10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to Australia

by BobinOz on July 1, 2011

in Australia's Bad Things

As you saw from Wednesday’s post, the OECD has found Australia the best country in the world to live in. But that is not an opinion shared by everybody.

For some time I have been working on a post called ’10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to Australia’. When I say “working on”, what I mean is I have had the idea, created a notepad with the title and every now and then, when I think of a reason, I add it to the list.

In three years, this is as far as I have got…..

1. Your favourite hobby is history/archaeology.
2. You are allergic to golden sandy beaches.

That’s it!

But where I have struggled with this, a guy called Fred has had no problems in compiling his list. Fred contacted me recently via my YouTube channel with a request for me to allow his video as a “video response” to one of my videos.

I emailed Fred back and told him what I would really like to do is a feature post about his blog, even though I did not agree with a single thing on his website. I also explained I would very likely be taking the Mickey out of what he has said and asked if he was okay with that. I also mentioned that I could not work out whether his website was serious or a complete joke.

Fred replied he was happy for me to go ahead and also said “My website is just a tool to make prospective migrants know some facts before making their mind. I am just trying to do good here. Don’t forget that I mentioned that I have met some good people in Oz as well. To me the main problem was nature, not people. So the only fix was to leave. Wish you a good life in Oz.”

So, he is up for it and, apparently, his website is serious. So let us get stuck in.

On occasions  I have been accused of looking at Australia with rose tinted glasses. I have never really understood that idiom, but I do know it means I only (apparently) see the best side of this country.

Well, here is Fred with his view which is surely the worst side.

10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to Australia

What I am going to do here is run through each of Fred’s 10 points, summarise them in my own words and give you one short Fred quote from it. But to get the full flavour of Fred’s wonderful website, you really should visit it for yourself and read it all.

It’s only a one-page website and will take you less than 5 minutes and that includes pauses for laughter. Here goes…

1- UV Radiation

Apparently, to protect ourselves from these dangers, those of us here in Australia have to avoid the sun, wear long sleeves and trousers, big hats, slap on the sunscreen every couple of hours and wear dark glasses.

Mooloolaba Sun Avoidance 10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to AustraliaWell, I’m not buying that one.

It is not just us people who suffer either, according to Fred “Trees look sad.”

2- Pests

Cockroaches, snakes, rats and spiders are mentioned here and Fred feels that not even pest control can stop “the spider from building its home so quickly every day. They can’t stop it from checking your mail…”

Spiders checking my mail?

3- People

Fred’s general opinion of Australian people isn’t good. A top contender for best quote in this section was where he mentions the likelihood of being attacked with glass or something. But my favourite sentence of them all was the one just after he mentions having met some highly educated people who he thought were normal. He continues “However, the rest of them are divided into old people and young people. Old people are OK because they can’t fight!”

4- Cost of Life

Fred thinks Australia is expensive. He has some ideas why this is and explains it with this…. “One reason behind it is that the government pays for babies.”

5- Location

It is not just Australia is a long way away from so many other countries, but even getting about within Australia is tough because there are “not enough gas stations either.”

6- Health Care

sick 480x425 10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to AustraliaOur health care system is funny and dental costs crazy. Waiting times are too long; expect to wait all night at ER. And, according to Fred, “Some small service centers are at par with developing countries.”

7- Roads

Bad, bad, bad roads! Roundabouts everywhere, even on the highways. You must visit his website if only to find out about our terrible roads. As he says “I have seen better roads in many places except Srilanka!”

8- Education

Universities are public and everyone studies for free, apparently. But the bad news is they are not safe and, according to Fred, you will probably be raped at night. Which leads me to my favourite quote from this one. “Of course there is no punishment or law.”

9- Housing

aussie house 480x315 10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to AustraliaBad, bad, bad housing! Houses are old and badly maintained because people want to spend their money on drink instead. But that is not the real problem with houses. No. There is a government conspiracy. According to Fred “Actually the government forbids new buildings so as to keep the price high, but the quality drops!”

There is a lot more information on Fred’s site about the housing, and I know I have already said you must visit his website if only to find out about the terrible roads. But now I am thinking, maybe you should only visit his website to find out about the terrible housing.

Hey! Why not visit his website to find out about both?

10- Crime

In Australia, teenagers attack old people all the time. It is a risk to go out at night. These teenagers get money directly from the government. And if you think all that sounds horrific enough, as Fred says, “There is no arrest, no law enforcement, nothing!”

Dang!

So there you have it. 10 reasons why not to move to Australia according to Fred. I don’t agree with any of it. Having said that, I think Fred’s site is as funny as any I’ve seen. So I thank him for making me laugh.

But this really is just a very brief overview of his 10 reasons; Fred puts it so much better than I do. I highly recommend you pop over to his website and take a few minutes to read and digest it all.

Fred also gives a bonus 11th reason which I won’t reveal here. So why not go to go to NotAustralia?

Update:

No point in clicking that link anymore, Freds website was taken down by the hosts. Last time I was able to click through, I saw the following message…

“We’re sorry, this site is frozen.
If you are the site owner, please contact our abuse team regarding the status of your website.”

Seems we weren’t the only ones who found Freds opinions offensive icon smile 10 Reasons Why NOT to Move to Australia

Here’s his video:

No it isn’t.

Update 2: Fred removed his video from YouTube and explained why in a comment on this very page. You can see that comment somewhere below, a long long way below, underneath all the other yummy comments. Look for one by Fred sometime in June 2014.

Now, for those of you who can’t sleep at night worrying what that 11th bonus reason was, I’m going to reprint it here.

From the now taken down Not Australia website, this sums it all up really…

11- Bonus reason!

Most of Australia is dry and there are a lot of bush fires and house fires. An additional reason is the abnormally high intensity of sun radiation which makes this risk even bigger. Sandstorms come from the desert as well.

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{ 231 comments… read them below or add one }

Rupert July 2, 2011 at 7:20 pm

Bob – this guy is certifiable.

His English is of pre-school level and the content of his so-called website is beyond a joke – it is actually quite sad.

Anyway, this moron doesn’t deserve any more of my energy or time, so I’m off to throw glass at some drunk teenagers… that’ll learn ‘em!

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Shelly July 5, 2013 at 9:44 am

Australia is a drunk. Thats all.

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Zach February 28, 2014 at 9:11 am

I currently live in Australia, there are places that i would not dare go, due to not knowing the ways to get there! but not all of Australia is described in these top 10 issues.. I have seen more violence in states of the US and other countries compared to Australia. I currently live in Surfers Paradise which is on the eastern side of Australia. Your more likely to get attacked/robbed in the US before Australia.

Im looking at moving to California next, but have been told by so many people that its a dirty place to live.. I’m ignoring other peoples opinions and will experience it myself..

Im Italian/Irish, I love to eat and drink.. Australia is a great place, I do agree that they like to drink, but i know some people here that do not “work to live” considering the minimum wage is twice that of America.

So my end rant would be.. Experience it yourself..

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BobinOz March 1, 2014 at 10:10 pm

And just to put that comment into perspective, Surfers Paradise has a reputation for high crime here in Australia; relative to Australia, maybe it has, but it’s pretty safe compared with some other countries.

Thanks for your contribution Zach.

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Zach March 2, 2014 at 9:13 pm

BobinOz…

Every Country/State has a reputation for “high crime”.. Surfers Paradise is the City of the Gold Coast the same as any other city in any other Country/State.. Look in the news today… “Death toll mounts after fatal knife attack in Chinese train station”.. this crazy stuff would never happen in Australia..

Again.. Australia isn’t the Middle east or any other Country at war..

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Pitter March 29, 2014 at 3:45 pm

Zach,

California is beautiful. Especially, Malibu, Ventura and Ojai valleys at LA are just incredible places. Again, it depends on what exactly you are looking for enjoyment, but yeah as you said, there is crime rate in LA or SFO too.. so be it.. because every country has it. I am from India, I live in USA, but am planning to move to Australia. I am just waiting to experience it :)

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Lib March 26, 2014 at 5:08 pm

I live in California and I want to move to Australia,hence how I landed on this article.
Anyway California is lovely you will enjoy it and I suggest you check it out for yourself. Its like any place some areas are ok, while others are questionable.
I have never been to Straya but I hope to be in Melbourne! Gold Coast, Bondi Beach, Perth! What a lovely country you have!

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James June 17, 2014 at 4:51 pm

Don’t listen to stupid blogs written by non Aussie people listen to an Australian person because they live there not holiday,if you read my comment that’s my review saying why Australia is good.

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Mabel May 4, 2014 at 6:14 am

Australia is amazing! Why do you think this country is terrible I have lived in Australia my whole life and I have never seen anything bad about it!

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BobinOz May 5, 2014 at 6:32 pm

Who are you asking your question to Mabel? Most of us here love Australia as well, and if it’s Fred you’re asking, we’ve not seen much of him around here.

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Hector July 3, 2011 at 12:12 am

Hello Bob

Glad to see you don’t agree with him, else is not good news.

As Rupert said, I don’t trust about what Fred said

Regards,

Hector

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Gordon July 3, 2011 at 10:15 pm

He forgot to mention the volcanoes , the tornados , the dropbears , the bogans , the Yowies , the ever present peril of New Zealand winning the footy !

In his defence , dental IS expensive , he got that right.

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BobinOz July 4, 2011 at 2:05 pm

Well I did send a link to this post over to Fred, also inviting him to join in on this conversation. Today I got a reply from him which said “I have checked it out and thank you for the nice presentation. Anytime I have time I will pop into your discussions!”

I think it would be nice to have him join in. He seems harmless enough, but has obviously had a very bad experience here in Australia.

Personally, I’m not sure if he is certifiable or a comic genius. You did all get a laugh from reading his ideas didn’t you?

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Brooke, WhyGo Australia July 5, 2011 at 3:43 pm

Look, I love Oz and all, but you know what… he’s right on a few of those points. Yeah, the skin cancer, the cost of living and being so far away from the rest of the world are all big in my book… but they haven’t tipped the scales just yet.

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BobinOz July 7, 2011 at 2:07 pm

You didn’t think there was any exaggeration then :-)

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Rupert July 7, 2011 at 8:08 pm

Brooke, getting skin cancer is about as likely as get any other form of cancer. Cancer just happens to be a tragic part of life wherever you live.

Yes Sydney is expensive, but more so than London? With the current exchange rates, yes. But with the earning potential in Australia, I think the cost of living is pretty relative to other advanced First World nations.

Being far away from the rest of the world? Well if you pop over to Paris or Amsterdam for weekend breaks regularly, then yes, of course you’re right, but truthfully, who really does that? Personally I’d like to get away from the rest of the world for a while and Australia seems to fit the bill.

One thing that Bob will be able to help with… I’ve heard the build quality of houses can be hit and miss and that the smart money is on building your own house to your own spec. It can be much, much cheaper (if you can afford the land in the first place), and much more satisfying.

What say you Bobster?

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BobinOz July 10, 2011 at 3:13 pm

One more thing about cancer; a friend of mine was round last night and for some reason we started talking about it. He has been checked for skin cancer in both England and here in Australia. In his view, the people who checked him over in England were a bit “hit and miss” as he put it, whereas he felt the Australians were very thorough, checking each and every centimetre of his body with a microscope and at times applying special liquids.

So whilst chances of getting it here might be higher, treatment may well be better too.

As for building a house on a plot of land, I’m not sure if it’s a big money saver, but you do get to choose your builder and house plans. Just like in England, here we have both bulk builders and prestige builders. Land prices vary a good deal, as you can imagine. But around here, expect to pay at least $200,000 and then you can probably build a decent four bedroom single-storey house with double garage starting at about $160,000.

If that were the end of it, it would be a cheap house. But it isn’t. Once you’ve bought the land, you have to supply services to it, water, electricity and telephony, then sewerage and put the driveway over the top of it. You have to pay “contributions to council infrastructure” often referred to as head works. These fees can be up to $40,000 for a house. Depending on your plot, choice of house and cost of adding these services, you will now probably looking at around $480,000 all in.

Well, there are plenty of houses for sale around here for that money. But here, Australians put a premium on new houses, in as much as a new house is always preferred over a “second-hand” house. To me, that didn’t appear to be the case so much in England.

All this is just my opinion, of course, not hard fact and very much based on loose figures.

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Benji October 8, 2013 at 3:56 pm

Even in some of the wastelands in the USA, $200,000 for a four bedroom is starting to become rare! I work nearly 100 hours a week, not by choice, and all my work is going offshore….

Maybe it’s time for me to go offshore with my degree to Oz….You got me hooked bob..

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BobinOz October 9, 2013 at 2:36 pm

Houses aren’t cheap here either, but wages are considerably higher which makes a fair difference. 100 hours a week, man that’s way too many.

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Victoria July 21, 2011 at 11:13 pm

I am an Aussie who has been living in London for 2.5 years. Since moving here I have been robbed of my deposits from landlords (£2500) because the UK has no law in place to protect tenants (well one that is new and changes to suit each case), housing in London is appalling and a rip off plus having to live with so many people to cut the costs, my husband and I were attacked by 5 masked men in our home who stole his wedding ring right after they bashed him, not made one friend who I can say I trust and as for free medical or the NHS – absolute joke having to wait up to 3 weeks to get an appointment to see a GP. Why am I still here – because of work commitments but I am 100% sure that Australia is by far the better country to live in. Going home this year 2011 for good and will never be back to this ruined place – funny how every British born person you meet bangs on how crap it is here and if they could they would leave……WHATEVER FRED

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BobinOz July 22, 2011 at 9:46 pm

I am so sorry that the people from my homeland have treated you so appallingly. But not surprised, there are some very dodgy areas in London. Where abouts are you?

And the NHS was once the envy of the rest of the world, I’m not so sure these days. Anyway, it sounds like you’ll be back in Australia sometime soon, probably as soon as you can. I don’t blame you, but on the other hand, I shan’t be returning to England, that’s for sure.

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Gavin September 11, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Victoria, you must understand that england is a diverse country. You can not discuss London as an example of England, I can assure you it is very very different to living on the beach in Cornwall or in a lesser populated and far cheaper, friendlier city. There are about 60 cities in the UK to experience, many different by culture, buzz, price, demographic etc!

This judging England by London is very popular in Australia, in fact, most countries get judged by their capital cities, is this an urban Australian syndrome? or the fact that there just isn’t as much difference between Australians of different Australian cities maybe.

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Martin June 13, 2013 at 10:40 am

Please open your eyes and don’t bring holiday destinations into this. If you look cu general life as a family, working, housing etc. Then Australia leaves England in the gutter. Probably as much as 70% of England needs knocking down and rebuilding. Our motorway infrastructure is far from adequate, our road quality is pathetic considering the road tax and fuel costs. I am from England and can gladly say i am leaving this rising damp rotten country for Australia permanently. Not bitter but will be glad to see the back of it.

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Lilly April 12, 2012 at 9:25 pm

What a load of crap!

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BobinOz April 13, 2012 at 12:58 am

Maybe it is Lilly, but what exactly? Can you be more precise?

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Fausto May 25, 2012 at 8:29 pm

I don’t know where this idiot get all that information from.
95% is bull.

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BobinOz May 25, 2012 at 9:19 pm

You are not the only one to think so Fausto, his website has been taken down by the company that hosted it and he has been invited to contact the “abuse team” to talk about it.

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Fausto May 26, 2012 at 12:17 am

Good

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Josh June 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm

Australians are very good at self promotion and tend to be self satisfied. They are desperate to be seen to be the best.

The way the indigenous people have been treated (and are treated) is a disgrace. Until that is rectified Australia has nothing to be satisfied about.

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BobinOz June 4, 2012 at 12:22 am

And what satisfies you Josh? Pigeon holing entire nations?

Please do tell me which country you live in and I’ll see if I can come up with four ridiculous sentences to sum up everybody from your part of the world.

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Rupert June 4, 2012 at 7:16 am

Nicely said Bob – I couldn’t agree more.

PS Just landed in Sydney to begin the adventure. We pick up the cats on Saturday (and I’ll pay your misses as soon as I have internet banking!)

Woohoo :-)

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BobinOz June 4, 2012 at 6:37 pm

Congratulations Rupert and welcome to Sydney. I hope you all, including your cats, settle in quickly. Let me know what you think of it when you get the chance. Cheers!

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ozkie June 29, 2014 at 3:37 am

im part aboriginal i was born and raised in Australia and i moved to the states i have seen alot you think the natives of australia r treated bad yes they could be treated better but sometimes it is by choice they could get themselves better education which is free to them like i got but alot of them dont care about education they rather drink booze u should see how the native indians in the USA r treated here its a total joke. australian aboriginals r treated alot better.

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BobinOz June 29, 2014 at 10:12 pm

Hi ozkie

Australia and Australians often get an ear bashing from outsiders (some from the USA as well) quick to judge our treatment of aboriginals, so it’s good to hear your thoughts considering your background.

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Josh June 4, 2012 at 12:41 pm

I note Bob that you don’t disagree with my views – rather you try to deflect the argument to where I come from.

Reminder: this blog (which you established) is about Australia (and this page is about why not to live in Australia).

If you need some help, here’s a start: the indigenous were hunted like animals. They were not counted on the census nor could they vote until the second half of last century. Until the High Court Mabo decision of 1992 white Australia did not recognise that the Indigenous people had any lawful entitlement over land (a little strange given they have occupied the continent for thousands of years). And more generally – the 2005 Cronulla riots – most likely an extension of the sentiment shown towards the indigenous people.

Stay on message Bob.

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BobinOz June 4, 2012 at 6:40 pm

I did stay on message Josh, your message. I wasn’t trying to deflect the argument either, I was just showing the stupidity of your comments by asking a rhetorical question.

This post, in case you didn’t realise, is about an guy called Fred who has made a lot of derogatory comments about Australia and Australians. Then you come along and make more derogatory comments about Australians.

Since when have Australians been “good at self-promotion and tend to be self-satisfied’ and since when have they been “desperate to be seen as the best”? Since you decided it in your head, I suspect.

This post is not about the plight of Australia’s indigenous people; nobody mentioned them until you came along.

You are the one who should stay on subject.

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Josh June 4, 2012 at 8:27 pm

The fact that you fail to mention the indigenous people’s history and current plight says a lot (BTW these are the people you refer to as “them”). These people have the oldest uninterrupted culture in the world – but silly me, how could this possibly compete with such other things as having “nicer” beaches than the U.K?

I love how websites like choose to air brush situations – you would think Australia was Nirvana when clearly no country is.

There is more to life than sunshine and barbies (and by the way, where I live has more sunshine hours and hotter summers than Brisbane.)

Regarding Australia and self promotion and the like – since you asked, here’s a few examples:

1. The flotilla down the Thames for the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee was supposed to include a number of boats full of “Aussie” life guards – all being the “closest” to the Queen (that’s if you believe the media in “OZ”). A load of crock that proved to be.

2. In 1984 Australia could not stomach being “beaten” by NZ at the Olympics so it established the Australian Institute of sport.

3. In Dec last year when NZ won the final cricket test against Australia in Hobart the team and the country’s rhetoric was offensive towards NZ’s team to say the least. Clarke (“Pup”) could not bring himself to even mention NZ’s success during the after match speeches.

4. Wayne Swan (“the World’s best Treasure” – yeah right) believes a recent report from the OECD proves that Australia’s economy is the envy of the west (what he fails to mention is that this report has a number of assumptions that if not realised are likely to wipe the smile off his face).

5. As you may know (but then again not) the track “Somebody that I used to Know” is an international hit. It’s sung by Gotre who was actually born in Belgium but lives in Australia – the Australians tend to forget about the Belgium link. Moreover, Kimbra, the young woman who accompanies Gotre (and without whom the song would be a shadow of itself) is barely mentioned in Australia – perhaps that’s because she is a New Zealander?)

OMG – I detect a degree of self satisfaction!

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BobinOz June 5, 2012 at 1:05 am

The funny thing is Josh, this is my blog, and if I want to talk about beaches, then I talk about beaches. If I decide to talk about indigenous people, then that’s what I’ll talk about. You don’t get to decide for me. That’s the way it goes.

If you really do want to decide what gets talked about, then you would need to start your own blog.

Maybe you could call your blog “Strange thoughts that pop into my head by Josh, the (I’m taking a wild guess here) New Zealander who now (according to the geological location embedded in your email communication, surely you knew about that?) lives in Perth although he hates Australians, Australia, and doesn’t think much of beaches, barbecues or sunshine.

Now, you’ve wound me up and I have wound you up. It’s a draw. If you want to continue commenting on my blog, stay on subject. The subject is not indigenous people, it’s not Wayne Swan, it’s not the Queen’s Jubilee nor is it anything to do with sport.

My blog will not be a platform for your rants, please bear that in mind should you decide to comment again.

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Kieran September 24, 2012 at 9:23 am

What are you on about? Do you think any that most Australians sit around and ignore the aboriginal plight whenever it comes up and just go watch footy or something?
It’s easy to act righteous when you’re behind a computer.

Oh no, a few famous people made you feel about living in NZ, you’re right, Australia’s a hell-hole.

(Kimbra’s incredibly popular here dude, she played a full solo set at the Australian National University for orientation week before touring. You’re an idiot).

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Kiera June 5, 2012 at 4:19 pm

Huntsman spiders always live in my letter box. Once we even had a green tree frog living in it. ;D

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BobinOz June 6, 2012 at 12:33 am

Maybe he’s expecting a letter? Not the spider, that would be ridiculous. The green tree frog.

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Josh June 5, 2012 at 4:26 pm

Dear Bob,

It’s good to know that so long as there is a “nice” beach handy and sunshine nothing else matters in life. I’m sure those in peril will be reassured, like the poor Syrians for instance – the key to their plight has a simple answer.

Perhaps your work is complete Bob?

BTW, you will note that I said in my previous comment that NO [emphasis added] country is Nirvana and I detect self-satisfaction by me. I think this is material (important) in terms of how you might wish to interpret my comments.

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BobinOz June 6, 2012 at 12:37 am

I’m hoping your work is complete Josh. Syria? Whatever next? Nothing would be nice.

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Barney January 31, 2013 at 1:25 am

Um Josh did you google that? Because most of what you are saying isn’t 100% right. Maybe you should come over and see for yourself what’s it’s like to live here. It seems to me that you think we just drink and have BBQ’s all the time, well we do you want to know why? It’s called relaxing after a hard days work. I don’t know why you are so up tight about everything. To have a go at us for how the aboriginals were treated, it may of escapes your knowledge that it was not any Australian but the European’s and Americans that moved here. You should of read about that on google. And FYI the aboriginals get treated pretty blood good these days. So I will be looking for your apology when I’m next on here.

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BobinOz January 31, 2013 at 8:32 pm

Good luck with that Barney, I think you’ll be waiting quite some time, not sure Josh is the apologising kind of guy :-)

Cheers

Bob

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tanya June 15, 2012 at 12:26 am

im an australian and i moved to america over 7 years ago and i can tell u australia is so much better place to live fred wes saying crime with teens r high there lol in america there r more serial killers and gang violence here than anywhere in the world pretty sad. 2 nd atleast australia have socialized health care if your not rich here and cant afford to c a doc then ur s**t out of luck americans dont really care about their hard working ppl. couple things i do agree with him is paying teens to have babies we really need to stop that babies having babies is a problem yes bug problems is bad there but so is it here though spiders r alot bigger there i agree bit it doesnt matter where u r u are never 3 feet from a spider of some kind in ur whole life anyway. dental care is high but so is it here housing prises r high but like i said again its just like here. ppl in australia

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tanya June 15, 2012 at 12:51 am

ive noticed that ppl in australia r more free yes australia has their problems but the good over weighs the bad since ive been here i have never got my deposit back from the houses i have rented from and i clean the house better than i moved in. i use to leave my house unlocked at night when i lived in australia but here there is no way i would do that. i feel safer walking through a park at night than i during the day here. and the roads yes some r bad but just like anywhere roads can be bad but that doesnt make australia a bad place to live lol ive noticed australia is much cleaner than here the first day i arrived here i seen this woman throw out a trash bag out of her 2 story window onto the road diapers fell out of the bag it was so nasty i was horrified when i saw that. atleast u can go fishing without having to get a licence there everything in america cost money and also the amount of homeless ppl here is out of control atleast it isnt as bad in australia and atleast the government is paying ppl to further their education ur out of luck here

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BobinOz June 17, 2012 at 8:17 pm

Thanks Tanya, sounds like you are giving the thumbs up to Australia over the USA. Incidentally, I’ve heard a few people mention that about house rental deposits, I think it’s a sad trick of some of the rental agencies to try and keep your deposit even if you do leave the house clean and spotless.

I say to you and everybody, complain and fight it. And don’t stop until you get your money back.

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Kat June 17, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Bob, I stumbled across your website this weekend and I have to say, it’s kept me highly amused for a good part of the weekend. Great site – thanks! :)

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BobinOz June 17, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Thanks Kat, glad to hear I have put a smile on your face this weekend.

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Nina June 19, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Dear bob,

Thank you for the blogs. Found loads of info which is helpful as I was contemplating on moving to Australia. ( perhaps somewhere not too busy like Robina. Had a wonderful time in Sydney and gold coast a few years back …now looking at some real estate websites…

Thanks bob ( and all the contributors)

Nina nordin

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BobinOz June 20, 2012 at 1:08 pm

Glad to have been of help Nina! Happy househunting :-)

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Anil kumar T.M June 21, 2012 at 1:24 pm

Hi,

My name in Anil, from Bangalore (India) wanted to move to Australia, i have got through IELTS Exam and wanted to know what is the proceedure to get a job in Accounts and finance field.

Also wanted to know how much cash i should take initially for 3 months expenditure including Food and accommodation charges.

It will be great if i come to know any consultancy number where they help us to recruit through overseas.

Thanks in advance for your time and support.

Regards,
Anil kumar T.M
+91 9945194579

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BobinOz June 22, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Check out the links here, Migration Advice, lots of good information via the links.

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Charli July 20, 2012 at 2:49 pm

Seriously? Does he even live in Australia?
1. Um not everywhere is sunny. I live in Melbourne and man it doesn’t get very sunny, the weather is so unpredictable but not hot at all. However in summer it can, but places like Darwin and Sydney get hotter than down South.
As for the covering up bit? What?? You just put sunscreen on and a hat and you’ll be fine!
2. Doesn’t everywhere have pests like those? I mean we don’t encounter them that often at all.
3.Fighting? That isn’t a big problem at all.
4. It isn’t that expensive, well not if you have a job! I think the US costs more does it?
5. Gas stations? Obviously you haven’t been to Australia, we call them petrol stations. And there are plenty of them, unless you go central Australia in the outback.
6. I have to agree it is expensive for the dentist but the government gives everyone one free checkup each year to encourage people to. And yes waiting times are long but deal with it. There are alot of other people waiting too!
7. How are the roads bad??
8. Dude education isn’t free at uni. Most people can’t pay it at the time so they lay it throughout their life when they can repay the university. Public schools are free (I think) or very cheap at least. I go to a private school that isn’t very cheap though..
And of course there is law! Try riding on a bike with no helmet and see what happens. You may get fined a few hundred
9. Housing?? Some houses are top notch and others are government houses that aren’t that good. All the houses are different!
10. Crime? Get out of here dude, you need a life.

I don’t know why I bothered wasting my time to respond to that.

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BobinOz July 20, 2012 at 10:36 pm

Well, if he does live in Australia, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have too many friends.

Thanks for taking the time to respond even though you don’t know why you bothered :-) I don’t think Fred knows how amusing he is and how much fun he has given us all.

Fred site, as I think I’ve never mentioned somewhere else in these comments, has now been taken down by the hosts. I can’t think why.

Cheers dude!

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Phillip August 4, 2012 at 7:01 pm

Fred’s an idiot. I’m positive he hasn’t been to Australia.
Who cares how big Australia is, it’s not like my university is in New South Wales and my local GP is in Western Australia. He thinks everything’s scattered around the country.
But the biggest hint that he hasn’t been here even for a day, is that he says going to university is for free. I’m a uni student. You have the choice to not pay up front for uni and the government gives you a LOAN with no interest (although inflation does apply obviously) which you can pay back when your income hits a certain threshold. A nice system.
I also have not been raped or injured or abused at university. Again, this guy’s an idiot.
About the pests, again he mustn’t have been here, or else he would have noticed a large lack of pests upon arrival at any of the airports in the Australian cities, as well as when living or driving several hours out of these cities. So he’s seen Croc Dundee a few times on the TV…
Crime’s everywhere in the world but to say there’s no law enforcement.. an hour in any of the major cities and he would have been police walking around everywhere, even more so at night. We have courts, police, even water!
Houses… some are good, some aren’t. It’s like that I’m sure… in the ENTIRE WORLD!

Sun.. not enough. If you’re out every day at a beach during summer, well I guess you’re not seeing a lot of Australia, however even then, the amount of rainy days in summers in Melbourne are always increasing. Our last Christmas had a giant hail storm.

People are like anywhere else, there are arseholes and there are nice people. If anyone gives you the story on drunk and racist Australians, download and watch the recent documentary series “Dumb, Drunk and Racist” which took a bunch of people from India around Australia to see what would happen. I’m sure you can find it on Filestube or wherever. About 5 or 6 episodes I think.

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Phillip August 4, 2012 at 7:05 pm

P.S About the health care system, it’s a neat system called Medicare. Not great but not bloody bad. Doesn’t cost me a cent to see a doctor, and medication is cheap if you’re a student, pensioner, and whatever other concession categories there are. Dental is cheap if you go to a community dentist but they do a bad job. Expensive if private dentist but great job.
If Fred was in Australia he’d know or would have at least heard about it.

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BobinOz August 6, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Hi Philip

Interesting theory, you may well have a point! Maybe Fred is an armchair critic, maybe he did get all of his information from a Crocodile Dundee film or perhaps even from some early episodes of Skippy! Maybe he has never been to Australia at all.

If he has been here though, I’d love to know where he went and how long he stayed there, because he certainly does have a strange and twisted view of Australia.

Not twisted in his mind though, one of the things he said to me when I contacted him was “I am just trying to do good here.”

You’ve got to admit, that’s funny!

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Super September 12, 2012 at 2:07 am

Dingoes ! you forgot to mention them Fredingo :)

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BobinOz September 12, 2012 at 3:37 pm

That’ll be in his new website, 20 reasons NOT to move to Australia.

I can’t wait :-)

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Johnny September 22, 2012 at 4:44 am

I live in Australia and am from the younger generation and I have shown this blog 2 hundreds of friends and sorry to put it bluntly but a lot of this is true to some degree.

UV – australia has one of the worst oz layers in the world and is the leading nation for skin cancer, that’s a fact and can’t be argued with even if you don’t like it.

Pests- we have a massive pest problem. Rabbits and foxes are devastating to the environment here as well as carp in our rivers, also spiders is a problem and yes the little buggers are often in the mail box.

People- this part is right and wrong, most Aussies are very friendly and lovely however there is no question that the young generation are obsessed with being hard and causing trouble especially after house parties to go and destroy property and quarrel with the cops. Ask in cop and they will tell you that today’s kids have the worst crime of any generation to date and they even just had a thing on today tonight about it.

Cost of life- not to bad but yea the baby bonus is just messed up, go to browns plains and similar and you will see more prams at the shopping centre than shopping trolleys and the age of the girls is disgusting!

Location- this is wrong as petrol stations are very where so not sure what he is on about with that????

Health care- again this is 2 parts. Yes dental here is one of the highest of any country in the world however our Medicare system is great and really does help and works well

Roads- roads are really good and looked after only bad thing is traffic!!! Get caught on the monash at the wrong time and you will be sorry……..!!!!!!

Education- have no idea what he is on about, UNI is top notch and very very very safe, all that rape stuff is not correct and total crap!!!!

Housing- not to bad at all but is expensive however every major city in the world is expensive in the cities as your paying to be in the middle of everything you need

Crime- unfortunelty crime is getting worse and very dramatically. However our crime Is more alon the lines of violent attacks by youths and theft

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BobinOz September 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm

Yes Johnny, a lot of it is “true to some degree”. But a lot of what Fred said was wildly off the mark and quite ridiculous. It’s a shame, in a strange way, that his website was taken down, otherwise you could have seen for yourself how he presented his case.

Nobody is suggesting Australia is a perfect paradise, but to say things like houses are badly maintained because everyone prefers to spend their money on drink instead, just shows how stupid some of it was.

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Richard September 26, 2012 at 5:54 am

What is this? Bad comments about my country? We’ll see about that…

UV Radiation? Fact is spending so much time under the sun makes our skins more defensive of it’s rays, so I can see why Australians like me think it’s fine, but tourists may find it bad.

Pests are everywhere. You can’t generalize Australia for being worse. Well you can, but you shouldn’t. I personally have never had an issue with pests. Do people not realize 95% of our population live in civilized cities and towns?

I’m not even sure how to respond to his opinions of Australian people. It makes little to no sense, so let’s just ignore it.

Indeed. The government pays for babies so that the mothers can stay home and raise their children as civilized and respectable human beings. The proof that it works; check out our %crime rates and our %employment rate. And those extra employed people pay taxes to make sure their children and their children’s children can continue receiving this benefit and grow civilized. Also, personally, cost of life isn’t even that bad. To me, it seems easier here than in America. A LOT easier.

Not enough gas stations? I think Fred enjoys the occasional recreational drug. This comment is the epitome of stupidity. Besides, who takes a daily vacation to Peru or what-have you.

Our health care is subsidized, if not completely covered by the government so that we can be a healthy nation. This is, of course, with the exception of private medical services. If you demand private consultation, then the public subsidization does not apply for you. The government pays for this with tax money. Y’know, spending taxes on medicine, not nukes. I don’t see how this system is weird in any way. Also, dental is expensive regardless of where you go. The reason it is considered more expensive here is because it is not covered under public subsidization. This is because dental is not life threatening; it is usually for aesthetic fixtures involving your teeth. Of course, dental surgery for the sake of saving you life IS free. The way it works is simple; Australia says, “If you are sick, or injured, or about to die, we are happy to help for free, as long as you do not demand special privileges.” Simple as that; not weird.

Bad roads? More recreational drugs, apparently. That, or when he visited, he toured the desert and outback.

Of course universities are public. In Australia, we value equality. (Yes, mistakes were made involving the Aboriginals, but if you knew anything about Australia, you would understand that the Stolen Generation and all its issues have been dealt with, apologized for and is now being made back in favor of Aboriginals.) We don’t want to discriminate against working-class folk and stop them from acquiring a respectable education. That is also why it is “free”, which, by the way, is false. It is not free, it is just loaned until the student is in a job and earning enough to pay it back. This system allows the non-rich people of Australia to be able to also acquire a respectable education and ensure the nation remains educated and advanced.

Bad houses? Please see comment about roads.

Australian crime? All you have to do is check out Google for some crime statistics and it is CLEAR that Australia is superior to America in regards to crime. Due to our advanced education and dedicated upbringing from our parents, our country is actually filled with a large amount of law abiding, respectable human beings who would not only ensure they commit no crimes, but ensure that others do not and thwart any criminal attempts.

There you go. Those are my two cents. Actually, Australia is a smart enough country to realize the cost to make a one cent coin is more than the coin is worth itself; thus the one cent coin was abolished years and years ago, unlike in America. So those were my ten cents. Hope you got an aneurysm reading them.

PS: It was quite entertaining reading this stunningly false facts, but some of them just made me a little angry, so I had no choice to write this. :] Keep up the great blog, Bob.

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BobinOz September 26, 2012 at 11:40 pm

Nice counter arguments Richard and all very valid. You seem to be a bit flummoxed though by the very serious problem raised by Fred in his bonus reason about “Sandstorms come from the desert as well.”

Is there anything we Australians can do about this?

Got to go, pests are attacking again! “Ouch! Aargh! Get off of my leee lee leee leeeggg!!”

Bloomin’ crocodiles get everywhere!

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Richard September 26, 2012 at 11:59 pm

Mate, those crocodiles. Found one in my shoe the other day.

But those sandstorms. I can’t say I know a way to stop them. Fred’s right. Everyday of the year is like a yellowy brown Christmas. Oh wait, it doesn’t snow here. Anyway, I’m surprised the kangaroos can see where they’re hopping.

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tanya September 28, 2012 at 12:22 am

i am an aussie born and raised in australia i moved to america 8 years ago some things what fred said was true yes our ozone layer is bad yes the uv is bad and more skin cancer problems there than anywhere in the world but that can be fixed by slip slop slap put on sunscreen slap on a hat and keep a shirt on no worries. yes spiders r bad so is the rabbits and foxes and carp well we really wouldnt have had that problems if those immigrants didnt bring those buggers over her. now about the babies i do agree so some degree babies having babies is disgusting

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tanya September 28, 2012 at 12:39 am

oh and about the crime rate well i can tell u that australias crime rate is alot better than america its really discusting how much murders r happening every day in america and gang violence here is out of hand the murders in america that happens in just 1 day is pretty much a whole year in australia and i know that i feel better and know its much safer for my children to grow up there than america and the schools i dont think there is a problem with the school in australia let me make a point on this 1 the schools in america have metal detectors so the kids cant bring knives and guns to school and there is a cop that stays there at the schools so the children and teachers can feel safe if u ask me thats pretty bad. health care and dental care it really doesnt matter where u live dental care is going to be expensive and medicare pretty much covers that bill and in america if u dont pay out of your butt for insuance

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tanya September 28, 2012 at 12:51 am

cant even see a doc without paying alot of money and to get medications costs alot oh and the roads i have never seen a problem yes way in the outback there is dirt roads but hardly any traffic drives on them in the major cities in america the roads are not taken care of. and atleast australian people keep the cities and towns clean of trash not like here in america. and for those who think why im living in a place i dont like well my answer is im not planning to stay i am planning to move back to australia to raise my children in a much safer place.

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BobinOz September 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm

Well, Fred started it :-) The phrase “glass houses and stones” comes to mind.

Sounds like you’re pining for Australia Tanya, I hope you can come home soon.

Bob

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Dean December 8, 2012 at 8:12 am

Well i didnt get a chance to see good ol freds site but having read thru every comment it makes me proud to be australian. Josh kinda upset me but eh hes a flaming gallah that guy.

Keep up the good work bob

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BobinOz December 8, 2012 at 9:15 pm

Well, there’s always one or two gallahs (for my non-Aussie readers, gallah = idiot), but in an unintentional kind of way they offer enormous entertainment for the rest of us.

Cheers Dean!

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Aussie Chick January 24, 2013 at 10:01 pm

WOW this is hilarious. And utter BS! Very amusing. And spoken from true ignorance. Well done!

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BobinOz January 25, 2013 at 5:06 pm

Glad it made you laugh, it certainly gave me plenty of chuckles.

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australiaspiderville February 1, 2013 at 5:21 pm

australia is crawling with insane bugs. the spiders and enormous beetles are enough to make me never want to go there. also heard through people living there that the natives there are just terrible, loud and vicious people.

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BobinOz February 3, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Maybe you should visit before expressing an opinion?

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Drek Thar February 14, 2013 at 9:37 pm

Hmm a few things I wanted to point out that most people already have but what the hell lol… he’s right that it’s bloody expensive to live here, the housing and rental market is insane, if you’re a low income earner or on welfare you’re going to have serious accommodation worries, power & gas & groceries are all also a lot pricer than other countries.. but if you’ve got the cash you should be fine.

As for the bugs.. If you live in a suburban or city area the bugs and insects are really not a problem, they are around but for the most part they won’t bother if you don’t bother them and an exterminator is just a phone call away to keep them out of your house. They’re really not that big a deal.

Bushfires tend to be in bushy/country areas more than city & suburban areas, I’ve lived in oz my whole life and the closest I’ve come to a bushfire is smoke that’s been blown into the city from far away fires.

I don’t think the crime rate is any higher here than anywhere else, infact it may be lower I don’t know, there is a high level of alcohol abuse and amphetamine useage in OZ so sometimes a night out can end with you running into some violent people but if you know which areas to avoid on fri and sat nights you should fine. One thing I will say is I think we aren’t tough enough on criminals as we should be, far too many people get let out or get slaps on the wrist.

The healthcare system here is pretty good, yes there are some long waiting lists, but our public hospitals are free as far as I’m aware and if you’re on low income/can’t afford medications you can get them cheap, where as in places like the U.S you’ll have to pay a load for both healthcare and medication.

Bad roads? Maybe out in the country but in the cities the roads are fine, maybe a little small for a growing population but the condition of them seems to be fine.

Etcetc…

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BobinOz February 15, 2013 at 5:14 pm

Yes, pretty good sum up Drek, thanks!

Bob

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Grace March 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm

Hi I just happened to come across this blog… and my first impression while reading this blog was that I thought it seemed too biased. I actually live in Canada and I previously used to live in NZ and I think those ppl who closed down Fred’s site should have respected his freedom of speech instead of suppressing his ideas by doing that (unless he had very offensive comments to say, resulting in a hate crime, then I would understand why they would have had to close down his site). Of course, I would speculate his views were also quite extreme b/c obviously every country requires a set of laws to protect their citizens, and I would pretty much guess Australia has them too. But one point did catch my attention, I don’t know if you guys know, but UV radiation has started to become a major concern in certain parts of Australia due to ozone depletion and the formation of the Antarctic Ozone hole over areas down south, and it is sad that some countries in europe and other parts of the world still haven’t banned CFCs. I myself haven’t lived in Australia so I do not know about what the conditions are like, but someone commented about how getting “skin cancer is just as likely as getting any other kind of cancer,” however according to scientific papers it has been confirmed that UV light is a mutagenic agent that causes induced mutations to occur in DNA, which may lead to cancer. This doesn’t mean that I am criticizing Australia for that, I’m just saying that for any place where there is more UV radiation or direct sunlight there may be a potential for higher skin cancer rates. But really if you look there is no place in this world that is completely perfect, wherever you live, there are potential dangers to your life such as from natural disasters like earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis, floods, volcanoes, forest fires and a whole lot more other things, you simply can’t live in fear of everything!

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BobinOz March 4, 2013 at 9:53 pm

You are right Grace, there is no absolutely safe place in the world, each country comes with its own set of risks. I am happy to live in Australia with its associated risks, there are certainly far far more dangerous countries to live in.

As for Fred site being taken down, you haven’t had the benefit of reading everything he said and I’m afraid he took the freedom of speech bit a little too far. Some of his claims were quite offensive to all Australians. I’m not too surprised it was taken down.

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Kade971 March 14, 2013 at 1:01 pm

WTF
is this guy a sook

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Sab March 17, 2013 at 1:54 pm

Hi. Im an Aussie who returned after 20 years away. To be absolutely honest, upon getting back I felt so disappointed. I hate it here but not for any trite or untrue reasons such as Fred wrote about. At first I thought, just stick with it. Change can be difficult at first. But, 6 years later, I am leaving again. Now, I like good, warm weather, sandy beaches & beautiful scenery. Beyond doubt, Aus has all that. What I find objectionable is the racism, the sexism, the ageism, the sheer amount of bogans, drugies, drunks, and the awful amount of poverty & homelessness I’ve seen since coming home. The Aus attitude to someone down on their luck has become apathetic to outright cruel. This is not the country I left. Now people can sue each other, there’s en masse privatisation of essential services such as health care & public transport for example. Here, in Sydney, housing is so expensive that people crowd 4 in each bedroom & another 2 in the lounge. Studio apartments are being advertised as cheap if they fall below $450 per/week. Little wonder there is overcrowding! Personally, I do not consider shared bedrooms as 1st world living. What on earth happened? Aus was spacious, young, optimistic, outdoorsy, a DIY culture… People used to be concerned, not just for there own standard of living, but for the whole community. I ask again, what happened to Au?

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BobinOz March 18, 2013 at 8:50 pm

Well, I don’t suppose there’s any country in the world that hasn’t changed significantly over the last 20 years, so I’m not surprised you have seen a different Australia.

What I am surprised about though is what you thought of it. I can tell you what you have witnessed is an alien world to the one I’m used to up here in Brisbane. Maybe you should have come to Queensland, we still enjoy plenty of outdoorsy stuff, we have loads of green fields around us and the people are kind, friendly and help each other.

Not sure exactly where you were, but it’s not an Australia that I recognise.

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Loz May 10, 2013 at 10:06 am

Sab, I’d have to agree with you…but only for the fact you live in Sydney. Whilst I haven’t lived there for quite some time, I find when I visit it does tend to have that big city attitude about it, with the locals being unfriendly and the like, not so different from the feeling I got when living in London.
Agree with Bob…maybe you should try Qld!

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Ian March 30, 2014 at 1:56 am

I have to intervene here because of some REEDICKULARSE crap! Yeahh ok Im a couple of years late but I see comments are still open. Josh you are NOT correct regarding your comments on indigenous peoples in Australia. It is too complex to answer Josh, but I would be happy to if you have the time! As to white Australia, one person in 4 is born somewhere else, 2 kids out of 4 have one parent born some whre else, more Chinese than British now immigrate. Good God Josh, you are so wide of the mark! I know a Chinese guy here who used to live in Canada, he loves it here and wont go back, says the people are great and loves the laid back way. ANy one who says there is racism here has obviously NOT read how many people come from so many different places – racism is IMPOSSIBLE with that mix!

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BobinOz March 31, 2014 at 2:33 pm

Oh, please, don’t wake Josh up again, it’s best if we leave him be :-)

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Brazz June 6, 2013 at 7:54 am

This is my perspective as a seasonal weather lover and keen snowboarder growing up in Perth.

1. It’s too old, flat, eroded and leached.
2. Hydrology is unacceptable (not enough decent freshwater lakes and rivers).
3. The latitude is too low (solar incidence too higher) for someone of north european descent.
5. Winter is severely lacking it’s edge.
5. It’s too far away from the rest of the western world.
6. Skiing/snowboarding is non-existant in WA and is touchy at best over east
7. The closest reliable snowboarding is in Japan costing a kidney each time
8. Major cities are largely too sleepy, with the exception of Melbourne and Sydney.
9. Lack of affordable medium and high density housing.

Everything else is great. Unfortunately the above reasons are fatal. Yeah I have strict geographical requirements and im not like most people on the weather (not looking for comfort). I’ll be on my way to Canada then.

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BobinOz June 6, 2013 at 1:55 pm

No 10? :-)

You do sound more like a Canada kind of person. Australia isn’t for everybody, but it’s certainly no place for snowboarders!

Cheers

Bob

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Chris June 23, 2013 at 9:16 am

I loved your blog. Everyone, as you say is entitled to their opinion. I am Australian born and will stay here for life. I love it here. Yes, I have travelled, seen poverty and other ways of life. I feel blessed.

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BobinOz June 24, 2013 at 12:11 am

I feel blessed too Chris, now that I’m here. I’m not Australian born, but I will stay here for life now that I’ve got here. Cheers mate!

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Cathy Paul June 24, 2013 at 5:43 am

Hi Bob
I just wanted to say I’ve been following your blog since April and have found it fascinating and totally invaluable for information, from education, kids and the best places to live in Australia.

My husband and I live in the UK with our 2 daughters aged 4 and 6 and we’re trying to get to Australia with a sponsorship (my husband is a panel beater). Originally we were going to head for Perth seeing’s how it seems to be on the up with economy and jobs etc, but after reading lots of different comments on your site I’ve changed my mind and quite fancy Brisbane or Adelaide – having never been to Oz it’s been great listening to everybody’s different perspectives, and all duly noted!

I’ve always enjoyed living in the UK, I love the history and the countryside and the monarchy etc, but I must admit in the last 10 years, in my eyes, it has really gone down hill, rapidly (I probably notice more since being a parent I guess), but I hate the overcrowding, the letting people in regardless of what they have to offer the country, the lack of opportunities for our youngsters with regards to jobs etc, crime is getting worse and so is the drugs scene, but most of all I’m hating our bloody cold, damp weather! It’s just getting worse and worse every year.

It’s been a tough decision to make, with leaving family etc, I don’t live in a bad part of the UK we’re on the SW coast, but once we made our minds up to move reading your blog has been really helpful in confirming we’re making the right decision. I know this has nothing to do with the ‘subject’ in hand, i just wanted to let you know I’m enjoying reading bob in oz!

Cheers Cathy

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BobinOz June 24, 2013 at 9:39 pm

Hi Cathy

Thanks for popping by and letting me know that you’re enjoying my website, it’s much appreciated.

Yes, it is a big decision to leave the UK, but if you do come here to Australia I’m sure you will not regret it, I am equally sure your young children will have a much better life and future here. My daughter was just 3 1/2 and we came here, she is now nine and absolutely loves her lifestyle here, always being outside, lots of friends and most of all jumping in the pool.

I hope you and your family make it here some time, and I really hope you get to love this place is much as we do.

Cheers

Bob

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Shelly July 5, 2013 at 9:41 am

Australia is the worst place to live in the world. DON’T GO TO AUSTRALIA.

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George July 26, 2013 at 7:15 pm

I live in Australia. A lot of this information is actually false.

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BobinOz July 29, 2013 at 2:05 pm

Yes George, we know. This post is about the opinion of a man called Fred, nobody is suggesting it is factual.

Bob

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Steve August 12, 2013 at 10:43 am

I lived in Oz for a year. I went there thinking I was going to want live there but returned back to England. I loved the beaches in Oz, the laid back lifestyle & Sydney was a pretty cool city but I decided against the move in the end. One reason, family & I’ve got a lot of good friends in England & I was surprised by how much I missed them while I was out therel. Originally I lived in Essex which was nice but not for me, I ended up moving to Cornwall, it actually reminds me of Oz to be honest. They seem to have that laid back life style here very similar to Oz. There’s beautiful beaches & scenery here, with lot’s to do. The one thing we haven’t got though is the Ozy weather but I can live with that. I also love London, I wouldn’t want to live there but I love visiting the City when I can find good deals on hotels. I understand why people from Oz love it there though, I have got a few friends out there who love it. I visit it when I can, it’s just ashame the flights are so expensive because I would go out there more often.

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BobinOz August 12, 2013 at 11:58 pm

Missing family and friends is probably the biggest reason why people return to England, so you are not alone on that. Cornwall is quite nice, if I really had to live in England, I suspect that’s where I would go. But for me, I love it here in Australia.

Everyone is different, which is lucky really, otherwise we’d all want the same things.

Cheers Steve!

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Elli August 19, 2013 at 4:17 pm

Hi guys I want to see if this gets posted

Pls post this ❤

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Four Exess September 3, 2013 at 6:00 am

Actually there is a complete missunderstanding, Australia has 40% of the WORLD’s uranium, google it please and check out the USA nuclear tests in the middle of Australian territory, after living with those selective overcapitalist cheapsholes I believe there is far beyond the greatest deception I ever got in my life, just dont let that piece of red un hearted land steal the last cent you have, Enjoy yourself by the way how can you explain that the rent 5 years ago was (example mine) $100 a week and now is more than 700 a studio for a week, is atm daddy mining getting wasted? so please stop promoting lies.
by the way, enjoy your last months of real state bubble =)

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BobinOz September 3, 2013 at 8:41 pm

The only two words in your comment that seem to make sense to me are “complete misunderstanding” because there’s certainly been that. I have no idea what you are on about.

Thanks though, Bob

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Barberode September 13, 2013 at 7:11 pm

I live in Melbourne since 2005 and have to say that the city is very expensive, 4 years ago I bought a brand new 3 bedrooms house and the quality was shocking, there is no proper insulation, no proper/sufficient heating, you are able to hear every single noise from outside and from other bedrooms, the houses are built so close next to each other that you can hear easily people living next door and for this comfort you can expect minimum of $ 500.000 purchase price, but this is the new trend in costruction here, I call this domestic houses here overpriced paperboxes, public transportation is far behind from every country in Europe and vocational school system is really a joke, I know this field, because I work in it.
After 7 years of living in best city in the world, I can tell you that I will be happy to leave back to my native Bavaria/Germany, where not everything is the best, but at least my kids get high quality education for free of charge, I will have proper place to live with hydronic heating and thick walls as a standard, not overpriced luxury, the quality products from cars to electronic, cloths are not overpriced like here and the working environment is more efficient, I start to miss the Alps and lakes, good food and the quality for affordable price. So the Fred was right in 60% of his article. By the way in Melbourne you need to heat your house at least 5 months in the year, so what is the difference in the weather between Munich and Melbourne???

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BobinOz September 16, 2013 at 2:00 pm

You may well prefer Germany to Melbourne, but that does not make Fred 60% right. For example, you say Melbourne is expensive, but it isn’t because “the government pays for babies” is it?

By the way, the house that you bought it may have been useless and too close to the neighbours, but here in Brisbane I love my house, which is modestly priced, and has tons of room around it. I reckon you just chose the wrong place.

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Jared October 21, 2013 at 3:48 pm

I live in Hawaii now. I am a member of the US military and going to school. I feel my reasons for wanting to move to Australia are a bit narrow-minded, However they are backed on realities that I fully understand from having been raised on Oahu all my life – The most densely populated of the island chain. and still a land mass surrounded by water for miles on end.

Expensive Cost of living? Hah. no stranger to that!. However, unlike what it sounds like is the case in Aus, Hawaii does NOT adjust this fact to what we earn. Minimum wage is still US $7.25/hr. which is the same minimum wage in almost all other states of the US even though the cost of living is up to 1/3 of here.

Gas is US $4.80 per gallon. and i love cars. (sadly the truth comes out): My main reason for wanting to live in Aus. The american sportscar/car enthusiast market is a diluted pile of poo in comparison to what Europe/Japan/Aus has to offer it’s customers UNLESS we want: A Camaro, a Corvette, or a Mustang… Which is why the Skylines (and practically Every low volume turbocharged fun-powered cars) were banned from ever reaching American markets. because the small 2.6 twin turbo threatened the sales of their big 10,000,000 litre V8s that get 2mpg with only 400hp.

So every car that was ever sold in the US had an inferior engine to its original spec, or just wasn’t sold at all here. No S15s. No skylines at all. No Utes. No turbochargers on anything. one example, our S13 and S14s come with 2.4 litre Iron block 4 cylinders out of a nissan pickup truck. generating 155hp and 160tq. with a 6,500 rpm redline.

whoops… going off topic.

Critters? We got those too. Hawaiian centipedes, scorpions, and apart from snakes (which we are slowly getting from dumb smugglers), a bite is a bite. if its poisonous you die. how many people have died? its a part of being alive on earth.

Skin cancer? That applies anytime you live on earth and the sun touches your skin.

The thing is, being in the military i also traveled throughout mainland USA too.. And im not too big a fan of the people and purely miles of woods and desert or concrete cities with no love that USA prides itself on.

HAWAII VS AUSTRALIA.
I liked the people of Hawaii. but its just TOO small!. i lived here for 23 years and i’m bored! the beaches i love still. but there’s not enough land and ontop of having no good car culture, and New york city-like traffic that makes a 10 mile trip take an hour, its boring trying to drive around it 5000 times pretending my paradise exists! Australia is almost a humorous god-sent piece of geography in this sense to me.

Let me explain. ^ It’s like if one of those TV commercials you come across was actually talking to you:

(TV announcer voice) “Are you tired of being stuck in traffic on a tiny island in the middle of nowhere with nothing to explore and high cost of living and an absolute lack of fun fast cars, but not willing to give up the island lifestyle of being close to the beaches and having year-round relatively warm weather? …. WELL LOOK NO FURTHER! Australia is an 8 hour flight south west of you and covers ALL your bases!”

haha. ^ thats just what it feels like. And as long as the people are decent ENOUGH (Im very realistic in this regard, as hawaii isn’t all sunshine and daisies either), there will be nothing holding me back from loving it!

The only thing keeping me from being able to move to AUS are my oblications to the military.. but as far as wanting to get out of this craptastic state in the US, im a dog on a leash and i’m pulling hard!

I just need to know how i’m going to do this… I still don’t know what i want to be “when i grow up”. as i don’t have a degree. considering to finish college here in Hawaii in a degree that looks valuable in Aus. and try to find a job that way. how does that sound?

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Jared October 21, 2013 at 4:03 pm

oh ya… and You guys say its expensive to live in Australia. I just want to put that in prospective to where i live now.

My half-decent neighborhood on the east side (contryside of Oahu. opposite to Honolulu/waikiki and all the heavy city activities/jobs) which takes about a half hour to drive about 20 miles in good traffic to work is a small 3 bedroom 2 bath sub-division with a 2 car parking “hole”. can’t really call it a garage.

Monthly rent without utilities: $2200/mo. to buy the place? $150,000.
I live with 2 other people because of how expensive it is. we split the bill and if any one of us F’s around we will definitely be evicted.

My mother’s average 4 Bedroom, 3 bathroom, 2 living room, 2 car garage town house with a small yard is now worth about $950,000. 15 years ago she bought it for $550,000

remember, minimum wage is still $7.25 and the state average income of all the population is UNDER $45,000 per year. my mother is lucky enough to make $90,000 a year. and most people do like me and live cramped into a single living quarters and split the bill.

Alternatively, you can spend $800-1000 (No utilities) per month on a low-income housing with zero parking in the slums of waikiki/China town/Waianae and risk getting stabbed, shot, or infected with HIV.

So what am i up against when looking to Aus. for a brighter future??

I’d like a place within 5-10 miles of a beach and large city. But I’m not like these picky home-hunters on TV. as long as its a 2 bedroom, 2 bath, with an enclosed 2 car garage in a safe neighborhood, i don’t care how it looks! as long as its not falling apart.

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Deanoz October 21, 2013 at 6:51 pm

Well quite the essay you have written there. Well I can only give u a melbourne perspective on things. I’m currently living about 13 Kms from the city and the nearest beach. With the abundance of freeways takes about 15 minutes to get to the beach for me and the further u travel the nicer the beach. It costs me $250 a week to rent a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom townhouse single garage. And utilities range from about $400 to $800 for 3 months.

In the army don’t they teach u a trade? Or is that only here. I know with incoming people that wish to settle here they require you to have some sort of beneficial work related skill. Studying here is also very expensive upwards of $6000 a year.

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BobinOz October 22, 2013 at 1:32 pm

For some reason living in Hawaii suggests the notion of living in paradise and most people regard those who do live there as being rather lucky.

Thanks for putting us all straight on that one :-) it actually sounds awful. I think you will love Australia Jared, hope you find a way to get here soon.

I bet Deanoz’ (hi Deanoz) probably sounds like HE is living in paradise to you, even from where I am up here in the even sunnier and hotter Brisbane :-) it sounds pretty good too.

Cheers, Bob

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Jared October 23, 2013 at 6:14 pm

They do teach you skills of course. Personally I’m a 3 year hydraulics mechanic in an aviation shop. What the US military doesn’t tell you (even when they advertise it on tv) is that any skill you aquire in service can’t transfer towards a civilian job directly. Even though I CAN work on any bird I touch, in order to get a job working on civilian helicopters, I still need an a&p license and pay the $30, 000 to go through the schooling and get the certificate. The only thing the military did in this case is make it easy to pass such a class. They don’t care about military veterans in their skill specialty, they just want to see the civilian diploma.

Also, bob. I know your English. But I was recently discussing my interest to move with a couple of friends and they all told me Australians generally don’t like americans, so Id be treated badly? What’s funny is I’m half japanese half half English ethnicly, so on the rare case I get picked at here in the US is because of my asian side (which never happens in hawaii, but more so on the US continent). I don’t want to believe its going to be too much of a problem, but is there anything in need to be wary about in regards to my american accent or my asian (ish) appearance?

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BobinOz October 24, 2013 at 12:54 am

It’s difficult for me to answer your question from the American side of things based on personal experience, I think I’ve only met a few people from the USA, maybe three or four at most since living here. But I certainly haven’t heard of anyone complaining about being treated badly. Remember, this country is full of immigrants from all over the world, I’m one of them myself.

That brings me to your Asian side, I have met loads of them, there’s no shortage of Asians here. They are not treated badly either. So I don’t think you have anything to be wary about, unless you are generally an unlikeable person, nobody likes those :-) and I’ll explain what I mean by that.

I vaguely remember a few years ago a US General from the army was stationed here in Darwin, he started complaining loudly about our women not being dressed correctly, something like that.

He was hated immediately and that’s how not to get on with people in Australia. Put simply, Australians like likeable people, they don’t like people who aren’t likeable, and they really don’t like people who come here and have a pop at Australians.

Simple really.

Cheers Jared, take care, Bob

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Barberode October 27, 2013 at 1:50 pm

That is true, Australians like people who promote Australia and its way of living, who do not mention the reality to them, once you tell them the negative things about Australia, they will not talk to you anymore. Australia is perhaps lucky country, but not a clever country.

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BobinOz October 27, 2013 at 8:01 pm

Barberode, you have totally misinterpreted my comment whilst at the same time pigeonholing all Australians. Australia is actually made up of individual people who think in different ways.

And what’s this “do not mention the reality to them”? The reality of my story was that somebody arrived here from another country and decided, based on his own conservative views, that he didn’t like the clothing some of our women wore during very hot days.

Nobody has the right to do that, after all these women were not breaking the law. Have you heard of the saying “when in Rome do as the Romans”?

You think Australia “is not a clever country”, but it is a free country and people who come here from other countries and try to impose their values on our way of life are simply not welcome.

Anyway, please let me know which country you come from Barbs and I will construct a similarly meaningless short sentence describing all of the people who live there.

Cheers, Bob

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Barberode October 28, 2013 at 5:18 pm

Hi Bob,

I do not mean all Australians are like that, but 65% are like that as I described, just those who actually traveled or lived in another country for sometime are pretty OK and have good overview about the rest of the world and coming back to Australia making them flustrated, I know many young Australians, who came back home after several years in Europe and they can’t cope with this mentality here anymore. As I do work in education sector, I met many teenagers who do not have respect in front of their teachers, parents and other people, yes this is free country. I come from one of the most democratic country in Europe, also free country built on principles of parlamentary democracy, but what I observed here I have not seen before. To be honest I would not send my kids in the school in Australia, they learn not so much as in Europe, they spent 60% time at school in outdoor playing games. Why many engineers, actors, singers, scientists, leaving Australia? Do not get me wrong, I think Australia is beautiful country and very attractive for people from poorer countries to settle down here, people from high tech, democratic western countries come here down under to stay for couple of years and mostly they return back after the local experience, me too I am here because of opportunity, not because of the culture, weather or people, once the opportunity gone, I am back home in Europe.

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BobinOz October 28, 2013 at 11:34 pm

Are you for real Barb?

Look, everybody is entitled to their own opinions, you’ve already said earlier in this thread that you think Melbourne is expensive, the housing here is shocking, public transport useless, education system a joke blah blah blah.

That’s fine, you don’t like Australia, you are welcome to that view. Isn’t it such a shame your own country that you love so much cannot give you the same opportunity that this country does? If it could, you wouldn’t have to put up with all this stuff.

Here’s what you don’t have the right to say though; “Australians like people who promote Australia” – “once you tell them the negative things about Australia, they will not talk to you anymore” – “65% are like that” – “they spent 60% time at school in outdoor playing games” – “people from high tech, democratic western countries come here down under to stay for couple of years and mostly they return back after the local experience”. You don’t have the right to say these things because none of these things are facts, they are only ideas in your head.

Do you have any idea how funny it is that you’ve come up with actual percentages? Have you done time and study motion covering every school in Australia before concluding that they spend 60% of their time playing games? Did you tell thousands and thousands of Australians negative things about Australia just find out how many would continue talking to you and how many would stop talking to you before coming up with the 65% figure?

Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics doesn’t have statistics on what people here “think”. Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics doesn’t have statistics on why Australians might not talk to you anymore. Even the Australian Bureau of Statistics doesn’t know why people leave this country.

So, please, don’t try telling us that you know these things, you don’t. You’re guessing.

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Barberode November 1, 2013 at 7:12 pm

Hi Bob, yes maybe you’ re right, I am guessing, but I speak to people through my job, I have an opportunity to see the real life in Australia, not this what Australian Bureau of Statistics or Australian Government officially telling to people, I do not believe in such a statistics, they are based mostly on misleading/ not fully correct information. The statistic says that average salary in Melbourne is 68.000$, but the truth is that you are happy if you earn around 45-50.000$ a year, the statistic claims the unemployment rate in Australia is 5.6%, the fact is that according to EU Australia has almost 17% unemployment rate if you use the same way to count unemployment as countries of EU do, in Australia everyone who has job even for one day a week, is out of statistic, but you can’t survive with this money. How come that people who have a many assets, because they worked so hard and they paid taxes accordingly will not qualify for their pension? Is it also a part of the freedom in Australia and fairness? Why the home owners need to pay such a ridiculous fees to councils and even some fees as a contribution for parks, which they do not use? Australia punishes people who are owning something. Also such an incredible high traffic or parking fines I have never seen in Europe before. Australia is a country more or less of idividualists, everything is here so superficial, no tradition, so changeable very similiar to USA rather than to Europe. I can go on, but I will not because as you mentioned people who come here from other countries and try to impose their values and show different way of life are simply not welcome. I do not expect that Australia will have big progress in the future, it is still a colony, at least how it behaves, So God bless Australia and its people!

BobinOz November 5, 2013 at 1:44 pm

Barberode, you are just too funny. You are now explaining to me why your guesswork from speaking to people through your job is more accurate than the ABS?

Again you have gone on a rant about things you hate about Australia, yet Australia by your own admission offers you opportunities you cannot get from your home country. Talk about bite the hand that feeds you.

Here’s a little tip for you on those traffic and parking fines, consider driving and parking legally.

Cheers, Bob

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ryan latsger November 8, 2013 at 8:43 am

i live in australia and trust me none of that is true

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BobinOz November 8, 2013 at 9:09 pm

Yes, I live here too, and I agree Ryan.

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sasha December 1, 2013 at 7:23 pm

Totally agree and everyone in Australia is amazing

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Barberode December 2, 2013 at 5:00 pm

You are living in dreams, wake up and see the things in real! Every country in the world has amazing people and bad people, so Australia, talk to immigrants and you will see what they think, talk to tourists and ask them what they think, you will be suprised!!! Australian tourism is weak, because of quality of services provided and the price, even Australians are travelling rather to abroad to spend their money than to stay in country, why? Simple answer, too expensive!!!!

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BobinOz December 2, 2013 at 11:37 pm

Barberode, I have removed the bad language from your post and would appreciate you not using it again if you decide to comment further. I can’t stop you from talking rubbish, that’s your choice, but I will block you if you continue to use offensive words.

By the way, the latest statistics prove once again that what you think in your head is not the reality, see my post about immigration figures.

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sasha December 1, 2013 at 7:21 pm

ok hold on these things r rubbish first of all the people here are amazing second about the sun yeah its hot only in summer its like 30 but just put on sunblock yes it is expensive only people normal people who are not million airs its normal price ok so first of all get your butt to Australia and see it for real and at leased we dont go killing people with guns like in the US

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BobinOz December 1, 2013 at 9:06 pm

Well said Sasha :-)

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Amber December 12, 2013 at 9:43 am

you know what, your stupid, Australia is probably the best country. Beautiful beaches, beautiful people, and the roads are perfectly fine, no roundabouts on highways and the schools and educations and most private and are definitely not *free* you probably have never been here considering your idiotic comments towards our amazing country, this is complete rubbish. AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI

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Barberode December 15, 2013 at 3:59 pm

In Australia, education is the most expensive in the world, check this http://www.ibtimes.com/international-students-higher-education-really-inexpensive-germany-not-us-charts-1383641
Beaches, well I saw most beatiful beaches in Greece, Spain and France and highways I saw much better one in Germany, Switzerland and Italy so more or less just nature beauty, but this has been not created by people living in Australia, but by nature itself. People are amazing everywhere in the world, this is not speciality just in Australia.

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Culero December 19, 2013 at 9:00 am

no such thing as Australian, European etc, we are all god having a human experience, we have forgotten who we really are, the division is but an illusion, we live in a big universe :)

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Culero December 19, 2013 at 9:05 am

just kidding lol, aussie is a cool place to live ;) but am waiting to go into space, am one of the peeps going to mars, yeayyyyyy!!!!!!

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BobinOz December 19, 2013 at 1:47 pm

Sounds like you are already on Mars Culero :-)

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Ollie December 19, 2013 at 1:16 pm

Great blog! I recently emigrated to Perth from the UK and I’m loving it. It seems quite fashionable at the moment to hate on Perth but what I’ve seen it has the same cons as pretty much any other major city in the world with more pros than a lot of them.

It’s so much easier to have a outdoors lifestyle and still have access to the city.

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BobinOz December 20, 2013 at 12:51 pm

Welcome to Oz Ollie, great to hear you are having fun in Perth. Not bad here, is it?

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Henry December 27, 2013 at 10:16 pm

Having lived for the past three years in Melbourne and then moved to Munich I have to agree with Barberode… all so very very true. I moved to Oz from Cape Town and was bitterly disappointed – although I had been travelling to Oz regularly on business for five years prior to the move (to all the major Oz cities) – nothing prepared me for the different attitude and way of life I encountered. I found that I was resented for having work experience outside of Oz – I did find the medical system excellent and that is something here we have had to adjust to as we are not entitled to any of the German health system as we work as consultants and pay horrendously high private rates with BUPA- Having been out of the UK for so long we are no longer entitled to any of the agreements between Nat Health and EEC countries. That aside though I wouldn’t go back to Melbourne… Yes the culture was good in Melbourne but its much better here in Europe. The weather was dreadful in Melbourne and we found the people unbelievably insular. Its a great country but I prefer being in the centre of Europe with its global perspective… People are much more friendly here too and far more adaptable, educated and open to change. I confess I still get goose bumps when I hear ‘I still call Australia home’ since I fought long and hard to obtain my residency there and I never expected to leave – its interesting to read that there are several others who like me find Munich a great place to be and prefer it here to Oz… Okay so we don’t have roos here but I left the lions behind in Africa prior to going to Oz so here I guess I shall just get used to the bears instead!

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BobinOz December 28, 2013 at 1:35 am

Hello Henry

So, you agree with Barberode? I was just wondering, do you actually agree with everything that Barberode says? Because, let’s face it, Barberode does have some rather unusual views, it would be really difficult to agree with everything Barberode says, unless of course, you are Barberode.

Hold on a minute, I’ve just noticed something. Your IP address, that’s the location of your server just happens to be exactly the same as Barberodes!

You are Barberode!

Well, how about that? It’s also interesting that the geological location of this IP address is Melbourne, not Munich.

So Barberode, you have stooped so low now as to agree with yourself under a different name. Pathetic and sad, but funny too :-)

How can you really not know that every time you send an email or a comment to a website, your IP address is easy to see. Please don’t waste any more of my time.

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WA December 29, 2013 at 1:51 pm

Good One Bob, Keep catching him, it is getting interesting now :)

WA.

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BobinOz December 30, 2013 at 5:19 pm

Thanks WA, it was easy. Who else would possibly agree with Barberode? :-)

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Kamma December 29, 2013 at 8:00 am


Are you sure he wasn’t doing satire or being ironic or whatever it’s called? I mean… It looks silly enough to be.

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BobinOz December 30, 2013 at 5:23 pm

I admire your trying to see the best in people Kamma, but I see no satire here, just an attempt to mislead my genuine readers who are looking for honest opinions about life in Australia.

Cheers, Bob

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Stew December 31, 2013 at 4:04 pm

You must be a POM

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Ollie December 31, 2013 at 4:10 pm

Say what?

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Barberode December 31, 2013 at 10:22 pm

Hi Bob, just explaining the confusion which occured with the IP address, Henry is old friend of mine who is living in my native city of Munich now, but he came for 3 weeks to Melbourne visiting his friends and escape from winter cold, so we had a discussion about this topic and I did show him your website and while he was visiting me he used my computer to express his freely opinion, so I did not write this comment as you mention above. I will not waste your time anymore, because I am not able to convince people that Australia is not such a perfect country as the propaganda says, the grass is not greener here as in other western countries, but to all people, please think twice before you make a final decission to move to Australia. Australia was a lucky country back in 70s, 80s maybe in 90s, but now get worse every single year, depends what you expect, you need to have right occupation,which is on demand, good connections, good money reserve at least for two years for living costs, in some cases be prepared to go back to school to redo your qualification, even you do not learn so much different stuff, the real average salary is around 45-50k a year before tax, if you are lucky enough to get full time job, many people have casual or part-time positions, living costs are more expensive than in most EU countries, the choice of products is limited, public transport is not so good at least in Melbourne and property prices are most expensive in the world comparing to avarage salary. Weather in Melbourne is horrible. If you like travel, stay in Europe!!!! If you have kids, Australia might be not bad country, but is the most expensive to raise a children. ( it might cost up to 1 million AUD to raise one child with university and private schools education) Health care is very efficient here, but I think most EU countries can offer better deals, especially when you need a dental care. So after 8 years living in Melbourne, I think that Australia in next couple of years will be the same or very similar to the UK now.
By the way, is predicted that the unemployment will raise about 1-2% in the next year in Melbourne, due to moving large companies as Holden, Ford, Toyota most likely will follow etc. to overseas. I am really worry about the future, when most industries will move to overseas, because of skills and labour costs. Australia doesn’t produce anything what could replace the gap of missing industry, or we will all work in hospitality, health care or in construction field. It is known that Australia has one of the highest wages, but now government wants to decrease it by increasing fees, prices, and etc. to remain less money in your pocket at the end of the day, they call it price correction to become competative again, so in other words, there will be not so much difference if you are working in London, Sydney or Frankfurt. You are able to find opportunity in this global world everywhere. You do not need to agree with me, but this is not only mine point of view.
Bob, can you tell me what Australia has extra to offer to Europeans, what Europe has not?

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BobinOz January 2, 2014 at 2:01 am

Ah, great, so Henry IS a real person, glad you cleared that up for us. Very entertaining.

Erm, no, can’t be bothered to explain what Australia has extra to offer to Europeans, what Europe has not got. Home and Away is about to come on.

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andrea January 24, 2014 at 2:36 pm

Lol, I love australia and I love england. At least your not in America, where you get shot, earn nothing and your government is the biggest liar of any in the world….

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BobinOz January 25, 2014 at 8:52 pm
AAron July 20, 2014 at 3:35 am

I was sure I wasn’t the only one that knew that about the us. Politicians do not represent me. They just want my money in their pockets.

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Andy January 24, 2014 at 10:27 pm

Hey Bob, glad I stumbled upon your blog. Hearing the argument “Australia is too far away” one too many times I decided to Google those words and this was the first result!

Being a proud born and bred Melbournian I found some of Barberode’s opinions offensive to say the least, or perhaps I would have if some were either slightly accurate or of consequence. Possibly if it was displayed as a pie chart showing the unlikeliness of both? I mean we’re all entitled to an opinion but least Fred meant well? ;)

Anyhow, your original post and all the comments to follow made for a great read on a quiet Friday night before a long weekend of celebrating how much I love this great country of ours.

Happy Australia day on Sunday to you and anyone else who may read this, especially Fred and Barberode!

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BobinOz January 28, 2014 at 3:02 pm

Hi Andy, hope you had a great day on Sunday as well, I certainly had a good time.

Yes, Barberode was quite offensive at times towards the people of Australia and Australia itself. People are entitled to their opinions, but they are not entitled to pigeonhole a whole nation based on nothing other than what goes on inside their own heads.

But I did enjoy it when “Henry” turned up :-)

Glad you enjoyed reading it all, cheers, Bob

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Kymmaree January 26, 2014 at 12:18 pm

I think most people think their country or choice of country is the best. I certainly wouldn’t swap Brisbane for any where else in the world though I am happy to visit your country for a while. If you aren’t happy where you are, move on but don’t blame the country or it’s people. Only you are responsible for your happiness or it’s lack. I think I could be happy almost anywhere, but I would miss Brissy.

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BobinOz January 28, 2014 at 4:20 pm

Absolutely right! Move on if you’re not happy, don’t whinge and complain about it.

Like yourself, I’ve not seen anywhere yet that I would swap for Brisbane, I love it here too.

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Kym Kelly-Taylor January 28, 2014 at 5:05 pm

Oh yes, the appearance of “Henry” was hilarious! I have seen people get caught out on that one before and it was funny then too.
Cheers
Kym

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BobinOz January 28, 2014 at 6:25 pm

But, but……. Henry is a real person, he was on holiday and… :-)

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Kym Kelly-Taylor January 28, 2014 at 7:10 pm

Oh riiiight, I forgot he was a real troll, er. Person.

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EMC2 January 30, 2014 at 1:54 pm

Sorry Bob, even though I am Aussie born and bred, I have a legitimate reason to add to your list…

Most of the beer is crap.

Admittedly it is slowly getting better (helped along with the craft boom), but in general, British beer is of a much higher quality than the yellow-dishwater we make here.

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BobinOz January 30, 2014 at 5:04 pm

Okay, I’ll let you have that one, no arguments from me on that. British beers are best. Check out…

Australia’s Best Beers and Lagers by BobinOz

Cheers mate!

Bob

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Christian Narvaez January 31, 2014 at 12:04 pm

I’ve been living in oz for almost 3 years originaly coming from south america. It is a great country and probably the best in the world for living when you put the pros and cons in the balance. I can count hundreds of positives, but also I have a view of some disadvantages that I would like to share with other potential migrants:
- People tend to be more superficial, specialy comparing with some Europeans in regarding to the interests and topics of conversations.
- Culture/Weather promotes ‘too much’ outdoors -not as smart activities- and too little the indoors -smarter and quiter- activities. i.e reading. A proof of that is that I have heard many inmigrats complaing about how restless are the aussie kids. (I recommend a good article/research of how there is almost none deficit of attention in France)
- Too far away from the western part of the world. The airticket from OZ to Europe and America is in average $2000 round trip.
- Because of that distance/cost of traveling, not many people can not afford traveling overseas and experiment other cultures. In consequence are tons of people are narrow-minded and unaware/uninterested of existence of different cultures other than Australian.
- Costs of some goods are in average 30% more expensive than in Europe and America. i.e cars, electronics, software applications.
- Housing cost is skyrocketting. I blame to the labour cost and the lack of development, that last one due to excesive regulation for building approvals.
- Australia is a low density country, the disadvantage of that are: Larger commuting times in cities, slower internet speed, no as many transport infrastructure (i.e no high-speed trains), expensive transport. Asia countries are far better in these points, due to their density.
- In most of the cities the shops close too early

..and some other small ones that apply to some specific people:
- Some cities are way too hot all year round. Lack of a proper winter.
- There are not high mountains, lakes, snow, volcanos or that sort of natural wonders (I know some people care about that)

Cheers,

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BobinOz January 31, 2014 at 9:15 pm

I love “Lack of proper winter”, that’s a classic :-) It’s also why I came here (partly), to escape winter!

I’ll agree with you on a couple of your points Christian, yes, Australia is too far from the Western world and that does make it difficult to enjoy other cultures.

And my Internet connection is way too slow, I hate that.

I’m not buying the rest of your points though, in particular the pigeonholing of our people as superficial and not reading enough. You simply can’t label an entire nation like that.

But I do thank you for putting across your points and giving us your opinion, so thanks for taking the time to do that.

All countries have pros and cons, sounds like think the positives far outweigh the negatives.

Cheers, Bob

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Kenkeu February 1, 2014 at 8:25 pm

Reading through the comments No country is paradise, not even Hawaii…

Every country has its pro n cons

Like where i come from malaysia

Background check, i ve been to japan, china, hong kong, germany, france,
Holland, indonesia, macau , Belgium, thailand and singapore

1) Ultimately wherever u are the most important point is Are you doing fine now ?
Is your present income more than your expenses ?
My colleague migrated from malaysia to perth aus ..Down grade her job n salary in the process. From being a senior financial executive to just a clerk…from earning
85,000 to just 24,000 in aus. ,,,,,!

2) have you read The world is Flat ? I can travel anywhere in the world for a small fee with Airasia and Scoot.. Not necessary to migrate

3) i have satellite tv astro, streamyx broadband at home here in. Malaysia, all five members of my family have acess to latest ipad, iphone ,latest tv n gadgets

4) we have sunshine all year round, i can speed skate , or surf the seas anytime,.
Hot . ? We had aircon at home n every car in malaysia has aircon too…same with our shopping..every family own not just one car but at least 2-4 local manufactured cars

5) same with shopping, u can shop till u drop in malaysia, opened from 10am to
10 pm. Our Pavilion shopping is voted by Mastercard is among the worlds best
And msia shopping is also voted among the world best.

6) our education system free until secondary, public university is still cheap, u just pay 3k per year, private u is of course like anywhere expensive.

7) public n private medical is still cheap. A visit to a local registered private clinic just cost u Ranges from rm20 to rm35 plus medication.

8)Food n goods here are among the cheapest in the world. Malaysia is rank among the cheapest place in the world to buy a mac burger according to burgernomics
The economist.com

9) Safety, like anywhere else in the world, u need to know where its safe and where its not. Stay in a close guarded community like myself with minimum monthly payment of just rm50 per month. .. Provided with guards round the clock 24 hours, and cars are given RFID cards. Our shopping are guarded, with boom barrier gates,
Cctv, crime rate is near to non existance in major shopping

10) parks are also provided with 2 guards like mine at seremban 2 , city park , safety is never an issue. Like anywhere else be aware of where u are heading

Wherever u come from, whatever the country, think first, travel to more countries first and experience more cultures first…THE WORLD IS FLAT nowdays, even in china, vietnam , malaysia , anywhere…

Dont be just the stereotypes….I am just a normal middle class malaysian, and we can easily afford gucci, pradas n so on. , we can wear the latest watches n nike n addidas..enjoy speed roadbikes..etc etc

There is no more the western countries

and the asian countries

I am asian, ….so we are just one big global family. 

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BobinOz February 3, 2014 at 1:49 pm

Sounds fantastic, but you’ve given us all of the pros, where the cons?

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Ginger February 2, 2014 at 4:44 am

Let me tell you something buddy. First of all that was the biggest load of xxxxxxxx I have ever read. you’re getting all this information from ‘Fred’ a man that you have never actually met, and you write it down as if it was fact when in reality it’s just someone’s undereducated biased opinion. Yes Australia does have its faults. Our country could benefit from a stricter government to make it a safer , but so could a lot of other places, and as for your comment of if you go to one of the public schools you will get raped? We’ll all I can say is put it up your xxxx you xxxxxx. And one last thing Australia is a very peaceful country, filled with plenty opportunities for anyone who wants them, anyone would be luck to able to call Australia their home. So xxxx you mate.

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BobinOz February 3, 2014 at 5:49 pm

Wow, you are one angry dude Ginger. And you obviously didn’t read my comment policy, we simply don’t allow obscenities on this website, that’s why your comment was held in a queue for approval.

Normally I don’t bother, but this time I’ve gone through all the hassle of censoring out your foul language because you need to know that if you are talking to me, then you should try re-reading the post, you’ve obviously got the wrong end of the stick here. When you’ve done that, maybe you should try Googling ‘anger management’.

Love and peace man.

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Zubang the sixth February 14, 2014 at 12:31 pm

My,my.You are just trying to sell your ebook.

Nah,Australia suck.

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BobinOz February 15, 2014 at 9:40 pm

Do you mean the e-book that I give away for free?

Come on Zubang the sixth, keep up!

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Kym Kelly-Taylor February 16, 2014 at 7:02 am

Trolls and idiots. They are infecting the net worldwide, Bob.

Cheers
Kym

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BobinOz February 17, 2014 at 5:09 pm

They never help anyone either, do they? They just whinge…

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boo February 17, 2014 at 7:24 pm

I would love to migrate to oz with my family but are jobs are not on sol list ever xx love ur site all you ppl seem so nice xxx love from wet uk xx

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BobinOz February 17, 2014 at 8:38 pm

Thank you boo, we are quite nice here, aren’t we? :-)

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Jaii February 20, 2014 at 11:10 pm

Hey,
I found the entire article one sided , yes Australia has a few negetives , which plac doesn’t ?
Anyho , I just wanted to get a few things of my chest, I love Australia and call it my home.I migrated here with my family 8 years ago , I have come across a few idiots here, but you can see racial abuse in india where south Indians are bashed at the north or vice versa.
End of the day “If you can be like Australians then you are welcome” attitude prevails here.If you open a can of beer and can take a joke the most bogan guy wouldn’t mind sharing a public bbq with you.
Yes we have natural disasters , but the government supports us well and we volunteer to help each other, mateship in staraya compensates for all this.
Australia is one country were the wages have decent standard and there isn’t much of a difference between the poor and the middle class in social standards , not taking housing locality into consideration.
Tell your mate to stop being a sook
and enjoy Aus for what it is , its beautiful in its own unique way.
Thanks for reading
xoxo

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BobinOz February 21, 2014 at 1:39 pm

Just to clear it up, Fred is not my mate, he contacted me once through my YouTube channel, we don’t watch the game together or go bowling every Wednesday :-)

I’ve been here six years, so I’m a couple behind you, but like yourself I now call this place home and I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.

Thanks for your comment, it’s appreciated, Bob

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Layla (not Henry) February 25, 2014 at 8:49 pm

I just wanted to say the post by Barberode then by Henry, then Barberode again sticking up for his friend, made me laugh so much! :D
Barberode and Henry – bless your cotton socks, I admire your determination.

But Barberode, your “opinions” are just that, opinions. No-one is saying Australia is the best and it’s a fact; they are simply saying in their opinion, they find it the best.
Have you tried living in New Zealand as well?
I have lived in both Aus and NZ. I can guarantee you, NZ has a higher cost of living here. I have also lived in the UK – and you think you have it rough in Australia?…..please.
There are just under 4 and a half million people in NZ and 648,000 of them have moved to and are living in Australia. And 40,000 more Kiwis move to Aus every year.
Australia might not be the best – but it’s obviously pretty dam good.
I’m just saying.

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BobinOz February 26, 2014 at 12:45 am

I’m not sure if either of them are still monitoring this thread, obviously Henry has gone back to Germany :-)

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Layla (not Henry) February 26, 2014 at 10:31 am

:-)
That’s a shame, I would’ve been really interested in what they had to say. (Ha).

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kenozoik March 5, 2014 at 11:04 am

My wife and me moved to Sydney 5 months ago. I am still looking for employment, but luckily my wife found a job. Obviously I haven’t been around long enough to have a proper perception of Sydney, not to say Australia, and since I am unemployed I didn’t have much chance to meet and hang around with Australians. But still, some who are thinking of moving here might find what I have to say useful.

It seems to me that not all professions listed on the SOL list are really in shortage. For example I’m a software engineer and it seems to me that there is actually a shortage of jobs and surplus of qualified workers in the software market. Of course it depends on your specialization.

If you are not wealthy, or if you are coming from a poorer country, it is extremely costly to live here in Sydney. Rental prices are unbelievable. Groceries are pretty much affordable if you do most of your groceries in Aldi stores. The prices of vegetables are insane though. For example tomatoes are 6-8$/kg (in Coles)!

If you are planning on having kids, childcare centres charge between 80-130$ per day, per child. It turns out that it can be more expensive than the rent, which is generally considered the biggest expense.

Public transport in Sydney is decent, as long as you don’t depend on buses because of too much congestion on the roads. Trains are better than in Barcelona, a little bit worse than in Berlin. I find it pretty expensive, but we currently live on one my wife’s income and she’s earning barely enough to cover our basic expenses (she an early childhood educator, and it seems that there is a high demand for that profession, but the pay is not that good).

The weather is really nice here in Sydney, and it was rarely over 30 degrees Celsius this summer, I expected it to be considerably hotter than that. I don’t know about the winter, I haven’t been long enough here. There is much more rain than I expected, but statistically Sydney gets more rain annually than London so I guess it’s normal. And yes, it is really windy here, all the time.

Regarding beaches, I must admit they do look nice on pictures :) On the other hand, I must say that I am a little bit spoiled since I’m originally from Croatia. If you like sand, the ones that I’ve seen are all sandy, and you will be in haven. The waves are huge and it does make swimming a little bit difficult, but it’s perfect for surfing. I am not that afraid of the sharks, but I must say that knowing that they are somewhere out there does not make me feel at ease when I get a little bit further from the shore. In other words, the experience is not comparable to Adriatic beaches, but for some it might be a good thing.

All in all, I’m not sure if this was a good idea, but sadly, I didn’t have the chance to see much of Australia. I haven’t seen a kangaroo yet, but I eat them regularly, and they are tasty! It is essential that you know that you will be able to land a job here. Otherwise it is way too expensive. And one more thing, prior to moving here I checked various sites looking for average salaries, and I got the impression that 85000$ is a realistic salary for my line of work in Sydney. It’s more like 60000-65000$.

And Bob, it seems to me that you are a little bit biased in your opinions. When someone says something negative about Australia, you say that they should not generalize, but you are doing just that when you look at your specific situation in Brisbane and project that to Australia as a whole. You even suggest that people who experienced something negative might have made a mistake of not coming to Brisbane, Queensland.

It is true that every place has its pros and cons, and Australia is no different. It surely is not perfect. It is just a matter of finding out whether the pros outweigh the cons.

By the way, what do you do for living? It seems you had no problems with finding a job here. I am just curious.

Cheers!

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BobinOz March 5, 2014 at 4:43 pm

Yes, it’s true to say that not all professions on the SOL are still in shortage, sometimes that list can be out of date.

Sydney is rather expensive, but as for the general cost of living I have written about that quite a lot and it does have to be looked at in conjunction with the above average wages here in Australia. Childcare fees vary a lot, and there is some assistance for those on lower incomes.

And yes, it is infinitely better in the current climate to try and secure work before you get here, the job situation isn’t as lively as it has been the past as I mentioned in my recent article about jobs in Australia.

As for bias, what is bias? I prefer living in Australia to England, is that bias? I prefer living in Brisbane to Sydney, is that bias? I don’t think it is, I think it’s just my opinion. This website is full of people giving their opinions which helps other people make their decisions.

When someone says something negative about Australia and I say they should not generalise, I think you are specifically referring to what I call ‘pigeonholing’. If someone says all Australians are lazy, for example, that’s a generalisation and a pigeonholing of an entire nation. That’s when I say that people should not generalise. If someone says I live in Sydney and I haven’t seen a kangaroo yet, then yes, I might say move to Brisbane and why shouldn’t I?

It’s my opinion.

I’ve had no problems finding a job here, because I’ve never looked. I work for myself, as does my wife, we both have separate limited companies and we run a third company as a partnership between us.

Hope things cheer up for you down in Sydney and you find work soon, if not, try Brisbane :-)

Cheers, Bob

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kenozoik March 6, 2014 at 10:30 am

Of course it is not bias if you prefere living in Australia to England, but it is bias when you are inclined to look mostly at positive sides of living here.

It is understandable considering your position, and you are not doing it on purpose, but saying that the only reasons you could come up for someone not to come down here are if their favorite hobby is history/archeology or if they are allergic to golden sandy beaches gives an impression that there are no other problems one could encounter here.

Securing a job in Australia from overseas is not an easy task. And even if you do succeed you may end up with an less than average wage.

Regarding childcare and assistance for families with lower income, I never thought that we would fall into that category when we first decided to move here, but it is quite possible that we would, even if I had a job. If that will indeed be the case I would have no other option but to say that we had a much better life back in Croatia. It is too soon for making such conclusions, but it is something that crosses my mind now and then.

Btw, we first thought of moving to Brisbane, but decided for Sydney instead because there were too few jobs for me in Brisbane. Once we came I ended up looking for work all over Australia because it turned out there were not as many in Sydney either. At least not for someone with an engineering profile anyway. Who knows, I may still end up in Brisbane :)

And don’t get me wrong, I think you are doing a great job here with this site, I to have looked at some of the information here prior to moving to Australia, I just wanted to emphasize the problems, especially on this thread where most of the people replying seem to need it to be that great. It might be, but than again it might not.

Cheers!

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BobinOz March 7, 2014 at 12:52 am

I was very amused that you said “It is understandable considering your position…”

What is my position?

I’ll tell you. My position is that I moved here from England after living in that country for 49 and a 1/2 years and I now absolutely love Australia. It’s been a life changer for me.

I was so blown away by the move, that I decided to start writing about it on this website. That’s my position.

The history/archaeology and golden sandy beaches thing, that’s just humour, it’s not serious. It was just my way of introducing this article which, incidentally, highlights somebody else’s idea of everything that is horrible about Australia.

You say I only look on the positive sides of living here, sorry, but I think you are mistaking me for a glossy magazine, the tourist industry or the government. It may surprise you to hear that quite a few people have praised me for actually talking about Australia’s bad things (I had a whole category on that) in which I talk about snakes, spiders, death, drowning, swimming between the flags, (so as not to drown) cyclones, bushfires, horrendous weather, hopeless politicians and so much more.

I didn’t get to be the age I am now without becoming a grumpy old man, and the last thing anyone can accuse me of is only looking at the positives of life in Australia or life anywhere.

Yesterday’s article on my blog, for example, talked about the horrendous price of calling someone out to fix a domestic appliance. Did the government tell you about that? Or a glossy magazine?

No, it was me.

All that said, I really do feel for you kenozoik, this country isn’t a great place to be when you can’t find work, especially when you came here to make a better life for yourself. Getting a job is a problem in most countries these days and it was easier to do here a few years ago than it is now. Once you do find work though, and I’m sure you will do, life will get better. Even if you have to come to Brisbane for that to happen :-)

Cheers, Bob

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Christian Narvaez March 5, 2014 at 10:54 pm

Hi Bob,

I could not resist to reply about that thing in generalise/pigeonholing. I do not understand why generalise is wrong according to you?? imposible to give an opinion about a country or culture without generalise, which is an exercise of finding patterns and take an average view. Absolutely impossible assest every single individual of millions of people of a nation. Otherwise you could never say things like ‘Brazileans like dancing’ or ‘Nordics are good for designing’. Because probably are bad brazileans dancers and bad nordic designers….but are common sense statements.
The same when I say that Australian people are ‘Superficial’ comparing with Europeans. In my experience; most of my friends end up being europeans, because I find very hard establish an interesting, cultural conversation with Australians. I find that their interests are a lot around sports, food, tv shows, house renovation , outdoors, or simply have fun. While europeans have ‘deeper’ interests such as social affairs , politics, etc…….and yes…there are many deep/thoughful aussies and also superficial europeans….but, it is an perception based on observation of patterns..common sense.
I agreed with Kenozoik’s complain that your opinions are sometimes a bit biased. I understand that you are in love with Brisbane…but for many others simply this city does not work, like in my case. I think is wrong recommending Brisbane as a ‘Panacea’. At the end the city soul must match with the person’s personality.
The good of Australia is that there are cities for each ‘type of personality’ and ‘interests’ .
Let’s say that; For people that appreciate easy life, slow pace and good weather, but does not care about career, culture or entretainment, then Brissy is the place.
For people that culture, entretainment and modernity are importantent, but does not care much about weather, then Melbourne is the place for them.
For people that cares about career, cosmopolitan environment, challenges, entretainment, but does not care about house size, longer commuting; then should call Sydney home.

Apologies for the negative comments. I really love Australia which in my opinion is the best country for living for people that does not care much about loosing Culture/History or other cons that I have tried to number.
And also think you do a GREAT job maintaining this portal with very handy info for the potential migrant (actually I used for myself before migrating); but I think the opinion on this sort of forums/web portals must be as much ‘Neutral’ as possible and present an ‘holistic’ view.
Very varied type people with different backgrounds, personalities, interests and goals use it as reference for very important decisions, and all Pros/Cons must be very clearly presented (unbiased) otherwise can mislead people in some life changing decisions.

In spite of this, I would say…Long live Bob in Oz :)
Cheers!

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Layla Turner March 6, 2014 at 6:55 am

If you think Australia has no culture, you are living with blinkers on. Ever heard of Aboriginal culture?
If you want European culture, then Europe IS the place for you, granted they have a longer and richer history than “younger” countries like Australia and NZ.
But Australia isn’t Europe and if you’re living in Australia, you have to take what you can get.
I worked for a native title body in Western Australia, I learnt lots about indigenous people and their culture. You’re obviously not looking hard enough for it.
That’s just my opinion.

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Christian Narvaez March 6, 2014 at 8:22 am

Hi Layla,
I meant ‘rich’/milenian culture of the type of not only Europeans, also Asians, Middle East and some Africans. I apreciate australian aboriginal culture, but let’s be honest that does not have the same richness of the previously named and does not differ much from others aboriginal/islanders cultures of the world.
And my opinions differs from Bob’s one, I think you must not be an Historian for enjoying culture. For me the value of rich culture and history is that it leaves an imprint in people’s personality and interests, it is not only about old churches or things like that, it is about some behavioural legacy, maybe a sociologist could explain us.
What I state is that Australia has so many good things that have been broadly covered in this website. But in order to be more informative need to also present the negatives, trying to aim a broader target of different people from different background and interests, certainly are negatives, is not it? . It is too easy and too politicaly correct always say that everything is wonderful, perfect and shiny, that sometimes it can confused by commercial ads and lose credibility.

Cheers

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Layla Turner March 6, 2014 at 10:01 am

Yes I agree,in order to make an informed decision, one must have all the “facts”.
But no-one said Australia was perfect and shiny.
And this website DOES discuss some of the negatives and challenges, faced by some migrants moving here.
But we don’t dwell on them, we try to put a positive spin on things and offer positive alternatives when problems are being encountered.

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BobinOz March 7, 2014 at 12:16 am

Christian, there is an old joke:

Heaven Is Where:

The French are the chefs
The Italians are the lovers
The British are the police
The Germans are the mechanics
And the Swiss make everything run on time

Hell is Where:

The British are the chefs
The Swiss are the lovers
The French are the mechanics
The Italians make everything run on time
And the Germans are the police

Yes, we all know that the Germans are very good mechanics, they produce Mercedes, Audi and BMW. Superior cars for sure. But it is the companies that make the cars, the people who work in those companies, maybe they aren’t all Germans? Maybe some are, dare I say it, French?

The world has changed over the years, everyone is living in everyone else’s country, Europe has almost no borders, there is no room for pigeonholing anymore.

When you say Australian people are ‘superficial’ compared with Europeans, are you including me? I’m an Australian, but I spent nearly 50 years in Europe and I got about a bit. Or are you now going to say I’m not an Australian, not really? So maybe the other 25% who were not born here and who now have Australian citizenship, you want to exclude those from your ‘superficial’ classification?

So, that just leaves the born and bred Australians. Are they really the ‘superficial’ ones? Well, we can discount politicians, can’t we, because the ability to talk about politics and social affairs, which according to you means that somebody isn’t superficial.

What about Australians (born and bred) that have
travelled extensively around Europe or any of the other continents, are they less superficial? If so, do we discount them from the list?

Do you see what a slippery slope this is?

Taking this a little further Christian, if you stay in Australia, a country which you say you love long enough to become an Australian citizen, does that mean you become ‘superficial’?

Barberode said that as soon as you mention negative things about Australia to an Australian they will not talk to you anymore. That’s pigeonholing. Yourself, with your ‘superficial’ remarks, that’s pigeonholing.

Enough already, I stand by what I say about pigeonholing.

As for Brisbane being a panacea, it may be my preferred place of residence, but it’s no panacea. There are thousands and thousands of comments on this website, I’m involved and reply to almost all of them. If you check thoroughly you will see that I do not recommend Brisbane to everyone. I recommend what I think will suit their situation, whether it be Sydney, Hobart, the Gold Coast, Melbourne or anywhere else in Australia.

When people say “I don’t like the weather in Melbourne” or “it’s too expensive in Sydney” or “Perth is too remote” or “I haven’t seen a kangaroo”, then yes, I do say try Brisbane.

Nothing wrong with that.

One thing I do agree with you though, that’s long live Bob in OZ :-)

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rahman March 7, 2014 at 1:01 am

Hi
I am a new visitor to your site. You have an amazing wealth of information about Australia. Though I have a feeling that you are a bit biased in mentioning the pros of Australia than cons. But still no issue. It is good to be loyal to the country which is giving you the most important thing in life – happiness.

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BobinOz March 8, 2014 at 12:10 am

The ‘bias’ accusation has already been answered a couple of times above. Especially in this bit from a few comments back…

You say I only look on the positive sides of living here, sorry, but I think you are mistaking me for a glossy magazine, the tourist industry or the government. It may surprise you to hear that quite a few people have praised me for actually talking about Australia’s bad things (I had a whole category on that) in which I talk about snakes, spiders, death, drowning, swimming between the flags, (so as not to drown) cyclones, bushfires, horrendous weather, hopeless politicians and so much more.

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Layla Turner March 7, 2014 at 6:47 am

Hmmm….after reading these last few replies, I suspect a Barberode/Henry situation going on here…

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BobinOz March 8, 2014 at 12:11 am

No, these are definitely three different people, for sure. But they all have one thing in common low, they think I’m biased :-)

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Sara March 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm

Have been here now for a year, having emigrated from Somerset ( twinned with Atlantis) No regrets. My 3 children loving it. My husband loving it. My Cat and Dog are loving it. A much easier lifestyle, can be expensive, but is still affordable. The Australians I have met could not have been more welcoming or supportive. My only question really is what took us so long to come over!
No place is perfect, but reading all the comments previously, I would say that Australia has offered us a much better lifestyle than we ever could achieve in the UK. Any yes the beaches are wonderful!

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BobinOz March 20, 2014 at 12:04 am

Hi Sara

It’s probably a bit late to say it, but I’ll say it all the same, welcome to Australia.

Sounds like you are loving it is much as I am here and I can’t disagree with anything you have said. Like yourself, I think the Australian lifestyle is hard to beat.

Obviously not everybody agrees, but that’s why we are having so much fun here on this post :-)

Cheers, Bob

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djmcbell March 29, 2014 at 1:21 am

10 reasons why not to move to the UK:

1 – no sun. Want to develop a vitamin D deficiency or rickets? The UK is the place! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9698670/Britains-bad-summer-will-see-epidemic-of-vitamin-deficiency-expert.html (okay, don’t take that one too seriously).

2 – pests. Yeah, we don’t get snakes and evil giant spiders. We do get loads of wasps though from time to time. Plus the people. Okay again, don’t take too seriously.

3 – people. Enough said. Again, not too seriously.

4 – cost of life. Lots of things have increased. I was going to take a train trip today for business but refused to pay the price – £250 for a return down south! I paid less for a flight to Paris, train tickets there and 3 nights in a pretty good hotel!

5 – location. Okay, nothing I can say on this one, if you’re in the UK chances are everything is reasonably convenient. Except Australia. So that’s a negative – the UK isn’t close enough to Australia. That one’s a bit of a joke.

6 – health care. Unless you ring at 8am precisely, good luck trying to see a GP (at our local doctor in any case). And also, as someone I know had a few years ago, a 5-hour wait WHILST ACTIVELY MISCARRYING, whilst other people (including a drunk escorted by police) got seen first. This actually is not a joke and did happen. I love the fact that we’ve got the NHS and I appreciate the people who work in it, but it does seem some of the management are idiots.

7 – roads. Pot holes everywhere and in some cases councils aren’t bothering to fix them, instead using them as a speed deterrent. That one is serious, or at least when I heard of it. In any case, there are rather a lot of pot holes.

8 – education. Can’t honestly answer on this one, but recently in the news a school in Leeds is now teaching kids “English as a foreign language” because kids who’ve never spoken English before far outweigh the English speakers.

9 – housing. We’ve got an alright house, plenty of storage space, but home ownership is going right down because prices are increasing and pay isn’t.

10 – crime. Recently my area (still an alright area of the city) has had a fair number of stabbings and a shooting, most of these fatal. I’ve been going home through the city late at night and on one occasion had two separate groups of lads try and start on me – thankfully I eluded them in the first case and in the second ducked into a restaurant and called a taxi.

11 – bonus reason. I must admit I’m getting a bit tired of the endless, damp-looking greenery of the British countryside. I know that the grass would simply hide the mud that would be all over my shoes if I dared tread on it. Besides which, it looks cold and grey…

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Kamma March 29, 2014 at 3:34 am

You actually should take that first one seriously. Vitamin D is used to convert calcium into bone, which means you can drink all the milk you want, but your skeleton will still be made of jelly because you’re not getting enough vitamin D. You can get around this by eating fat fish, light therapy, and traveling down south. Northern Europeans have much worse bone quality than they should have due to the grey skies.

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BobinOz March 31, 2014 at 1:38 pm

Thanks for the list djmcbell, good to see you took the time to include a bonus reason as well, just like Fred :-)

Sounds like you want to move to Australia and catch some of our natural vitamin D which, as Kamma has pointed out, is pretty important. We get around 300 vitamin D days each year down here; nice!

Cheers, Bob

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Dilip Devdas Kumari April 13, 2014 at 4:36 am

Australia might be a good place to live….if you have white skin. In my experience, having lived in both Australia and the US, Australia is MUCH more racist.

Walking down the street or taking a bus in Melbourne with brown skin is a horrible experience with nasty glares, hostile muttered comments, and outright challenges from racist bogans. I guess you have never asked non-white Australians about their experiences though, have you? I have never experienced these kinds of racist moments in the US. I find Americans to be much more pleasant and toleran people.

By the way, please ask an Aboriginal about Australia? Better yet, ask them what they think of Australia Day. Did you know that hunting of Aboriginals was legal in Australia up into the 1960′s??

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Layla (not Henry) April 14, 2014 at 12:47 pm

Dilip
Sorry to hear of your racist experience in Australia.
Racism is a nasty condition that is prevalent all over the world, in many countries. I agree, it is unacceptable and there is a lot of racial tension in Australia.
I do believe the government are aware of the problems regarding this and are trying to improve the situation.
I myself am white, I’m also originally from the UK. And when I worked in WA, I worked for an Native Title corporation, helping indigenous groups claim native title over land that rightfully belonged to them.
We’re not all bad.
Sometimes the bad appears to outweigh the good and gets noticed more, but the good is out there.
Racism is one of those horrible things we wish we could get rid of forever, everywhere in the world. Like wasps. :)

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BobinOz April 14, 2014 at 5:55 pm

Racism is indeed a horrible thing but I would like to point out that I have asked non-white Australians about their experiences and they have told me what they think in my post called Is Australia Racist?

I’ve also been to Melbourne very recently, this year actually, and I can assure you that it is a very multicultural city. Maybe one of the most multicultural cities in the world as suggested in my post Multiculturalism in Melbourne: From the Multicultural Festival.

The city is absolutely brimming with non-whites, so, according to you, there would be a huge amount of “nasty glares, hostile muttered comments, and outright challenges from racist bogans”, so much so that it would be impossible not to notice it constantly every day.

But guess what? I never saw anything that came even close to what you are suggesting. Not one single incident in seven days.

And as for “hunting of Aboriginals was legal in Australia up into the 1960′s…” – what exactly does the word ‘hunting’ mean in this instance? Are you really suggesting white people were allowed to roam the streets with guns shooting aboriginals? Or are you using a completely misleading word to describe the “Integration policy” of the 60s?

Dilip, you are making accusations that simply aren’t true.

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Borninperth April 27, 2014 at 12:00 am

Wow that was a long read. I am amazed at how many responses there’s been to this article/ blog post. I came to this site through a search for something on moving cities as am contemplating a move. Having read this it makes me think that a place is largely what you make of it. Cost of housing & groceries & eating out have definitely risen significantly in Perth over the past decade, however, this really means that we all just have to reassess our purchasing decisions- live the next cheapest suburb out or in a slightly smaller place, buy less expensive snacks etc etc Or move cities, of course, if the grass is looking greener. Being a born and bred Perthite with Australian parents just thought I’d provide a little info on living in Australia for any thinking about moving here. It’s generally a positive place, the weather allows a lot of time outside, there’s stunning scenery, the bigger cities are modern & fairly clean but tend (esp Perth) to be very spread out with suburban sprawl over 100kms now in Perth. There is some racism & crime- but how much you’re exposed to will depend where you go & live. It is a long way from many other countries. It can be expensive. There are quite a lot of short-sighted, narrow-minded politicians and people who vote them in. There’s also some terrible social history as well as current issues (eg Aboriginal health & education, refugee detention etc ).

The north (Broome, Darwin, Cairns & around) is really worth visiting to see something different and to experience the talked about ‘laid back culture’. I have a view that Australians tend to view our society as young and not yet ‘proven’ in the eyes of the UK and the US, which I think sometimes fuels some of the more reactionary rather than thought out behaviours. All in all I think Perth is a fantastic place to live- wonderful beaches, beautiful nature-based holiday locations nearby, great weather (albeit a bit cold & wet in winter for me), a big enough city to have a huge range of interesting people, excellent schools & universities, good employment opportunities, good health services, a range of entertainment options, safe, good for bike riding, picnicking, sailing, walking, windsurfing, swimming… I lived in the south of England for 2 years and, although I adored the beautiful old buildings, thatched cottages, country vilages and gorgeous green grass, I could not continue living somewhere that had me seeing no sunlight on Winter work days and where it never really got hot enough to swim for me. I do miss the country pubs and the English beer.

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BobinOz April 27, 2014 at 9:35 pm

Well, BorninPerth, I don’t think there’s anything you’ve said that I disagree with. And yes, I do miss the country pubs and the English beer as well, but not enough to go back there.

I’ve not been to Perth yet, it’s still on my list of things to do, but what you say about it can pretty much apply to many cities here, certainly to mine, Brisbane.

Thanks for taking your time to tell us what you think of Australia, I think you’ve pretty much got it spot on. Good on ya, as we say :-)

Cheers, Bob

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Mali June 16, 2014 at 1:41 pm

Hi, I have lived and studied in OZ for two and a half years and for the record “unless you are drunk, drug addict, lazy, a cheat and to young to know any better, go in Australia only to see what the world should not become”, the most funny part of all is when I asked some of the Aussies have you been to Europe, the answer is: “yes, I have been to UK, Ireland, Scotland and then I went to Paris and back to Australia” (thats nice! you have traveled Europe), just don’t get me wrong beside stupid and rude people (who have so many different cultures in their country and know only english) poor economy, astronomical prices and bad schooling system Australia is a nice place the beaches are beautiful!

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BobinOz June 16, 2014 at 8:26 pm

Congratulations Mali, you have managed to cram in quite a list of insults and incorrect information in a comparatively short space.

You talk of “stupid and rude people” which are personality traits I think you know quite a lot about. Fortunately nobody in their right mind will take your comments seriously, not when you describe Australia’s economy as poor.

Cheers, Bob

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Mali June 16, 2014 at 10:06 pm

Bob,
I’m not going to argue with you it’s your country and it is absolutely natural that you defend it, maybe you are ok, however you would be one of the rare ones…every time that I had to deal with Aussie people I ended *fuc.. Not only traits, I had good experiences with WOGS only…sorry but Aussie nation is mostly racist and they even don’t know why….

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BobinOz June 18, 2014 at 12:19 am

I really don’t know whether to shake my head in disbelief at your comment or laugh like a drain. I usually edit out derogatory terms and profanity even if it does include a *, but I’m going to make an exception for you and leave it in.

I want people to decide for themselves who’s stupid and/or racist.

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Mali June 16, 2014 at 10:15 pm

As for economy the only thing working very good is gas and cole mines unfortunately no one take this seriously and then they end up as cleaners in surfers paradise cleaning all the messes from tourists having good time, as i said as tourist destination Australia is super for any thing else you have to have a rich uncle… believe if you want to if not good luck

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Layla June 17, 2014 at 5:41 pm

These people you talk of, who ……”end up as cleaners in Surfers Paradise cleaning up all the messes from tourists having good time”….. – is this your specific, personal experience? As this isn’t generally what happens to people that move to Australia.
Sounds like your opinion is tainted from, what I suspect is, a bitter, personal experience.
All your comments are incorrect and your opinions are just that, opinions. Your facts have no supporting evidence.

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Mali June 17, 2014 at 7:55 pm

You just proved my point, so you are saying that in general, people that want to move to Australia end up as cleaners? That is a very inviting argument :) Oo yea and this also applies for students…you can protect the honor of Australia as much as you want, the bottom line will always be Australian people are not welcoming to the people that want to stay except if you have enough money to buy your way in…I have also noticed that Aussie are the only one that argue with me…once again people, and i am telling this to all non Australians: Australia is beautiful if you go there for a vacation…to answer your question I have diploma of business, diploma of business management, diploma for dealing with high voltage and Australian qualification for remedial massage therapy all together more than 16 years of schooling and this is the only country that people treated me with no respect and because no Aussie would take me i ended up cleaning…well congrads you have created a perfect idiot breeding environment

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Layla June 17, 2014 at 11:40 pm

Two points.
1) I didn’t ask what your qualifications were. And considering all the qualifications you have, you really should have taken one in English Language, because you didn’t understand what I wrote at all did you? You were the one that mentioned “ending up as cleaners” – not me.
2) I’m not Australian. Yet I’m still disagreeing with you.

I guess its not just the Aussies that don’t like you – its everyone.
Maybe you should stop trolling the internet, with your bitter and twisted, the world is against me attitude. Then maybe people would like you.

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James June 17, 2014 at 4:48 pm

First of all your not australian,
Australians aren’t pests the ‘outsiders’ from other countries are because they don’t live here so they’re the ones swarming in oz. So what we have native spiders and other ‘rodents’ but it’s nature, it’s not like your country doesn’t have some form of pest. also cost of life- just because someone thinks something it doesn’t mean it’s true. Health care- we have a great health care system, you said dentists have crazy cost, yea they have crazy cheap costs. Not all waiting times are expensive….education- no one gets f$&king raped at night because we have a good security and we get a really good education… Look at Hugh jackman he is famous because of the education he’s received. Housing- so what if some of our homes are still old because it’s our history/heritage and we do get new houses, Australia is upgrading to become more technological than other places. Crime- our government is very strict, teens don’t attack old people because why would they do that and plus it’s more stupid adults either drunk or on drugs that do it.

I recommend you visit oz so u can enjoy the sites and sounds, culture and authentic food and enjoy things you’ve never seen before. Some places are cleaner than others but still. If we were recommended not to move here why are there still over 22 million + people still living here. This Fred guy is wrong it’s just lies and what you think so instead of sharing your stupid opinions, keep it to yourself or as people say keep your opinions to yourself. To finish up Australia is the 2nd most liveable country to live in so bugger off mate…

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James June 17, 2014 at 4:58 pm

Bonus-

Australia has one of the best beaches in the world and some stupid little blog isnt going to stop people, from visiting if they choose to read some blog about Australia it should be from an Australian.

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BobinOz June 18, 2014 at 12:30 am

Right, said Fred.

Well, he never bothers to answer.

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Candy June 18, 2014 at 1:42 am

Are you *ucking Kidding Me ?????!!?? I’ve been reading all posts and I can’t believe that some people are so damn stupid!!! Of course for Aussies this is the best country because no other country will give them job and money for doing nothing (like centrelink ) :D :D as far as I know ,and I know a quite bit because I cross more than half of the Planet Earth and this is definitely Country for lazy,dummies or like they say Bogan people ,perfect society on the right way to idiocracy . One of my favorite is the recent documentary for legalisation of medical cannabis when the ministry of health was giving advice to a patient in terminal cancer stage that he should not use cannabis because he can get lung cancer ???? I couldn’t believe is this really happening ??? BTW … Aussies have issue with all nations they think they are better than Europeans ,Asians, American and all other nations and they are just trying so hard to copy Americans especially . You should be greatful and thank God every day for giving you a chance to live on Aboriginal land full with natural riches & resources, without that you are nothing and you’ll always be BOGANS at the end of the tail !!! God Bless all and GOD Bless USA !!!!

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BobinOz June 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm

What a huge coincidence.

Despite both Mali and Candy being world wise global travellers, turns out they are both based in Sydney. Can’t tell for sure they are the same person as one comment was made through a mobile phone and the other through the regular Internet.

But there are more coincidences though; both use smiley faces, both have a penchant for using one of our worst expletives disguised with an asterix, both absolutely hate Australians, both say Australians are lazy, both also claim Australians are stupid and racist and yet both of them appear to be quite stupid and racist themselves.

Surely Mali and Candy are not the same person? Who would be so stupid as to try and backup his own argument with another one of his own arguments? Well, other than Barberode/Henry.

The only real difference between the two is that Candy has used an opayq email address – “Opayq.com is a domain used for Masked Emails…”

Now who’s kidding who?

Give it a rest Mali, the more comments you make the more ridiculous you sound. And if you include any more expletives in any of your comments, asterix or not, you will be banned.

Bob

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Layla June 18, 2014 at 2:44 pm
Mali June 18, 2014 at 4:02 pm

Hah believe or not thats not me I guess I’m not the only one with opinion like that and who can hide their IP…well I’m going to leave you and your wife Layla to it have a nice day

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Layla June 20, 2014 at 3:12 pm

:) :) :D
Bob you have two wives!

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BobinOz June 20, 2014 at 11:20 pm

Apparently, but I don’t know whether to laugh or cry or hand myself into the police :-)

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Fred June 23, 2014 at 7:30 am

Hi Bob,
Long time no hear!
As you know my website was shut down because of complaints from some patriotic heroes. After that I uploaded 3 youtube video on the same subject which made headlines. However, today I have deleted all the videos myself without any one asking me to do so! Why? Because now I realized that I need to close the issue. I received many responses from many different nationalities; some said thank you, others said **** you! I have no time to discuss which country is best. I found that it is just a personal preference (if you could do it). I think a country is not just nature and economics, equally important is the people you know and so on.
My problem in Oz was that I had a cultural shock because of the differences between my expectations and reality. I have not experienced any type of crime in Oz. Let me go back and modify my “previous” top 10 reasons not to migrate to Oz! as I think they apply to most countries;
1- UV radiation exists everywhere! Come on, are you that soft! Or maybe you are afraid to become dark and girls like you more!
2- Anybody mentioned insects and spiders? They are lovely and good company too.
3- Teenagers? So shy and polite.
4- Cost of life is crazy? Ask the bankers and the stupid slave consumers.
5- Location of Oz? Good to be far from the old world and centuries-old conflicts. It may not be important for most of the world population because they can’t afford international travel or they don’t even have passports!
6- Health care is good everywhere because of generous doctors and kind insurance companies.
7- Let’s face it, when you are stingy, building a sophisticated road network is not the highest priority.
8- Lately, the government of Oz has raised the cost of uni education, this will make it more like the states. About on-campus rapes, to avoid it, stop being attractive!
9- There‘s no such thing called Housing crisis, it is just a game played by the merciful banks and the honest builders for your own benefit.
10- Crimes are so rare because of wise government policies of treating criminals softly and actually encouraging them to commit more crimes by making the prison a nice place or even eliminating the jail and just asking for “community service”.
11- Being a dry place is not worse than being a wet place.
12- Where can you find a good air quality these days anyway? People need more jobs and ready to sacrifice trees.
13- Everywhere, you can buy any car you like as long as your finances are healthy enough!
If you ask me whether I want to go back to Oz or elsewhere, I would say that I am content where I am now even though it is not perfect.
Sorry for making it too long.
Cheers,
Fred

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BobinOz June 24, 2014 at 12:11 am

Ah, Fred, there you are, nice to hear from you again. And it’s good to see that you are still one of the world’s best when it comes to writing incredibly stupid lists. Your new list, in a totally different way, is probably as ridiculous as your original list.

Well done!

I don’t think it will get the same vitriolic reaction as your original list, and clearly nobody is going to believe you’ve had a change of heart over Australia, I think your sarcasm is all too clear to see.

But I do want to thank you for providing such a controversial post for me and I think you have managed to anger and amuse people in equal measure.

So keep up the list writing if you can and hope to see you bounce back on YouTube sometime soon.

Cheers, Bob

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Fred June 24, 2014 at 4:10 am

Nice to hear from you Bob. Amusing people is a good thing and angering them is not my purpose. If they get angry, it proves their intolerance. My comments can be ridiculous for some, however, only the super smart appreciate them.
Cheers,
Fred

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Kym June 24, 2014 at 7:57 am

hehehe Only the super smart appreciate them…… Oh look! The emperor has no clothes on! cheers Kym

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BobinOz June 24, 2014 at 6:33 pm

“…however, only the super smart appreciate them.” – Priceless!

You really should have joined this discussion earlier Fred, because you are right, amusing people is a good thing and you sure can be amusing.

Obviously I’m very happy living here in Australia and you say you’re very happy where you are, I think the rest of us would love to know what planet that is?

Cheers, Bob

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Mali June 24, 2014 at 4:18 pm

Oo Bob you are amusing really, just a small advice next time if you don’t want people to talk bad about YOUR country DO NOT start a subject with 10 REASONS WHY NOT TO MOVE TO AUSTRALIA, again this is a blog about why NOT to move to Australia not about: I will defend my country against all that are saying bad thing about Australia.
Hail Fred

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BobinOz June 24, 2014 at 7:45 pm

You’re giving me advice on how to run my website? Now that really is funny, just not as funny as Fred.

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Layla June 25, 2014 at 9:10 am

ACTUALLY, the blog is called “Bob In OZ – What it’s really like to live in Australia”. Only the post is called “10 Reasons not to move to Australia”, not the entire blog.
Now, this is supposed to be a comment thread for people to comment on the subject of the post, not an opportunity for trolling, or insulting people’s blogging abilities.
And Fred….your website was shut down because of complaints, so I think you are the LAST person who should be preaching and you’re a waste of much needed IPv4 space.

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Ron June 24, 2014 at 11:57 pm

Give the place a miss, especially Darwin & the NT – over rated and over priced.

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Mali June 25, 2014 at 1:52 am

Hopeless…

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Mali June 25, 2014 at 2:02 am

And unless your name is Google stop acting like you know everything, some people went through different experiences and know different things…

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BobinOz June 25, 2014 at 4:15 pm

Oh dear. Mali has now resorted to hurling insults like some kind of drunk.

Bad boy Mali!

Mali, please observe my comment policy, I am now moderaterating your comments.

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Mali June 26, 2014 at 3:41 am

:) :) best comedy drama ever :) Well it was funny for a while but now your posts stink :) there is a saying don’t poke into the poopoo that stinks or it will stink even more, so I will stop, no more posts promise :) moderate what ever you want, ciao ragaci

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BobinOz June 26, 2014 at 7:22 pm

Yes, it’s been great fun talking to you Mali, and to Candy as well, who, incidentally, has exactly the same IP address as the one you have used to post this comment.

So much for “believe or not thats not me” because it clearly was. As you say, best comedy drama ever :-) :-)

Mind how you go. Bye bye.

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Al Andrew July 8, 2014 at 7:36 am

Well my family and I are moving to Melbourne in August and I cannot wait !!!
I look forward to meeting new people and contributing to a society and peaceful country !

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john July 11, 2014 at 10:53 pm

Enjoy the high pay of life and the low quality of freedom.
Also the high import costs of cars and gas! ;)

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Sharp324 July 11, 2014 at 10:51 pm

I love living in AUS. no car industry lots of scum left over from the 4 fathers that got dumped there from the British colonies. Yeah best place to live if you are scum was the real title..

I enjoy my 15$ unemployed paycheck but wait i gotta pay double if not triple on anything that comes IN to the country. ha losers enjoy paying 400$ for somthing that is only 200 here in the US.

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Charlie July 12, 2014 at 1:37 pm

I wish I could go to Australia, unfortunately it seems too hard for someone to move there (especially like me) I have researched many things about it and it seems to be a pretty good country, I would move there if I could. I think we just need to remember that EVERY country has its problems.

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Kym July 12, 2014 at 7:20 pm

I think many countries make it too hard to immigrate. Assuming you meet requirements, why does it cost thousands to apply and get permissions? And I agree that many Australian businesses are behind the times as far as web presence, sites, prices and service but many are making the transition slowly. Along with that goes the excellent stuff Australia provides and we enjoy. The weather, freedom from war and the rubbish that women suffer overseas. Nothing is perfect but I would rather live here than anywhere else in the world. I love being Australian and think I am very lucky to live here.

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BobinOz July 13, 2014 at 11:19 pm

Yes, it is very expensive to pay for a visa for Australia, but it’s supply and demand I suspect. Whilst people are still prepared to pay it, the Australian government will charge it. What price do you put on “freedom from war and the rubbish that women suffer overseas?”

Websites are slowly getting there, look at mine :-)

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ross July 17, 2014 at 12:07 pm

Australia isn’t all bad… I mean there are some really nice attraction, yes the people can be especially foul mouthed (particularly children) and violent, and the general cost of living is incredibly high (particularly food and drink), but they do have some amazing places to visit, like the great barrier reef… which was once a great attraction but is now being polluted due to Australians lack of care

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AAron July 20, 2014 at 1:34 am

Morning Bob,
Australia sounds/reads, for the most part, just like the rest of the world.
A little crime, more in areas of higher population less in lesser population.
There are bugs, nasty ones and cute ones, the kids are kids, There are jobs, there is health care and there is govmnt. People have issues just like here in the usa, there just a little different.

I have been looking a real estate all over the us and around the world. If you have the money there is no issues with location.

I’m just guessing, but if I come visit I’m Not going to meet Crocodile Dundee right? That’s ok, I haven’t meet Davie Crockett or Bill Clinton either. SO I have no unrealistic expectations. I have been to Mexico and it scared me to be meet by armed guards on the road between towns.

I will spend some more time looking through your site and blog.
For the most part is sounds like a nice place to visit or live.
Personally, I want to live away from population having lived in the cities most of my life, personal preference.

Real estate per $ is about the same as here in the us., but from what I have seen you can get more land for the buck in Australia with the privacy I like. Prices here in the us are base, IMO, on personal value than real value. IE the housing bubble boom collapse.

Bob and everyone ells, good reading, thanks for the info of you beautiful and diverse county. I just might be coming to visit to see for myself.

AAron

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BobinOz July 21, 2014 at 12:43 am

Thanks AAron,

On the surface, yes, we have a bit of crime, some bugs, kids, healthcare, politicians, jobs, sort of just like other places, but I still do think Australia is a package that other countries just can’t match.

Great beaches, laid-back people, wonderful weather, strict gun control, safety for the most part and lots and lots of space. And you are right, if you pick the right area you can get a lot of land. I remember my wife looking in an realtor’s window when we were in Tasmania and saying “These houses are no cheaper here than in Queensland!”

She was looking at a three-bedroom detached house that was up for around $500,000.

I had a look at it and said to her, “Ah, look, it’s got 50 hectares”.

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