’t depend on buses because of too much congestion on the roads. Trains are better than in Barcelona, a little bit worse than in Berlin. I find it pretty expensive, but we currently live on one my wife’s income and she’s earning barely enough to cover our basic expenses (she an early childhood educator, and it seems that there is a high demand for that profession, but the pay is not that good).

The weather is really nice here in Sydney, and it was rarely over 30 degrees Celsius this summer, I expected it to be considerably hotter than that. I don’t know about the winter, I haven’t been long enough here. There is much more rain than I expected, but statistically Sydney gets more rain annually than London so I guess it’s normal. And yes, it is really windy here, all the time.

Regarding beaches, I must admit they do look nice on pictures :) On the other hand, I must say that I am a little bit spoiled since I’m originally from Croatia. If you like sand, the ones that I’ve seen are all sandy, and you will be in haven. The waves are huge and it does make swimming a little bit difficult, but it’s perfect for surfing. I am not that afraid of the sharks, but I must say that knowing that they are somewhere out there does not make me feel at ease when I get a little bit further from the shore. In other words, the experience is not comparable to Adriatic beaches, but for some it might be a good thing.

All in all, I’m not sure if this was a good idea, but sadly, I didn’t have the chance to see much of Australia. I haven’t seen a kangaroo yet, but I eat them regularly, and they are tasty! It is essential that you know that you will be able to land a job here. Otherwise it is way too expensive. And one more thing, prior to moving here I checked various sites looking for average salaries, and I got the impression that 85000$ is a realistic salary for my line of work in Sydney. It’s more like 60000-65000$.

And Bob, it seems to me that you are a little bit biased in your opinions. When someone says something negative about Australia, you say that they should not generalize, but you are doing just that when you look at your specific situation in Brisbane and project that to Australia as a whole. You even suggest that people who experienced something negative might have made a mistake of not coming to Brisbane, Queensland.

It is true that every place has its pros and cons, and Australia is no different. It surely is not perfect. It is just a matter of finding out whether the pros outweigh the cons.

By the way, what do you do for living? It seems you had no problems with finding a job here. I am just curious.



BobinOz March 5, 2014 at 4:43 pm

Yes, it’s true to say that not all professions on the SOL are still in shortage, sometimes that list can be out of date.

Sydney is rather expensive, but as for the general cost of living I have written about that quite a lot and it does have to be looked at in conjunction with the above average wages here in Australia. Childcare fees vary a lot, and there is some assistance for those on lower incomes.

And yes, it is infinitely better in the current climate to try and secure work before you get here, the job situation isn’t as lively as it has been the past as I mentioned in my recent article about jobs in Australia.

As for bias, what is bias? I prefer living in Australia to England, is that bias? I prefer living in Brisbane to Sydney, is that bias? I don’t think it is, I think it’s just my opinion. This website is full of people giving their opinions which helps other people make their decisions.

When someone says something negative about Australia and I say they should not generalise, I think you are specifically referring to what I call ‘pigeonholing’. If someone says all Australians are lazy, for example, that’s a generalisation and a pigeonholing of an entire nation. That’s when I say that people should not generalise. If someone says I live in Sydney and I haven’t seen a kangaroo yet, then yes, I might say move to Brisbane and why shouldn’t I?

It’s my opinion.

I’ve had no problems finding a job here, because I’ve never looked. I work for myself, as does my wife, we both have separate limited companies and we run a third company as a partnership between us.

Hope things cheer up for you down in Sydney and you find work soon, if not, try Brisbane :-)

Cheers, Bob


kenozoik March 6, 2014 at 10:30 am

Of course it is not bias if you prefere living in Australia to England, but it is bias when you are inclined to look mostly at positive sides of living here.

It is understandable considering your position, and you are not doing it on purpose, but saying that the only reasons you could come up for someone not to come down here are if their favorite hobby is history/archeology or if they are allergic to golden sandy beaches gives an impression that there are no other problems one could encounter here.

Securing a job in Australia from overseas is not an easy task. And even if you do succeed you may end up with an less than average wage.

Regarding childcare and assistance for families with lower income, I never thought that we would fall into that category when we first decided to move here, but it is quite possible that we would, even if I had a job. If that will indeed be the case I would have no other option but to say that we had a much better life back in Croatia. It is too soon for making such conclusions, but it is something that crosses my mind now and then.

Btw, we first thought of moving to Brisbane, but decided for Sydney instead because there were too few jobs for me in Brisbane. Once we came I ended up looking for work all over Australia because it turned out there were not as many in Sydney either. At least not for someone with an engineering profile anyway. Who knows, I may still end up in Brisbane :)

And don’t get me wrong, I think you are doing a great job here with this site, I to have looked at some of the information here prior to moving to Australia, I just wanted to emphasize the problems, especially on this thread where most of the people replying seem to need it to be that great. It might be, but than again it might not.



BobinOz March 7, 2014 at 12:52 am

I was very amused that you said “It is understandable considering your position…”

What is my position?

I’ll tell you. My position is that I moved here from England after living in that country for 49 and a 1/2 years and I now absolutely love Australia. It’s been a life changer for me.

I was so blown away by the move, that I decided to start writing about it on this website. That’s my position.

The history/archaeology and golden sandy beaches thing, that’s just humour, it’s not serious. It was just my way of introducing this article which, incidentally, highlights somebody else’s idea of everything that is horrible about Australia.

You say I only look on the positive sides of living here, sorry, but I think you are mistaking me for a glossy magazine, the tourist industry or the government. It may surprise you to hear that quite a few people have praised me for actually talking about Australia’s bad things (I had a whole category on that) in which I talk about snakes, spiders, death, drowning, swimming between the flags, (so as not to drown) cyclones, bushfires, horrendous weather, hopeless politicians and so much more.

I didn’t get to be the age I am now without becoming a grumpy old man, and the last thing anyone can accuse me of is only looking at the positives of life in Australia or life anywhere.

Yesterday’s article on my blog, for example, talked about the horrendous price of calling someone out to fix a domestic appliance. Did the government tell you about that? Or a glossy magazine?

No, it was me.

All that said, I really do feel for you kenozoik, this country isn’t a great place to be when you can’t find work, especially when you came here to make a better life for yourself. Getting a job is a problem in most countries these days and it was easier to do here a few years ago than it is now. Once you do find work though, and I’m sure you will do, life will get better. Even if you have to come to Brisbane for that to happen :-)

Cheers, Bob


Lee November 1, 2014 at 6:30 pm


Anyone in their right mind would prefer Brisbane over Sydney, infact every other city in Australia is far better than Sydney.

The best thing in Sydney are the roads leading out of it.

Kind Regards



BobinOz November 3, 2014 at 5:14 pm

I know, that’s why I live in Brisbane.


Christian Narvaez March 5, 2014 at 10:54 pm

Hi Bob,

I could not resist to reply about that thing in generalise/pigeonholing. I do not understand why generalise is wrong according to you?? imposible to give an opinion about a country or culture without generalise, which is an exercise of finding patterns and take an average view. Absolutely impossible assest every single individual of millions of people of a nation. Otherwise you could never say things like ‘Brazileans like dancing’ or ‘Nordics are good for designing’. Because probably are bad brazileans dancers and bad nordic designers….but are common sense statements.
The same when I say that Australian people are ‘Superficial’ comparing with Europeans. In my experience; most of my friends end up being europeans, because I find very hard establish an interesting, cultural conversation with Australians. I find that their interests are a lot around sports, food, tv shows, house renovation , outdoors, or simply have fun. While europeans have ‘deeper’ interests such as social affairs , politics, etc…….and yes…there are many deep/thoughful aussies and also superficial europeans….but, it is an perception based on observation of patterns..common sense.
I agreed with Kenozoik’s complain that your opinions are sometimes a bit biased. I understand that you are in love with Brisbane…but for many others simply this city does not work, like in my case. I think is wrong recommending Brisbane as a ‘Panacea’. At the end the city soul must match with the person’s personality.
The good of Australia is that there are cities for each ‘type of personality’ and ‘interests’ .
Let’s say that; For people that appreciate easy life, slow pace and good weather, but does not care about career, culture or entretainment, then Brissy is the place.
For people that culture, entretainment and modernity are importantent, but does not care much about weather, then Melbourne is the place for them.
For people that cares about career, cosmopolitan environment, challenges, entretainment, but does not care about house size, longer commuting; then should call Sydney home.

Apologies for the negative comments. I really love Australia which in my opinion is the best country for living for people that does not care much about loosing Culture/History or other cons that I have tried to number.
And also think you do a GREAT job maintaining this portal with very handy info for the potential migrant (actually I used for myself before migrating); but I think the opinion on this sort of forums/web portals must be as much ‘Neutral’ as possible and present an ‘holistic’ view.
Very varied type people with different backgrounds, personalities, interests and goals use it as reference for very important decisions, and all Pros/Cons must be very clearly presented (unbiased) otherwise can mislead people in some life changing decisions.

In spite of this, I would say…Long live Bob in Oz :)


Layla Turner March 6, 2014 at 6:55 am

If you think Australia has no culture, you are living with blinkers on. Ever heard of Aboriginal culture?
If you want European culture, then Europe IS the place for you, granted they have a longer and richer history than “younger” countries like Australia and NZ.
But Australia isn’t Europe and if you’re living in Australia, you have to take what you can get.
I worked for a native title body in Western Australia, I learnt lots about indigenous people and their culture. You’re obviously not looking hard enough for it.
That’s just my opinion.


Christian Narvaez March 6, 2014 at 8:22 am

Hi Layla,
I meant ‘rich’/milenian culture of the type of not only Europeans, also Asians, Middle East and some Africans. I apreciate australian aboriginal culture, but let’s be honest that does not have the same richness of the previously named and does not differ much from others aboriginal/islanders cultures of the world.
And my opinions differs from Bob’s one, I think you must not be an Historian for enjoying culture. For me the value of rich culture and history is that it leaves an imprint in people’s personality and interests, it is not only about old churches or things like that, it is about some behavioural legacy, maybe a sociologist could explain us.
What I state is that Australia has so many good things that have been broadly covered in this website. But in order to be more informative need to also present the negatives, trying to aim a broader target of different people from different background and interests, certainly are negatives, is not it? . It is too easy and too politicaly correct always say that everything is wonderful, perfect and shiny, that sometimes it can confused by commercial ads and lose credibility.



Layla Turner March 6, 2014 at 10:01 am

Yes I agree,in order to make an informed decision, one must have all the “facts”.
But no-one said Australia was perfect and shiny.
And this website DOES discuss some of the negatives and challenges, faced by some migrants moving here.
But we don’t dwell on them, we try to put a positive spin on things and offer positive alternatives when problems are being encountered.


BobinOz March 7, 2014 at 12:16 am

Christian, there is an old joke:

Heaven Is Where:

The French are the chefs
The Italians are the lovers
The British are the police
The Germans are the mechanics
And the Swiss make everything run on time

Hell is Where:

The British are the chefs
The Swiss are the lovers
The French are the mechanics
The Italians make everything run on time
And the Germans are the police

Yes, we all know that the Germans are very good mechanics, they produce Mercedes, Audi and BMW. Superior cars for sure. But it is the companies that make the cars, the people who work in those companies, maybe they aren’t all Germans? Maybe some are, dare I say it, French?

The world has changed over the years, everyone is living in everyone else’s country, Europe has almost no borders, there is no room for pigeonholing anymore.

When you say Australian people are ‘superficial’ compared with Europeans, are you including me? I’m an Australian, but I spent nearly 50 years in Europe and I got about a bit. Or are you now going to say I’m not an Australian, not really? So maybe the other 25% who were not born here and who now have Australian citizenship, you want to exclude those from your ‘superficial’ classification?

So, that just leaves the born and bred Australians. Are they really the ‘superficial’ ones? Well, we can discount politicians, can’t we, because the ability to talk about politics and social affairs, which according to you means that somebody isn’t superficial.

What about Australians (born and bred) that have
travelled extensively around Europe or any of the other continents, are they less superficial? If so, do we discount them from the list?

Do you see what a slippery slope this is?

Taking this a little further Christian, if you stay in Australia, a country which you say you love long enough to become an Australian citizen, does that mean you become ‘superficial’?

Barberode said that as soon as you mention negative things about Australia to an Australian they will not talk to you anymore. That’s pigeonholing. Yourself, with your ‘superficial’ remarks, that’s pigeonholing.

Enough already, I stand by what I say about pigeonholing.

As for Brisbane being a panacea, it may be my preferred place of residence, but it’s no panacea. There are thousands and thousands of comments on this website, I’m involved and reply to almost all of them. If you check thoroughly you will see that I do not recommend Brisbane to everyone. I recommend what I think will suit their situation, whether it be Sydney, Hobart, the Gold Coast, Melbourne or anywhere else in Australia.

When people say “I don’t like the weather in Melbourne” or “it’s too expensive in Sydney” or “Perth is too remote” or “I haven’t seen a kangaroo”, then yes, I do say try Brisbane.

Nothing wrong with that.

One thing I do agree with you though, that’s long live Bob in OZ :-)


rahman March 7, 2014 at 1:01 am

I am a new visitor to your site. You have an amazing wealth of information about Australia. Though I have a feeling that you are a bit biased in mentioning the pros of Australia than cons. But still no issue. It is good to be loyal to the country which is giving you the most important thing in life – happiness.


BobinOz March 8, 2014 at 12:10 am

The ‘bias’ accusation has already been answered a couple of times above. Especially in this bit from a few comments back…

You say I only look on the positive sides of living here, sorry, but I think you are mistaking me for a glossy magazine, the tourist industry or the government. It may surprise you to hear that quite a few people have praised me for actually talking about Australia’s bad things (I had a whole category on that) in which I talk about snakes, spiders, death, drowning, swimming between the flags, (so as not to drown) cyclones, bushfires, horrendous weather, hopeless politicians and so much more.


Layla Turner March 7, 2014 at 6:47 am

Hmmm….after reading these last few replies, I suspect a Barberode/Henry situation going on here…


BobinOz March 8, 2014 at 12:11 am

No, these are definitely three different people, for sure. But they all have one thing in common low, they think I’m biased :-)


Sara March 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm

Have been here now for a year, having emigrated from Somerset ( twinned with Atlantis) No regrets. My 3 children loving it. My husband loving it. My Cat and Dog are loving it. A much easier lifestyle, can be expensive, but is still affordable. The Australians I have met could not have been more welcoming or supportive. My only question really is what took us so long to come over!
No place is perfect, but reading all the comments previously, I would say that Australia has offered us a much better lifestyle than we ever could achieve in the UK. Any yes the beaches are wonderful!


BobinOz March 20, 2014 at 12:04 am

Hi Sara

It’s probably a bit late to say it, but I’ll say it all the same, welcome to Australia.

Sounds like you are loving it is much as I am here and I can’t disagree with anything you have said. Like yourself, I think the Australian lifestyle is hard to beat.

Obviously not everybody agrees, but that’s why we are having so much fun here on this post :-)

Cheers, Bob


djmcbell March 29, 2014 at 1:21 am

10 reasons why not to move to the UK:

1 – no sun. Want to develop a vitamin D deficiency or rickets? The UK is the place! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9698670/Britains-bad-summer-will-see-epidemic-of-vitamin-deficiency-expert.html (okay, don’t take that one too seriously).

2 – pests. Yeah, we don’t get snakes and evil giant spiders. We do get loads of wasps though from time to time. Plus the people. Okay again, don’t take too seriously.

3 – people. Enough said. Again, not too seriously.

4 – cost of life. Lots of things have increased. I was going to take a train trip today for business but refused to pay the price – £250 for a return down south! I paid less for a flight to Paris, train tickets there and 3 nights in a pretty good hotel!

5 – location. Okay, nothing I can say on this one, if you’re in the UK chances are everything is reasonably convenient. Except Australia. So that’s a negative – the UK isn’t close enough to Australia. That one’s a bit of a joke.

6 – health care. Unless you ring at 8am precisely, good luck trying to see a GP (at our local doctor in any case). And also, as someone I know had a few years ago, a 5-hour wait WHILST ACTIVELY MISCARRYING, whilst other people (including a drunk escorted by police) got seen first. This actually is not a joke and did happen. I love the fact that we’ve got the NHS and I appreciate the people who work in it, but it does seem some of the management are idiots.

7 – roads. Pot holes everywhere and in some cases councils aren’t bothering to fix them, instead using them as a speed deterrent. That one is serious, or at least when I heard of it. In any case, there are rather a lot of pot holes.

8 – education. Can’t honestly answer on this one, but recently in the news a school in Leeds is now teaching kids “English as a foreign language” because kids who’ve never spoken English before far outweigh the English speakers.

9 – housing. We’ve got an alright house, plenty of storage space, but home ownership is going right down because prices are increasing and pay isn’t.

10 – crime. Recently my area (still an alright area of the city) has had a fair number of stabbings and a shooting, most of these fatal. I’ve been going home through the city late at night and on one occasion had two separate groups of lads try and start on me – thankfully I eluded them in the first case and in the second ducked into a restaurant and called a taxi.

11 – bonus reason. I must admit I’m getting a bit tired of the endless, damp-looking greenery of the British countryside. I know that the grass would simply hide the mud that would be all over my shoes if I dared tread on it. Besides which, it looks cold and grey…


Kamma March 29, 2014 at 3:34 am

You actually should take that first one seriously. Vitamin D is used to convert calcium into bone, which means you can drink all the milk you want, but your skeleton will still be made of jelly because you’re not getting enough vitamin D. You can get around this by eating fat fish, light therapy, and traveling down south. Northern Europeans have much worse bone quality than they should have due to the grey skies.


BobinOz March 31, 2014 at 1:38 pm

Thanks for the list djmcbell, good to see you took the time to include a bonus reason as well, just like Fred :-)

Sounds like you want to move to Australia and catch some of our natural vitamin D which, as Kamma has pointed out, is pretty important. We get around 300 vitamin D days each year down here; nice!

Cheers, Bob


Dilip Devdas Kumari April 13, 2014 at 4:36 am

Australia might be a good place to live….if you have white skin. In my experience, having lived in both Australia and the US, Australia is MUCH more racist.

Walking down the street or taking a bus in Melbourne with brown skin is a horrible experience with nasty glares, hostile muttered comments, and outright challenges from racist bogans. I guess you have never asked non-white Australians about their experiences though, have you? I have never experienced these kinds of racist moments in the US. I find Americans to be much more pleasant and toleran people.

By the way, please ask an Aboriginal about Australia? Better yet, ask them what they think of Australia Day. Did you know that hunting of Aboriginals was legal in Australia up into the 1960’s??


Layla (not Henry) April 14, 2014 at 12:47 pm

Sorry to hear of your racist experience in Australia.
Racism is a nasty condition that is prevalent all over the world, in many countries. I agree, it is unacceptable and there is a lot of racial tension in Australia.
I do believe the government are aware of the problems regarding this and are trying to improve the situation.
I myself am white, I’m also originally from the UK. And when I worked in WA, I worked for an Native Title corporation, helping indigenous groups claim native title over land that rightfully belonged to them.
We’re not all bad.
Sometimes the bad appears to outweigh the good and gets noticed more, but the good is out there.
Racism is one of those horrible things we wish we could get rid of forever, everywhere in the world. Like wasps. :)


BobinOz April 14, 2014 at 5:55 pm

Racism is indeed a horrible thing but I would like to point out that I have asked non-white Australians about their experiences and they have told me what they think in my post called Is Australia Racist?

I’ve also been to Melbourne very recently, this year actually, and I can assure you that it is a very multicultural city. Maybe one of the most multicultural cities in the world as suggested in my post Multiculturalism in Melbourne: From the Multicultural Festival.

The city is absolutely brimming with non-whites, so, according to you, there would be a huge amount of “nasty glares, hostile muttered comments, and outright challenges from racist bogans”, so much so that it would be impossible not to notice it constantly every day.

But guess what? I never saw anything that came even close to what you are suggesting. Not one single incident in seven days.

And as for “hunting of Aboriginals was legal in Australia up into the 1960′s…” – what exactly does the word ‘hunting’ mean in this instance? Are you really suggesting white people were allowed to roam the streets with guns shooting aboriginals? Or are you using a completely misleading word to describe the “Integration policy” of the 60s?

Dilip, you are making accusations that simply aren’t true.


JP November 20, 2014 at 2:05 pm

I think this site is very helpful. I am considering a move to Australia and I have found the comments to be the most helpful of all because you can see multiple viewpoints.

I had to comment on this particular post because I feel that you can’t claim to know what it is like to walk through a city as an individual who is part of a minority that is looked down upon in the said city, unless you have actually been in their situation…and to tell a person that they didn’t experience racism is insensitive. Especially as a white guy in a predominantly white population, where being white is considered superior. (and please don’t go off on how I can’t possibly know that white people consider themselves superior in Oz. As a rule, wherever white people are the majority, white people consider themselves superior. It just seems to be an ingrained part of our European heritage) The only way you can justify having an opinion as to whether or not Dilip experienced racism is if you have gone to Melbourne with dark skin and lived in the city as a minority. Not visited there for seven days very recently as a white man.

Being a white woman in the US, I also cannot claim to know what it is like to have people treat me badly based only on my skin color, but my Brother In Law is an African American man in a predominantly white state and I have seen people mistreat him based purely on his dark skin… even people who are supposedly friends of the family (or even family for that matter) and it is disgusting to say the least. It seems that people don’t even know they are doing it unless they are called out on it. There is nothing more disheartening to me than to see someone mistreated because their skin is a different color than what is considered “ideal” to societal norms and honestly it hacks me off. If you haven’t been in the persons exact situation you really can’t say you know what their experience has been…no matter how awesome you think Australia is.

With that being said, I am not sure I could handle living there if the racism is worse than in the US because I would be causing trouble all of the time! :/


BobinOz November 20, 2014 at 5:32 pm


At no point whatsoever did I “claim to know what it is like to walk through a city as an individual who is part of a minority that is looked down upon in the said city” or did I tell Dilip that she “didn’t experience racism”.

Please reread my answer.

Thanks, Bob


louisa klimentos February 11, 2015 at 9:06 am

No racicism in America? Wfat a load of rubbish.When i was in Long Island USA my cousin said ,don’t go in that shop because it is run by white people.I didn’t care ,the cloths looked rather nice and the people in there were much more helpful than the white people.To tell me Australia is more racist is not true.Go visit New Jersey and see for yourself


Borninperth April 27, 2014 at 12:00 am

Wow that was a long read. I am amazed at how many responses there’s been to this article/ blog post. I came to this site through a search for something on moving cities as am contemplating a move. Having read this it makes me think that a place is largely what you make of it. Cost of housing & groceries & eating out have definitely risen significantly in Perth over the past decade, however, this really means that we all just have to reassess our purchasing decisions- live the next cheapest suburb out or in a slightly smaller place, buy less expensive snacks etc etc Or move cities, of course, if the grass is looking greener. Being a born and bred Perthite with Australian parents just thought I’d provide a little info on living in Australia for any thinking about moving here. It’s generally a positive place, the weather allows a lot of time outside, there’s stunning scenery, the bigger cities are modern & fairly clean but tend (esp Perth) to be very spread out with suburban sprawl over 100kms now in Perth. There is some racism & crime- but how much you’re exposed to will depend where you go & live. It is a long way from many other countries. It can be expensive. There are quite a lot of short-sighted, narrow-minded politicians and people who vote them in. There’s also some terrible social history as well as current issues (eg Aboriginal health & education, refugee detention etc ).

The north (Broome, Darwin, Cairns & around) is really worth visiting to see something different and to experience the talked about ‘laid back culture’. I have a view that Australians tend to view our society as young and not yet ‘proven’ in the eyes of the UK and the US, which I think sometimes fuels some of the more reactionary rather than thought out behaviours. All in all I think Perth is a fantastic place to live- wonderful beaches, beautiful nature-based holiday locations nearby, great weather (albeit a bit cold & wet in winter for me), a big enough city to have a huge range of interesting people, excellent schools & universities, good employment opportunities, good health services, a range of entertainment options, safe, good for bike riding, picnicking, sailing, walking, windsurfing, swimming… I lived in the south of England for 2 years and, although I adored the beautiful old buildings, thatched cottages, country vilages and gorgeous green grass, I could not continue living somewhere that had me seeing no sunlight on Winter work days and where it never really got hot enough to swim for me. I do miss the country pubs and the English beer.


BobinOz April 27, 2014 at 9:35 pm

Well, BorninPerth, I don’t think there’s anything you’ve said that I disagree with. And yes, I do miss the country pubs and the English beer as well, but not enough to go back there.

I’ve not been to Perth yet, it’s still on my list of things to do, but what you say about it can pretty much apply to many cities here, certainly to mine, Brisbane.

Thanks for taking your time to tell us what you think of Australia, I think you’ve pretty much got it spot on. Good on ya, as we say :-)

Cheers, Bob


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Mali June 16, 2014 at 1:41 pm

Hi, I have lived and studied in OZ for two and a half years and for the record “unless you are drunk, drug addict, lazy, a cheat and to young to know any better, go in Australia only to see what the world should not become”, the most funny part of all is when I asked some of the Aussies have you been to Europe, the answer is: “yes, I have been to UK, Ireland, Scotland and then I went to Paris and back to Australia” (thats nice! you have traveled Europe), just don’t get me wrong beside stupid and rude people (who have so many different cultures in their country and know only english) poor economy, astronomical prices and bad schooling system Australia is a nice place the beaches are beautiful!


BobinOz June 16, 2014 at 8:26 pm

Congratulations Mali, you have managed to cram in quite a list of insults and incorrect information in a comparatively short space.

You talk of “stupid and rude people” which are personality traits I think you know quite a lot about. Fortunately nobody in their right mind will take your comments seriously, not when you describe Australia’s economy as poor.

Cheers, Bob


Mali June 16, 2014 at 10:06 pm

I’m not going to argue with you it’s your country and it is absolutely natural that you defend it, maybe you are ok, however you would be one of the rare ones…every time that I had to deal with Aussie people I ended *fuc.. Not only traits, I had good experiences with WOGS only…sorry but Aussie nation is mostly racist and they even don’t know why….


BobinOz June 18, 2014 at 12:19 am

I really don’t know whether to shake my head in disbelief at your comment or laugh like a drain. I usually edit out derogatory terms and profanity even if it does include a *, but I’m going to make an exception for you and leave it in.

I want people to decide for themselves who’s stupid and/or racist.


Mali June 16, 2014 at 10:15 pm

As for economy the only thing working very good is gas and cole mines unfortunately no one take this seriously and then they end up as cleaners in surfers paradise cleaning all the messes from tourists having good time, as i said as tourist destination Australia is super for any thing else you have to have a rich uncle… believe if you want to if not good luck


Layla June 17, 2014 at 5:41 pm

These people you talk of, who ……”end up as cleaners in Surfers Paradise cleaning up all the messes from tourists having good time”….. – is this your specific, personal experience? As this isn’t generally what happens to people that move to Australia.
Sounds like your opinion is tainted from, what I suspect is, a bitter, personal experience.
All your comments are incorrect and your opinions are just that, opinions. Your facts have no supporting evidence.


Mali June 17, 2014 at 7:55 pm

You just proved my point, so you are saying that in general, people that want to move to Australia end up as cleaners? That is a very inviting argument :) Oo yea and this also applies for students…you can protect the honor of Australia as much as you want, the bottom line will always be Australian people are not welcoming to the people that want to stay except if you have enough money to buy your way in…I have also noticed that Aussie are the only one that argue with me…once again people, and i am telling this to all non Australians: Australia is beautiful if you go there for a vacation…to answer your question I have diploma of business, diploma of business management, diploma for dealing with high voltage and Australian qualification for remedial massage therapy all together more than 16 years of schooling and this is the only country that people treated me with no respect and because no Aussie would take me i ended up cleaning…well congrads you have created a perfect idiot breeding environment


Layla June 17, 2014 at 11:40 pm

Two points.
1) I didn’t ask what your qualifications were. And considering all the qualifications you have, you really should have taken one in English Language, because you didn’t understand what I wrote at all did you? You were the one that mentioned “ending up as cleaners” – not me.
2) I’m not Australian. Yet I’m still disagreeing with you.

I guess its not just the Aussies that don’t like you – its everyone.
Maybe you should stop trolling the internet, with your bitter and twisted, the world is against me attitude. Then maybe people would like you.


Mike November 20, 2014 at 12:02 am

Where i work we have 46 engineers from sri lanka India and pakistan 7 from african nations 12 from china…the cleaners in our building….white Australians now i could make a general comment based on that experience but i will resist the urge..


James June 17, 2014 at 4:48 pm

First of all your not australian,
Australians aren’t pests the ‘outsiders’ from other countries are because they don’t live here so they’re the ones swarming in oz. So what we have native spiders and other ‘rodents’ but it’s nature, it’s not like your country doesn’t have some form of pest. also cost of life- just because someone thinks something it doesn’t mean it’s true. Health care- we have a great health care system, you said dentists have crazy cost, yea they have crazy cheap costs. Not all waiting times are expensive….education- no one gets f$&king raped at night because we have a good security and we get a really good education… Look at Hugh jackman he is famous because of the education he’s received. Housing- so what if some of our homes are still old because it’s our history/heritage and we do get new houses, Australia is upgrading to become more technological than other places. Crime- our government is very strict, teens don’t attack old people because why would they do that and plus it’s more stupid adults either drunk or on drugs that do it.

I recommend you visit oz so u can enjoy the sites and sounds, culture and authentic food and enjoy things you’ve never seen before. Some places are cleaner than others but still. If we were recommended not to move here why are there still over 22 million + people still living here. This Fred guy is wrong it’s just lies and what you think so instead of sharing your stupid opinions, keep it to yourself or as people say keep your opinions to yourself. To finish up Australia is the 2nd most liveable country to live in so bugger off mate…


James June 17, 2014 at 4:58 pm


Australia has one of the best beaches in the world and some stupid little blog isnt going to stop people, from visiting if they choose to read some blog about Australia it should be from an Australian.


BobinOz June 18, 2014 at 12:30 am

Right, said Fred.

Well, he never bothers to answer.


Candy June 18, 2014 at 1:42 am

Are you *ucking Kidding Me ?????!!?? I’ve been reading all posts and I can’t believe that some people are so damn stupid!!! Of course for Aussies this is the best country because no other country will give them job and money for doing nothing (like centrelink ) 😀 😀 as far as I know ,and I know a quite bit because I cross more than half of the Planet Earth and this is definitely Country for lazy,dummies or like they say Bogan people ,perfect society on the right way to idiocracy . One of my favorite is the recent documentary for legalisation of medical cannabis when the ministry of health was giving advice to a patient in terminal cancer stage that he should not use cannabis because he can get lung cancer ???? I couldn’t believe is this really happening ??? BTW … Aussies have issue with all nations they think they are better than Europeans ,Asians, American and all other nations and they are just trying so hard to copy Americans especially . You should be greatful and thank God every day for giving you a chance to live on Aboriginal land full with natural riches & resources, without that you are nothing and you’ll always be BOGANS at the end of the tail !!! God Bless all and GOD Bless USA !!!!


BobinOz June 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm

What a huge coincidence.

Despite both Mali and Candy being world wise global travellers, turns out they are both based in Sydney. Can’t tell for sure they are the same person as one comment was made through a mobile phone and the other through the regular Internet.

But there are more coincidences though; both use smiley faces, both have a penchant for using one of our worst expletives disguised with an asterix, both absolutely hate Australians, both say Australians are lazy, both also claim Australians are stupid and racist and yet both of them appear to be quite stupid and racist themselves.

Surely Mali and Candy are not the same person? Who would be so stupid as to try and backup his own argument with another one of his own arguments? Well, other than Barberode/Henry.

The only real difference between the two is that Candy has used an opayq email address – “Opayq.com is a domain used for Masked Emails…”

Now who’s kidding who?

Give it a rest Mali, the more comments you make the more ridiculous you sound. And if you include any more expletives in any of your comments, asterix or not, you will be banned.



Layla June 18, 2014 at 2:44 pm



Mali June 18, 2014 at 4:02 pm

Hah believe or not thats not me I guess I’m not the only one with opinion like that and who can hide their IP…well I’m going to leave you and your wife Layla to it have a nice day


Layla June 20, 2014 at 3:12 pm

:) :) 😀
Bob you have two wives!


BobinOz June 20, 2014 at 11:20 pm

Apparently, but I don’t know whether to laugh or cry or hand myself into the police :-)


Fred June 23, 2014 at 7:30 am

Hi Bob,
Long time no hear!
As you know my website was shut down because of complaints from some patriotic heroes. After that I uploaded 3 youtube video on the same subject which made headlines. However, today I have deleted all the videos myself without any one asking me to do so! Why? Because now I realized that I need to close the issue. I received many responses from many different nationalities; some said thank you, others said **** you! I have no time to discuss which country is best. I found that it is just a personal preference (if you could do it). I think a country is not just nature and economics, equally important is the people you know and so on.
My problem in Oz was that I had a cultural shock because of the differences between my expectations and reality. I have not experienced any type of crime in Oz. Let me go back and modify my “previous” top 10 reasons not to migrate to Oz! as I think they apply to most countries;
1- UV radiation exists everywhere! Come on, are you that soft! Or maybe you are afraid to become dark and girls like you more!
2- Anybody mentioned insects and spiders? They are lovely and good company too.
3- Teenagers? So shy and polite.
4- Cost of life is crazy? Ask the bankers and the stupid slave consumers.
5- Location of Oz? Good to be far from the old world and centuries-old conflicts. It may not be important for most of the world population because they can’t afford international travel or they don’t even have passports!
6- Health care is good everywhere because of generous doctors and kind insurance companies.
7- Let’s face it, when you are stingy, building a sophisticated road network is not the highest priority.
8- Lately, the government of Oz has raised the cost of uni education, this will make it more like the states. About on-campus rapes, to avoid it, stop being attractive!
9- There‘s no such thing called Housing crisis, it is just a game played by the merciful banks and the honest builders for your own benefit.
10- Crimes are so rare because of wise government policies of treating criminals softly and actually encouraging them to commit more crimes by making the prison a nice place or even eliminating the jail and just asking for “community service”.
11- Being a dry place is not worse than being a wet place.
12- Where can you find a good air quality these days anyway? People need more jobs and ready to sacrifice trees.
13- Everywhere, you can buy any car you like as long as your finances are healthy enough!
If you ask me whether I want to go back to Oz or elsewhere, I would say that I am content where I am now even though it is not perfect.
Sorry for making it too long.


BobinOz June 24, 2014 at 12:11 am

Ah, Fred, there you are, nice to hear from you again. And it’s good to see that you are still one of the world’s best when it comes to writing incredibly stupid lists. Your new list, in a totally different way, is probably as ridiculous as your original list.

Well done!

I don’t think it will get the same vitriolic reaction as your original list, and clearly nobody is going to believe you’ve had a change of heart over Australia, I think your sarcasm is all too clear to see.

But I do want to thank you for providing such a controversial post for me and I think you have managed to anger and amuse people in equal measure.

So keep up the list writing if you can and hope to see you bounce back on YouTube sometime soon.

Cheers, Bob


Hollie November 18, 2014 at 11:08 am

Hi, just really quickly. Just a few points in reply here..

I just want to point out that Tasmania (still technically part of Australia) has some of the cleanest air in the world. We have laws that protect the trees and old growth forests, to the detriment of expanding the growth of the state but still.

Australia has bugs. Big deal? So does everywhere else on the planet.
Australia is the single most expensive place to be educated yes as for being raped.. I’m female, I went to university and so did all of my friends. Not a single raping occurred.
The roads are not in brick format unlike the majority of the US its true but we work with the land fall not carving it up.
The quality of roads are being improved all the time, but we do deal with some of the harshest environmental climates in the world, it takes a toll.

As for our criminal demographic. The judicial system is not perfect. Nothing on earth is. The jails are overcrowded and other systems are put into place for lesser offenders. Quite obviously we do not have a utopian society here and to think otherwise is highly ignorant of you.

If you can afford to move to Australia you xan most likely afford to travel overseas .. maybe not every weekend like European citizens might but certainly you can in fact leave the place.

Many Australian citizens have never left, they feel no need. Many others, especially amongst the younger generation, travel frequently.

I would suggest travelling extensively around this beautiful land before condemning it.
And still if you dont like it. . Please leave.. we have watery boarders for a reason. =)

Have a fantastic day!!


BobinOz November 18, 2014 at 8:09 pm

None of you were raped at University Hollie? Really? Next you’ll be telling us that teenagers don’t attack old people all the time :-)

Cheers, Bob


Fred June 24, 2014 at 4:10 am

Nice to hear from you Bob. Amusing people is a good thing and angering them is not my purpose. If they get angry, it proves their intolerance. My comments can be ridiculous for some, however, only the super smart appreciate them.


Kym June 24, 2014 at 7:57 am

hehehe Only the super smart appreciate them…… Oh look! The emperor has no clothes on! cheers Kym


BobinOz June 24, 2014 at 6:33 pm

“…however, only the super smart appreciate them.” – Priceless!

You really should have joined this discussion earlier Fred, because you are right, amusing people is a good thing and you sure can be amusing.

Obviously I’m very happy living here in Australia and you say you’re very happy where you are, I think the rest of us would love to know what planet that is?

Cheers, Bob


Ryder July 30, 2015 at 4:42 pm

Hello there. My name is Ryder and I live in Texas, and I just wanted to make this one comment after reading this very entertaining thread.

I have been interested in Australia for a long time now, and am still considering moving there if (when) things go downhill over here in the US. Lol. But I wanted to say this: I agree with you Bob, Fred’s comments are indeed humorous, and his “lists” are ridiculous. I highly doubt ANY of that information is correct, though I can’t say with 100% confirmation that it’s not, since I don’t live there and have never visited. However, it does not appear that Fred is really causing anyone any harm or trouble (though I never had a chance to view his blogs or YouTube so maybe there was something I missed). Fred has his own opinions, and you have yours; we all have opinions, and it is in our rights to have them. Sure, if he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, then he has NO right to make a “list” about it, but he’s entitled to his opinion, whether we like it or not.

That being said… I mentioned that I am interested in Australia. I have seen in some of your comments Bob that Brisbane is one of the nicest places in Australia? I’m just curious; I’ve never actually heard the opinion of someone from Australia, so I wouldn’t know. Thank you very much!

– Ryder


BobinOz July 30, 2015 at 7:07 pm

Yes, my view too. If we let opinions like those of Fred’s annoy us and make as angry then we are wasting a wonderful opportunity to have a jolly good laugh. Who knew when I put this post up way back that it would cause so much of a mixed reaction.

Some people come on here absolutely livid with Fred, others find it funny, and then we have that third strange group of people that agree with him. Above all though, we’ve had a heck of a lot of fun.

And it’s all thanks to Fred, yet still none of us really know for sure whether he made these comments seriously or not. Fascinating :-)

Thanks Ryder, maybe see you in Australia sometime soon.


Mali June 24, 2014 at 4:18 pm

Oo Bob you are amusing really, just a small advice next time if you don’t want people to talk bad about YOUR country DO NOT start a subject with 10 REASONS WHY NOT TO MOVE TO AUSTRALIA, again this is a blog about why NOT to move to Australia not about: I will defend my country against all that are saying bad thing about Australia.
Hail Fred


BobinOz June 24, 2014 at 7:45 pm

You’re giving me advice on how to run my website? Now that really is funny, just not as funny as Fred.


Layla June 25, 2014 at 9:10 am

ACTUALLY, the blog is called “Bob In OZ – What it’s really like to live in Australia”. Only the post is called “10 Reasons not to move to Australia”, not the entire blog.
Now, this is supposed to be a comment thread for people to comment on the subject of the post, not an opportunity for trolling, or insulting people’s blogging abilities.
And Fred….your website was shut down because of complaints, so I think you are the LAST person who should be preaching and you’re a waste of much needed IPv4 space.


Ron June 24, 2014 at 11:57 pm

Give the place a miss, especially Darwin & the NT – over rated and over priced.


Mali June 25, 2014 at 1:52 am



Mali June 25, 2014 at 2:02 am

And unless your name is Google stop acting like you know everything, some people went through different experiences and know different things…


BobinOz June 25, 2014 at 4:15 pm

Oh dear. Mali has now resorted to hurling insults like some kind of drunk.

Bad boy Mali!

Mali, please observe my comment policy, I am now moderaterating your comments.


Mali June 26, 2014 at 3:41 am

:) :) best comedy drama ever :) Well it was funny for a while but now your posts stink :) there is a saying don’t poke into the poopoo that stinks or it will stink even more, so I will stop, no more posts promise :) moderate what ever you want, ciao ragaci


BobinOz June 26, 2014 at 7:22 pm

Yes, it’s been great fun talking to you Mali, and to Candy as well, who, incidentally, has exactly the same IP address as the one you have used to post this comment.

So much for “believe or not thats not me” because it clearly was. As you say, best comedy drama ever :-) :-)

Mind how you go. Bye bye.


Al Andrew July 8, 2014 at 7:36 am

Well my family and I are moving to Melbourne in August and I cannot wait !!!
I look forward to meeting new people and contributing to a society and peaceful country !


john July 11, 2014 at 10:53 pm

Enjoy the high pay of life and the low quality of freedom.
Also the high import costs of cars and gas! 😉


Sharp324 July 11, 2014 at 10:51 pm

I love living in AUS. no car industry lots of scum left over from the 4 fathers that got dumped there from the British colonies. Yeah best place to live if you are scum was the real title..

I enjoy my 15$ unemployed paycheck but wait i gotta pay double if not triple on anything that comes IN to the country. ha losers enjoy paying 400$ for somthing that is only 200 here in the US.


Charlie July 12, 2014 at 1:37 pm

I wish I could go to Australia, unfortunately it seems too hard for someone to move there (especially like me) I have researched many things about it and it seems to be a pretty good country, I would move there if I could. I think we just need to remember that EVERY country has its problems.


Kym July 12, 2014 at 7:20 pm

I think many countries make it too hard to immigrate. Assuming you meet requirements, why does it cost thousands to apply and get permissions? And I agree that many Australian businesses are behind the times as far as web presence, sites, prices and service but many are making the transition slowly. Along with that goes the excellent stuff Australia provides and we enjoy. The weather, freedom from war and the rubbish that women suffer overseas. Nothing is perfect but I would rather live here than anywhere else in the world. I love being Australian and think I am very lucky to live here.


BobinOz July 13, 2014 at 11:19 pm

Yes, it is very expensive to pay for a visa for Australia, but it’s supply and demand I suspect. Whilst people are still prepared to pay it, the Australian government will charge it. What price do you put on “freedom from war and the rubbish that women suffer overseas?”

Websites are slowly getting there, look at mine :-)


ross July 17, 2014 at 12:07 pm

Australia isn’t all bad… I mean there are some really nice attraction, yes the people can be especially foul mouthed (particularly children) and violent, and the general cost of living is incredibly high (particularly food and drink), but they do have some amazing places to visit, like the great barrier reef… which was once a great attraction but is now being polluted due to Australians lack of care


AAron July 20, 2014 at 1:34 am

Morning Bob,
Australia sounds/reads, for the most part, just like the rest of the world.
A little crime, more in areas of higher population less in lesser population.
There are bugs, nasty ones and cute ones, the kids are kids, There are jobs, there is health care and there is govmnt. People have issues just like here in the usa, there just a little different.

I have been looking a real estate all over the us and around the world. If you have the money there is no issues with location.

I’m just guessing, but if I come visit I’m Not going to meet Crocodile Dundee right? That’s ok, I haven’t meet Davie Crockett or Bill Clinton either. SO I have no unrealistic expectations. I have been to Mexico and it scared me to be meet by armed guards on the road between towns.

I will spend some more time looking through your site and blog.
For the most part is sounds like a nice place to visit or live.
Personally, I want to live away from population having lived in the cities most of my life, personal preference.

Real estate per $ is about the same as here in the us., but from what I have seen you can get more land for the buck in Australia with the privacy I like. Prices here in the us are base, IMO, on personal value than real value. IE the housing bubble boom collapse.

Bob and everyone ells, good reading, thanks for the info of you beautiful and diverse county. I just might be coming to visit to see for myself.



BobinOz July 21, 2014 at 12:43 am

Thanks AAron,

On the surface, yes, we have a bit of crime, some bugs, kids, healthcare, politicians, jobs, sort of just like other places, but I still do think Australia is a package that other countries just can’t match.

Great beaches, laid-back people, wonderful weather, strict gun control, safety for the most part and lots and lots of space. And you are right, if you pick the right area you can get a lot of land. I remember my wife looking in an realtor’s window when we were in Tasmania and saying “These houses are no cheaper here than in Queensland!”

She was looking at a three-bedroom detached house that was up for around $500,000.

I had a look at it and said to her, “Ah, look, it’s got 50 hectares”.


Well Educated July 28, 2014 at 11:44 am

haha what!

I’ve lived in Australia for 25 years and compared to all the countries I have visited, it is pretty safe. Obviously, walking alone at night as a girl, in deserted areas, is not safe. But I would find this issue in a lot of countries.

Deadly pests, like snakes and spiders are usually found out in the bush and not overly common in the city or suburbs.

UV rays – yes it is an issue if you are sunbaking, with minimal clothes. That is the same anywhere. It’s called covering up with sunscreen lotion..

“Actually the government forbids new buildings so as to keep the price high, but the quality drops!” hahaha WHAT! Who writes such ridiculous statements. No, there’s new houses everywhere. You just have to get approval before building, so that you don’t build something impractical, unstable or interfering with neighbours.

Crime?! bahaha the common teen doesn’t ” attack old people.” It’s like anywhere in the world, there is some crime due to low income, mental illness, drugs or bad up bringing. Just because you’ve seen some news articles about what the minority have done, doesn’t mean the whole place dangerous.

Our universities are not free. Another incorrect statement.

Healthcare – we are lucky to have some of the best healthcare in the world. Our taxes go towards this and the common person does not have to pay for yearly health insurance. There is long wait lists for some surgeries in public care, although these surgeries are prioritised, and if you really need that surgery – go and pay for health insurance like everywhere else.

Depending where you are in Australia, the roads are forever improving and in most places are perfectly intact. If you drive around the city or drive around in peak hour, it is heavy traffic but again – like everywhere else in the world..argh

WHAT A TERRIBLE ARTICLE! I think you need to get educated.


Kamma July 28, 2014 at 6:58 pm

No, Well, you need to read the article properly. Bob loves Oz! This is a copy-pasted article from some bloke named Fred, that Bob put in because he thought it was a good joke. Seriously, Bob could only think of two reasons you might not want to move to Oz. Try taking a look at the rest of the site, it makes Oz look like a paradise!


james robertson July 28, 2014 at 1:25 pm

i think australia is an aweful country. I moved there from NZ in 1992, and i couldnt manage one year. I lived rural and everywhere i went i encountered racism from an insular people who knew little about anything that was more than about ten km from their area. Where ever i went i was confronted with stupid questions like “if nz is so beautiful what are you all doing over here?” To which i would reply that because nz and australia share a common labour market it was inevitable that people from the much smaller country would go to the larger one where there were more oportunities, and because australians didnt understand the concept of relocating to where the work is and kiwis did, it didnt matter though,as that wasnt what they wanted to hear and these people are infact just ignorant bigots. proportionatly there are just as many australians making up the nz population as there are kiwis in australia,that ratio being 2.5%, but they also never want to hear about that. Australians in nz are entitled to welfare, entitled to vote, can claim disaster relief, can join the army and police and can become citizens if they wish, while kiwis in australia (even the kiwis taken there as children and babies whom know no other home) are not entitled to any of this despite being tax payers collectively paying 6 billion per year, contributing to local society and culture and whos status is pretty much that of a guest worker expected to leave the country shoild they ever lose their jobs (even though they might have been living there since they were 6 months old). Some people like myself have australian parents. My father was australian, this means nothing as far as the australian govt is concerned if one was born in nz. Recently i visited my aunty in rural Qld. We went to a local cafe for lunch. While there i ws introduced to the cafe owners who run the business as the visiting nephew from across the tasman, to which i was ignored but then my aunt recieved a long rant about kiwis all being bludgers and what were they all doing in australia. They were then informed by me that my tourist dollars arent welcome in their establishment and my online review of their hospitality most likely wouldnt be either, plus the pies i had selected from the warmer wouldnt be able to be used either because i squashed them.so thats why i think australia is aweful, full of rednecks,racists and ignorant australians with a massive chip on their shoulder about the small country to their east that punches above its weight, maies them look lazy and stupid and did everything better and before they did.


Layla July 28, 2014 at 2:17 pm

Tut, tut, what a massive generalisation and what a can of worms you’ve opened.
I would just like to jump on a couple of your points though. I’m lucky enough to have lived in both countries, I have lived in Australia for years and here in NZ for 2 years.
You say Australian’s are rude, racist, ignorant and lazy.
I have found Kiwi’s to be very rude, lacking of the general manners and everyday courtesy and pretty racist when they want to be too.
They are very ignorant of the existence of the rest of the world and some aspects can be very backward.
Lazy – don’t get me started..
New Zealand has a very unstructured society and things such as drug use, child abuse and domestic violence are seen as “normal” here and are accepted.
So pot, kettle, black – I think.
Every time I mention that I’ve lived in Australia, the Kiwi’s instantly change their tone and always whine “Why do you want to go to Australia rather than NZ?”; all with the same defiant expression on their face.
Even when they themselves, move to the UK, USA or other countries because they’re desperate to get off this isolated, overpriced island.
Answer: Because I like it better in Australia, that’s why. That’s my opinion and that’s it.
And I am tired of hearing the same bleating from Kiwi’s and attacking Australia all the time. You Kiwis have a massive chip on your shoulder – it’s called Small Country Syndrome.
Lose the attitude and maybe you won’t lose half your population to other countries.
As a country, (and this is just my opinion) New Zealand’s’ people also suffer from Tall Poppy Syndrome and Centre of the Universe Syndrome.
Your country is not better than everyone else’s – no-ones country is.
Every country has something for everyone.


nicole August 1, 2014 at 6:42 pm

I being reading several comments about people calling Bob an idiot. ?.
He has the right to comment about his thoughts and opinions, people may disagree, but that does not make him an idiot.

I admit that I have not LIVE in Australia, I only backpacked for 6 months, and I did my best to mingle among others living there, rather than with the backpackers.

I have also research about moving there few times, and Visas were first a problem, now the fact that I have MS, is just no a possibility.

However, with my limited experience I would have to say that Australia is a massive country, were I’m sure one finds a mix of everything and many times will depend of your own personal experience/luck. I being living in the Uk for the last 15 years and as it has being the most cold country I have ever being (people related), but then again, I can only speak about my experiences!
I don’t drink and do not enjoy pubs/bars …etc so forget about meeting people, and those that I have meet, I would neither particular trust that much! Hypocresie, coldness and all fake and superficial friendships is my experience from the UK. The only reason I can’t move, is as I said, I have MS, so I can’t longer pack my back and go, as I can’t work/save …etc. :-(.

Slip, Slop, Slab, was the first think I learn in Australia! :-), and I followed as much as I could!

I have now a British friend living in Perth, and him, his parent just don’t like it! They are even considering moving back to the Uk, after 10 years. But yes, salaries do go further there (at least for my friend who has a reasonable well paid job).

Bob, in my limited experience, unfortunately I do have to agree with you comments. However, from everywhere in the world, I’m sure we can make a list of reasons why not to go, lol. Still, I recommend people to travel and experience live in a variety of countries, just not just 1 city as a description of the country.

Ignore people calling you an Idiot Bob!


BobinOz August 1, 2014 at 7:11 pm

Oh I do Nicole, I do :-)


Vutty August 2, 2014 at 7:39 am

Australia is the place to be if you fit in any of the criteria below :
1. You’re boring
2. You’re a functioning alcoholic
3. You’re a selfish pr*ck
4. You’re an alcoholic


BobinOz August 2, 2014 at 10:22 pm

I hate to break it to you Vutty, but you’re pretty boring yourself. Can’t even make a list of four without getting repetitive.


Vutty August 3, 2014 at 5:53 pm

Mate, read carefully.

No. 4 includes non-functioning alcoholics

Never too late to learn, bud.


BobinOz August 4, 2014 at 7:01 pm

And you think a) I didn’t notice that and b) adding an adjective means your list isn’t repetitive?


Vutty October 26, 2014 at 3:00 pm

functioning in ‘functioning alcoholic’ is not a mere adjective.




BobinOz October 27, 2014 at 2:01 pm

I wouldn’t laugh too loudly if I were you, you’re making a bit of a fool of yourself. In ‘functioning alcoholic’, functioning is an adjective and alcoholic is a noun. That’s a fact.

The ignorance is all yours.


Kym August 4, 2014 at 1:03 am

I think for some people it is. Hey Bob, how are you travelling? Getting quite a lot of bullshite comments on your thread. You are a better man than I, GungaDin, to put up with it. Much much more patient for sure.


BobinOz August 4, 2014 at 7:11 pm

I am travelling very well, thank you Kym for asking.

Who would have thought when I reprinted in part Fred’s original article, which was amusing enough in itself, that the comments would end up at times being even funnier.

My patience haven’t been tested at all, I’ve simply had a good laugh.

Cheers, Bob


JP August 4, 2014 at 3:49 am

His website was taken down because they didn’t like his opinion? And you people are passionately verbally lynching him because he has a different opinion? Now I know what Australians are like. Come to think of it, I remember a man got 3 years in prison for sayings things that a Jew on the street didn’t like.


BobinOz August 4, 2014 at 7:27 pm

His website was not taken down because people didn’t like his opinion, it was taken down because it was offensive. As you have never seen the original website, I’m surprised you think you can have an opinion on it.


Jim Jimminy August 14, 2014 at 2:31 pm

What the heck!!?!?!?!??!? I am an Australian and you are all so daft to think this!!! I mean who wrote this? AND IT IS COMPLETELY safe to go out at night! Whoever believes this must be either a:dumb b:a drunk. And Australians are NOT drunks!


BobinOz August 14, 2014 at 7:32 pm

Jim, had you read the whole article rather than skimming it, you would know exactly who wrote this and you wouldn’t be calling us all daft. Jim Jimminy, Jim Jimminy, Jim, Jim de de.

Sorry, I don’t know why did that, they just came out.


era August 24, 2014 at 10:30 am

Hi ! Iam albanian and my bigest dream is living in australia but I dont know which is the best way to apply for visa student or worker , i dont come from rich family and i dont know if i apply like student would cover all the costs and fees of university plsss someone helps mee !!


BobinOz August 24, 2014 at 9:24 pm

If you come here as a student then it is usual that you have to pay all of your student fees, whereas if you come here on a working visa you can work and earn money.

Visas aren’t easy to get though, and they are very expensive, if you want to find out more you really should consult with a MARA registered migration agent or you can read more information on my page about Visas.

Good luck, Bob


Azhar August 24, 2014 at 9:52 pm

Hi Bobin,

I am a software Engineer having 12 years experience, but my degree is not related to computer science and my age is 40 above. what would you like to suggest me?


BobinOz August 25, 2014 at 9:28 pm

If you are asking what options you might have to obtain a visa to allow you to move to Australia, then I suggest you go through my Visa Assessment Service.


Frank August 26, 2014 at 12:34 pm

I fell in love with Australia the first time I visited in 2001. I married an Australian. We live in America, but we’ve been trying to get back to Australia to make a life there. I’m 47 and trying to find a viable job over there since being a respiratory therapist is not a recognized field in Australia. Any advice? My wife says I think too much and I should just take a leap of faith. I can’t just take chances like that. However, I’m almost through completing my bachelors in sociology. Maybe this might translate to something in Australia (?)


BobinOz August 26, 2014 at 6:13 pm

So, I’m assuming actually getting the visa isn’t a problem as you are married to an Australian, your concern is finding work when you get here? If that is the case, my best advice to you is to check out the product offered on my page called How to Find a Sponsored Job in Australia.

It’s an excellent guide to finding work in this country, whether that be sponsored or not. It’s written by an industry expert and very good it is too. I highly recommend it, it will give you the edge in your search.

Good luck, Bob


Frank August 28, 2014 at 1:44 pm

Thank you, Bob!


Patrick Lenihan September 2, 2014 at 10:15 am

I have been living in Australia my whole life and it’s great. This is just a load of rubbish, when you go to a city like Brisbane there are three fuel stations just about everywhere, besides violence only happens on Friday nights when people are out of their mind.


BobinOz September 2, 2014 at 5:21 pm

Correct Patrick, the last petrol shortage in Australia would have been in the Mad Max era :-)


Kiara September 3, 2014 at 10:45 pm

Hi bob, some of these people are just crazy. Australia is awesome and I’ve lived here my whole life. Yes, there is crime, but compared to other countries, it’s about the same, or even less. If you haven’t lived here then I guess that you don’t really know what it’s like here, but my experiences living here from birth have been good, and I don’t really ever want to move anywhere else :)


Kiara September 3, 2014 at 11:04 pm

And if you haven’t lived in Australia you haven’t witnessed the legends who should run this country, hamish and andy. They are actually the funniest .and personally, I don’t think people who haven’t lived here should really post comments, because they don’t know the country. Happy days :)


BobinOz September 4, 2014 at 9:40 pm

The world is full of crazy people Kiara, my website and this page in particular appears to attract more than its fair share. I like to think that everyone is entitled to their own opinions though, it’s just a bonus that some people’s opinions are very amusing :-)

Incredible as it is, but some people just don’t like Australia. Crazy indeed.

Cheers, Bob


TW. September 6, 2014 at 1:07 am

I’m from Trinidad and Tobago, a tiny twin island republic in the Caribbean, 22hrs away by plane. Ever heard of it? …lol…Lately I find myself always ‘google ing’ different aspects of Australia and for the most part I’d like to visit and at least meet people and experience something totally different than that of what I’m accustomed to at home…I’m thinking a day at Bondi Beach would be nice…chillax on the sand, meet some lovely Australian ladies and have some fun.


BobinOz September 6, 2014 at 9:13 pm

Yes, I’ve heard of it, and I seem to remember them being in the World Cup finals at some point.

Hope you realise your dream of visiting Australia one day, and yes, Bondi Beach is a great place to chillax, I wouldn’t know about meeting lovely ladies though, I’m a married man :-)

Good luck, Bob


Karol Ramut September 9, 2014 at 4:32 am

Bad Country, Very Bad People, Very Very Bad Attitude. Married man having sex with other woman’s. I’m sorry for your wife, that she has such a prick.


BobinOz September 9, 2014 at 9:31 pm

Gosh, you’re strange Karol. Very very very weirdo. And how did you know about my wife’s sewing accident?


Hilary September 11, 2014 at 9:47 pm

Love it, that’s so funny Bob, made me laugh out loud!


BobinOz September 12, 2014 at 12:31 am
Jared September 11, 2014 at 9:59 pm

Where are my comments going? are they being deleted??


BobinOz September 12, 2014 at 12:35 am

No Jared, not at all. You made the same comment twice in this thread, once here at the bottom and the other time a lot higher up in a conversation that involved Sasha, and as you were talking about something she had said, I decided to leave your comment there.


johnny September 20, 2014 at 9:14 pm

Wel, I’d love to visit australia some day.. by these comments make me think twice before comin..


BobinOz September 22, 2014 at 7:32 pm

I shouldn’t take too much notice of many of the comments on this page Johnny, and I certainly wouldn’t let them put you off coming here. I think that’s what half of them are trying to do, but you need to decide about Australia for yourself and you can only do that by coming here and taking a look.

I did, and I love it here!



IMFred May 16, 2015 at 12:25 pm

The problem isn’t so much Australia. Each country has its problems, and Fred’s list was a fairly accurate one. The problem is the low intelligence of the average Australian. Instead of evaluating Fred’s comments, and agreeing that some things need to change (legalised corruption causing high housing costs, unconscionable levels of taxation for the services provided such as roads and other infrastructure, exorbitantly high costs of living due to government protection of monopolies prohibiting/restricting imports), dim-witted Australians demonise the boy (i.e. Fred) calling out the naked emperor. Probably because most have been brought up on fluoride; keep the slaves docile.

This country is now more communist than the former USSR states. The greatest tragedy is not this, but that the sheep who live here largely haven’t noticed. I was born here, but I’m looking out. The saying is true, at least for Australia. “The people get the leaders they deserve”.


BobinOz May 18, 2015 at 6:20 pm

Fred v2, with added insults; that’s all we need.


Cait October 3, 2014 at 4:25 pm

This is all fake. Australia is a great country, and I live here. DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS!! People in Australia are kind, the building qualitys are great, etc. it’s just that some people make Australia look bad. It’s not a dessert like place, it rains sometimes, there’s very RARELY sandstorms, and that’s towards the middle of Australia. The reason why we have so many animals, (kangaroos, quokkas, koalas, kookaburra) is because we take care of the environment. Don’t judge a book by its cover, Australia is great.


BobinOz October 3, 2014 at 6:35 pm

Hear hear!


Connor Mulligan October 26, 2014 at 2:12 pm

This is the most stupidest post I have ever seen on any blog ever in my life XD Australia is one of the best countries in the world and there is no doubt about it! I am no way near as patriotic as others but this is just complete nonsense! XDXDXD Made me laugh


BobinOz October 27, 2014 at 1:59 pm

Yes, it probably is the stupidest post ever, and it’s made lots of us laugh :-)


CMb2StepsAhead October 28, 2014 at 12:21 am

Hi guys I’m Zimbabwean. Im currently studying in South Africa and I’ve visited a number of countries. Although I have never been to Australia, there is no doubt that it is one of the best places out there. Well, opinions are bound to differ and I accept that. Thanks Fred for making me laugh at spiders replying emails, and thanks Bob for keeping the fire burning. I love philosophy, and let me say thanks to you all guys for your various views.
I would want to visit many places in my life, and Australia is definitely one of them!


BobinOz October 28, 2014 at 4:43 pm

Thanks CMb2StepsAhead, glad to hear you have found this post amusing, I think it’s given quite a few of us a good laugh. I think this fire will continue to burn for a while longer yet.

Hope you get to see this country soon, I’m sure it will not disappoint you.

Cheers, Bob


Lee November 1, 2014 at 5:41 pm

Bob is full of shit, the whole thing seems like a practical joke. Every statement made was 100% incorrect. You shall probably encounter problems if you are a constant complainer and use the racist card extremely quickly.

Kind Regards



BobinOz November 3, 2014 at 5:13 pm

I feel sorry for you Lee, this probably is the most difficult post to read on my entire website. It’s my fault, I should have put more pictures in it.

If you had have read every word though, you would know precisely who has been saying what and who is and isn’t complaining. And if you had have read it and understood it, you would not have made such a stupid comment.

Try not to skim read next time before you shoot your mouth off.

Kind regards, Bob


mik November 5, 2014 at 6:21 pm

I hate to be a negative – Nelly, but i find this post to be completely insulting and a total ly inaccurate generalization of my country, the place you were LUCKY enough to have the privilege of living in. I have lived in Australia all my life, my parents, grandparents, great grandparents and great-great grandparents were born here – I know this place like the back of my hand.
I honestly can’t be bothered going through and exposing every error on this post, but I will tell you, that our country is the most laid back, friendly, safe, hospitable and RESPECTFUL (especially to the elderly people – whom you claim we assault) country you will ever visit. Also, our law enforcement is extremely effective, you are correct, we do not run around shooting at & locking up people for stealing a jar of Vegemite like those deleted word by admin in America (where i’m assuming you come from) do – we aren’t afraid of our own shadows & we have better things so do.
In essence, i’m just letting you know that:
1. this post is a load of deleted word by admin, which i’m deeply insulted by.
2. the reason you have had bad experiences with Aussies is because we think your an absolute deleted word by admin and would rather you deleted word by admin of back to your own deleted word by admin of a country.
Anyway, have a good day mate – and deleted word by admin off out of my country


BobinOz November 6, 2014 at 8:46 pm

Looks like Fred has got your back up a bit there mik, you seemed to get angrier and angrier the more you wrote. It took me a while to clean up your comment, you will notice there is quite a bit of deleted word by admin appearing where I simply had to remove your obscenities.

Hope you understand, this is a family blog :-)

Anyway, I think Fred quite likes it when people get angry with his remarks, but then he is a bit of a deleted word by admin.

Cheers, Bob


Paul November 6, 2014 at 5:25 pm

I do not understand how somebody can not like Australia. I am a naturalized American born in Uruguay to an Italian dad and a Spanish mom (I guess it is a common scenario over there). I have been raised in Southern Europe and migrated to the US after being drafted by the Italian army. I have lived in the UK, France, Austria, Belgium, Canada…etc. Because of my work, I have been traveling around the world and, quite frankly, I do think Australia is the very best earth has to offer. My 14 year old son is the only one not agreeing with me so far. I now live in a Melbourne suburb but I have been in several Australian cities and they are simply lovely.
Anyway, I guess this message is for all of you, since Fred seems to be a goner now.
Enjoy the lucky country!


BobinOz November 6, 2014 at 9:33 pm

Yes, it is, almost everyone I know is a naturalised American born in Uruguay to an Italian dad and a Spanish mum :-)

I couldn’t agree with you more Paul, I love it here in Australia, I can’t understand what anyone could dislike about it either. And your son, it’s just his age, he’ll come round. Sooner rather than later would be my guess.

Cheers, Bob


Marisa Wright November 9, 2014 at 9:17 am

I feel that in reacting to Fred’s over-the-top criticism, you’ve gone to the other extreme yourself and that undermines your credibility. I’ve lived in Australia for 30 years and I love many things about it, but that doesn’t mean I’m not aware of the downsides.

One is definitely UV radiation. Just take a moment to look at some UV maps and you’ll see that most of Australia gets “Extreme” UV radiation for most of the day for most of the summer. The WHO’s official advice is to stay out of the sun during Extreme UV, even if you are wearing protection. Sure, most of us do ignore that advice – but that’s why we have the highest rate of skin cancer in the world, three times that of the UK! So I think it’s quite right to make people aware of that risk rather than just rubbish it.


BobinOz November 10, 2014 at 1:30 pm

Yes, I am aware this country does have a UV radiation problem, but Fred paints a picture that everyone here HAS TO wear long sleeves and long trousers, wide rimmed hats, dark glasses and apply sunscreen every two hours and that simply isn’t the case.

That’s all I was pointing out.

And the day we all decide to take note of every one of the WHO’s recommendations will be the day that the majority of us will be taking statin drugs for cholesterol management and blood pressure medication as well every day.


Carrie November 9, 2014 at 8:53 pm

I lived there since I was a kid. It USED to be a great place to live (despite the cockroaches, spiders and snakes – and yes, spiders WILL ‘read your mail’ – meaning, they’ll happily build a home in your mailbox).

And yes, the UV radiation thing isn’t a joke, but by all means, treat it that way at your own peril.

The point is that it’s no longer a great place to live.

Australia is run and controlled by corrupt, corporate greed. Class division has soared since the current ‘muppets’ took control and the gap between rich and poor continues to widen at an alarming rate.

Australia’s government isn’t interested in a nation of healthy people and to prove it, dental prices are a joke and healthy, fresh, foods are unaffordable for the majority of struggling families while unhealthy, greasy, junk is what the battlers usually to turn to just to stave off hunger.

Successive governments there treat their indigenous with contempt and disrespect and for that alone, they deserve to be blacklisted from the world’s list of ‘great countries to visit’.

Aside from that, Australia is (in my opinion) gawd-awful butt ugly. Thank goodness for New Zealand – the polar opposite of Australia and yet, just a puddle-jump away.


Mike November 20, 2014 at 12:12 am

Oh gosh i am still laughing loved this post…the most usual comment i get from friends and family in south east asia is that the government in australia loves its people why else would it pay them to stay home..and second corruption as australians know it is considered almost normal…sad state of affairs my wife now knows the truth since coming to australia and shakes her fist at those people loved by the government and shouts “get a job you slack jawed yokel”


mik November 9, 2014 at 10:11 pm

As you can see from my above post, you ferals who have the nerve to disrespect my country infuriate me. In saying that, Carrie, I agree that the treatment of Indigenous Australians is extremely poor, however the rest of your post is ridiculous, “butt ugly” please … what filthy rotten country do you come from? This place is absolutely beautiful. Furthermore, I suggest you puddle-jump you way over to our less attractive, poor & far more irritating neighbors and deleted word by admin out of my country you deleted word by admin – catch ya

*there you go bob i did all the editing for you, you lazy deleted word by admin


BobinOz November 10, 2014 at 1:48 pm

I’m proud of you mik, you managed to write all those words without swearing. Well done! But you had to spoil yourself with that sheep reference didn’t you? So I’ve deleted that.


Paul November 9, 2014 at 10:15 pm

I must have missed something.
I have lived in Auckland for almost a year.
What’s the difference between NZ and OZ, other than the half that Kiwis with any aspirations move to OZ right away.
I get your anger and discontent. You are partly right, of course.
But that’s isn’t only OZ. Corporations and 800 numbers are ruling the world. They have the capital. OZ alone cannot change the world. It needs to be a common effort.
But I did not feel that NZ was much more just than OZ with its citizens. Somebody needs to clarify this to me because I only see a poorer and smaller cousin of OZ (with all due respect, NZ is a great place but Australia is a much richer country. I do not say this with any disrespect for NZ. I just did not feel that there was any moral or social superiority on the NZ side).


Kym November 10, 2014 at 5:45 am

I have to agree about corporate greed, but not just Australia, the world too. We would all be better off shooting the top 2%. NZ is not better or prettier than Australia, they are both beautiful in their own way. Its this kind of blind, narrow minded prejudice that makes the world the way it is. I will say NZ’s coffee standard is above Oz in general way. We need to have more barista’s!!!


Paul November 10, 2014 at 2:35 pm

OZ and other Western nations (including the US, where I have lived for over 19 years) are angry because we feel overlooked, inconsequential, and undervalued. And when we feel we don’t matter it is easy to hurtle past the fail-safe point, and we are gone; we can no longer be called back.

People are angry in Australia because the fabric is tearing (alas at a slower pace than in other industrialized nations), the support rope is frayed, and the big gate is closing; time is running out and only the fierce little pigs are going to suckle at the breast of plenty.

Do you think this is only a conservative-led problem?
I agree that they want us to do what is best for them. But what about liberals?
They want us to do what is good for us, except wearing fur, eating meat, keep your dog outside (where he should live) and/or buying him a birthday present or bring it to a dog shrink when he is depressed. Oh, and let’s not forget the very important issue of getting our pets medicines delivered to our doors!

I have nothing to pet owners by the way. I like dogs and I had them for most of life growing up. But aren’t we losing track of what the real problems are all about here?
OZ may be a lot of things but I do not thing it is a completely careless nation with its own citizens (457 visa holders, on the other hand… must eat quite a bit of stale cake because they are allowed into the welfare system!)

In short, the raising anger is the emotional by-product of our sheer amount of ignorance and fear of the unknown. We are undergoing a revolution. And it is not going to be pretty for a while. The first and second industrial revolution weren’t a walk in the park either. Now we are in the midst of the digital revolution. We do not fully understand what’s going on but we surely do not like it. Political leaders seem ineffective. Rudd, Abbott, Obama, Cameron, Renzi…you name it, aren’t going to change the world overnight. It takes 15 to 20 years to see any fundamental change in society.

So take it easy Carie. OZ is a free country and you are allowed to feel as you please. But you will find a lot of anger and resentment when you chose to criticize it so harshly. You are invading other people’s comfort zone and they do not like it. Try and wake everyday thinking you do not live in a merry country, let alone world. You will find a resistant, infuriating answer in most countries worldwide. Their fair reaction would be to invite you to go back to wherever you came from.

I do not feel that way. I like OZ. I like it a lot. I am here by choice and it is not easy at my age to fit in. I could have stayed back in America. But, frankly, I find OZ to be a much more humane compromise.

Now, I don’t want to rude Mik, but some people (like you) in this country are become so intolerant with dissenters right now, they might as well change the plaque at the customs and border controls in any OZ airports to read, “Love us or else go back to wherever you boarded the jet” in lieu of “Declare or beware”;

And yet this is what it’s come to. Not only in OZ but in many other places. Take British Columbia’s license plates “The Best Place on Earth”. Everybody’s broken off into these petulant little Travis Bickle tribes. Everybody walks the perimeter of their own damaged esteem ever-vigilant against an incursion by “They”, Them. The Other Guys who do not like our/their precious land.

Everybody is touchy and everybody’s encouraged to be patriotic and nationalistic by media outlets and propaganda.

More some other day… Going to bed


King Fox November 13, 2014 at 6:14 am

Australia is not that bad, is very safety country to live in the world, it has less street crimes, and they don’t have many people. Australia weather is very nice and sunshine, it is not too hot in South, the sky is blue. The beach is very safe and fun.(apart from north coast) In Australia, you will definitely get good education, but the holiday is so long. Spider only in middle of Australia, mosquito only common in north, not all part. Australia is quite lovely place to go on holiday and residence


Madi November 20, 2014 at 11:26 am

This is hilarious to read, i currently live in Australia and none of these are true, Melbounre which is the most livable city in the WORLD, is in Australia, so it must be awfull. And the government doesnt punish crimes???? nope of course we dont


rick December 3, 2014 at 3:02 pm

Just been to Western Australia. Took my Shela through Kings Park. Didn’t see signage 40kph and came home to a whopping $200 photographic infringement notice!!!!! Great place!!!! I went for a holiday and now have to pay off one of the wealthiest states in the world for going 10k over the limit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t visit!!!!!!!!!!!! Go somewhere where you actually speak to a cop and can talk your way out of it, like, “I’m a tourist was enjoying the scenery, love your country, etc….”


BobinOz December 4, 2014 at 1:54 pm

…”somewhere where you actually speak to a cop and can talk your way out of it,” – do you mean go back to the 1980s? :-) I can’t think of anywhere these days where that kind of thing happens anymore. :-)


Mike December 21, 2014 at 6:34 am

Still happens in South East Asia. People however always say I didn’t see the sign. I have used that excuse myself.


BobinOz December 22, 2014 at 9:01 pm

I think we may well have found where Rick can take his Sheila on holiday next year :-)


Crimson December 17, 2014 at 12:09 am

You guys know that Fred was being sarcastic right? His whole list is a satire and is completely sarcastic. Surely I am not the only one who sees this?

That’s what he meant by; “Nice to hear from you Bob. Amusing people is a good thing and angering them is not my purpose. If they get angry, it proves their intolerance. My comments can be ridiculous for some, however, only the super smart appreciate them.”


Crimson December 17, 2014 at 12:11 am

His June 23, 2014 list I mean. That is a satire. As for his original list: I don’t know.


BobinOz December 18, 2014 at 12:40 am

I think you may be right about his second list, but I’m not so sure about the original one. I can’t remember too much of what my English taught me back in the 70s, but I do remember him saying this. “It’s very difficult to be sarcastic in writing.”

And I think he is right, you have to hear the tone to know for sure, but when it comes to print, only the writer knows if he is being satirical or sarcastic, so we’d have to hear it from Fred himself, he would have to tell us. And then we’d have to decide whether he was telling the truth or not :-)

I do think Fred likes winding people up though, whatever it is, I think this post and conversation that has followed it has been a good deal of fun.

Cheers, Bob


Bill January 3, 2015 at 7:59 pm

Two major reasons I left Australia after experiencing the Family court there as a new immigrant Father;
I was told by the Attorney-General after my ex-wife ran away with my son that “Mothers can’t kidnap-only Fathers can”..!? I found this insulting and discriminatory. Australia Doesn’t have a “Bill-Of-Rights” in its constitution. 50% of Australians think they have the same rights as Americans and they DO NOT. They do have great beaches but archaic laws that suite the 19th century-not the 21st and that is why I left Australia……Most Aussies simply don’t get it..The insult was too much.


BobinOz January 5, 2015 at 2:42 pm

“50% of Australians think they have the same rights as Americans…” – Where did you get that gem from Bill? I’m suspecting you made it up. I certainly don’t believe I have the same rights as an American and with the very relaxed gun laws you have in that country, I’m glad about that as well.


Bill March 29, 2015 at 6:12 pm

I got the info from a Barrister who deals with the High Court of Australia..

“Where did you get that Gem from Bill?”……


BobinOz March 29, 2015 at 11:04 pm

Oh, okay, he made it up then.


Joe H January 4, 2015 at 10:56 am

Well…. What an interesting hour that was reading this post!! Me and my girlfriend have just returned from travelling the east coast in a jucy camper for a month and I can honestly say Australia is by far the best country we have ever been! So much so we are now in the process of applying for our visas which will cost us in the region of £10,000 which, is a price we would happily pay to get out of the UK for a better lifestyle! Although if I actually took certain people’s negative comments on here seriously we would be staying here in the sinking ship this is (not so great) Britain but hey….. That’s what Internet trolls are about! I am a plasterer by trade and the other half is a children’s nurse and we are very much looking forward to integrating and putting back into a country that will offer us and our future family a better life! Keep up the good work Bob your website is a valuable place for information on so many key areas of migration and settling down! I owe you a few beers 😉

Regards Joe


BobinOz January 5, 2015 at 2:46 pm

That’s the beauty of this world Joe, not everybody likes the same things. There are a good number of people who absolutely hate Australia, but it appears to me that far more actually love the place.

You really have to come here to see it for yourself before you can make your mind up, as you have done. I hope your plans to move here go smoothly, only so that you can buy me those beers :-)

Cheers, Bob


Bill January 4, 2015 at 9:33 pm

As I previously said….they simply don’t get it. I hope you don’t have kids Joe. If you bring them and get divorced you may lose ’em mate..!!


Joe H January 5, 2015 at 1:25 am

I’m sorry that you have had a bad experience with what you have gone through bill but I can’t really see why that would affect our decision to move to Australia! In all fairness judges all over the world especially the UK will always favour the mother in the partnership unless there is significant reason not to! That’s just the way it is I’m afraid! If we listened to everyone’s bad luck stories about Australia we would be sat in our flat back in the UK scared to venture out, but we have to experience everything the country has to offer for ourselves! And as previously stated everything we have experienced so far has been amazing! Definitely the place for us (we hope) 😉


Mike January 5, 2015 at 6:34 am

It’s sad that you have no access to your children Bill, It actually sounds like you were duded by the System, or had a shoddy lawyer, In Australia to relocate a Child that is part of a shared custody arrangement consent needs to be received from the courts where the other parent disagrees. In just about every case mothers are given a preferential deal when it comes to child custody as they are usually the primary carers. Many single parents I know still have to share custody with the other parent that was abusive towards them or that refuses to pay any form of child support.


Bill March 29, 2015 at 6:17 pm

I know the theory about what’s supposed to happen in court and it’s B.S. I remain on my last comment-go at your own risk.!


BobinOz March 29, 2015 at 11:06 pm

I’m guessing a bit because I don’t know the full circumstances of your case, but I don’t think you’ve been had over by Australian law Bill, I think this is more a case of Australia applying the Hague Convention.


USAAOK January 11, 2015 at 1:34 pm

I know this article is probably written in jest, but it’s absolutely true. Australia has ‘some’ nice things and people, but for the most part its a bunch of inbred, uneducated people with no people skills and nothing to talk about. The infrastructure is terrible, the housing is some of the worst I’ve seen outside of a slum, and everything is so expensive you basically can’t afford to do anything or leave – which costs a lot as it is so far away from the rest of the world. Visit for a short period of time, but do not move there.


BobinOz January 12, 2015 at 5:53 pm

Fred’s brother?


Mike February 2, 2015 at 8:27 pm

I would guess yes…as what does he mean by “rest of the world”…most of the world is right on our doorstep…the only rest of the world that is far away is USA and Europe…Europe is expensive for just about everything…and much of the US is not particularly educated…The worst slums I have seen outside of a trip to India where the slums I have seen in the US. Sadly US has a limited form of welfare that pushes people into slums..and crime..which is the opposite of Australia where people decide life isn’t too bad on lifetime government handouts.one day I dream that Australia will find the happy medium between the user pays system of the US and the over taxing of a handful that is the case in Australia.


BobinOz February 3, 2015 at 8:58 pm

By “rest of the world” I think he just means his world :-) which isn’t very big if he thinks we have the worst housing he’s seen outside of slums. That’s a quite ridiculous statement to make.


Antonios February 2, 2015 at 12:18 pm

Its true its all true, i am saving my money to get out of here and live in Europe where the laws are more relaxed, Australia is the worst country in terms of life, living, lifestyle.
Plenty of money and nothing else.
Everything is taxed. laws prohibit anything fun, laws on ciggarrettes ridiculous,


BobinOz February 2, 2015 at 4:26 pm

Tax on cigarettes? Jeez, how ridiculous is that?


Kamma February 2, 2015 at 8:03 pm

Where in Europe are you headed? If you’re going for the south, it’s a big social, monetary mess, and if you’re going north, then it’s more expensive with taxes on everything, too! Cigarettes, sugar, fat, alcohol, you name it!
In Denmark, cars sometimes cost twice as much as in other countries, just because of the taxes placed on them. Healthcare is free, though.


Mike February 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

Don’t go to the UK…VAT is on just about everything…from memory VAT on Cigarettes is 20% you aren’t permitted to smoke in a vehicle if there is a child in it..you can’t smoke in work vehicles..can’t smoke in enclosed public buildings, spaces or transport hubs….pubs clubs and the like just like here..to go that extra crazy person step..there are moves to try to ban smoking for anyone born after the year 2000.


Anthony Scott February 6, 2015 at 8:23 pm

Hi I’m an american wanting to move to australia. I live in the northern part & I hate winter. Plus I want to experience a new culture & setting.
How welcoming is australia for an atheist/vegan?


BobinOz February 9, 2015 at 5:03 pm

Atheism would be fine, but I’m not so sure how you’ll be looked at being a vegan, you might want to keep that one quiet.

Kidding :-)


georgina February 22, 2015 at 1:04 pm

hello Anthony,
Australia is an multicultural country, we are very welcoming of your opinions and beliefs.
I’m a vegetarian and i know many vegans, so we are also very welcoming with that too.


gayu February 15, 2015 at 5:09 am

Hey bob,
I am planning to move to Brisbane in a few months to pursue my postgrad. I am super excited and I do hope i have an awesome experience. I am from India and have heard a lot about the kindness and good nature of the aussies. Hope I have an awesome time!
and one more thing is Brisbane hotter than south India (say like Chennai)??


BobinOz February 16, 2015 at 2:24 pm

I hope you have an awesome time as well. Is Brisbane hotter than South India? I don’t know, I don’t know what the temperature in South India is like, but if you check out my page about Brisbane then you will see a weather chart detailing our annual weather patterns.

Good luck, Bob


bek February 18, 2015 at 8:34 am

hey i’m an aus and the fact that you said at the start that archaeology is your hobby is not a good reason to move to aus is completely false, Australia has found the oldest human remain from over 40,000 years ago, other nations don’t go back that far, so there


BobinOz February 18, 2015 at 11:58 pm

Well spotted bek, Fred is obviously not very good at his hobby either :-)


Spartacus February 28, 2015 at 7:03 am

I am a 51 year old licensed professional. I think I want to move to Australia, you seem to be a good source for info. I can use my profession to make roughly $100,000 USD there. Would that provide good living standards for a person that lives beneath my means. If you were me, would you do it? Just by God pack up and live the rest of my life in a paradise of my minds eye.
I am Spartacus


BobinOz March 1, 2015 at 9:42 pm

I’m Spartacus!

Yes, $100,000 would be plenty for you, and if I were you, yes, I would do it. You will need a visa though, have you looked into that? Good luck, Bob


Spartacus March 9, 2015 at 6:46 am

Yes sir, I certainly have, which is the least concerning reason why or why not Australia. The tax system and the cost of living is very discouraging. Seeking advice from a good friend much smarter than me that gave it a try in Oz. I was informed at my earning potential I would be taxed at 38% rounded. I would earn AUD of course, convert to USD if I choose to send it home and with a 100k gross I would be fortunate to catch slightly under 60k in the net. I was also told the cost of living is very high. This man is very educated and wouldn’t steer me wrong.
All of that said, I can do that part time in the US! Can you prove my friend wrong? I’m sure the cost of living is relative to location, so forget that issue.
Hey, I love the thought of a paradise, but at what cost ya know!?!
Thanks for being Bob! I greatly appreciate your valuable information!
I am Spartacus!!


Spartacus March 9, 2015 at 6:51 am

I was obviously incorrect regard my USD vs. AUD earnings, please forgive the Spartacus……


Mike March 9, 2015 at 7:14 am

Good Morning Spartacus

On 100,000 Dollars as a resident for taxation purposes. You would pay around 25,000 in tax..in Australia you move up tax brackets as you earn. So you pay zero tax on the first $18,200 you earn then start pay tax once you hit $18,000 to $37,000 you pay 19%…and so it goes on the top bracket is 37% and that kicks in at 80,000 so your final 20K would be taxed at 37%. Life is worse if you don’t qualify for resident for taxation purposes (Which is different from immigration residency) as you pay top bracket on all your money. I would read the Australian Taxation Office’s web site as things change and brackets move. Life in Australia is pretty sweet on 100K especially outside of the major metro areas.


Spartacus March 9, 2015 at 8:01 am

Thank you very much Mike!


BobinOz March 9, 2015 at 4:46 pm

Well, I would be inclined to disagree with your learned friend Spartacus and as you can see, Mike has explained that your tax bill will be lower than he has suggested, assuming you have a qualifying residential visa.

I have also a complete category about the cost of living in Australia so I’ve written about this subject many many times, including comparing it to the cost of living in the USA. There are many reasons why Australia looks expensive from abroad, but isn’t when you actually get here and start earning Australian dollars. My view is very different from your friends, so don’t give up on that dream yet, paradise is still at your fingertips :-) – especially as you have already said you can get a job with good income.


Spartacus March 9, 2015 at 11:50 pm

I feel certain that you are correct, however with a triple bypass and most recent failure symptoms, I think am going to delay this process.
Thank you for being kind and for being Bob in Oz!
I think your site is fantastic, keep up the good work you lucky man!
I am Spartacus
I’m also Chris, simply Chris……


This conversation thread has reached its limit, it’s automatically set.

I just wanted to say thanks for being Spartacus, or Chris :-) good luck mate, Bob

georgina February 22, 2015 at 1:01 pm

Just to put it out there you only looked at the negatives.
You didn’t once put a positive in there, there are many positives in Australia.
Do you ever hear of all school shootings in Australia?
Yea maybe we have our flaws, but so does every country.
We have beautiful beaches, amazing land marks, amazing scientist that without them, there could be no cure for many things, yes OK, Australia likes to drink, yes OK maybe our houses are costly, but maybe that’s not Australia, maybe that’s the people, and this the comment:
“Bad, bad, bad roads! Roundabouts everywhere, even on the highways. You must visit his website if only to find out about our terrible roads. As he says “I have seen better roads in many places except Srilanka!” this statement is not true, first of all we have some of the safest roads in the world, we also don’t have roundabouts on highways.
maybe your experience of Australia is different to mine, maybe you are a pessimist person and that’s OK, but you are putting false information into peoples heads, my opinion on Australia is my opinion as well as your opinion on Australia is your opinion, but don’t give Australia a bad name because you don’t like it, if you didn’t like this county then why did you even bother coming here, be and Australian to give tips about Australia.


Melbournian March 7, 2015 at 9:13 am

I studied and worked in Melbourne for 18 years before moving to US. Melbourne is a beautiful place, with beautiful houses, best road in rural areas, clean BBQ and restroom in remote areas, super clean and grand modern shopping malls (where you can only find in the highest class shopping strips in US), and wonderful restaurants of all cultures (best chef immigrate to melbourne, Sydney, L.A, Vancouver, etc.) People are so kind and caring, they truly want to give you an easier life, even they don’t know you. (In USA govenment don’t care about the people, people only care about themself. If you’re in trouble, many people try to take advantage of you). The Australian government does care about your life like a mom. (Americans don’t seem to be able to think in other people’s shoes. You must negotiate with them, be firm on what you want from them, which is kind of rude from the point of view of an Australian). I was able to save a bit of money when I was a full-time student. Cost of living was very affordable 18 years ago.

What I did not like about Australia is that, for Asians, no matter how intellegent you are, you can hardly get a full-time office job, or if you get one, you will never get to the top. They don’t look at what you can do, they look at how you can ‘fit in” (be one of them, easy for them to work with and have a good time at work). The Australian White people judge you by your English accent and look (better dye your hair light brown to look “normal’). The educated white are very professional, with very good manner. (Compare with US, Asians are role model of the local ‘White’. You can find a job so easily – because employees are not that well protected in US. Therefore, while owning a house at the time of retirement is the dream of every local borned Australian, many Americans own 2-3 houses in 20 years if they have a job).

In Melbourne, hayfever and allergy is so common that it affect one third of the population. Peanuts are fatal to many children that child care center will through away your child’s sandwich if they found peanut butter in it. Australia is so dry that trees and grass are not green. There is often water restrictions during summer time in NSW and VIC.

Melbournians are so conservative that they refuse to do business or be innovative, because Australia is heaven to employees and consumers, hell to small business owners who cannot find a full-time job. (USA is heaven to business owners and crooks, government agencies do not do anything to protect consumers – they protend, but do nothing).

Australian culture is very British. Australian men are traditional like Europeans, believing men should take care of women (pay for the bills), but they believe women are not equal to men (at work, etc.). In US it is exactly the opposite.

Most Australians I know are very jealous. They want everyone to be the same (same social status, same financial situation). If you want more or do better, their no longer wish you well. They’d rather believe they are luckiest in the world, and refuse to learn about what’s happening in the rest of the world (basically, many of them don’t want to use their brain). Australians are not that ‘bright” but are very nice and trustworthy as service providers or friends. (Americans love to explore every state and every country, criticizing their government fiercely, and don’t trust their government. But if you tell them how much other government in other countries have been doing for their own citizens, they become very partriotic and hostile. Everyone talks like they can run the government, but very few of them are trustworthy/professioanl as Australians )

There used to be a report about “1/4 Australians do not trust police”, but it disappeared quickly after gaining public attention. Australians are very afraid to ‘reveal the dark side”, or “not co-operating with authorities’ (managers/government), but it has a culture of reporting scams and misconduct, government does good investigations about them. Australians criticize the goverment constantly, and government officials truly try to please the people. In US, it is exactly the other way round.

Well, Australia is ideal for white immigrants from Britain, Canada, US and new Zealand (no problem finding a job related to your previous employment), or rich people who bring a lot of money into Australia to enjoy the life. After all, Australia is safer. People do believe that everyone deserves a decent life. They would truly take care of you when you are too old to protect yourself.


Mike March 9, 2015 at 7:30 am

Sounds like you got a bad run there, where I work we have female managers, Chinese department heads..it’s all a matter of perspective. It would also be different between government and private enterprise and from industry to industry. I guess I just move in different circles, Where I work most of us travel, some only as far as places like Bali others to Europe, US and so on. I lived in the US for a time and can safely say that the US is very similar to Australia in that large parts of the US are also US centric and have no real idea what is going on outside their borders. Just like many Australian’s have little idea. It depends almost entirely on location, economic circumstances and the individual. When I lived in the US I observed some of the worst Racism I have ever seen directed against non-white’s the only place worse than that was the middle east and the treatment directed towards Indian migrant workers. Sadly the facts are all nations have their horrific and disturbing underbelly that people pretend doesn’t exist but it does.

All nations wish to think they are better than the nations around them…but largely they aren’t. Australia and the US have horrible track records with human rights but still point fingers at other people, sadly the US still has slavery and estimated 60,000 people are still in some form of slavery, maybe not the old cotton picking form of slavery but slavery none the less. Australia an estimated 3000 for the US and nation that prides itself on being the land of the free this is not a great look.


BobinOz March 9, 2015 at 2:38 pm

Melbournian, Penny Wong is an Australian politician who has represented South Australia in the Senate since 2002, and is the current Leader of the Opposition in the Senate, she is Asian, she was born in Malaysia. Sounds like she’s got a decent job :-) So that’s one of your theories debunked.

There are many more that I should be correcting you on, including the ridiculous “Most Australians I know are very jealous.” Whilst I can’t argue with that, I don’t know the Australians you know, I still find it a quite ridiculous statement to make. And that kind of sums up many of your other statements, you are trying to pigeonhole the entire country of Australia based on your experiences in Melbourne. It’s not dry everywhere, by the way, we do have green trees in many locations.

“Australians are not that bright”? That’s really insulting and a stupid statement to make.


Nick March 7, 2015 at 10:06 am

Add another reason :

Movies and musics are released minimum 2 months after US and EU, I can say maybe last place in the world.

Spend lots of money on paid TV and still u have to watch long commercials!


BobinOz March 9, 2015 at 2:40 pm



Zack March 10, 2015 at 7:51 am

If that’s the biggest sufferage you face being here you must have lived a sheltered life,


Jessy April 21, 2015 at 10:40 am

we don’t have to pay for tv tho, all tv is free unless you want foxtel. And as for the music, who cares for the horrid music that comes out of the US. It’s all the same some fool singing about money, hoes, killing and materialistic shit like that. We have an amazing music scene here, good Aussie rock.


Mitch March 18, 2015 at 8:41 am



BobinOz March 18, 2015 at 5:14 pm

Only if you let yourself be offended Mitch, most of us find the claims so ridiculous that we find it funny. That’s why we’ve been having a bit of a laugh with it.


raag March 22, 2015 at 1:01 am

Love Australia..I Wana Move THere..


Carlos Cardenas June 26, 2015 at 7:30 pm

all what you say is crap, notthing is true


BobinOz June 26, 2015 at 8:35 pm

Who, exactly, are you talking to Carlos?


Brendan April 13, 2015 at 3:11 am

I don’t know what Fred’s been smoking but University level education is not free and hasn’t been so for many years. Higher education in Australia is actually becoming really expensive..


BobinOz April 14, 2015 at 12:17 am

Well it’s just one of a number of things Fred has got wrong about Australia, I suppose we just add it to the list.


Bob April 19, 2015 at 8:23 pm

Here’s a reason not to live here:

Sydney to Coffs by car – 5 1/2 hours.
Sydney to Coffs by train – 9 hours +

Say no more.


BobinOz April 19, 2015 at 9:16 pm

Sorry, but that one just doesn’t make the top 10 :-)


jessy April 21, 2015 at 10:25 am

I’m an Australian and none of this is true. university is NOT free. Our universities have a lot of security guardS, I’ve been studying for 3 years and not once have I been “raped” or robbed or harassed on campus or anywhere in Aus. If you did some research you would find that Australia’s crime rate and drug rate is a lot lower than England and America. I’ve also worked in bars and clubs for the past 4 years and I’ve never seen someone be attached with a glass. I’m 25 and have never been in a fight and most of the people I know haven’t been in a physical fight either. Look, I’m not saying all this never happens but you make Australia sound like a 3rd world country. I don’t know who your source “Fred” is but he’s giving you bad info. I suggest you come here or at least do your own research before turning judgement.


BobinOz April 22, 2015 at 5:22 pm

Jessy, I am here, been living here for over seven years now. I know none of this is true, I’m as astonished as you are about Fred’s opinions. I just put them up here for a bit of fun.

Cheers, Bob


Benny April 22, 2015 at 7:43 pm

I have lived in Australia my whole life and traveled the world. So I will address each issue.
1. UV is extremely high. I work outdoors everyday, and see the affect it can take on you. But in saying that you have to protect yourself as I do.
2.There are plenty of pests. This however is not concerning.
3. Like everywhere there are great people and there are nightmare people.
4.The cost of living is high. As is the tax on alcohol
5. Australia is very far from everything else. But getting around the country is fine, there is enough fuel stations.
6.Healthcare is fine here, except dental is not included and is very expensive, which I believe prevents people from going as often as they should.
7.Roads are perfectly fine. We drive on the left side.
8. Education is fine and safe.
9.Housing is fine, there are new houses and old houses, but they are over priced in this country.
10. Crime. Over all crime is not high. But youths do attack older people as there are some that don’t fear the law because that get a slap on the wrist and then repeat offend. The government is to blame for this for not punishing people correctly and providing well fare to scum that don’t deserve children but have them to get money for there drug habit.
That’s my view. I do love living here but plan to move overseas to experience live elsewhere. I hope I have not offended anyone. This is my view and experience. And I also like where I live. Thanks.


BobinOz April 23, 2015 at 6:08 pm

Very good answer Benny, I’ll give you 8/10 for it :-)


Ger-Jee May 10, 2015 at 8:46 pm

Hey Bob Ger-Jee (Garry) here from South Africa. Id like to comment if I may.


BobinOz May 11, 2015 at 11:02 pm

Go right ahead Ger-Jee.


Ger-Jee May 11, 2015 at 11:31 pm

Hi there. Thanx SO much for all the usefull info you are posting and for your insight and honesty. Im 35 years old and my 2 kids are almost 5 and the other is 3. Me and my family is looking to relocate……….and Aus is our first (and basicly last) option. Not that we HAVE to….but beacuse we want to.
Ive read ALOT if the comments people leave, and i think to myself……..”dude, you are either sitting at work very bored and need to post some rubbish somewhere and then you found this site……or you dont have a clue).
I cant diss my own country abd and Im NOT A RACIST…….. but the load of crap people can complain about in OZ is ridiculous.
Crime, fuel price, racism, violence, high cost of living……..my friend……come visit us.!!!!!!!!!!


Ger-Jee May 12, 2015 at 2:33 am

What i want to get to is…….Im in the very first stages of getting ready to go to Aus. Im busy looking at migration companies to help me…….came across “brightervisas” but read very disturbing things about them on the web.
The reason for me wanting to leave SA and opt for OZ is because i need a place with a similar climate than what im used to. I need a country where my children can have a priper education and have a fair chance at studying in the fields they want to. I want my daughter to go through life and not get raped even once. I want my boy to be able to stip at a trafic light and not get hi jacked and shot dead before he reaches 25. I want to be able to draw money at an ATM and not be stabbed to death for the video store money i just withdrew. I want to live in a country where its not normal and everyday life to see dead people around you. (Where they chop each other to bits with pangas(mascettes), pensioners get tied up and tortured by burning them with boiling water from kettles and then killing them and not even ribbing their house or farm……just for fun because they were white, 83 year old nuns get raped and strangled to death, people get out of there cars and shoot someone to death in their face because of road rage. A few bucks can get your police case “sorted with missing dockets”, its not strange anymore ti see a pregnant teenage girls baby was cut out of her while she was alive……..by witch doctors.
Im REALY NOT exagerating. I wish i can post a oic on this site of my news stand tomorrow morning of all our newspaper headlines for the day……..you guys might hurl…..but for us…and my children ….to see those pics everyday and read that everyday……its as normal as brushing your teeth or greeting your neighbour.
But its not okay for me anymore….i cant watch this around me anymore and i dont want my children to live this “normal” sout african life anymore.
Do you know some or someone close to someone you , who have been raped or killed???? I think i can say with ease that EVERY south african does theese days.
I want to live in Aus…..get there with a skilled permanent residents workers visa and take my family with. I want to pay Ausie taxes…..all of them, want to conquer all the insects and dangerous spiders, want to challenge the very wicked UV rays ( like we dont have them……use sunscreen and use your brain to avoid skin cancer)……..and all the bad stuff some folks think they want to bitch about, about Aus. We want to have it……….if Aus will have us. I want to contribute to a country in all ways that actually want me and my wife and my two white kids there !!!!. I swear i will not complain about sad looking trees or old houses. We love renovating….and im in th e construction bussiness. Ill pay all my last pennies for my kids education ……….i have never in my life heard about free higjer education…but ill work honestly in a country where i wasnt born in if i can have the privalege to pay for and see( befor getting murdered)my kids study in a university in the area they eccel in, when growing up.
Currently we have the 5th higjest paid president in the world, highest crime rate, higjest HIV infection and i think the the poorest education system…………..in the world !!!!!!!!!!! 25years ago it was a very different picture……so much has changed and gone to the dogs……..and things are not…..and wont be getting better soon. Id like to see how my hard earned tax money gets used to push a country forward and upgrade a nation year after year……..like Aus. Sooooooo you complaining dudes who complain about NOTHING at all………..may we please have your spot down there??????
I promise we wont complain…….and Bob…….you convinced me of an awsome place


BobinOz May 12, 2015 at 7:24 pm

Ger-Jee, wow!

Puts it all into perspective, doesn’t it? And the really sad thing is, there are many many countries who have got it even worse than you have. The world is indeed a crazy place and it is a lottery when it comes to where each one of us is born. I was very lucky to be born in England, a country that is extremely safe. I’ve been even luckier to have managed to secure a move to Australia, another country that is extremely safe and also has sunshine :-)

I, and my family, had been very very lucky and we know it.

You and your family, if you were to manage to secure a move to Australia, will be very lucky too, and I know from what you have written here that you know that as well. I really do hope you make it, this isn’t an easy country to get into, but people do get here; I hope you and your family can become part of that.

So, as you say, what are people really complaining about here? Are they all bored at work? I don’t know what it is, but I tell you something, even though this page has attracted some absolutely ridiculous comments, it does give me a bit of a laugh, and I hope it gives others a laugh as well. Even Fred has given me a laugh, because if we let these sort of things get to us, you know what happens to our blood pressure, don’t you?

Good luck Ger-Jee, and thanks for reminding us all how lucky we are, hope to see you here soon.

Cheers, Bob


jessica coney May 26, 2015 at 12:54 am

I’ve been to Australia and I have to say for me it really sucked! Too expensive! And the companies are greedy as! Anyway the general people inhabiting Australia are awesome! So very friendly and welcoming live a more laid back lifestyle and not as uptight as most other western cultures, I think if you live there then its great but it really wasn’t for me :)


BobinOz May 26, 2015 at 6:36 pm

Well, Australia isn’t for everyone, which is great, because if it was then everyone would want to live here and there would be a very long queue at the post office :-)


jessica coney June 1, 2015 at 12:34 am

But man that country is amazingly beautiful! It sucks I had bad experiences but I guess you can’t have it all lol but as I said amazing kind people and incredible land! I was lucky enough to drive the outback from Melbourne to darwin also, an experience I shall never forget


louisa klimentos May 27, 2015 at 4:39 pm

To Jessica ,It is a shame that the Australian government had made Australia so expensive.If you come to Australia for a holiday ,you are better to get a working visa and then if you do get a job ,you will realise that the Australian wage is high and things won’t seem so expensive


jessica coney June 1, 2015 at 12:30 am

I did absolutely fall in love with country in terms of its beauty and the extraordinary wildlife and as I said honestly I was welcomed in by everyone I met and that certainly means a great deal when you’re in a new country! The people I met in Australia I will never forget and one day I would hope to return for a long visit :) I made a very good friend there who is now travelling the uk. I do believe if you are setting up a life there it would work very well and yes the wages are much higher than in the uk so I would agree that in that way it would most definitely work. It didn’t work well for me at that time but in no way do I feel any negativity, if anything I think its a shame I couldn’t get it work out haha


louisa klimentos June 3, 2015 at 5:34 pm

Jessica you sound like you are a lovely person and deserve happiness in the whole wide world.Enjoy life as much as you can.you see a week ago my son who is a tree lopper fell out of a 15m tree and broke his spine in two places.he is recovering in hospital .The good news is that there is no nerve damage,so he will walk again but needs some physio.He is so lucky because falling down by 15 m can cause really fatal injury and even death.If you ever visit Sydney in the future ,please look me up and i will make the time to take you somewhere.Best of luck in the UK


Harriet May 27, 2015 at 10:03 pm

What about if my hobbies and interests are having something to do with biology and wildlife? Australia is a wonderful place for me! I am just amazed by the diversity of wildlife there! It will be great to move there! It is true that there are some problems but I am definitely not afraid! Thank you for the post!


BobinOz May 28, 2015 at 12:05 am

You would love Australia Harriet, absolutely amazing wildlife.


Norma Sanders June 2, 2015 at 12:39 am

The fact that Australia is so dangerous makes it very awesome! There are many people who are afraid even to visit but for me is really different! I find this place really special and all of the people that I’ve met from Australia seem so friendly! :) I will move there someday!


Rachel June 2, 2015 at 6:34 pm

Yes Norma, i am from australia and it isn’t as dangerous as lots of other places but it is a great country it has lovely weather and the people are defiantly very friendly especially in Perth and darwin i have found. Its a grear place to live


rachel June 2, 2015 at 6:32 pm

This is pretty much all incorrect! Australia is the best country to live in. We have so much freedom in what we can do. The weather is amazing too. Australia’s crime rate is nothing compared to U.S, Mexico, Russia and a lot of other places. We do have some dangerous animals but what place doesn’t. Don’t be such a judgmental Dick. Anyway why would you make a website saying not to live or visit a certain place, it’s just stupid! Everywhere is good to visit and have a holiday its just preference to where you want to live!


BobinOz June 2, 2015 at 8:59 pm

Rachel, I haven’t made a website saying people should not visit a certain place and I actually love Australia, I think it’s a great place to live. This page though, it’s about what somebody else thinks of Australia, it is not representative of this website.

Oh, and finally, my name isn’t Dick :-)

Cheers, Bob


Terry Baccus June 7, 2015 at 11:25 pm

I’m not sure about Fred and his opinion. You can’t really say someones opinion is wrong simply because you don’t agree with it (except politicians!).
Looking at it and a bit of a stretch and tongue in cheek could be sort of how some-one looks at it.
I for one was glad that BobinOz didn’t take it down, as having a negative opinion, to me, enhances the positive one and frankly the way Fred put it gave me a chuckle.


BobinOz June 8, 2015 at 8:31 pm

I think Fred gave us all a chuckle, but I have to say though that having an opinion is different from spreading ridiculous propaganda. For example, the suggestion that people who go to university will get raped is quite ridiculous and is not an opinion, it’s just false information.

I could mention many more instances, but I think most sensible people can work them out for themselves.


Twumbo June 16, 2015 at 2:46 pm

Australia is ok. I’m Australian and live here. It’s frustrating how far behind in everything we are and how much we rely on foreign imports and business.

It’s such a massive land mass that’s pretty much empty except for the coast lines which are dotted with cities and big towns, which again is frustrating since it could be used. I’m surprised a huge Asian company hasn’t bought half our land and actually made something of it. Not sure but we seem to be frozen in time on that one.

Crime is everywhere in the world and if you go looking for trouble you will find it anywhere in the world. There’s a fine and loads of paperwork for EVERYTHING here. Everything is banned here as well which means upsetting millions of people because 5 people whinged about something.

Politicians don’t seem to take their job seriously here either and have a tendency to be favored if they can “neck a beer quicker than Scotty and Barry”.

But you know, there’s not many places where you can walk outside your backyard and hear peace and quiet, friendly neighbours, people who are happy to help and relatively good (sometimes excellent) paying jobs. It’s a place where there’s uncountable numbers of wildlife and rugged landscapes that seem untouched as if no one has ever been. It’s a place where natural beauty is still appreciated over concrete jungles. It’s still developing and growing, slowly perhaps, but by all means its growing one way or another.


BobinOz June 16, 2015 at 5:33 pm

I think being behind it’s a good thing, surely that is a part of preserving natural beauty and trying to fend off the concrete jungle for as long as possible?

As for ‘everything is banned’, I know what you mean, there are a lot of nanny state rules that are absolutely ridiculous and most can be traced back, as you say, to just a small handful of people couldn’t deal with it so now we all have to suffer.

I’d certainly like to see commonsense prevail a bit more often when it comes to some of the silly rules.


Meh June 23, 2015 at 6:11 am

Australians remind me of French Canadians, they are drunk, noisy and angry at everybody at all times. Just look at crime rates and local prejudices for proof.


BobinOz June 23, 2015 at 4:54 pm

Meh indeed…

Meh is an interjection used as an expression of indifference or boredom. It may also mean “be it as it may”. It is often regarded as a verbal shrug of the shoulders. The use of the term “meh” shows that the speaker is apathetic, uninterested, or indifferent to the question or subject at hand.’

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meh


Peter July 9, 2015 at 9:02 pm

I moved to australia and australia is not the country of milk and honey. In the embassy of australia they say they want engineer’s, doctor’s, nurses …….. . When you have diplomas certificates …… . There not good here the government wants you to do it all over again here in australia, what is going to cost thousands of dollars what they forgot to say in the australian embassy. What they also don’t tell that you don’t have pensions if you have more than $300,000 in assets. And if you don’t have it you be getting $250 every 14 days. Then knowing the food bill is more than $200 a week. So the Australian government wants you to work till you at least 75 years old and older and die before you get any thing.
If you work in Australia the taxes are also high for everything and any way they can find the counsel , state and government will bleed you any way they can to get as much as possible from you.
If you self employed well that cost also, you need to get a insurances, public liabilitie, work cover insurance. Then every year you need to do knowledge test and that is for every thing and that cost also. If you have to use a ladder higher than 1.8 m you have to have is $180, forklift 350 + knowledge test $200 . White card $300 . It’s for any thing you use you have to have a knowledge test for everything separate.
Housing you can buy a domp here that will cost you around $350,000 to $400,000
So if you plan to come to Australia look in to everything good


BobinOz July 10, 2015 at 4:09 pm

It’s true, Australia is not a country of milk and honey, I don’t think any of those exist anymore anywhere. And it is also true that many professionals do sometimes have to go through additional training to make sure they comply with Australian regulations within those professions.

Not sure I see to much wrong with that, we have different plumbing standards, different electrical standards, Australian law is different from UK law etc, so it’s only reasonable that people who want to come here and work here are able to comply.

I have no idea what you are on about with regards to pensions and assets, and the tax we pay here is very much in line with the UK, if anything we pay less here.

And I’ve been self-employed in Australia for seven years, never done a knowledge test or been asked to do one and I think it’s wise that most tradesmen should get public liability insurance when they are going into other people’s homes, I think it would be foolish not to have it.

Other than that, yes, I agree, anyone planning to come to Australia should look into everything thoroughly.


Abigail July 15, 2015 at 8:35 pm

Your crazy Australia is a beautiful scenery, housing is amazing living on the beach. So many public and Prrivate schools. Maybe those ten reasons were meant for the USA , stupid country


Vanelle July 22, 2015 at 2:17 am

Reading this and the comments are certainly helping me out with my own decision. I’m currently going to college to become a Dental Hygienist and fell in love with someone who is from Australia; fell in love with them over the year they stayed in the US. We have been together for over 5 years and have been in debate as to what we were going to do, if they should move here or if I should move there.

It has been a very difficult to choose, especially to consider everything before I can make a choice. I’m slowly leaning more towards going to Australia because EVERYTHING close to my heart is in Australia, including all of my favorite animals in the world from sugar gliders, blue penguins, and of course the majestic Galah! I would love to experience it all for myself first hand.

Of course, like anyone else who has never been out of their own country, it’s scary to think about striking out on my own to a place I’ve never been. Especially a place that is half way around the other side of the world from where I live now. But, I’m hoping if I do decide to go, I will be able to hike up my big girl panties and strike out for my adventure to distant lands.


BobinOz July 22, 2015 at 7:52 pm

Well, this probably isn’t the best post I have on this website for accurate comments, but if some of the quite ridiculous things that have been said on here haven’t put you off, then I expect to see you arrive in Australia sometime soon.

Go for it, you won’t be disappointed :-)


claude pierazzi July 24, 2015 at 9:35 pm

I hope this guy is spouting his theories in all the muslim countries and I hope they listen to him.


This guy is an idiot August 7, 2015 at 10:12 am

This guy is absolutely stupid, none of this happens. I have lived in Australia since I was 3 and the place is great! DON’T LISTEN TO HIM!


Tom Kent August 10, 2015 at 3:24 pm

I haven’t read all of this thread, of course it is very long. I will throw my two cents in. Note I have only lived in NZ and Australia (I chose to move here from NZ when I was 24 because I fell in love with it) and haven’t traveled all that widely and only in Asia.

Australia has low crime, is one of the least corrupt countries in the world, is quite efficient, friendly, has a mostly great climate, and a well-educated and mostly liberal population. It has a high cost of living, but also good wages, low poverty, and pretty good employment. Medical care is free or very cheap and from what I have heard, much better than Britain. Dental care is good but expensive. Children are welcome just about everywhere.

I can only think of one reason for not living in Australia really, and that is as Bob says if you really love European culture and history and that sort of conversation. Australians are smart, open, well-educated and well-read, but they are not an intellectual people. Mostly anything older than ten years or so is thrown away, though you may be surprised at all the lovely old houses. I lack enthusiasm for working-class Australians (called Bogans), but my English relatives in Portsmouth are stunningly ill-educated, provincial, and ignorant in a way that would never be accepted in Australia. If you want to bring that type of Eurocentric culture here, stay home! That said, Melbourne has one of the richest cultural lives of any city in the world. It is a UNESCO city of literature, and every single night of every week you have a choice between dozens of poetry, classical music, jazz, techno, live music, dance, libraries, plays, whatever you want, there are literally hundreds of events every single night in the inner city (none in the suburbs) at every possible price point. (I am a classical music composer and poet). Just in the ONE SUBURB I live in there are over 120 restaurants offering twenty different cuisines, in most you would regard $20 per person as insanely expensive. I am a pensioner, live in a medium-sized thee-bedroom rented house in an inner suburb by myself, eat out twice a week and go to shows or meet friends once a week (I am reclusive). There is a fabulous selection of exotic tropical fruit and veg and very cheap. Fresh good produce is easy to get everywhere. I am paying $5.99/kg for good pork loin roast (nb – most suburbs you would pay double that). Drugs are unfortunately in rather short supply but that is improving. The beer on tap is bad, but not nearly as bad as English beer on tap and nothing could be worse than American beer on tap. Many streets in the inner city have literally fifty or sixty great cafes just in a two mile stretch. I doubt that there is any city in the world that has such a concentration of culture. Canberra has no nightlife, but cheap rents and wonderful safe parks filled with amazing wildlife all within a short walk from your house. Sydney has a stunning environment, is one of the world’s great cities, and all the safe bush-walking and great beaches you could want. It feels like an Asian city, which is wonderful, although there is always a danger of Cantonese Pop Music. Please note that Neighbours is fiction. Most Australians even in the suburbs have never met any of their neighbours.

It would be very nice to have Europe at my doorstep, but Australia is a part of Asia which is fantastic, relatively close, vastly cheaper and has fantastic ancient history.

In any warm country, you do have to learn about the various creatures that are anxious to share the warmth and abundance of food with you. Coming from NZ where there is basically nothing dangerous or poisonous at all, I understand the jitteriness. Australians love to tell scary stories and relish the reputation of Australia as full of dangerous creatures. If you are a city person as in fact most Australians are, you will never see any scary creature. Never any snakes. A cat or dog makes short work of a snake. If you are very outdoorsy and like visiting the country, the most important thing is to understand and take normal precautions against ticks, leeches, and especially great big ants, which can give a painful bite. Seeing a snake is a treasured special event.

As with any country in the world except France and perhaps Vietnam and a very few other places, if you mix, mingle, and make it clear that you love the country for its blessings and forgive its faults, people will love you, too.


BobinOz August 10, 2015 at 10:56 pm

I agree with most of what you have to say here, but Australian beer on tap better than English and American? Not a chance!

The best English ales available in traditional British pubs are superior to Aussie beers by a distance. Greene King IPA, Abbott Ale, Old Speckled Hen are all full-bodied beers with great flavour. Most Australian beer is lager based and served cold, very cold, sometimes to a point where taste doesn’t really matter.

When it’s a very hot day, maybe that’s all you want, and sometimes it’s all I want. But on other occasions, I love to sit back and enjoy a classic British beer. I have similarly enjoyed some excellent American ales as well.

Australia does make some great bottled beers and sometimes they do find their way to the tap, but you have to go to a specialist pub for that pleasure. By and large most pub serve Tooheys, XXXX and Hahn and they just don’t compare to what the US and the UK can offer.

For really great beers though, Czechoslovakia is probably your place.

Each to his own though Tom, I’m quite happy to accept you prefer Australian beer, but I know what I prefer.

That aside, you’ve made some great observations, lots of good information in there. Cheers, Bob


Eddie August 27, 2015 at 3:40 am

I Live in South Mexico, dont think Australia is as bad as here ….


BobinOz August 28, 2015 at 8:18 am

Neither do I Eddie, neither do I :-)


Tom Kent August 27, 2015 at 4:03 pm

Oh, I am no expert on beer! To tell you the truth I don’t like beer at all and only join in to please whoever is paying for dinner. I think guys only pretend to like beer because it is supposed to be masculine, in the same way that females pretend to think that white wine is real wine., The only beer I actually LIKE is Samuel Smith, and also Churchill lager, which you can’t get here. I had my first try of Old Speckled Hen yesterday, as it happens, and found it very nice, for beer.

No, what I am saying is that XXXX is better than dishwater like Watney’s, which in turn is better than horse urine like Budweiser. I don’t regard things like Carlton and Fosters as beer, they are alcohol-flavoured soda water. As to the better stuff that might be on tap – in Melbourne there would always be Little Creatures, Fat Yak and…er…goat something, a steam beer that is actually nice, I think they are all probably in a similar range. Apart from Samuel Smith, which is divine nectar with no peer. Most Melbourne pubs would have at least 4-5 artisan beers on tap. And you are totally right about the Czech Republic, though Sri Lanka also has good beer.


BobinOz August 28, 2015 at 8:22 am

I agree with almost everything you say, except…

I say I love beer because I REALLY love beer, not because I think it is masculine to do so. Have you read this post?



Tom Kent August 28, 2015 at 9:14 am

And here I was thinking that English people understood self-deprecating irony! I agree with just about everything you say on that thread. I will comment here, duplicate it on that thread, and henceforward only comment on booze in general on that thread.

You’re completely right about XXXX bitter and about XXXX gold being the best of the poor mass-produced beers. I also like Resch’s Dinner Ale, a lot of people don’t, it can be hard to get. Resch’s Pilsener is also good. I disagree about Squire and Boags, I think they are fake artisan beers, I don’t think much of Boags. Personally I hate India Pale, but that’s a matter of my own taste, it is a good beer. The beer I liked a lot was Mountain Goat Steam Ale, try that if you can. Also Beez Neez. If you are in Sydney pop into the Craig tavern at Darling Harbour and try Craig Strong. Good British beers not being widely available, I would tend to drink German and Dutch beers and Carlsberg, which are, Grolsch especially.

In Melbourne the artist/intellectual crowd universally drink Guinness, man and girl. A pub without Guinness on tap will never attract the arts crowd.

I’m not terribly impressed with most Australian alcohol. The universal white wines are awful. Cab Sav is dire. You’d be much better buying an imported German hock. With considerable hunting it is possible to find excellent red wines, but if you want drinkable cheap reds, get imported Italian or Spanish. If you’re spending $20-30/bottle, I don’t think the best Australian reds have any rivals. Dessert wines and fortified wines are mostly excellent.

Rum is good. Australian brandy is horrible unless you pay top dollar and most places don’t even have it. Whiskey I don’t drink so won’t comment on,in any case, it’s almost all imported. Vodka is mostly disgusting wherever it comes from. Generally speaking anything that comes from Greece or what used to be Yugoslavia is good, no matter how weird the ingredients sound.

If you want to be surprised, nip over to Cambodia or Vietnam and spend $1.00 on a 500 ml bottle of whiskey or vodka produced in those countries. You might be very surprised indeed.


Tom Kent August 28, 2015 at 10:12 am

I just read that a beer produced by Mountain Goat (MG Barley) was voted best Australian beer at the AIG International Awards, which has 1700 submissions. Top world beer went to Speight’s 5 Malt Old Dark from Lion Breweries in Auckland, NZ. I haven’t tried it but I bet they’re right. Try Tui (not Toohey) NZ stout as well.


BobinOz August 29, 2015 at 4:36 pm

Haha, well your irony was too subtle for me :-), anyway, this conversation is, as you say, best now switched to here…



BILL DOWD September 1, 2015 at 8:08 am

Australia is the best country in the world. I have been to several other overseas countries . Europe is beautiful but too expensive, Canada is beautiful but too cold. USA there is too much crime and violence . India everybody wants to rip you off because you are a tourist. The same goes with Indonesia .Jakarta is a rat infested hole where the traffic is unbelievable.
The only country that comes anywhere near to Australia for liveability is New Zealand .However, the weather is not as good as in Australia and things are more expensive.
Any person who migrates to Australia from overseas and lives here for a few years can hardly wait to get back here after they go home for a holiday.


BobinOz September 1, 2015 at 4:44 pm

Nice round up of the world Bill, thanks. Not been to NZ yet, it’s on my to do list, and soon.


Jared September 1, 2015 at 10:07 pm

I had actually changed my plans from living is oz to living in NZ. as i currently reside in Hawaii. which is too small and overcrowded. and has a stricter version of US car laws. no race track to speak of. no support for us gear heads. I originally intended on oz due to the world market allowing most cars we can never dream of getting in the US until they’re ancient to be imported there. (yes it sounds dumb but this is what my life revolves around). Until i been told Oz is unimaginably strict with their modified car laws like Hawaii but worse. Cars getting crushed? taken away for a late rego? extra taxes for a quick car? lower your vehicle and it gets confiscated or you get ticketed?

Sounds like a gear head’s ironic hell. all those cars they have access to and no freedom to enjoy them?. NZ is truly the land of the free for my kind from everyone i’ve spoken to. And it’s like a “Super Hawaii”. much bigger, more to explore. don’t feel like you’re in a fishbowl. yet i don’t need to sacrifice my beaches and island weather.


Jared September 1, 2015 at 10:08 pm

actually, I know NZ is up the butt expensive, but so is Hawaii. nothing different there. So i’ll take that upgrade.


BobinOz September 2, 2015 at 3:10 pm

I’m not a gear head, but my understanding is the higher car tax is not for a quicker car, it’s because the car is not so environmentally friendly. Most modern countries have similar car taxing systems.


Abor September 3, 2015 at 6:35 am

yass finally! someone speaking my language :)
aus is a great place aint it mate


Andrew September 2, 2015 at 7:45 pm

I was born in the UK til 17 then moved to Toronto Canada with the family. Lived there for 38 years. Toronto is bloody freezing in Winter -15-30 degrees and bloody humid in the summer. Not good for someone in my condition – RA and Osteoarthritis. I’ve been in Oz for almost 3 years now and my condition is much better. Yes I still have my condition however the pain is less that 15% on a daily basis as opposed to 65-80%.

I love this country and yes I do miss my family (kid) in Toronto, however for health reasons I’d NEVER go back unless for a visit.


BobinOz September 3, 2015 at 5:54 pm

Can’t beat a bit of warmer weather to combat RA and Osteoarthritis, another bonus of living in Australia:-)

Welcome Andrew, I hope Australia continues to treat you well.


Bozdar September 4, 2015 at 8:27 am

This article was written four years ago and is still being commented. That’s really great! But I am curious, how Australia has developed in these years? According to social media and newspapers, (most of the) Australians have developed racial behaviour. For example: Indigenous to Chinese where Whites toward non-whites. Also, there are religious problems. Muslims are hating Christians and vice versa. My cousin is living in Brisbane and I am thinking to move Victoria (somewhere in Melbourne or Geelong).


BobinOz September 4, 2015 at 5:27 pm

Nothing significant has changed in those 4 years. As for the religious matter you have mentioned, I’m not if you’ve noticed or not, but that’s currently a bit of an increasing worldwide problem for some.

Australia can’t be singled out for this one and in fact after the Lindt hostage killings, many Australians openly supported Muslims in public to defend them against the minority who thought it was a good idea to give them a hard time.


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